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* ''{{House}}'' is often criticised for its [[StrictlyFormula formulaic nature]], which includes ''never'' changing its protagonist's [[DrJerk unlikeable personality.]]

* Franco-British avant-garde post-rock band Stereolab began their career in the early 1990s, performing dangerously modern Krautrock-influenced lounge pop songs with lilting, Marxist-themed lyrics. And that is how they ended their career, nineteen years later, by which time the critics had given up on them.

* Part of the reason X-Box's [[ConkersBadFurDay Conker: Live & Reloaded]] failed to reach the same hype and praise won as its former N64 self as Conker's Bad Fur Day was due to this. The other part was Microsoft's, replacement of mini-games featured in Bad Fur Day with copies or expansions of the war-based games, even heavier censorship to Live & Reloaded than that of Bad Fur Day, among others.

* ''FireEmblem: Shadow Dragon'' appears to be getting this from the general fandom. People say that this is a "step backward" because [[FireEmblemTellius the latest entries]] were in 3D, had a rescuing system, skills, and many, many more aspects that made the game more complex. IntelligentSystems said this was a remake and it looks more like a port.

* ''{{Pokemon}}'' tends to get a lot of this, especially in regards to the core gameplay remaining as the monster count climbs. In general, Game Freak's strategy seems to be to keep the main titles to the formula while releasing periodic spinoffs - if you want a Pokémon action game, there's ''[[PokemonRanger Ranger]]'' or ''[[PokemonRumble Rumble]]''. If you want an RPG with a deeper plot, there are the ''PokemonColosseum'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' games. Some people just think these are "inferior" because they aren't part of the main series...and what are their complaints? "It's not VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue".

* The first [[NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' film]] 1.0: You Are Not Alone, was basically a film remake of the first six episodes of the original series with a few, subtle changes. When 2.0 came out, the UnpleasableFanbase had the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks opposite direction.]]

** A smaller example is the Tepig family of ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]]''. Being the third Fire/Fighting family in a row will do that for you, especially since it looks like a Dark-type.

* The {{Madden}} franchise has become a whipping boy for any gamer less than mainstream, with it's fans being decried as "mindless frat boys" and the franchise itself accused of only making incremental improvements. The reasons for this are noted at the top of the page.

* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl.'' Though YourMileageMayVary on whether it didn't change enough or it [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks changed too much]]. The casual players noticed a few [[NostalgiaLevel reappearing stages]] and the fact that the idea of the game is the same as the previous installments; the hardcore players see ''Brawl'' as a complete deviation from the technical gameplay they are used to.

* The ''{{Gundam}}'' universe. Though, in their defense, {{Sunrise}} does have an unhealthy obsession with rehashing old character & mech designs. Not to mention when they decided to change the design in ''TurnAGundam'', [[UnpleasableFanbase it was met with heavy derision from the community]].

** A lot of the Pokémon in ''[=HeartGold=]'' and ''[=SoulSilver=]'' haven't been leveled up much from [[PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold/Silver]]. Cue outrage once the games are leaked, never mind better move sets, new abilities and a smarter computer.
** A smaller example is the Tepig family of ''[[PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]]''. Being the third Fire/Fighting family in a row will do that for you, especially since it looks like a Dark-type.
* ''AnimalCrossing: City Folk'' has been receiving plenty of criticism for being too much like its predecessors.

* One of the key points of criticism raised about ''{{Casino}}'' on it's release was that it treads a lot of the same ground as ''{{Goodfellas}}'', also made by MartinScorsese.

* {{Evanescence}} fans tend to give this treatment to We Are The Fallen, made up of former {{Evanescence}} members Ben Moody, Rocky Gray and John LeCompt and singer Carly Smithson. Carly is often accused of sounding too much like Amy Lee, and the band of being an Evanescence ripoff.

* [=JRPGs=] in general get this for consisting of the same basic gameplay. Not surprisingly, any game that ''does'' attempt to break from this trope is usually badged with TheyChangedItNowItSucks, even if it's a company like, say, Square Enix, that attempts to break the mold with something really gutsy like...their ''[[FinalFantasyXII flagship]] [[FinalFantasyXIII franchise]].''

* Similar to the Zelda example above, ''FinalFantasy'' fans wanted a classic (1-6) style game with the technology of the PS1 era game. What they got was ''FinalFantasyIX'', which they complained about being too much like the classic games. Then they got ''FinalFantasyX'', which they complained was too much like the modern (7-8) games. Square completely ignored them for ''FinalFantasyXI''.

* In E3 2010, when Nintendo showed off several titles, ranging from [[MarioSportsMix a several Mario sports game in one]], [[DonkeyKongCountryReturns a revival]] of ''DonkeyKongCountry'', ''TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', ''MetroidOtherM'', ''VideoGame/KirbysEpicYarn'', ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'', and [[Game/GoldenEyeWii a remake]] of ''[[VideoGame/GoldenEye1997 GoldenEye]]'', many people were naturally pleased but just as many others, such as the [[TheSpoonyExperiment SpoonyOne]], wrote all these games off as just being more of the same as they been playing for the past 15 years, ignoring the fact that most of the games [[CriticalResearchFailure clearly]] [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch were not]].

* In E3 2010, when Nintendo showed off several titles, ranging from [[MarioSportsMix a several Mario sports game in one]], [[DonkeyKongCountryReturns a revival]] of ''DonkeyKongCountry'', ''TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', ''MetroidOtherM'', ''KirbysEpicYarn'', ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'', and [[Game/GoldenEyeWii a remake]] of ''[[VideoGame/GoldenEye1997 GoldenEye]]'', many people were naturally pleased but just as many others, such as the [[TheSpoonyExperiment SpoonyOne]], wrote all these games off as just being more of the same as they been playing for the past 15 years, ignoring the fact that most of the games [[CriticalResearchFailure clearly]] [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch were not]].

** And yet god help Konami should they [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks decide to do something]] [[CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence different]] [[CastlevaniaCurseOfDarkness with]] [[CastlevaniaJudgement the]] [[CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow series]]...

** A lot of this overlaps with the NostalgiaFilter. The older Castlevania titles include ''several'' remakes of the first game.

* When [[ModernWarfare Modern Warfare 3]] was announced, the general reaction was "CALL OF DUTY HAS BECOME THE NEW MADDEN!".

* "CrashBandicoot" falls here prior to Twinsanity. They just copied what Naughty Dog (the original Crash owners) with Warped, Cortex Strikes back, and Team Racing for every game. Crash of the Titans and Mind Over Mutant fall under TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
** Same thing happened to poor "SpyroTheDragon", where the new owners just copy what the original owners did.

* FinalFantasy gets a surprising amount of criticism for this to the point where some people complain about there being too many games on the same franchise.

* Before it became a long-loved classic of 64-bit gaming, ''BanjoKazooie'' was accused of being a Mario clone simply because it was a 3D platforming game. Today its being a collector platform game with a hub but its still loved.

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