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** In "Daring Don't", Twilight and Rainbow Dash briefly engage in this InUniverse concerning the DaringDo series.

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** In "Daring Don't", Twilight and Rainbow Dash briefly engage in this InUniverse concerning the DaringDo ''JustForFun/DaringDo'' series.
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->''"These two methods clearly do not agree with one another, which means one of two things: either I'm terribly over-analyzing the content of the illustrations of a beloved children's book, or the bunny's bedroom is moving at extremely high velocity relative to the earth, so that relativistic time dilation makes the six-minute rise of the moon appear to take an hour and ten minutes. Calculating the necessary velocity is left as an exercise for the interested reader."''[[note]]It's 0.9963 ''c'', or roughly 668 million miles per hour.[[/note]]

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->''"These two methods clearly do not agree with one another, which means one of two things: either I'm terribly over-analyzing the content of the illustrations of a beloved children's book, or the bunny's bedroom is moving at extremely high velocity relative to the earth, so that relativistic time dilation makes the six-minute rise of the moon appear to take an hour and ten minutes. Calculating the necessary velocity is left as an exercise for the interested reader."''[[note]]It's 0.9963 ''c'', or c. Yes, 99% of the speed of light, roughly 668 million miles per hour.[[/note]]
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** "UNIT dating" [[note]]figuring out when the Doctor's period working for UNIT happened, not {{shipping}} concerning UNIT members[[/note]]. This one is big enough, wanky enough and enough of a fool's errand that the revival series makes a generous point of mocking it whenever the subject comes up.
** A whole book was written to explain the simple not-quite-an-error in "Warriors of the Deep" when the Doctor claims he tried to negotiate peace between the humans and the Silurians ''twice'' when he'd only done that once (the writer was presumably including the Sea Devils, a cousin to the Silurians, in that count).
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* What various bits of {{Technobabble}} really mean
* [[{{Continuation}} What exactly happened]] after the show ended (see ''{{Firefly}}'' and ''MySoCalledLife'').

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* What various bits of {{Technobabble}} TechnoBabble really mean
* [[{{Continuation}} What exactly happened]] after the show ended (see ''{{Firefly}}'' ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' and ''MySoCalledLife'').''Series/MySoCalledLife'').



* Literature/{{Discworld}} fandom's big issues:-

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** On a more intellectual level, the issue of the much-mangled and twisted Discworld timeline - which was eventually explained ''in universe'' as the History Monks having to repair the timeline, twice, after some idiot human broke it into little pieces.

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** On a more intellectual level, the issue of the much-mangled and twisted Discworld ''Discworld'' timeline - which was eventually explained ''in universe'' as the History Monks having to repair the timeline, twice, after some idiot human broke it into little pieces.
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** Go to the Website/YouTube clip about the creation of the Transformers taken directly from the G1 cartoon it came from. Behold the number of comic fans trying to explain to innocent viewers how it fits into the Transformer God Primus origin from the comics, despite the fact the G1 Transformers cartoon made no reference to Primus, and as far as the TV producers were concerned, this was the intended origin for the show. However, Primus having created Cybertron before the Quintessons' arrival was canonized by the TransformersUniverse comic.

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** Go to the Website/YouTube clip about the creation of the Transformers taken directly from the G1 cartoon it came from. Behold the number of comic fans trying to explain to innocent viewers how it fits into the Transformer God Primus origin from the comics, despite the fact the G1 Transformers cartoon made no reference to Primus, and as far as the TV producers were concerned, this was the intended origin for the show. However, Primus having created Cybertron before the Quintessons' arrival was canonized by the TransformersUniverse [[TransformersExpandedUniverse Wreckers]] comic.
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** Go to the Website/YouTube clip about the creation of the Transformers taken directly from the G1 cartoon it came from. Behold the number of comic fans trying to explain to innocent viewers how it fits into the Transformer God Primus origin from the comics, despite the fact the G1 Transformers cartoon made no reference to Primus, and as far as the TV producers were concerned, this was the intended origin for the show.

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** Go to the Website/YouTube clip about the creation of the Transformers taken directly from the G1 cartoon it came from. Behold the number of comic fans trying to explain to innocent viewers how it fits into the Transformer God Primus origin from the comics, despite the fact the G1 Transformers cartoon made no reference to Primus, and as far as the TV producers were concerned, this was the intended origin for the show. However, Primus having created Cybertron before the Quintessons' arrival was canonized by the TransformersUniverse comic.
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** Yet another fan theory, this one started on Website/StarDestroyerDotNet, stated that the AT-AT was originally meant as an artillery piece to be used under heavy escort rather than the supposed juggernaut of a MilitaryMashupMachine it was portrayed as, but ExecutiveMeddling ensued (think AdolfHitler and the Me-262).

