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* ''Literature/FireOnTheMountain'' has the United States break up after a successful slave revolt in 1859. Texas, Arizona, and California are all reclaimed by Mexico.

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* ''Literature/FireOnTheMountain'' has the United States break up after a successful slave revolt in 1859. Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Arizona (both then the New Mexico Territory), and California are all reclaimed by Mexico.

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Some Mexicans came to America, and for some, America came to them.

In 1836 the [[UsefulNotes/{{Texas}} Republic of Texas]] [[RememberTheAlamo separated]] from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect [[ValuesDissonance the settlers' right to own slaves]] -- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. The new Texas immigrants from the United States became known as Texicans while the original Hispanic locals were called Tejanos. Texas (or Tejas as it was called at the time) was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in the law of April 6th, 1830 which also prevented further emigration to Texas from the United States and increased import taxes. This law didn't stop further immigration as Americans continued to settle Texas illegally. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history. After Santa Anna overthrew president Anastasio Bustamante in 1832 the Mexican government started giving concessions to Texas that included a repeal on the emigration ban, more representation to Texas, and the right to trial by jury. However, Santa Anna had other plans as he overturned the 1824 constitution in 1835 and ordered all state legislatures and militias to be disbanded. The Tejano governor of Texas refused and when Mexican authorities attempted to seize a cannon used for defense against Comanche raiders it led to the Battle of Gonzales which sparked the Texas Revolution.

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Some Mexicans UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}ans came to America, the UsefulNotes/UnitedStates, and for some, America the States came to them.

In 1836 the [[UsefulNotes/{{Texas}} Republic of Texas]] [[RememberTheAlamo separated]] from its previous [[Usefulnotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] Mexican rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect [[ValuesDissonance the settlers' right to own slaves]] -- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. The new Texas immigrants from the United States became known as Texicans while the original Hispanic locals were called Tejanos. Texas (or Tejas as it was called at the time) was originally granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in the law of April 6th, 1830 which also prevented further emigration to Texas from the United States and increased import taxes. This law didn't stop further immigration as Americans continued to settle Texas illegally. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. The slavery aspect is something Texans unsurprisingly tend to gloss over when discussing their state's history. After Santa Anna overthrew president Anastasio Bustamante in 1832 the Mexican government started giving concessions to Texas that included a repeal on the emigration ban, more representation to Texas, and the right to trial by jury. However, Santa Anna had other plans as he overturned the 1824 constitution in 1835 and ordered all state legislatures and militias to be disbanded. The Tejano governor of Texas refused and when Mexican authorities attempted to seize a cannon used for defense against Comanche raiders it led to the Battle of Gonzales which sparked the Texas Revolution.



* The above picture comes from an ad for Absolut vodka (a Swedish product) that only ran in Mexico. To say that there was a bit of backlash when it was leaked into the USA is putting it mildly. A lot of the mockery directed at Absolut had them promoting similar [[PatrioticFervor revanchist nationalist fantasies]] from many countries around the world.

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* The above picture comes from an ad for Absolut vodka (a Swedish UsefulNotes/{{Swed|en}}ish product) that only ran in Mexico. To say that there was a bit of backlash when it was leaked into the USA is putting it mildly. A lot of the mockery directed at Absolut had them promoting similar [[PatrioticFervor revanchist nationalist fantasies]] from many countries around the world.



* Interestingly, averted in ''Fanfic/IncompatibleSystem''. While a few of the southern states are now allied with Latin America after a near-WorldWarIII had caused a severe case of DividedStatesOfAmerica, Texas is proudly, crazily and loudly independent.

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* Interestingly, Interestingly averted in ''Fanfic/IncompatibleSystem''. While a few of the southern states are now allied with Latin America after a near-WorldWarIII had caused a severe case of DividedStatesOfAmerica, Texas is proudly, crazily and loudly independent.



* Referenced in ''Film/AvengingForce''. The lead white supremacist's rant about liberals and communists refers to 20 million Mexicans in the United States who would just "love to rebel and join the Socialist Republic of Mexico".



* In ''Film/RedDawn1984'' Nicaragua and Communist Cuba invaded the US through Mexico after a limited nuclear strike.

