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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Both Snape and Dumbledore are two of the best wizards in the entire franchise but their incompetence as teenagers lead them to colossally screw up and both are still living with the consequences of what they did. In the former’s case, he got the girl he loved killed. In the latter’s case, he got his sister killed. Although Dumbledore has a much better reputation than Snape ever did as he is an out and out good guy while Snape is a known Death Eater.
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Both Snape and Dumbledore are two of the best wizards in the entire franchise franchise, but their incompetence the mistakes they made as teenagers lead (which involved trusting the wrong people) led them to colossally screw up and both are still living with the consequences of what they did. In the former’s case, he got the girl he loved killed. In killed; in the latter’s case, he got his sister killed. Although Dumbledore has Dumbledore, however, does have a much better reputation than Snape ever did as he is an out and out out-and-out good guy while Snape is a known Death Eater.
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* Captain Qwark in ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' wobbled between this and FallenHero in his first two appearances, which implied he was at some point an actual hero before his fall from grace, but settled firmly into this trope at the same time as his HeelFaceTurn.
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* Captain Qwark in ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' wobbled between this and FallenHero in his first two appearances, which implied with implications that he was at some point an washed up and trying to give his fame a shot in the arm. As revealed in ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal'', [[spoiler: Qwark used to be a genuine hero who only did good because he didn't realize his life was in actual hero before his fall from grace, but settled firmly danger. After a narrow escape with Dr. Nefarious, he became much more cowardly and fell into this trope at rather than being a true hero like he used to be]]. When Dr. Nefarious shows up with the same time as Thyrranoids, Qwark leads the Q-Force based on his HeelFaceTurn.old reputation but avoids putting his neck on the line, and later [[spoiler: he fakes his death to get out of having to risk his life fight his old foe again]].