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** Yet another fan theory, this one started on Website/StarDestroyerDotNet, stated that the AT-AT was originally meant as an artillery piece to be used under heavy escort rather than the supposed juggernaut of a MilitaryMashupMachine it was portrayed as, but ExecutiveMeddling ensued (think AdolfHitler UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler and the Me-262).
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* When a mini-series pitted roughly-analogous Marvel and DC characters against each other with the winners determined by fan vote, Wolverine [[WolverinePublicity unsurprisingly]] got more votes than Lobo. Since even comic book artists don't have enough imagination to figure out how Wolverine could actually beat someone who's fought Superman to a standstill (and this was back when Wolverine just healed pretty fast, and wasn't functionally immortal ... but Lobo ''was'') the fight took place entirely [[TakeOurWordForIt offscreen]], which lead to a common fan explanation that Wolverine bribed Lobo to take a dive.

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* When a mini-series pitted roughly-analogous Marvel and DC characters against each other with the winners determined by fan vote, Wolverine [[WolverinePublicity [[PopularityPower unsurprisingly]] got more votes than Lobo. Since even comic book artists don't have enough imagination to figure out how Wolverine could actually beat someone who's fought Superman to a standstill (and this was back when Wolverine just healed pretty fast, and wasn't functionally immortal ... but Lobo ''was'') the fight took place entirely [[TakeOurWordForIt offscreen]], which lead to a common fan explanation that Wolverine bribed Lobo to take a dive.
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* Never has an anime inspired more FanWank and EpilepticTrees than ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' - a practical inevitability when you consider [[MindScrew just how weird the story is]], the [[GainaxEnding sheer number of things that go unexplained]], and the fact that [[TeasingCreator the creators]] [[ShrugOfGod keep invoking post-modernism and refuse to explain any of it!]] Faced with this insanity, fans have proceeded to FanWank all over everything, theorizing that Yui Ikari was the mastermind behind everything, that Unit-00 [[spoiler: kept going berserk]] because Naoko Akagi was the soul inside it, whether or not Rei is [[spoiler: technically related to Shinji]], whether or not Rei [[spoiler: as an Angel/Human hybrid]] can have children, that Misato was [[spoiler: the one who shot Kaji]], and that only children can sync with the Eva because it's fueled by teenage angst to name just a few.

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* Never has an anime inspired more FanWank and EpilepticTrees than ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' - a practical inevitability when you consider [[MindScrew just how weird the story is]], the [[GainaxEnding sheer number of things that go unexplained]], and the fact that [[TeasingCreator the creators]] [[ShrugOfGod keep invoking post-modernism and refuse to explain any of it!]] Faced with this insanity, fans have proceeded to FanWank all over everything, theorizing that Yui Ikari was the mastermind behind everything, that Unit-00 [[spoiler: kept going berserk]] because Naoko Akagi was the soul inside it, whether or not Rei is [[spoiler: technically related to Shinji]], whether or not Rei [[spoiler: as an Angel/Human hybrid]] can have children, that Misato was [[spoiler: the one who shot Kaji]], Kaji]] (though that is one of the rare examples of a fan theory that [[WordOfGod Anno himself]] has outright {{Jossed}}), and that only children can sync with the Eva because it's fueled by teenage angst to name just a few.

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** The Jedi thought "bringing balance to the Force" was a good thing, but it ''actually'' meant that Anakin would kill all but two Jedi, so there'd be the same number of Jedi as Sith. (Never mind that WordOfGod says "bringing balance to the Force" meant destroying the Sith, and Anakin just did it much later than the Jedi expected.)

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** The Jedi thought "bringing balance to the Force" was a good thing, but it ''actually'' meant that Anakin would kill all but two Jedi, so there'd be the same number of Jedi as Sith. (Never Sith (never mind that WordOfGod says "bringing balance to the Force" meant destroying the Sith, and Anakin just did it much later than the Jedi expected.)expected).