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* In ''Film/RedDawn1984'' ''Film/RedDawn1984'', Nicaragua and Communist Cuba invaded the US through Mexico after a limited nuclear strike.



* In the comedy ''Film/VivaMax'', the eponymous General Maximillian is driven to near insanity when the Mexican woman he has a crush on spurns him and insults his capacity as a military officer. He assumes that, naturally, the best way to impress her is to recapture the Alamo.
* In the ''Film/WildWildWest'' movie, Mexico was one of the backers of Loveless's plan in exchange for the return of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. That's right, along existing state borders, not the pre-1848 one.
* Referenced in 80s Cannon-produced action film ''Film/AvengingForce''. The lead white supremacist's rant about liberals and communists refers to 20 million Mexicans in the United States who would just "love to rebel and join the Socialist Republic of Mexico."

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* In the comedy ''Film/VivaMax'', the eponymous General Maximillian is driven to near insanity when the Mexican woman he has a crush on spurns him and insults his capacity as a military officer. He assumes that, naturally, the best way to impress her is to recapture the Alamo.
* In the ''Film/WildWildWest'' movie, ''Film/WildWildWest'', Mexico was one of the backers of Loveless's plan in exchange for the return of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. That's right, along existing state borders, not the pre-1848 one.
* Referenced in 80s Cannon-produced action film ''Film/AvengingForce''. The lead white supremacist's rant about liberals and communists refers to 20 million Mexicans in the United States who would just "love to rebel and join the Socialist Republic of Mexico."
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman George Friedman,]] in his novel ''The Next 100 Years'', details his very broad political predictions for the 21st century and states that Mexico will at least attempt this by 2100, due to Mexico's likely stabilization (he points out China has been in chaos in the recent past and overcome that chaos), its population growth and the US population decline.
* In the book ''One Second After'' (taking place in the aftermath of an EMP attack on the US) [[spoiler:taking advantage of the confusion, Mexico takes over a good portion of the southern US, including Texas.]]

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* ''The Next 100 Years'' by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman George Friedman,]] in his novel ''The Next 100 Years'', Friedman]] details his Friedman's very broad political predictions for the 21st century and states that Mexico will at least attempt this by 2100, due to Mexico's likely stabilization (he points out that China has been in chaos in the recent past and overcome that chaos), its population growth and the US population decline.
* In the book ''One Second After'' (taking place in by Creator/WilliamRForstchen, Mexico advantage of the aftermath of confusion caused by an EMP attack on the US) [[spoiler:taking advantage of the confusion, Mexico takes over US and conquers a good portion of the southern US, including Texas.]]



** As America declines and the corrupt Federal Government comes to depend more and more on minorities to support its ruthless rule, President Warner eventually agrees with Mexican nationalist leaders to establish a condominium over Texas, Arizona and Newmex. This backfires, however, as the locals rebel, and end up destroying most of the Mexican army in the ensuing war. The resultant power vacuum then allows the [[ReligionOfEvil Aztecs]] to seize power in Mexico itself.

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** As America declines and the corrupt Federal Government comes to depend more and more on minorities to support its ruthless rule, President Warner eventually agrees with Mexican nationalist leaders to establish a condominium over Texas, Arizona and Newmex. This backfires, however, as the locals rebel, and end up destroying most of the Mexican army in the ensuing war. The resultant power vacuum then allows the [[ReligionOfEvil the Aztecs]] to seize power in Mexico itself.



* ''Literature/TheWarAgainstTheChtorr''. Southern Mexico provides staging areas for an "Army of Economic Liberation" to invade an ostensibly demilitarised United States. The invaders get their ass handed to them due to [[RobotWar secret technology]] the US has been hiding. When Mexico subsequently collapses, many other nations think it's not a coincidence.

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* ''Literature/TheWarAgainstTheChtorr''. ''Literature/TheWarAgainstTheChtorr'': Southern Mexico provides staging areas for an "Army of Economic Liberation" to invade an ostensibly demilitarised United States. The invaders get their ass handed to them due to [[RobotWar secret technology]] the US has been hiding. When Mexico subsequently collapses, many other nations think it's not a coincidence.



