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* A news story near the beginning of ''{{Robocop}}'' describes rebels in Mexico rattling the U.S. borders.

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* A news story near the beginning of ''{{Robocop}}'' ''Film/RoboCop1987'' describes rebels in Mexico rattling the U.S. borders.

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* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': InvertedTrope, where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico.
* ''{{Sliders}}'': One episode featured a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quckly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.


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* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': InvertedTrope, where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico. This is shown on a map in "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E5SoulTrain Soul Train]]".
* ''{{Sliders}}'': One episode featured a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quickly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.
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* ''[[Series/ChaseNBC Chase]]'': In the episode Repo the criminal they are chasing is a believes that America stole the territory and doesn't believe in the authority of the police, making comments about it to most people he meets.
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* The Nation of Aztlan movement has this as its goal. While there is greater awareness of Mexican heritage (and Hispanic heritage in general) starting from around the 1960's, political separation (as in joining Mexico or forming a new country) is not taken seriously by anyone fanatics (both for and against).

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* The Nation of Aztlan movement has this as its goal. While there is has been greater awareness of Mexican heritage (and Hispanic heritage in general) starting from around the 1960's, political separation (as in joining Mexico or forming a new country) is not taken seriously by anyone except fanatics (both for and against).

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* The Nation of Aztlan movement has this as its goal.

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* The Nation of Aztlan movement has this as its goal. While there is greater awareness of Mexican heritage (and Hispanic heritage in general) starting from around the 1960's, political separation (as in joining Mexico or forming a new country) is not taken seriously by anyone fanatics (both for and against).
** Odd, since it's a NonIndicativeName as the region usually referred to (the Mexican Cession) was never settled by Aztecs. "Aztlan" refers to the mythical homeland where they are said to have lived prior to migrating to Tenochtitlán (present-day Mexico City) - most scholars place Aztlan even further south than that.

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* One ''{{Sliders}}'' episode featured a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quckly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.
* Inverted by ''{{Revolution}}'', where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico.

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\n* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': InvertedTrope, where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico.
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One ''{{Sliders}}'' episode featured a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quckly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.
* Inverted by ''{{Revolution}}'', where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico.
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* Inverted by ''{{Revolution}}'', where Texas broke from the US and then proceeded to take over Mexico.
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* This was exactly why the MexicanAmericanWar happened, with Mexico trying to reconquer Texas. Obviously, it didn't work out.
** Actually, the war happened because Mexico and Texas was arguing over where the Texan border was - Texas said Rio Grande, Mexico said Nueces River - and that argument carried over to the United States when Texas was annexed. When JamesKPolk sent troops to uphold the Rio Grande border and was fired on by Mexican troops, it started the war... and subsequent CurbStompBattle with the U.S. smashing its way through ninety percent of Mexico.
** At the time, there was talk of annexing ''all'' of Mexico...which probably would've had a lot of advantages had it been done. But US politics at the time ended up making that an impossibility. Mexico was, of course, south of the Missouri Compromise line, which would've set up for a ''lot'' of new slave states whenever the parts of Mexico would be upgraded from territory to state. That was naturally unpalatable to abolitionists in the North. And in the South (and most of the North for that matter), [[ValuesDissonance the idea of a bunch of non-white Mexicans being made US citizens didn't play well]].
*** Although, the whole "slave state vs. free state" debate could have been settled easily by another faction working to annex Canada as well! Certainly would have caused some strongly worded letters from other countries though, using AmericaTakesOvertheWorld as a complaint.
*** All of this would be further complicated by the fact that slavery had been outlawed in Mexico since the 1820s. The abolition of slavery in Mexico was actually one of the major points of contention between the Mexican government and Anglo settlers in Texas that would lead to the Texas Revolution.
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* Inverted in ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}''; a comic showing a handful of satellite operators who start debating the situation with Israel and Palestine when the sat reaches that general area get shut down by their boss moving the sat to Oklahoma, which another technician calls "Occupied North Texas". Leading to the boss sighing and just telling him to shut up.

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* Inverted in ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}''; a comic showing a handful of satellite operators who start debating the situation with Israel and Palestine when the sat reaches is scheduled for a check-in over that general area get shut down by their boss moving changing the sat coordinates to Oklahoma, which another technician calls "Occupied North Texas". Leading to the boss sighing and just telling him to shut up.
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In 1836 the Republic of Texas separated from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect the settlers' right to own slaves-- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. Texas was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in 1830. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history.

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In 1836 the Republic of Texas separated [[RememberTheAlamo separated]] from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect the settlers' right to own slaves-- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. Texas was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in 1830. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history.

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*** All of this would be further complicated by the fact that slavery had been outlawed in Mexico since the 1820s. The abolition of slavery in Mexico was actually one of the major points of contention between the Mexican government and Anglo settlers in Texas that would lead to the Texas Revolution.
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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, the US army fought all the way to Mexico City, Mexico lost the fight, and the Mexican government signed the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- in exchange for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.

