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* The EP ''[[PrecisionFStrike Who the Fuck Are Arctic Monkeys]]'' was designed specifically to stop the band from falling victim to this trope by being unlikely to be played on mainstream radio (due to the profanity in the title), and deliberately ineligible for either the single chart (due to containing five different tracks) or the album chart (due to its length).

* {{Disco}} flowered hugely and briefly as an underground club scene and focused on dance. Being an urban phenomenon, this alienated rural and suburban. As a black phenomenon, it angered th racists. As a queer phenomenon, it angered the homophobes. Note that ''Film/SaturdayNightFever'', while a subversive exploration of urban life, is completely focused on straight, white characters. So as its popularity grew, these subcultures found themselves alienated and driven away from what had been safe spaces. Black disco fans, for example, moved on to HipHop, which draws a great deal of influence from Disco. As the marginalized communities that had made disco a phenomenon to begin with drew away, it also lost a lot of prominent artists and the movement lost its fire. These subcultures now hated disco as much as its detractors, but for the opposite reason. Since everyone hated it, disco died.

* Music/{{Genesis|Band}}. Thanks to a BrokenBase, they are a textbook example of this trope. If you want to see someone have an aneurysm, just ask a fan of the Music/PeterGabriel era what they think of the ''Invisible Touch'' album. Even [[Literature/AmericanPsycho Wall Street psychopaths]] like that song.
** Much of the backlash against the group very likely was a product of the backlash Music/PhilCollins received in TheEighties, as his popularity and visibility increased through the decade. It was difficult to escape Phil at the time, between his session work, solo albums, Genesis, his hit movie themes, acting work and numerous charity concert appearances (UsefulNotes/LiveAid especially).
* Music/GooGooDolls. After their album ''A Boy Named Goo'', they drastically changed their sound from high-tempo rock/punk to the mellower soft rock they're famous for today after the success of their single ''Name''. It's a good thing they didn't go with the original planned name for the band, [[IntentionallyAwkwardTitle The Sex Maggots]]. WordOfGod says they were going to do this anyway, because they were tired of being labeled as ripoffs of The Replacements.

** Cries of "sell out" were also heard in the previous decade, once they signed with a major label and released ''Dookie'' - which committed the extra sin of selling 10 million copies in the US alone!

* Famous PostHardcore band Jawbox was signed by Atlantic Records in 1994, in the midst of the Music/{{Nirvana}}-provoked AlternativeRock craze. Since they'd already had 5 years under their belt, they managed to score a very favourable record contract that allowed them control over their recordings and the ability to organise their own shows. Regardless, the FanDumb came fast and furious: one particularly psychotic fan wrote to the band '''wishing for their death in a fiery van accident'''.
* Jonny Davy confessed to feeling this way about Music/JobForACowboy during the height of their fame. Once the initial rush of what was effectively his high school garage band filling up function halls several states away and blowing up all over [=MySpace=] before taking him across the world just a few years after forming had worn off, he began to feel that they had gotten way too big way too fast without really having earned it. Co-headlining with Music/{{Behemoth}} and being billed above Music/HateEternal with just one album was a particularly big sore spot for him, as he loved both bands and felt that he should have had to pay his dues supporting them. This also led to their collective decision to abandon the deathcore genre; ''Doom'' fast became a BlackSheepHit for them, as none of them particularly liked deathcore and hated that they had blown up because of it, and they all decided that they would rather play death metal and risk losing their status and having to get day jobs than play a genre that they didn't care for just so they could make a living off of their music.

* Music/JustinBieber: Many of the people that supported him when he made videos on [=YouTube=] abandoned him when he ascended superstardom at the turn of the New Tens. Now his hatedom greatly outsizes his fandom.

