History Main / MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack

* In the comedy ''VivaMax'', the titular General Maximillian is driven to near insanity when the Mexican woman he has a crush on spurns him and insults his capacity as a military officer. He assumes that, naturally, the best way to impress her is to recapture the Alamo.

** Also, a lot of Americans, especially now, are irritated at Mexicans coming into the US illegally and then committing other crimes, a common situation in places in Arizona and Texas especially. This is usually in spite of a view that US immigration policy does need to be reformed to be a little bit easier for people to come in. Doesn't help that the Mexican president seems to have slightly hostile (and hypocritical) view toward the US on immigration policy. This relationship probably won't improve very soon.

* Mexico attempts to take Texas (claiming it belonged to them, even if they were centuries late) at one point in the ''DeusEx'' [[BackStory back story]], after the incident with the original NSF reveals how weak the US had become. It's [[AllThereInTheManual not mentioned in the main plot, but it is given through in-game media]]. TheNamelessMod mentions it in the fan fiction shop.

* ImperialGermany during WorldWarOne delivered the Zimmermann Telegram, which offered to give Arizona, New Mexico and Texas to Mexico if it sided with Germany. The British decrypted the message and sent it to the US before the Mexicans could even get around to responding. Because Mexico was in the middle of a [[MexicanRevolution revolution]], it probably wouldn't have been interested anyway.

* The above picture comes from an ad for Swedish Vodka that only ran in Mexico. That there was [[InternetBackdraft a backlash]] when it was leaked into the USA is [[{{Understatement}} putting it mildly.]] This [[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html news article]] will explain better anything about the ad and the controversy.

* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are [[{{Understatement}} substantial sentiments]] in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Drug War, the HUGE debt of the U.S. that would be passed on mostly debt-free countries, along with the terrible spending habits of U.S. that would generate even more debt and the underdeveloped economy of Mexico are bigger obstacles.

** Also, a lot of Americans, especially now, are a [[{{Understatement}} little irritated]] at Mexicans coming into the US illegally and then committing other crimes, a common situation in places in Arizona and Texas especially. This is usually in spite of a view that US immigration policy does need to be reformed to be a little bit easier for people to come in. Doesn't help that the Mexican president seems to have slightly hostile (and hypocritical) view toward the US on immigration policy. This relationship probably won't improve very soon.

In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico [[{{Understatement}} lost]], and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory- for the sum of 15 million dollars ( accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today).

** Also, a lot of Americans, especially now, are a [[Understatement little irritated]] at Mexicans coming into the US illegally and then committing other crimes, a common situation in places in Arizona and Texas especially. This is usually in spite of a view that US immigration policy does need to be reformed to be a little bit easier for people to come in. Doesn't help that the Mexican president seems to have slightly hostile (and hypocritical) view toward the US on immigration policy. This relationship probably won't improve very soon.

* [[ANaziByAnyOtherName The Nation of Aztlan movement]] has this as its goal. [[{{Understatement}} They're crazy]].

* The Nation of Aztlan movement has this as its goal. [[{{Understatement}} They're crazy]].

[[caption-width:265:Wow, and I thought [[WorldWarTwo the Germans]] were [[MexicanAmericanWar sore losers]].]]

[[caption-width:265:Just wait for the hangover to hit, it'll be an 8.5 on the Richter scale.]]

* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are [[{{Understatement}} substantial sentiments]] in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Mexican Drug War, illegal immigration, and the underdeveloped economy in general is an even bigger obstacle.

Needless to say, the thought of being formerly such a huge country that lost so much land supposedly means that every single Mexican has at one point dreamed of getting back the "Lost Territories". And of course, Mexico being a fledgling developing country hit by four economic disasters in the last 25 years next to the most powerful nation in the world, this desire is all but a pipe dream.

Thus, whenever in speculative fiction you see the United States somehow greatly weakened, or in the past before the USA became a superpower, you can pretty much be assured the back story will involve Mexico conquering at least Texas and California. This is particularly ironic, because both California and Texas are each currently militarily and economically more powerful than the entirety of Mexico, mostly due to being commercial centers in the US and the fact that Mexico has been wracked by the ongoing drug war.

* The [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Nation of Aztlan]] movement has this as its goal.

* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are substantial sentiments in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Mexican Drug War, illegal immigration, and the underdeveloped economy in general is an even bigger obstacle.

** Which is amusing since France and Spain also had claim to Texas once upon a time. Hell, By this token, Spain has a claim to ''Mexico''.
*** France was getting the Mississippi River, and Spain was getting Florida.

* In the comedy VivaMax, the titular General Maximillian is driven to near insanity when the Mexican woman he has a crush on spurns him and insults his capacity as a military officer. He assumes that, naturally, the best way to impress her is to recapture the Alamo.

