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Another alternate explanation is that in most cases He knows {{the hero}}es [[OmniscientMoralityLicense don't actually need His help]], so He doesn't give it. Another reason is that God might easily become the ultimate BoringInvincibleHero or DeusExMachina, so the writers need to [[DeusExitMachina get rid of him]]. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] if [[RousseauWasRight people are significantly harder to make bad than good]].
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Another alternate explanation is that in most cases He knows {{the hero}}es [[OmniscientMoralityLicense don't actually need His help]], so He doesn't give it. Another reason is that God might easily become the ultimate BoringInvincibleHero InvincibleHero or DeusExMachina, so the writers need to [[DeusExitMachina get rid of him]]. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] if [[RousseauWasRight people are significantly harder to make bad than good]].
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** And in the eighth book, [[spoiler: God is essentially fired and His position is filled by someone who'll actually ''do'' good instead of sitting around admiring how awesome they are.]]
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** And in the eighth seventh book, [[spoiler: God is essentially fired and His position is filled by someone who'll actually ''do'' good instead of sitting around admiring how awesome they are.]]
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* God makes only a few appearances in SouthPark while Satan certainly has far more. In fact, everyone goes to Hell who isn't Mormon.
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* Taken to unfathomable levels in the SouthPark movie (as well as the TV show). Heaven is shown to have only about two thousand residents while Hell has over a ''hundred million''.
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* [[MarriedWithChildren Al Bundy]] meets Lucifer, but cannot disturb God: He's watching "Knott's Landing".
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* Loosely adhered to in {{Brutal Legend}}. Ormagöden, a great fire-beast who flies through the sky, seems to be the nearest thing the setting has to God, and is brought to the earth and killed by the demonic First Ones. His death more-or-less creates the world. Afterwards, there are plenty of demons and other hellish creatures, and the Titans, who were more angelic, have left the world.
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* Loosely adhered to in {{Brutal Legend}}. Ormagöden, a great fire-beast who flies through the sky, seems to be the nearest thing the setting has to God, and is brought to the earth and killed by the demonic First Ones. His death more-or-less creates the world. Afterwards, there are plenty of demons and other hellish creatures, and but the Titans, who were more angelic, have left the world.
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* Loosely adhered to in {{Brutal Legend}}. Ormagöden, a great fire-beast who flies through the sky, seems to be the nearest thing the setting has to God, and is brought to the earth and killed by the First Ones. His death more-or-less creates the world. Afterwards, there are plenty of demons and other hellish creatures, and the Titans, who were more angelic, have left the world.
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* Loosely adhered to in {{Brutal Legend}}. Ormagöden, a great fire-beast who flies through the sky, seems to be the nearest thing the setting has to God, and is brought to the earth and killed by the demonic First Ones. His death more-or-less creates the world. Afterwards, there are plenty of demons and other hellish creatures, and the Titans, who were more angelic, have left the world.
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* Loosely adhered to in {{Brutal Legend}}. Ormagöden, a great fire-beast who flies through the sky, seems to be the nearest thing the setting has to God, and is brought to the earth and killed by the First Ones. His death more-or-less creates the world. Afterwards, there are plenty of demons and other hellish creatures, and the Titans, who were more angelic, have left the world.
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* In another series from Tanith Lee, Tales from the Flat Earth, who seems to love CrapsackWorld tropes in general, this trope turns up frequently. While the series definitely has Gods, they're pretty much NeglectfulPrecursors who created the universe, got bored with it, and now do pretty much nothing but stand around contemplating their own greatness. They've intervened in the world approximately three times, all of which were to deliver smack-downs on anyone who dared to challenge them: the first is when they flooded the earth because people were acquiring too much magical power (mentioned in the second book), the second when a mad king tried to build a tower to heaven and storm it, and the third when they send robot-angels to destroy a new emerging religion. Actually, the entire series is made of this trope, since the primary protagonists of the series are chief demons/personifications of dark forces named the "Lords of Darkness," particularly Azhrarn, the Lord of Evil, who has a BlueandOrangeMorality, and is probably as old as the Gods themselves. Much of the series is devoted to showing how he manipulates humanity for his own pleasure, but is still (arguably) a friendlier force to humanity than the Gods. In the first book, after inadvertently beginning a chain of events leading to the Apocalypse, he enters Heaven to ask the Gods to do something, which they point-blank refuse, after which he proceeds to save the world in an interesting subversion of the trope.
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* In ''OnAPaleHorse,'' by PiersAnthony, the devil is quite active in the world and actively advertises (with billboards!) for Hell. God never intervenes directly, because it would be breaking His own rules (Satan has no such scruples).
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* In ''OnAPaleHorse,'' ''IncarnationsOfImmortality'' by PiersAnthony, the devil is quite active in the world and actively advertises (with billboards!) for Hell. God never intervenes directly, because it would be breaking His own rules (Satan has no such scruples).
