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** Asmodeus is probably the biggest, although he wasn't technically a god until 4e, where he became the god of indulgence by absorbing the divine essence of another god. He's the literal ruler of Hell, and, according to some sources, was one of the creators of the multiverse (representing evil, whereas his sister Jazirian was good).

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*** GodOfDarkness Shar acts as the poster girl for DarkIsEvil. She's an OmnicidalManiac who as one of TheOldGods existed before all of creation, and hated existence itself from the moment it came into being. Her followers are all murderous {{Straw Nihilist}}s who she instructs to [[HopeCrusher snuff out hope, joy, trust and love wherever possible]]. In spite of her trying to put the entire pantheon out of work, the TopGod Ao just lets her do her thing in order to maintain the BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil.
** SatanicArchetype Asmodeus is probably the biggest, although he wasn't technically a god until 4e, where he became the god of indulgence by absorbing the divine essence of another god. He's the literal ruler of Hell, and, according to some sources, was one of the creators of the multiverse (representing evil, whereas his sister Jazirian was good).
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** Alduin is a very complicated example. He is essentially the [[BeastOfTheApocalypse God of the Apocalypse]], and he ''is'' evil, but much like Mehrunes Dagon, his divine position isn't so much evil as an unfortunate necessity. Alduin is ''evil'' because instead of waiting for the end of the world like he's supposed to, he's slacking off in Skyrim trying to be an EvilOverlord.

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** Alduin is a very complicated zig-zagged example. He is essentially the [[BeastOfTheApocalypse God of the Apocalypse]], and he ''is'' evil, but much like Mehrunes Dagon, his divine position isn't so much evil as an unfortunate necessity. There's even in-game argument on whether he ought to be stopped that's never conclusively answered, but Paarthurnax (who's probably the closest thing there is to an authority on the matter) admits that 'I like this world and don't want it to die just yet' is as good enough reason for opposing Alduin is ''evil'' because instead of waiting for as any, so it seems that being the end god of the Apocalypse makes Alduin evil ''from a present perspective'' in which the world like he's supposed to, he's slacking off in Skyrim trying is still salvageable. [[JerkassGods He's also kind of a dick]] and tries to be an EvilOverlord.kill the Dragonborn, which is another 'eh, good enough' reason to beat him up.

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** Mehrunes Dagon, the Daedric Prince of [[DestroyerDeity Destruction]], often gets this label in-universe (due to his actions typically resulting in the death or ruin of many mortals) and incorrectly by the series' fandom. It is an easy mistake to make given that Dagon has served as the BigBad or GreaterScopeVillain of several games in the series. However, Dagon ultimately subverts the trope. While he is highly destructive, and many of his ''followers'' are straight-up evil, Dagon himself is an amoral force of nature who destroys simply because that is what he is, no more malicious than an earthquake. Dagon also has several redeeming qualities within his sphere, such as governing over Change, which a functioning world requires to exist. (If the old is never "destroyed", there can be no room for anything new.)

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** Mehrunes Dagon, the Daedric Prince of [[DestroyerDeity Destruction]], often gets this label in-universe (due to his actions typically resulting in the death or ruin of many mortals) and incorrectly by the series' fandom. It fans, but theologically speaking he really isn't. He's ''dangerous'', sure, is an easy mistake to make given that Dagon has served as indisputably the BigBad or GreaterScopeVillain of several games in the series. However, Dagon ultimately subverts the trope. While he is highly destructive, GreaterScopeVillain, and many of his ''followers'' are straight-up outright evil, but Dagon himself is an amoral force of nature who destroys simply because that is what he is, no more malicious than an earthquake. Dagon also has several redeeming qualities within merely acting according to his sphere, nature; he's only as evil as an earthquake or forest fire, and like most natural disasters, his sphere does have positive aspects, such as governing over Change, which a functioning world requires to exist. (If the old is never "destroyed", there can be no room for anything new.)revolution and change.


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** Alduin is a very complicated example. He is essentially the [[BeastOfTheApocalypse God of the Apocalypse]], and he ''is'' evil, but much like Mehrunes Dagon, his divine position isn't so much evil as an unfortunate necessity. Alduin is ''evil'' because instead of waiting for the end of the world like he's supposed to, he's slacking off in Skyrim trying to be an EvilOverlord.
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** Autonomy, ostensibly the Shard of rugged individualism and going it alone. Except she doesn't exactly live up to the most positive reading of that ideal... She believes in a DieOrFly mentality, where she pushes her followers to make big plays with great rewards for succeeding and likely death if they fail. In her eyes, you must continually earn your right to continue existing. Whilst she certainly desires to stand apart from the other Shards and do her own thing, even going so far as to close the borders of her home planet [[ComicBook/WhiteSand Taldain]] so no outsiders can interfere with it, she isn't willing to afford the same respect to anyone else, and meddles in other worlds constantly. While every other Shard seen so far only acts on one world, Autonomy has spread her influence everywhere, manifesting semi-autonomous avatars on other worlds (or just elevating a mortal to that status) that function as that world's Shard, and thus is relevant to multiple series. As such, she's the best candidate at the moment for the GreaterScopeVillain of the entire Cosmere.