* Lene Marlin. The Norwegian singer had a huge success in Italy and Japan (of all places!) with her first album, ''Playing my game''. Released with little fanfare, the album was not technically exquisite, but most fans loved it anyway and thought of it as simple yet made with passion -- music for the sake of itself, rather than in the pursuit of the holy dollar. As a result, it was a surprise hit, and good times were had by all. In 2003, came the highly anticipated release of the second album, ''Another Day''. Cue many of the fans (the most outspoken ones, usually) lamenting sore disappointment that Lene had sold out, that while the quality of the music had improved that of the lyrics had plummeted, that the album had been written to cash in on the success of her name, BlahBlahBlah. The third album, ''Lost in a moment'', was unsurprisingly met with even more bashing. The fourth album, the experimental ''Twist the truth'', it was unsurprisingly met with cries of "it's too different!" by the same people who used to complain that Lene's music was always the same.

* According to many a disillusioned Music/{{OFWGKTA}} fan, the group [[DarthWiki/RuinedForever completely fell off]] following the success of frontman Tyler, The Creator's viral single "Yonkers" and subsequent album ''Goblin'' (a view that Tyler himself shares to some degree, as he hates "Yonkers" and most of his old output, and sought to distance himself from it with ''Flower Boy''). Earl Sweatshirt openly sought to invoke this circa ''Doris'', stating that he knew he'd gain some new fans and lose some old ones, and was happy that he would because he ''wanted'' to lose the old fans who were just there for his horrorcore output and didn't want him to grow as an artist.
* Harlem Shake by Baauer. Many are annoyed by the popularity of the song due to the meme that goes by the same name.
* A case of It Was Popular, So It Sucks: Music/GeorgPhilippTelemann was the most (commercially) successful and highly regarded German composer of his time and in the course of an extremely long and productive life (1681-1767) wrote more music than Music/JohannSebastianBach and [[Music/GeorgeFredericHandel Georg Friedrich Händel]] combined. After Bach was rediscovered in the mid-19th century, it became fashionable among musicologists and music-lovers to regard him as ''the'' great genius of BaroqueMusic. Since Bach had not been very successful commercially, it was easy to paint him as [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible a misunderstood and unappreciated master]] who wrote for eternity while the "shallow" Telemann marketed himself by pandering to the tastes of the uncouth audience and producing notes as if in a factory. It would take over a century, during which other German Baroque composers besides Bach and Händel were rediscovered and reappreciated, for Telemann to (largely) regain his original stature. The ironic thing was that Bach and Telemann admired each other[[note]] (Telemann at Bach's request became godfather to his son Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, and wrote a sonnet in Bach's honour when he died) [[/note]] and Bach not only copied out by hand entire cantatas written by Telemann, but would also sometimes incorporate Telemann scores into his own works, as was perfectly normal in the 18th century (before copyright laws). And then admirers of Bach like Philipp Spitta and Albert Schweitzer (yes, ''that'' Albert Schweitzer) inadvertently used pieces attributed to Bach but actually written by Teleman (as it turned out after musicologists properly took stock of the surviving part of Telemann's huge oeuvre) to "prove" the nigh-infinite superiority of Bach over Telemann.
* [[Music/AntonioVivaldi Vivaldi]] was popular during his lifetime, but died in obscurity and was forgotten by most of the world until the 20th century. Today, his ''Four Seasons'' has a fair {{Hatedom}} [[BadToTheBone due to them being overplayed in popular media]], especially ''Spring''. Their haters tend to forget that [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny for 1723, they would have been incredible to listen to]]; they were the first concertos to put so much passion into a single instrument and forever defined what concertos in the future would be like.
* Averted with ''Lata Mangeshkar''. Despite being one of the most popular singers that Bollywood ever has known plenty of Indians consider her to be one of the greatest people that ever lived due to her incredible singing voice. One has to wonder how heavily Bollywood averts this though.
* Music/{{Watain}}. The BlackMetal community is notorious for its elitism towards bands that achieve even the slightest amount of mainstream recognition. So it goes without saying that when the band received a Swedish Grammi for ''Lawless Darkness,'' the fandom went berserk. Interestingly, there are some who accuse them of always having sucked, and being little more than knockoffs of Music/{{Dissection}} and Music/{{Mayhem}}.[[note]]Never mind that Mayhem have received a quite a bit of critical acclaim amongst the fandom as well, in no small part due to the controversy they brought on themselves in TheNineties.[[/note]]
* The HipHop genre ''as a whole'' fits this trope. Not only is hip-hop undeniably one of, if not the most, popular music genres in the world, but it's listened to by so many people that it can be ''very'' hard to tell how many of them genuinely enjoy the genre, or how many of them either listen to it because it's trendy or haven't explored enough music to find something they personally like more. It's gotten to the point that fans of other genres instantly write off rap due to how commercialized it is, and label its fans as ignorant people manipulated by the masses, even though that is certainly '''not''' always the case. Doesn't help that core hip-hop/Rap fans kinda share the same cynical opinion about modern Rap/Hip-Hop.