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* ''{{Film/Enemy}}'': There are ''many'' theories about "what it all means." Here's the take from ''Slate''.[[http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/03/14/enemy_movie_ending_explained_the_meaning_of_the_jake_gyllenhaal_and_denis.html]].
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** The epic Shiek question: Is Shiek [[WholesomeCrossdresser just Zelda crossdressing]] or [[GenderBender did she actually use magic to turn herself male?]] That one should have been resolved through WordOfGod- Shiek is, officially, canonically, absolutely a WholesomeCrossdresser. But, for various reasons, some fans simply refuse to accept this as canon.

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** The epic Shiek Sheik question: Is Shiek Sheik [[WholesomeCrossdresser just Zelda crossdressing]] or [[GenderBender did she actually use magic to turn herself male?]] That one should have been resolved through WordOfGod- Shiek Sheik is, officially, canonically, absolutely a WholesomeCrossdresser. But, for various reasons, some fans simply refuse to accept this as canon.
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** The podcast DWO WHOcast spent one episode pondering why it was that the Doctor's boots changed into brogue shoes when he regenerated from the Fourth into the Fifth Doctor. [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/161802 At least one fanfiction has been written about it.]]

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** The podcast DWO WHOcast [=DWO WHOcast=] spent one episode pondering why it was that the Doctor's boots changed into brogue shoes when he regenerated from the Fourth into the Fifth Doctor.Doctor (which out-of-universe was just a straight {{Blooper}}). [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/161802 At least one fanfiction has been written about it.]]
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** The podcast DWO WHOcast spent one episode pondering why it was that the Doctor's boots changed into brogue shoes when he regenerated from the Fourth into the Fifth Doctor. [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/161802 At least one fanfiction has been written about it.]]
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** The [[AnachronicOrder Dalek timeline]].

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** The [[AnachronicOrder Dalek timeline]].timeline]], why [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness the Daleks in the first story were so different in personality and power level to later ones]] and why their precursor race is given as "Dals" at first and then (more memorably) as "Kaleds". (Some novels suggest that the early Daleks were a prototypical race of Dalek sent to live in the city on their own as an experiment, who then disowned the inferior beings who created them. Others suggest that the Dals were a race wiped out by the Kaleds, and a Dalish word was used to name the race ("Dal-ek" being Dalish for "God" or "{{Ubermensch}}"), leading to the early Daleks to mistakenly assume they were descended from the Dals.)

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*** Various incidents which presumably took extremely long times but are not factored into the Doctor's age, like the Eighth Doctor being stranded for 600 years in one of the audio dramas, Season 6B, and the life of the War Doctor;

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** The [[AnachronicOrder Dalek timeline]].
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* ''Manga/SailorMoon'' fanwank has an EpilepticTrees theory which suggests that Sailor Pluto is deliberately engineering a timeline where 95% of the Earth's population is killed off in a thousand-year glaciation period [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to produce Crystal Tokyo]]. At ''no point'' does the anime ever say anything along the lines of 95% of the population dying in a disaster. The anime notes that Usagi awoke a frozen world from slumber in the 30th century and ascended, whereas in the manga, there was no disaster at all and the utopia evolved naturally. So the entire theory is FanWank piled upon FanWank.

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* ''Manga/SailorMoon'' ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' fanwank has an EpilepticTrees theory which suggests that Sailor Pluto is deliberately engineering a timeline where 95% of the Earth's population is killed off in a thousand-year glaciation period [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to produce Crystal Tokyo]]. At ''no point'' does the anime [[Anime/SailorMoon anime]] ever say anything along the lines of 95% of the population dying in a disaster. The anime notes that Usagi awoke a frozen world from slumber in the 30th century and ascended, whereas in the manga, [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]], there was no disaster at all and the utopia evolved naturally. So the entire theory is FanWank piled upon FanWank.
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* In the [[SgtFrog Sgt. Frog]] Western fandom, there is a lot of [[FanWank Fan Wank]] debates of whether or not the alien frogs, known as kerons, can have hair or not, some fans going as far as to saying their all wigs and or cannot have hair because they are 'frogs' and label any keron with hair, as a [[MarySue Mary sue]]. This originally started on [[DeviantArt DeviantArt]] and then Tumblr, on a fandom confession blog which has since been deleted.