* ''Series/{{Chase|NBC}}'': In the episode "Repo", the criminal they are chasing believes that America stole the territory and doesn't believe in the authority of the police, making comments about it to most people he meets.

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* ''Series/{{Chase|NBC}}'': ''Series/ChaseNBC'': In the episode "Repo", the criminal they are chasing being chased believes that America stole the territory and doesn't believe in the authority of the police, making comments about it to most people he meets.



* ''Series/{{Sliders}}'': One episode featured a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quickly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.

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* ''Series/{{Sliders}}'': One episode featured "[[Recap/SlidersS04E21RoadsTaken Roads Taken]]" features a world where Mexico decides to take back Texas and California (possibly others as well). They get quickly thrown out of Texas, however, since "every Texas citizen owns a gun", but California cities turn into war zones.



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* Mexican ''Norteño'' group ''Los Tigres Del Norte'' wrote a famous song called ''Somos Mas Americanos'' (Translation: We're More American) that talks about how Mexico owned most land North of the border, were driven out, and made a border to keep Mexicans out. It tackles the subjects of Manifest Destiny and Border Control while begging the question, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters "Who Is The Real Invader?"]]

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* Mexican ''Norteño'' group ''Los Los Tigres Del Norte'' Norte wrote a famous song called ''Somos "Somos Mas Americanos'' (Translation: We're Americanos" (translation: "We're More American) American") that talks about how Mexico owned most land North of the border, were driven out, and made a border to keep Mexicans out. It tackles the subjects of Manifest Destiny manifest destiny and Border Control border control while begging the question, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters "Who Is The Real Invader?"]]is the real invader?"]]



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', Aztlan (AKA The Country Formerly Known As Mexico) invaded and conquered parts of California and Texas (both of which had split off from the U.S.).
* ''TabletopGame/{{Twilight2000}}''. After the Soviet nuclear attack on the U.S. in 1998, Mexico invaded the southern U.S.
** Its spiritual sequel ''TabletopGame/TwentyThreeHundredAD'' had Mexico still holding Los Angeles, Arizona, and New Mexico, but not Texas.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', Aztlan (AKA The Country Formerly Known As Mexico) ([[IstanbulNotConstantinople the country formerly known as Mexico]]) invaded and conquered parts of California and Texas (both of which had split off from the U.S.).
* ''TabletopGame/{{Twilight2000}}''. After In ''TabletopGame/Twilight2000'', after the Soviet nuclear attack on the U.S. in 1998, Mexico invaded the southern U.S.
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S. Its spiritual sequel ''TabletopGame/TwentyThreeHundredAD'' had has Mexico still holding Los Angeles, Arizona, and New Mexico, but not Texas.



* Mexico attempts to take Texas (claiming it belonged to them, even if they were centuries late) at one point in the ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' {{Backstory}}, after the incident with the original NSF reveals how weak the US had become. It's [[AllThereInTheManual not mentioned in the main plot, but it is given through in-game media]]. ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' mentions it in the fan fiction shop. A Mexican-occupied Texas level was planned, but cut from development.

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* ''VideoGame/DeusEx'': Mexico attempts attempted to take Texas (claiming it belonged to them, even if they were centuries late) at one point in the ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' {{Backstory}}, after the incident with the original NSF reveals revealed how weak the US had become. It's [[AllThereInTheManual not mentioned in the main plot, but it is given through in-game media]]. ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' mentions it in the fan fiction shop. A Mexican-occupied Texas level was planned, but cut from development.
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* ''Literature/FireOnTheMountain'' has the United States break up after a successful slave revolt. Texas, Arizona, and California are all reclaimed by Mexico.

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* ''Literature/FireOnTheMountain'' has the United States break up after a successful slave revolt.revolt in 1859. Texas, Arizona, and California are all reclaimed by Mexico.
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* In ''VideoGame/{{HAWX}}'', the eponymous squadron flies to Ciudad Juarez due to Mexican rebels going into the United States to escape retribution from government forces.
* ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIronIV'' added a new decision tree for Mexico with the ''Man the Guns'' expansion. Should Mexico go fascist or communist, it can launch wars of conquest throughout Latin America and the Caribbean before turning its eyes north to the United States, as you rescind the Mexican Cession and redeem Aztlan.