* Music/{{ABBA}}. This complaint arises in their fan community every time there is a major surge in interest, the latest being the success of ''Theatre/MammaMia''. Interestingly, each wave of popularity leads to a status increase for past newcomers, to the point where "Goldies" (newcomers after the release of the "ABBA Gold" album), who were ridiculed on their arrival, are now praised as "true fans" by the older fans who criticized them. Many of these older fans ignore the fact that they first liked the band in the 1970's, at the all-time peak of their success and popularity.
** That's going to get more interesting...

* Music/AgainstMe not only got this, but their fans got outright hostile about it. Fans claimed the band sold out when they moved from the tiny No Idea label to Fat Wreck Chords in 2003, to the point where fans slashed the tires of the bands tour van and vandalized it and reportedly poured bleach over their merch table. The bizarre thing is that Fat Wreck Chords was well known for being anti-establishment indie label. Ironically, there was a lot less outcry when the band left FWC for an actual major label, Sire Records in 2007.

* The Arctic Monkeys' EP ''[[PrecisionFStrike Who The Fuck Are Arctic Monkeys]]'' was designed specifically to stop the band from falling victim to this trope by being unlikely to be played on mainstream radio (due to the profanity in the title), and deliberately ineligible for either the single chart (due to containing five different tracks) or the album chart (due to its length).
** After the release of ''AM'' (which bought a massive amount of new fans), many people have accused the band of becoming "americanized" due to their [[MrFanservice slick haircuts, suits and stage presence]] which they feel is a betrayal of their original image of humble, shy teenagers.

* Music/BruceSpringsteen: Some longtime fans resented the ones who started liking Bruce after only "Born in the USA" album came out in '84 and he danced with Courtney Cox in the "Dancing in the Dark" video.

* Music/DavidBowie usually falls victim to TheyChangedItNowItSucks accusations due to his penchant for the NewSoundAlbum trope, but the deliberately mainstream pop-rock of ''Let's Dance'' (1983) -- which resulted in the biggest-selling album of his career -- led to criticism along these lines as well. It got worse when his next two albums (''Tonight'' and ''Never Let Me Down'') followed in that vein to diminishing returns, thanks in part to [[MusicIsPolitics pressure from his record label]]. As well, when he tried to merge his latest sound and stadium venues with the visual stylings and older tunes of previous tours for the Glass Spider Tour of 1987, he sold a lot of tickets but found that audiences didn't appreciate his efforts while critics called them overblown. Bowie, now far wealthier than he'd been in TheSeventies but dissatisfied with his work and risking ArtistDisillusionment, chose to move on -- first to the unsuccessful HardRock group Tin Machine and then to solo work that was driven more by art than commerce.

** Happened after ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' in the minds of some of their fans, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks who preferred their old psychedelic music]] over the new [[DarkerAndEdgier harder and darker]] material.
** Though in this case, the band themselves felt this way, particularly Roger Waters, who didn't like the larger, noisier audiences that their greater exposure attracted (leading to his infamous, sputum-powered CreatorBacklash during the ''Animals'' tour).
** Also poor old Syd Barrett, who passed his own fame-tolerance threshold back when they were plugging their first album, leading to him [[CreatorBreakdown taking permanent refuge in drugs.]]
* Music/{{Queen}}, particularly in the years after Freddie Mercury's passing, where their most famous works skyrocketed in popularity with their use in films, commercials, sports events and random Internet {{meme|ticMutation}}s. The trope, however, most likely began to take effect as early as 1974 when "Killer Queen" started climbing the charts. ''Theatre/WeWillRockYou'' and ''Film/BohemianRhapsody'' have only intensified the sentiment amongst older fans.
* Music/RandyNewman parodied this on his 1999 ode to over-the-hill rock stars, "I'm Dead (But I Don't Know It)."