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* In the [[SgtFrog Sgt. Frog]] Western fandom, there is a lot of [[FanWank Fan Wank]] debates of whether or not the alien frogs, known as kerons, can have hair or not, some fans going as far as to saying their all wigs and or cannot have hair because they are 'frogs' and label any keron with hair, as a [[MarySue Mary sue]]. This originally started on [[DeviantArt DeviantArt]] Website/DeviantArt and then Tumblr, on a fandom confession blog which has since been deleted.
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** Or the true nature of Tom Bombadil - was he a random nature spirit, or the avatar of the world?

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** Or the true nature of Tom Bombadil - was he a random nature spirit, or the avatar of the world?world? [[GodWasMyCopilot One of the Valar or Ilúvatar in disguise?]]
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*** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the First Doctor is ''not'' the elderly, seen-it-all patriarch that the writers of the time obviously intended, but the equivalent of a teenager with NoSocialSkills who feigns age and wisdom so other people will think that he is important (easily supported by Hartnell stories like "The Romans", "The Myth Makers" and "The Space Museum" among other stories) was eventually canonised in "Time Crash", although the Tenth Doctor's assertion that he tried to look old and important 'like you do when you're young' until the ''Fifth'' Doctor seems to skip over the young and childish Fourth Doctor to a jarring extent. Maybe it also explains why the Fourth Doctor visibly aged so much.

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*** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the First Doctor is ''not'' the elderly, seen-it-all SeenItAll patriarch that the writers of the time obviously intended, but the equivalent of a teenager with NoSocialSkills who feigns age and wisdom so other people will think that he is important (easily became a pretty convenient theory around the time the Doctor's backstory, culture and imagined lifespan got a lot more development. (Fortunately, due to the character's ManChild qualities, this interpretation is easily supported by picking bits of Hartnell stories like "The Romans", "The Myth Makers" and Makers", "The Space Museum" Museum", "The Time Meddler"... among other stories) several others, and makes for a very entertaining alternative reading.) It was eventually canonised in "Time Crash", although the Tenth Doctor's assertion that he tried to look old and important 'like you do when you're young' until the ''Fifth'' Doctor seems to skip over the young and childish Fourth Doctor to a jarring extent. Maybe it also explains why the Fourth Doctor visibly aged so much.

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** Trying to deal with the [[FanonDiscontinuity very unpopular]] plot point in the TV Movie that the Doctor is half-human. For instance, one audio drama had the Eighth Doctor mention he tricked the Master with 'a half-broken Chameleon Arch'.



** Much of the EarlyInstalmentWeirdness:

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** In "The Edge of Destruction", Ian uses a stethoscope on the Doctor without noting anything unusual and "The Sensorites", the First Doctor casually mentions his 'heart', singular. But during the Third Doctor's tenure, we discover the Doctor has the BizarreAlienBiology quirk of having two hearts, easily detected by a casual stethoscope use in the Fourth Doctor story "Robot". One novel came up with the explanation that the Doctor only gained a second heart after his first regeneration, although Troughton mentions his 'heart', singular, too. Strangely, the Doctor being AmbiguouslyHuman in Hartnell and Troughton's eras is almost never a target for this sort of thing.
** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the First Doctor is ''not'' the elderly, seen-it-all patriarch that the writers of the time obviously intended, but the equivalent of a teenager with NoSocialSkills who feigns age and wisdom so other people will think that he is important (easily supported by Hartnell stories like "The Romans", "The Myth Makers" and "The Space Museum" among other stories) was eventually canonised in "Time Crash", although the Tenth Doctor's assertion that he tried to look old and important 'like you do when you're young' until the ''Fifth'' Doctor seems to skip over the young and childish Fourth Doctor to a jarring extent. Maybe it also explains why the Fourth Doctor visibly aged so much.