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* In Robert E. Howard's ''SolomonKane'' novels the protagonist is a Christian Puritan who comes across various kinds of supernatural phenomena in his travels, both good and evil, but never anything that would confirm the existence of his God, and this causes him a great deal of internal turmoil. The recent movie adaptation however has its plot revolve entirely around a conflict between Heaven and Hell by earthly proxies.
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* In Robert E. Howard's ''SolomonKane'' novels the protagonist is a Christian Puritan who comes across various kinds of supernatural phenomena in his travels, both good and evil, but never anything that would confirm the existence of his God, and this causes him a great deal of internal turmoil. The recent movie adaptation however has its plot revolve entirely around a conflict between Heaven and Hell by earthly proxies.
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* In ''OnAPaleHorse,'' by PiersAnthony, the devil is quite active in the world and actively advertises (with billboards!) for Hell. God never intervenes directly, because it would be breaking His own rules (Satan has no such scruples).
* In ''OnAPaleHorse,'' by PiersAnthony, the devil is quite active in the world and actively advertises (with billboards!) for Hell. God never intervenes directly, because it would be breaking His own rules (Satan has no such scruples).
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* Inverted in the ''{{Pokemon}}'' series games and anime where there is a counterpart for God called Arceus, but there is no counterpart for the Devil. Played straight in the ''PokemonMysteryDungeon'' games however, where Arceus is nowhere to be seen, and that only one Pokemon, [[spoiler: _______]] is the true evil one.
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** Regardless of whether or not God (the Maker) exists, the religion's particular belief is that the Maker turned his back on humanity, first for daring to try to reach his city deep within the Fade ([[NiceJobBreakingItHero which turned the Golden City into the Black City]], [[CrapsackWorld unleashed the Archdemons and the Darkspawn]], [[{{Gotterdamerung}} and caused the collapse of the powerful Tevinter Empire]]), and then for subsequently murdering his bride (the prophet Andraste, who had quite literally ''just'' convinced the Maker that people were worth saving when she was ''burned at the stake''). Suffice to say, if there ''is'' a God, humans really went out of their way to piss him off. The church believes that spreading the Chant and defeating the Archdemons will allow humans to redeem themselves in the Maker's eyes.
** It's also worth noting that the dwarves and the elves don't necessarily believe in the Chantry's teachings, preferring to believe in particularly noteworthy ancestors (Paragons) and the old gods (mostly of nature), for dwarves and elves respectively. There's no evidence for the old gods, but the Paragons really did exist.
** It's also worth noting that the dwarves and the elves don't necessarily believe in the Chantry's teachings, preferring to believe in particularly noteworthy ancestors (Paragons) and the old gods (mostly of nature), for dwarves and elves respectively. There's no evidence for the old gods, but the Paragons really did exist.
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* In [[DragonAge Dragon Age: Origins]] a rage demon the PC fights with the help of a [[ChurchMilitant templar]] laughs at the templar's declarations of faith, taunting him that the god he worships and the heaven he hopes for simply don't exist, but that there are demons. He then attacks the party. (There is never any solid indication that the god the templars worship really exists. Their church was started by a prophet who was said to have divine powers, but there is a competing theory that she was simply an incredibly powerful mage.)
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* In [[DragonAge Dragon Age: Origins]] a rage demon the PC fights with the help of a [[ChurchMilitant templar]] laughs at the templar's declarations of faith, taunting him that the god he worships and the heaven he hopes for simply don't exist, but that there are demons. He then attacks the party. (There is never any solid indication that the god the templars worship really exists. Their church was started by a prophet who was said to have divine powers, but there is a competing theory that she was simply an incredibly powerful mage.)
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** It has likewise been speculated that the Maker could be an unusually powerful benign Fade spirit (they exist, but since they don't try to possess people by force, they are rarely seen, unlike demons) - or a Pride Demon.
** It has likewise been speculated that the Maker could be an unusually powerful benign Fade spirit (they exist, but since they don't try to possess people by force, they are rarely seen, unlike demons) - or a Pride Demon.
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*** Athough he ''does'' often appear to enjoy himself ''immensely'' when seen in in human form...
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*** Athough he ''does'' often appear to enjoy himself ''immensely'' when seen in in human form...