* Music/{{REM}} fans felt this way about the band after they made the move to Creator/WarnerBros, and specifically in the wake of their surprise "Losing My Religion" hit.

* Brazilian band RPM had such a meteoric rise in the mid-1980s (to the point a live album made to cash in while they were still on top is one of the best selling ever in the country!) that backlash, specially from other bands, was imminent. Frontman Paulo Ricardo has declared that “You can't be big and cool at the same time, because the middle class will never like the same group the cleaning lady listens to. It was suddenly in fashion to complain about RPM.”

* The "vinyl revival" has gotten hit with some of this as mainstream retailers like Urban Outfitters, Best Buy and Walmart started stocking players and LP records in the '10s, as opposed to small independent record stores. [[SarcasmMode (No one seemed to complain much about chain stores selling vinyl in the format's heyday)]]. Audiophiles tend to deride cheap portable suitcase-styled players that have become popular at these stores like those from Crosley and Victrola out of a belief that the tracking force of the ceramic cartridges damages records. Some people also resent the way some younger buyers seem to treat records more as a fashion accessory than a music format. [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking And these younger people keep calling records "vinyls."]] A more legitimate complaint is that the demand for records has overburdened pressing plants and leading to quality control in the finished product slipping, as well as jacking up the price of used records.

* Nearly any online community, forum, or game.

* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' strangely is a more complicated and actually sympathetic case of this. Originally the series was nichest of niche mangas being fairly well known in Japan but much less popular in the west barring the [[Anime/Berserk1997 1997 anime]] (which aired before many Gen Z anime fans were even born). The ''Berserk'' series however managed to turn into a SleeperHit thanks to getting more coverage with the ''Anime/BerserkTheGoldenAgeArc'' films, several video games, an infamous [[Anime/Berserk2016 2016 anime]] and Guts showing up in the popular [=YouTube=] series ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle!'' Not to mention the critically acclaimed ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' series openly drawing influence from it. This well deserved newfound popularity nevertheless generated immense NewbieBoom with newer fans dragging ''Berserk'' and its very dark material into the mainstream eye — which as you can imagine wasn’t particularly pleasant for those quite sensitive to its often extremely disturbing content (everything from rape, paedophilia to unborn babies getting mutated by demon seed) and while the manga still has great beauty and nuance to it, that softer appeal was drowned out by the amount of fans glorifying the violence and stomach churning elements of it. It’s no surprise that certain people are simply just turned off by it and bash the series as seemingly grotesque and edgy spectacle. Since the author Kentaro Miura’s tragic passing however the negativity towards ''Berserk'' has drastically lessened with far more people declaring it a masterpiece of art and storytelling, despite obviously not being a story for everyone.

* Eveyn the most popular manga, ''Manga/OnePiece,'' has fallen subject to this. It is the best selling manga in history and the third best selling comic book of all times. It's also been consistently popular all over the world for almost two decades. Naturally, some people are taken aback by this popularity and consider the series overrated.

** Moore really hates being popular. "ComicBook/TheKillingJoke" was not intended to be canon by him, but DC liked it so much or it was so popular that it was made canon. Some of his fans seem to claim DC is "lazy" for doing so.

* ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' saw a huge NewbieBoom as a result of ''[[VideoGame/AnimalCrossingNewHorizons New Horizons]]'' coming out during the {{UsefulNotes/coronavirus}} pandemic, offering a relaxing experience during the lockdowns. This has not sat well with some veterans of the series however, who believe that the game was watered-down to [[LowestCommonDenominator appeal to as many people as possible]], citing cons such as the repetitive (and often [[SweetnessAversion sickeningly sweet]]) villager dialogue and the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks lack of features from previous games]]. Not helping matters is that more people entering the fandom means more drama over things such as turnip prices and the market for items/villagers, which some fans find to be exhausting.