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In "The Edge of Destruction", Ian uses a stethoscope on the Doctor without noting anything unusual and "The Sensorites", the First Doctor casually mentions his 'heart', singular. But during the Third Doctor's tenure, we discover the Doctor has the BizarreAlienBiology quirk of having two hearts, easily detected by a casual stethoscope use in the Fourth Doctor story "Robot". One novel came up with the explanation that the Doctor only gained a second heart after his first regeneration, although Troughton mentions his 'heart', singular, too. Strangely, the Doctor being AmbiguouslyHuman in Hartnell and Troughton's eras is almost never a target for this sort of thing.
** *** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the First Doctor is ''not'' the elderly, seen-it-all patriarch that the writers of the time obviously intended, but the equivalent of a teenager with NoSocialSkills who feigns age and wisdom so other people will think that he is important (easily supported by Hartnell stories like "The Romans", "The Myth Makers" and "The Space Museum" among other stories) was eventually canonised in "Time Crash", although the Tenth Doctor's assertion that he tried to look old and important 'like you do when you're young' until the ''Fifth'' Doctor seems to skip over the young and childish Fourth Doctor to a jarring extent. Maybe it also explains why the Fourth Doctor visibly aged so much.much.
*** Why does WOTAN call the Doctor "[[IAmNotShazam Doctor Who]]"?
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** In "The Edge of Destruction", Ian uses a stethoscope on the Doctor without noting anything unusual and "The Sensorites", the First Doctor casually mentions his 'heart', singular. But during the Third Doctor's tenure, we discover the Doctor has the BizarreAlienBiology quirk of having two hearts, easily detected by a casual stethoscope use in the Fourth Doctor story "Robot". One novel came up with the explanation that the Doctor only gained a second heart after his first regeneration, although Troughton mentions his 'heart', singular, too. Strangely, the Doctor being AmbiguouslyHuman in Hartnell and Troughton's eras is almost never a target for this sort of thing.
** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation that the First Doctor is ''not'' the elderly, seen-it-all patriarch that the writers of the time obviously intended, but the equivalent of a teenager with NoSocialSkills who feigns age and wisdom so other people will think that he is important (easily supported by Hartnell stories like "The Romans", "The Myth Makers" and "The Space Museum" among other stories) was eventually canonised in "Time Crash", although the Tenth Doctor's assertion that he tried to look old and important 'like you do when you're young' until the ''Fifth'' Doctor seems to skip over the young and childish Fourth Doctor to a jarring extent. Maybe it also explains why the Fourth Doctor visibly aged so much.
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** Anything involving the frequent use of YouLookFamiliar - IdenticalGrandson? [[{{Technobabble}} Spacio-genetic multiplicity]]? The ''Series/DoctorWho'' universe just happens to have OnlySixFaces? Some weird phenomenon resulting from the constant time travelling?
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** Trying to deal with the [[FanonDiscontinuity very unpopular]] plot point in the TV Movie that the Doctor is half-human. For instance, one audio drama had the Eighth Doctor mention he tricked the Master with 'a half-broken Chameleon Arch'.
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*** When exactly the time skips can happen when the Doctor has human companions with him most of the time - for instance, how long was the Fourth Doctor travelling alone before and after "The Deadly Assassin", and did he spend 200-or-so years travelling with Romana between "Shada" and "The Leisure Hive" (between which his physical appearance and personality dramatically alters, possibly implying a timeskip), "The Leisure Hive" and "Meglos" (widest open point in continuity), or the ''Fifth'' Doctor and HumanAlien Nyssa between "Time Flight" and "Arc of Infinity"? Or even all of these?