* In ''VideoGame/TomClancysHAWX'', the eponymous squadron flies to Ciudad Juarez due to Mexican rebels going into the United States to escape retribution from government forces.




* ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIronIV'' itself added a new decision tree for Mexico with the ''Man the Guns'' expansion. Should Mexico go fascist or communist, it can launch wars of conquest throughout Latin America and the Caribbean before turning its eyes north to the United States, as you rescind the Mexican Cession and redeem Aztlan.



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* Mexico attempts to take Texas (claiming it belonged to them, even if they were centuries late) at one point in the ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' BackStory, after the incident with the original NSF reveals how weak the US had become. It's [[AllThereInTheManual not mentioned in the main plot, but it is given through in-game media]]. ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' mentions it in the fan fiction shop.
** A Mexican-occupied Texas level was planned, but cut from development.

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* Soviet troops in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2'' invade via Mexico (or at least we see an Apocalypse Tank crushing a "Welcome to Texas" sign). The [[AllThereInTheManual backstory]] states that Mexico is part of the World Socialist League, and the USSR faked a civil war there to justify a troop intervention -- which provided them a base to invade the USA.
* Mexico attempts to take Texas (claiming it belonged to them, even if they were centuries late) at one point in the ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' BackStory, {{Backstory}}, after the incident with the original NSF reveals how weak the US had become. It's [[AllThereInTheManual not mentioned in the main plot, but it is given through in-game media]]. ''VideoGame/TheNamelessMod'' mentions it in the fan fiction shop.
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shop. A Mexican-occupied Texas level was planned, but cut from development.



* Soviet troops in ''VideoGame/RedAlert2'' invade via Mexico (or at least we see a Apocalypse Tank crushing a "Welcome to Texas" sign).
** The [[AllThereInTheManual backstory]] states that Mexico is part of the World Socialist League, and the USSR faked a civil war there to justify a troop intervention -- which provided them a base to invade the USA.
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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become moot with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania. [[note]]The elephant in this particular room is the Kaliningrad Enclave (formerly Konigsberg), a part of the former East Prussia that was directly annexed to the Soviet Union with its former German population being expelled. Kaliningrad is today a detached part of Russia, and while Germans are not prohibited from visiting, the Russian administration makes it clear they are not welcome to settle permanently and certainly not to buy land or property.[[/note]]

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** During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, due to the fact Germany's eastern border wasn't definitively fixed, UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic was making the following sentence resume its policy toward the East : East: Germany called, they want the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_eastern_territories_of_Germany Ostgebiete]]'' back. This ended after the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, by which Germany recognized the borders and abandoned its claim to Eastern territories. This has also become moot with the European Union and the Schengen Visa allowing Germans to travel back to their ancestral homes in Silesia and Pomerania. [[note]]The elephant in this particular room is the Kaliningrad Enclave (formerly Konigsberg), a part of the former East Prussia that was directly annexed to the Soviet Union with its former German population being expelled. Kaliningrad is today a detached part of Russia, and while Germans are not prohibited from visiting, the Russian administration makes it clear they are not welcome to settle permanently and certainly not to buy land or property.[[/note]]
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* ''Series/{{Chase|NBC}}'': In the episode "Repo", the criminal they are chasing is a believes that America stole the territory and doesn't believe in the authority of the police, making comments about it to most people he meets.

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* ''Series/{{Chase|NBC}}'': In the episode "Repo", the criminal they are chasing is a believes that America stole the territory and doesn't believe in the authority of the police, making comments about it to most people he meets.
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* The above picture comes from an ad for Absolut vodka (a Swedish product) that only ran in Mexico. To say that there was a bit of backlash when it was leaked into the USA is putting it mildly.

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* The above picture comes from an ad for Absolut vodka (a Swedish product) that only ran in Mexico. To say that there was a bit of backlash when it was leaked into the USA is putting it mildly. A lot of the mockery directed at Absolut had them promoting similar [[PatrioticFervor revanchist nationalist fantasies]] from many countries around the world.
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