** Parodied in Season 2 Episode 09, "Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls" which focused on film snobbery about independent films being better simply because of the "independent" label: "If you work in the entertainment industry, and you make money, you're a sellout."
** Parodied in Season 3's "[[Recap/SouthParkS3E11Chinpokomon Chinpokomon]]", where the parents thwart the plan of the Japanese toy sellers to brainwash the children with the titular [[CaptainErsatz Chinpokomon]] toys by buying the toys themselves, hence making the kids think the toys now suck (although this is more because "Adults are uncool and lame, so anything they like must also be uncool and lame" than this trope).

* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "The Day The Earth Stood Cool" dealt with a "cool" new family moving in next door bringing in lifestyles like breastfeeding, retro fashion and natural substances. Springfield gets overrun by these hipster types and are adopting their lifestyles. When New York Times declared Springfield the "coolest city", all the cool people moved out when the town has been "played out".

** For that matter, ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' in general is a very popular AcceptableTarget to mock because of this trope, especially {{Website/Reddit}}. The first few games enjoyed SacredCow status; even ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' did because it was different (and because a certain [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Internet critic]] praised it). Then it started to become popular. Nowadays if you say anything positive about ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'', you'll be lucky if you aren't murdered in your sleep.

** The game’s lore also began stagnating which fans attributed to Blizzards compulsion to add new chapters and threads at the expense of developing present ones to the point many players opted to ignore it altogether based on how slow it moved and how little of it was actually in the game proper. Whilst the announcement of a PvE mod for [[VideoGame/Overwatch2]] promises to rectify the issue, time will tell if it reignites interest.

* Although not exactly a fandom, many followers of various conspiracy theories seem to subscribe to this mindset; many seem to reject the official record not because they sincerely believe it's wrong and want to know the truth, but simply ''because'' it's the official record and has been widely accepted. These 'theorists' then cling to the alternative theories because accepting them makes them feel smarter than the 'sheeple' who accept the official record ("I'm smart enough to see The Truth and you're not!"). This can have interesting results in cases where the official 'lies' are actually more accurate and / or make more sense than the alternative theory, or the alternative theory is patently flawed and nonsensical. Although actual examples are numerous (and far too bitterly contested to be discussed in detail here), many of the alternative theories around 9/11 appear to have attracted these types.

Sometimes a valid complaint -- fans might call foul when a previously creative artist starts PanderingToTheBase or watering down their work to appeal to the LowestCommonDenominator. Fame can also have a bad effect on the artist's attitude -- if they don't become a [[SmallNameBigEgo complete egomaniac]] who [[DearNegativeReader treats fans like dirt]] and [[AcquiredSituationalNarcissism turns their back on the scene they became famous in]] [[InWithTheInCrowd for a newer, more famous crowd]], they might become [[ArtistDisillusionment disillusioned by fame.]] On a practical level, more popular live shows may require bigger, less intimate venues -- shows known for energy and spontaneity may move towards a heavily produced and choreographed live show. Low budget works known for cheesy effects and bizarre plots might switch to a slicker, more commercial style and "safer" plots, while EnsembleDarkhorse characters may be excessively milked and/or {{Flanderized}} into shallow parodies of themselves -- see also TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

* Some fans of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' LightNovels did not take it kindly when their semi-obscure books were gonna be adapted into an anime and bring in new fans who never even heard of the books. Some of those fans also got pissed when it became a surprise hit and a CashCowFranchise.

* ''LightNovel/ReZero'' is the most vivid example of this after the Titans Attack, when EnsembleDarkhorse Rem suddenly gained wild popularity, which along with a series of unexpected turns and TakeThat made the series incredibly popular. As a result of this, the show received an incredibly huge HypeBacklash at the expense of people who tried to interpret in a negative way almost any little thing in the work to prove to everyone that it "was not as gorgeous and revolutionary as you all say!". And in a more narrow example, part of the show's own fans, distanced themselves from Rem as a heroine, blaming her fans for FanDumb and complaining that because of her popularity, most of the series' products were devoted to her, despite the fact that she was not even the main character.