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*** When exactly the time skips can happen when the Doctor has human companions with him most of the time - for instance, how long was the Fourth Doctor travelling alone before and after "The Deadly Assassin", and did Assassin" (which the numbers given suggest is less than a year but provides a really convenient opening), or was it after "The Invasion of Time", or even in the middle of "Robot"? Did he spend 200-or-so years travelling with Romana between "Shada" and "The Leisure Hive" (between which his physical appearance and personality dramatically alters, possibly implying a timeskip), "The Leisure Hive" and "Meglos" (widest open point in continuity), or the ''Fifth'' Doctor and HumanAlien Nyssa between "Time Flight" and "Arc of Infinity"? Or even all of these?
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** How does regeneration work? How can someone regenerate with [[ImprobableHairstyle gelled hair]]? And ''what'' was going on with Romana having a CostumeTestMontage with bodies after regenerating apparently only for vanity?
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** Various inconsistencies regarding the Doctor's age, such as:
*** How the First Doctor could leave Gallifrey at 200ish, still be clearly quite new to time travel in "An Unearthly Child", constantly travelling with humans until his regeneration, after which he gives his age as 450;
*** What the Third Doctor meant when he mentioned being thousands of years old a few times;
*** Why the Doctor gave his age as 953 in his Seventh incarnation but dated himself consistently from 900 in the new series starting from his Ninth incarnation - vanity, or having portions of his own timeline deleted in the Time War;
*** Various incidents which presumably took extremely long times but are not factored into the Doctor's age, like the Eighth Doctor being stranded for 600 years in one of the audio dramas, Season 6B, and the life of the War Doctor;
*** When exactly the time skips can happen when the Doctor has human companions with him most of the time - for instance, how long was the Fourth Doctor travelling alone before and after "The Deadly Assassin", and did he spend 200-or-so years travelling with Romana between "Shada" and "The Leisure Hive" (between which his physical appearance and personality dramatically alters, possibly implying a timeskip), "The Leisure Hive" and "Meglos" (widest open point in continuity), or the ''Fifth'' Doctor and HumanAlien Nyssa between "Time Flight" and "Arc of Infinity"? Or even all of these?
** Who were the faces shown to the Doctor by Morbius in "The Brain of Morbius"? Previous incarnations of the Doctor (as intended by the production team but {{Retcon}}ned basically impossible), or incarnations of Morbius?
** Did "Shada" actually happen, and if so, what version? The Shada audio drama takes the view that it was {{Cosmic Retcon}}ned out by "The Five Doctors" and shoehorns the Eighth Doctor into the story, but the novelisation presents it with the Fourth Doctor as originally intended.
** As a NecessaryWeasel resulting from [[MostWritersAreHuman the actors playing the Doctor all being human mortals]], the ageing of the Doctor's individual faces is inconsistent - the Doctor can take TheSlowPath for 400 years and not age a day in one story, but look visibly older after only five years in another. This has received an attempted HandWave by River Song in "Let's Kill Hitler" where she suggests that Time Lords can control their ageing and even age backwards if they want to (possibly used by the Tenth Doctor to reverse his age between his courtship with Queen Elizabeth in "Day of the Doctor" and his death in the Specials), but there's points where the Doctor is physically ageing, getting only drawbacks from doing so and clearly ''doesn't'' want to...
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* The ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom was very weird about this. Pretty much all forums, the most prominent being Website/BZPower, had or have entire sub-forums dedicated to storyline-discussion and theorizing. On one hand, the amount of fanwank that built up during the toy-line's run is incredible. On the other, most of the fandom is very strict about adhering to canon, creating a sort of vicious circle that only the toughest fanwank survive. This eventually lead to the fans bombarding the official writer with their own ideas to canonize them. [[AscendedFanon Some]] [[PanderingToTheBase made it through]], but after a while, he had to leave the online forums due to LEGO's policies. Even after the toys were canceled, the fanwankery just kept on going. Fans are trying to explain the ludicrous powers through real-life physics (despite the wirter's insistence that they don't apply here), bringing back romance after the NoHuggingNoKissing rule, and declaring fan fictions as canonical alternate universes.
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*** Another common fan wank on the Jusenkyo Curses is adding the secondary effect of actively attempting to induce the transformation rather than simply making it possible. Typically by making the victim a [[KryptoniteIsEverywhere water magnet]] and [[InvokedTrope invoking]] ContrivedCoincidence to wet the victim if they haven't changed for too long. This idea is often used either (or both) to [[DoingInTheWizard do in the]] RuleOfFunny explanation of where the convenient buckets/thrown water comes from in more [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructive works]], or to explain why Ranma [[VoluntaryShapeshifter gaining partial control]] over his curse doesn't simply turn into an effective cure due to the canonical {{Aversion}} of the SecondLawOfGenderBending: even if the water trigger of his curse is removed, and replaced with a voluntary mental triggering or other far more controllable trigger, the curse still forces Ranma to spend some time in his cursed form.

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*** Another common fan wank on the Jusenkyo Curses is adding the secondary effect of actively attempting to induce the transformation rather than simply making it possible. Typically by making the victim a [[KryptoniteIsEverywhere water magnet]] and [[InvokedTrope invoking]] ContrivedCoincidence to wet the victim if they haven't changed for too long. This idea is often used either (or both) to [[DoingInTheWizard do in the]] avoid RuleOfFunny explanation of where the convenient buckets/thrown water comes from in more [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructive works]], or to explain why Ranma [[VoluntaryShapeshifter gaining partial control]] over his curse doesn't simply turn into an effective cure due to the canonical {{Aversion}} of the SecondLawOfGenderBending: even if the water trigger of his curse is removed, and replaced with a voluntary mental triggering or other far more controllable trigger, the curse still forces Ranma to spend some time in his cursed form.
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*** It's heavily implied to be the first; the ring is so corrupting that no-one could willfully destroy it. The main clincher is Gollum - his entire purpose seems to be to fall into Mount Doom by accident. In addition, there's the fact that even the wizards - who are far more powerful than the Eagles - can be corrupted by the Ring.

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