* The [[strike: Reconquista]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Nation of Aztlan]] movement has this as its goal.
* TruthInTelevision, or at least that's what the [[ImperialGermany German government]] thought during WorldWarOne. The Zimmermann Telegram offered to give Mexico Arizona, New Mexico and Texas if Mexico sided with Germany. Being too busy with the Mexican Revolution, Mexico didn't take the bait, but the U.S. found out about it, and [[ItWasHisSled well...]]
** Of course, since the British decrypted the message and sent it to the US before the Mexicans could even get around to responding, we will probably never know what they would have done had they gotten the message uncompromised.
*** Probably we would've said "no", since we were in the middle of a fucking [[MexicanRevolution Revolution]].
*** The OtherWiki mentions an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Veracruz interesting part]] of the Mexican revolution.
* Just wait a few decades and demographics could make the population predominantly Latino anyways. Of course, Mexico still can't take the land back from the United States officially or anything. There's a ton of valuable resources still left in the territory, so demographics or not, the federal government wouldn't want to just hand it over (or let it be conquered without a fight). Plus, most immigrants living there wanted to ''leave'' Mexico in the first place- they'd hardly want to move back to it.
** A recent letter to the editor in a southern California newspaper: "Why is everyone going on and on about a Latino majority here? They were already a majority 100 years ago."
** Also keep in mind that we have this weird one drop policy when it comes to being Hispanic. If your parents were in a mixed marriage, you're considered Latino by the government. If you had a Hispanic ancestor, you're considered Latino. Also, Hispanic refers to an ethnic group. It has no bearing on national identity or culture, especially for children who have grown up in the US and consider themselves Americans first.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman George Friedman,]] in his novel ''The Next 100 Years'', in which he details his very broad political predictions for the twenty first century, states that Mexico will at least attempt this by 2100, due to Mexico's likely stabilization (he points out China has been in chaos in the recent past and overcome that chaos), its population growth and the US population decline. While such an idea may seemed far fetched now, he points out that recent history would seem preposterous to somebody a century ago.

In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico [[Understatement lost]], and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory- for the sum of 15 million dollars ( accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today).

In 1846, the United States Congress declared war on Mexico following a border skirmish between a Mexican cavalry detachment and a U.S. patrol. Long story short, Mexico got its ass handed to it on a diamond-encrusted silver platter, and the Mexican government ended up signing the Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty, in which Mexico transferred to the USA the territories that are nowadays covered by California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Oklahoma -- that is, around 60% of its territory- for the sum of 15 million dollars ( accounting for inflation, that's about $313 million today).

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman George Friedman,]] in his novel ''The Next 100 Years'', in which he details his very broad political predictions for the twenty first century, states that Mexico will at least attempt this by 2100, due to Mexico's likely stabilisation (he points out China has been in chaos in the recent past and overcome that chaos), its population growth and the US population decline.
** The U.S. population is not in decline, nor is it projected to be anytime soon. Of course, the same George Friedman also wrote ''[[JapanTakesOverTheWorld The Coming War With Japan]]'' [[HistoryMarchesOn in 1991]].
** He does mentions in the beginning of the book how what looks plausible and implausible can change drastically over a century, as well as that the chances of his predictions coming true are slim.

In 1835 the Republic of Texas separated from its previous Mexican rule. After spending the better part of their one sovereign decade attempting to join the United States, Texas was annexed by the USA in 1845. The United States offered Texas security, stable rule, and economic survivability, as many had families in the United States and feared that Mexico had plans to strike once more at Texas, hence this trope. The United States also would protect the settlers' right to own slaves-- these settlers, first invited to Texas by the Mexican government after agreeing to follow Mexican law, balked at Mexico's ban on slavery in 1829, which these slave-owning settlers very much disagreed with. [[hottip:*:Texas was actually granted a one-year exemption from the 1829 ban, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in 1830. To [[ExactWords circumvent the law]], many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life.]]

*** The OtherWiki mentions an [[http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1TSNA_ENUS429&=&q=imperial+united+states&aq=f&aqi=g-v3g-b2&aql=&oq=#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&pq=imperial%20united%20states&xhr=t&q=United%20states%20occupation%20of%20haiti%201915&cp=34&pf=p&sclient=psy&safe=off&rlz=1G1TSNA_ENUS429&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=United+states+occupation+of+haiti+&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=33231368492673a0 interesting part]] of the Mexican revolution.

** The U.S. population is not in decline, nor is it projected to be anytime soon. Of course, the same George Friedman also wrote "The Coming War with Japan" [[HistoryMarchesOn in 1991]].
* This may become a moot point if the United States, Mexico, [[AndZoidberg and Canada]] continue their economic integration and extend it into the political sphere. Some people even envision a common economy and currency (the "amero"), and open borders based on the EU model. However, there are substantial sentiments in all three countries ''against'' further integration, and the Mexican Drug War, illegal immigration, and the underdeveloped economy in general is an even bigger obstacle.