** The game’s lore also began stagnating which fans attributed to Blizzards compulsion to add new chapters and threads at the expense of developing present ones to the point many players opted to ignore it altogether based on how slow it moved and how little of it was actually in the game proper. Whilst the announcement of a PvE mod for [[VideoGame/Overwatch 2]] promises to rectify the issue, time will tell if it reignites interest.

Sometimes this perception can be a bit of a fallacy -- high profile works are more prone to being picked apart by critics, while small creators are looked on more favorably or even [[UnacceptableTargets immune to criticism]].

* For a while, using the Phillips CD-I games as a source for WebAnimation/YouTubePoop was frowned upon by the members of the [=YouChew=] community for years now, although some people are still able to make some funny videos using them, and in more recent years members of the forum frequently make jokes involving CD-I memes, though in a more post-ironic manner.

** Wearing the Ghastly Gibus, the Mercenary or the Pyrovision googles is often seen as proof of a lack of skill, as these cosmetics are the only one easily available for free to play players. Free to Play Players cannot receive hats from a random drop, and they can't trade with other players, thus removing the two bigger sources of hats in the game, while the Mercenary is automatically handed to a new player the first time they log in, and the Gibus and Googles are obtained as soon as you land a domination on a player wearing said items. Since premium players never wear the Gibus once they end up getting a new, fancier hat, some players have it equipped it on purpose [[ObfuscatingStupidity in order to lower their opponents' expectations]], then catch them off guard by pulling off advanced techniques.

* According to many a disillusioned Music/{{OFWGKTA}} fan, the group [[DarthWiki/RuinedForever completely fell off]] following the success of frontman Tyler, The Creator's viral single "Yonkers" and subsequent album ''Goblin'' (a view that Tyler himself shares to some degree, as he hates "Yonkers" and most of his old output, and sought to distance himself from it with ''Flower Boy''). Earl Sweatshirt openly sought to invoke this circa ''Doris'', stating that he knew he'd gain some new fans and lose some old ones, and was happy that he would because he ''wanted'' to lose the old fans who were just there for his [[OldShame horrorcore output]] and didn't want him to grow as an artist.

** Much of the backlash against the group very likely was a product of the backlash Music/PhilCollins received in TheEighties, as his popularity and visibility increased through the decade. It was difficult to escape Phil at the time, between his session work, solo albums, Genesis, his hit movie themes, acting work and numerous charity concert appearances (Music/LiveAid especially).

** On a character-related note, this is how some fans (and especially his haters) feel about [[HairTriggerTemper Katsuki Bakugo]]. It's gotten to the point that they dislike him not because he is a {{Jerkass}}, but because of annoyance and fatigue at him continuously winning first place at the popularity polls at the expense of characters they personally prefer.

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' started to get this, after the reboot premiered on Paramount+ in 2021, and became one of the streaming service's most watched shows. Especially since people preferred it back when it was a nostalgic cancelled cult hit back in the 2010s that they could look back on.

** On a character-related note, this is how some fans (and especially his haters) feel about [[HairTriggerTemper Katsuki Bakugo]]. It's gotten to the point that they dislike him not because he is a {{Jerkass}}, but because of his fans' obsession with him, of their claiming him to be [[CharacterDevelopment a well-developed character]] and their tendency to bully those who don't like him and/or even those who DO like him but he is not their favorite character.

** When ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' came out, it had a skyrocket of public acclaim and defining the standard of the UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie, with many proclaiming 'Oh man, Avatar was awesome!', only for about a few months later when it became the highest-grossing film of all time, a huge hatedom came out and proclaimed it as one of the worst films of all time while quite a few of its fandom changed their mind and stated 'Yeah, it's just ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'' [[RecycledInSpace in space]]'. Conversely, ''Film/TheHurtLocker''; which was directed by Cameron's ex-wife Kathryn Bigelow, was LeftForDead as a box office flop until somehow, it came out of nowhere around awards time to huge critical acclaim, with many proclaiming, '''Avatar'' is Lame. This is Best Picture right here'. Its momentum would be enough to upset and punch out ''Avatar'' at the Oscars and the [=BAFTAs=], including the Best Picture award for both (and making it the lowest-grossing film of all time to win Best Picture), leaving ''Avatar'' to only beat ''Hurt Locker'' in the Golden Globes. For extra irony, in the wake of Avatar becoming the new highest grossing movie, it actually started to become trendy to ''like'' Titanic again. The one thing ''everyone'' agrees on with ''Avatar'' though - [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome the visuals are incredible]].
** Practically the same happened with ''Film/AvatarTheWayOfWater'' (now the fourth biggest grossing movie ever), only this time it came faster than in 2009. There's some bafflement on how it managed to gross over $2 billion, some of it stemming from discourse that arose during the decade and a half between the first and second ''Avatar'' films that has been largely dominated by the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse and its much discussed "formula for success" (some of the anti-''Avatar'' discourse is fuelled by the FandomRivalry that kicked in when the re-releases of the first film made it outgross ''Film/AvengersEndgame'').