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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, the US army fought all the way to Mexico City, Mexico lost the fight, and the Mexican government signed the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- in exchange for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 $390 million today).in 2012). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.
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* Inverted in ''{{GURPS}} Cyberworld'': the US occupies much of Mexico (though there are still border controls in place to keep Mexican third-class citizens from traveling to the "Upper 48").
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***Although, the whole "slave state vs. free state" debate could have been settled easily by another faction working to annex Canada as well! Certainly would have caused some strongly worded letters from other countries though, using AmericaTakesOvertheWorld as a complaint.

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* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"; though given the near-identical value of the US and Canadian dollars, some advocates say they should just be merged as the "North American dollar"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are substantial sentiments in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Drug War, the HUGE debt of the U.S. that would be passed on mostly debt-free countries, along with the terrible paying habits of U.S. that would generate even more debt and the underdeveloped economy (and lawless areas controlled by the heavily-armed drug cartels) of Mexico are bigger obstacles.

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* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"; though given the near-identical value of the US and Canadian dollars, and the Mexican peso[[note]]While not a literal translation, peso is also the Spanish word for dollar.[[/note]] being worth roughly an eighth of either dollar, some advocates say they should just be merged as the "North American dollar"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are substantial sentiments in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Drug War, the HUGE debt of the U.S. that would be passed on mostly debt-free countries, along with the terrible paying habits of U.S. that would generate even more debt and the underdeveloped economy (and lawless areas controlled by the heavily-armed drug cartels) of Mexico are bigger obstacles.




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** At the time, there was talk of annexing ''all'' of Mexico...which probably would've had a lot of advantages had it been done. But US politics at the time ended up making that an impossibility. Mexico was, of course, south of the Missouri Compromise line, which would've set up for a ''lot'' of new slave states whenever the parts of Mexico would be upgraded from territory to state. That was naturally unpalatable to abolitionists in the North. And in the South (and most of the North for that matter), [[ValuesDissonance the idea of a bunch of non-white Mexicans being made US citizens didn't play well]].
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* Inverted in ''ItCantHappenHere''. The Windrip regime invades Mexico as a means of spreading its empire and encouraging patriotism among the masses. Played with in that the regime falsely claims Mexico attacked America as justification for the war.
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Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream. There is a [[TruthInTelevision truth in television]] aspect here, as activist groups like La Raza and MEChA have stated in their charters the goal of bringing back to Mexico much of its former land.

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Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream. There is a [[TruthInTelevision truth in television]] aspect here, as activist groups like La Raza and MEChA [=MEChA=] have stated in their charters the goal of bringing back to Mexico much of its former land.
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Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream. There is a [[TruthInTelevision]] aspect here, as activist groups like La Raza and MEChA have stated in their charters the goal of bringing back to Mexico much of its former land.

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Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream. There is a [[TruthInTelevision]] [[TruthInTelevision truth in television]] aspect here, as activist groups like La Raza and MEChA have stated in their charters the goal of bringing back to Mexico much of its former land.
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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, the US army went all the way to Mexico City, Mexico lost, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.

Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream.

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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, the US army went fought all the way to Mexico City, Mexico lost, lost the fight, and the Mexican government ended up signing signed the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- in exchange for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.

Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being next to the U.S. [[CrapsackOnlyByComparison a crapsack world by comparison]], this desire is all but a pipe dream.
dream. There is a [[TruthInTelevision]] aspect here, as activist groups like La Raza and MEChA have stated in their charters the goal of bringing back to Mexico much of its former land.
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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico lost, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.

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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, the US army went all the way to Mexico City, Mexico lost, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income) -- for the sum of 15 million dollars (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.
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* A common conflict in the AlternateHistory grand strategy game ''VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun''. Incidentally, its main scenario starts with an independent Texas at war with Mexico due to AuthorAppeal.

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* A common conflict in the AlternateHistory grand strategy game ''VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun''.''VideoGame/VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun''. Incidentally, its main scenario starts with an independent Texas at war with Mexico due to AuthorAppeal.
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** Its spiritual sequel ''{{2300AD}}'' had Mexico still holding Los Angeles.
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* Referenced in 80s Cannon-produced action film ''Avenging Force''. The lead white supremacist's rant about liberals and communists refers to 20 million Mexicans in the United States who would just "love to rebel and join the Socialist Republic of Mexico."

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* Referenced in 80s Cannon-produced action film ''Avenging Force''.''Film/AvengingForce''. The lead white supremacist's rant about liberals and communists refers to 20 million Mexicans in the United States who would just "love to rebel and join the Socialist Republic of Mexico."
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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico lost, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income)- for the sum of 15 million dollars ( accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.

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In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico lost, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory (though only a very small part of its population or gross national income)- income) -- for the sum of 15 million dollars ( accounting (accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today). This was later followed by the sale of La Mesilla / purchase of Gadsden for the purpose of building a transcontinental railroad.
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* In ''Film/RedDawn'' several Central/South American countries invaded the US through Mexico after a limited nuclear strike.

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* In ''Film/RedDawn'' ''Film/RedDawn1984'' several Central/South American countries invaded the US through Mexico after a limited nuclear strike.
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Some Mexicans came to America, and for some, America came to them.

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