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** Autonomy, ostensibly the Shard of rugged individualism and going it alone. Except [[TheSocialDarwinist she doesn't exactly live up to the most positive reading of that ideal... ideal...]] She believes in a DieOrFly mentality, where she pushes her followers to make big plays with great rewards for succeeding and likely death if they fail. In her eyes, you must continually earn your right to continue existing. Whilst she certainly desires to stand apart from the other Shards and do her own thing, even going so far as to close the borders of her home planet [[ComicBook/WhiteSand Taldain]] so no outsiders can interfere with it, she isn't willing to afford the same respect to anyone else, and meddles in other worlds constantly. While every other Shard seen so far only acts on one world, Autonomy has spread her influence everywhere, manifesting semi-autonomous avatars on other worlds (or just elevating a mortal to that status) that function as that world's Shard, and thus is relevant to multiple series. As such, she's the best candidate at the moment for the GreaterScopeVillain of the entire Cosmere.
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*** ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'': Autonomy is at least the ArcVillain after Ruin in the second Mistborn era. She doesn't get directly named until the last book, ''[[Literature/TheLostMetal]]'', but she was the one behind the Set; Trell is yet another one of her avatars. [[spoiler:She is concerned about Scadrial's fast advancement after the Lord Ruler stopped holding the planet in MedievalStasis, and desires to either replace Harmony as its god or destroy it before it can become a threat. She's stopped on both counts and is forced to retreat, though no-one involved has any doubts that she'll try again in the future.]]

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*** ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'': Autonomy is at least the ArcVillain after Ruin in the second Mistborn era. She doesn't get directly named until the last book, ''[[Literature/TheLostMetal]]'', ''Literature/TheLostMetal'', but she was the one behind the Set; Trell is yet another one of her avatars. [[spoiler:She is concerned about Scadrial's fast advancement after the Lord Ruler stopped holding the planet in MedievalStasis, and desires to either replace Harmony as its god or destroy it before it can become a threat. She's stopped on both counts and is forced to retreat, though no-one involved has any doubts that she'll try again in the future.]]
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*** Though she makes no direct appearances in ''Literature/WhiteSand'' despite it being set on her primary home planet, WordOfGod has confirmed that the Sand Lord worshipped by the locals is one of her avatars. Confusingly, the Sand Lord is credited with both creating the Sand Masters and decrying them as an abomination that must be destroyed to two different groups; presumably, Autonomy figures whichever side wins is the more worthy to rule.

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*** Though she makes no direct appearances in ''Literature/WhiteSand'' ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'' despite it being set on her primary home planet, WordOfGod has confirmed that the Sand Lord worshipped by the locals is one of her avatars. Confusingly, the Sand Lord is credited with both creating the Sand Masters and decrying them as an abomination that must be destroyed to two different groups; presumably, Autonomy figures whichever side wins is the more worthy to rule.
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** Autonomy, ostensibly the Shard of rugged individualism and going it alone. Except she doesn't exactly live up to the most positive reading of that ideal... She believes in a DieOrFly mentality, where she pushes her followers to make big plays with great rewards for succeeding and likely death if they fail. In her eyes, you must continually earn your right to continue existing. Whilst she certainly desires to stand apart from the other Shards and do her own thing, even going so far as to close the borders of her home planet [[Literature/WhiteSand Taldain]] so no outsiders can interfere with it, she isn't willing to afford the same respect to anyone else, and meddles in other worlds constantly. While every other Shard seen so far only acts on one world, Autonomy has spread her influence everywhere, manifesting semi-autonomous avatars on other worlds (or just elevating a mortal to that status) that function as that world's Shard, and thus is relevant to multiple series. As such, she's the best candidate at the moment for the GreaterScopeVillain of the entire Cosmere.

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** Autonomy, ostensibly the Shard of rugged individualism and going it alone. Except she doesn't exactly live up to the most positive reading of that ideal... She believes in a DieOrFly mentality, where she pushes her followers to make big plays with great rewards for succeeding and likely death if they fail. In her eyes, you must continually earn your right to continue existing. Whilst she certainly desires to stand apart from the other Shards and do her own thing, even going so far as to close the borders of her home planet [[Literature/WhiteSand [[ComicBook/WhiteSand Taldain]] so no outsiders can interfere with it, she isn't willing to afford the same respect to anyone else, and meddles in other worlds constantly. While every other Shard seen so far only acts on one world, Autonomy has spread her influence everywhere, manifesting semi-autonomous avatars on other worlds (or just elevating a mortal to that status) that function as that world's Shard, and thus is relevant to multiple series. As such, she's the best candidate at the moment for the GreaterScopeVillain of the entire Cosmere.

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