** Practically the same happened with ''Film/AvatarTheWayOfWater'' (now the fourth biggest grossing movie ever). There's some bafflement on how it managed to gross over $2 billion, some of it stemming from discourse that arose during the decade and a half between the first and second ''Avatar'' films that has been largely dominated by the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse and its much discussed "formula for success".

** When ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' came out, it had a skyrocket of public acclaim and defining the standard of the UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie, with many proclaiming 'Oh man, Avatar was awesome!', only for about a few months later when it became the highest-grossing film of all time, a huge hatedom came out and proclaimed it as one of the worst films of all time while quite a few of its fandom changed their mind and stated 'Yeah, it's just ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'' [[RecycledInSpace in space]]'. Conversely, ''Film/TheHurtLocker''; which was directed by Cameron's ex-wife Kathryn Bigelow, was LeftForDead as a box office flop until somehow, it came out of nowhere around awards time to huge critical acclaim, with many proclaiming, '''Avatar'' is Lame. This is Best Picture right here'. Its momentum would be enough to upset and punch out ''Avatar'' at the Oscars and the [=BAFTAs=], including the Best Picture award for both (and making it the lowest-grossing film of all time to win Best Picture), leaving ''Avatar'' to only beat ''Hurt Locker'' in the Golden Globes. For extra irony, in the wake of Avatar becoming the new highest grossing movie, it actually started to become trendy to ''like'' Titanic again. The one thing ''everyone'' agrees on with ''Avatar'' though - [[SceneryPorn the visuals are incredible]].

* The comic community site Scans Daily seems to have a rule of "the more mainstream it is, the more critical we are." High-profile events in particular seem to be prone to getting picked apart, while lesser known comics are looked on much more favorably. As a general rule if your stuff is smaller or more underground the community will like it, but heaven help you if you get to write an A-list character. A prime example is Dan Slott, whose Spider-Man work, which is generally well received by critics and fans, couldn't be ripped to shreds fast enough. On the other hand one would think that Slott's Silver Surfer work was the greatest thing since sliced bread according to SD. The difference? Spider-Man consistently sold in the better than most, while Silver Surfer was middling at best.

* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' got this treatment after it skyrocketed in popularity during its second and third seasons. [[Film/TheLastAirbender The live action movie]] certainly doesn't help matters.

* ''Manga/DeathNote'' fans are not too thrilled about their series being dubbed, not so much out of fear of the dub's alterations [[TranslationStyleChoices (as there are very few)]] as fear that the series will be ruined by an influx of * shudder* people who watch Creator/AdultSwim. Dub argument aside, ''Manga/DeathNote'' in general has fallen victim to this. Back when it was new, ''Death Note'' was the greatest series in years, all the cool kids liked it, and making references to ''Death Note'' was the best way to flaunt your otaku elitism. Then the anime came along and ''Death Note'' became super-popular, and so now the trendy thing among the otaku elite is bashing it and making fun of all the stupid ''Death Note'' fanspawn.

** Campbell is also becoming famous for playing the Pizza Poppa vendor[[note]]He sells pizza balls, which are a pizza variant unique to the dimension he is in[[/note]] in the 2022 Marvel film ''Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness'' with a meme involving Doctor Strange cursing the hand of Campbell's character to punch his own face repeatedly.