*** That's something of a case of {{Flanderization}} by later writers. In Lovecraft's own stories he has two appearances in human form, and one in near-human. In first of those he isn't yet really a deity, but simply a human scientist who has become essentially an AnthropomorphicPersonification of the immutable cosmic laws (it's a MindScrew), and is simply driven rather than malevolent or cruel, as far as the reader can tell. He receives human sacrifices in person as the Black Man, but he never speaks in that story and gives no impression of sadism for its own sake - it's just a function that he is performing. His depiction as a creatively cruel monster trickster is mostly based on his appearance in ''The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath'', where he once again is performing a role as the protector of the Great Ones - though while clearly holding them in contempt. But even as he torments Carter with false hope, he seems to deem him a WorthyOpponent, facing him directly instead of just letting his masters squash him like a bug, as had happened to everyone else who tried to see Earth's gods.
*** That's something of a case of {{Flanderization}} by later writers. In Lovecraft's own stories he has two appearances in human form, and one in near-human. In first of those he isn't yet really a deity, but simply a human scientist who has become essentially an AnthropomorphicPersonification of the immutable cosmic laws (it's a MindScrew), and is simply driven rather than malevolent or cruel, as far as the reader can tell. He receives human sacrifices in person as the Black Man, but he never speaks in that story and gives no impression of sadism for its own sake - it's just a function that he is performing. His depiction as a creatively cruel monster trickster is mostly based on his appearance in ''The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath'', where he once again is performing a role as the protector of the Great Ones - though while clearly holding them in contempt. But even as he torments Carter with false hope, he seems to deem him a WorthyOpponent, facing him directly instead of just letting his masters squash him like a bug, as had happened to everyone else who tried to see Earth's gods.
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* {{The Icemark Chronicles}}by Stuart Hill has a being called 'Cronus'
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* In Robert E. Howard's ''SolomonKane'' novels the protagonist is a Christian Puritan who comes across various kinds of supernatural phenomena in his travels, both good and evil, but never anything that would confirm the existence of his God, and this causes him a great deal of internal turmoil. The recent movie adaptation however has its plot revolve entirely around a conflict between Heaven and Hell by earthly proxies.
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* In the PowerRangers Universe, there seem to be an awful lot of monstrous evil elder beings that exist to cause pain and destruction. But the heroic elder beings tend to be light on the ground. This doesn't seem to worry the Rangers most years, who usually save the day without ''needing'' divine intervention, but during season 10, the Rangers ''would'' have died on multiple occasions had a god (Animus, the diety of the wild zords) not directly intervened to save them.
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** The Way of Kings has [[spoiler: several shards (i.e. specialized gods) involved at some point, but by the end of the book, it is quite clear that the ones most invested in saving Roshar from destruction are dead, while the most definitely evil shard who killed them is apparently returning to finish the job. Or something; it's hard to say. Still, Ouch.]]
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** The Way of Kings TheStormlightArchive has [[spoiler: several shards (i.e. specialized gods) involved at some point, but by the end of the first book, it is quite clear that the ones one most definitely invested in saving Roshar from destruction are is dead, while the most definitely evil shard who killed them him is apparently returning to finish the job. Or something; it's hard to say. Still, Ouch.]] ]]
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* A [[{{MysteryScienceTheater3000}}MST3K]] blogger pointed this out in his review of the MST3K film ''The Touch of Satan''.
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* A [[{{MysteryScienceTheater3000}}MST3K]] blogger pointed this out in his review of the [[{MysteryScienceTheater3000}}MST3K]] film ''The Touch of Satan''.
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* A [[{{MysteryScienceTheater3000}}MST3K]] blogger pointed this out in his review of the [[{MysteryScienceTheater3000}}MST3K]] MST3K film ''The Touch of Satan''.
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** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
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* Mike Nelson pointed this out in his book ''Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese'' in the review of ''EventHorizon''.
* Mike Nelson pointed this out in his book ''Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese'' in the review of ''EventHorizon''.
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* TheExcorcist film series. The power of God/Christ does seem to be more powerful than the power of the Devil but God seems absent for the most part.
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* TheExcorcist TheExorcist film series. The power of God/Christ does seem to be more powerful than the power of the Devil but God seems absent for the most part.
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* Even present in ''GhostBusters'' and its related media; while there's plenty of evil gods and lesser deities (like Gozer) running around, there's no indication of any good gods opposing them, so the Busters have to make do with science.
** Well, Marduk appeared in one episode of the cartoon, and was a depicted as a fairly benevolent "god of the city". He still needed the Ghostbusters' help to defeat his ancient enemy Tiamat, though.
** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
* In ''Hellborn:Asylum of the Damned'', there is a Devil that plays an active part in damning the lives and souls of human beings, even the good ones. However, as stated by one of the characters in the film itself, "God dosen't take a look around here."
* While the ''book'' of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' averts this trope (see below), this is pretty much the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. Its possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent maia]] is), or the existence of the [[CouncilofAngels Valar]] or [[{{God}} Eru]], or know about the downfall or [[AndManGrewProud Numenor]]. ''Something'' [[MysteriousWays subtly]] influences everyone's fate and sends [[DeusExMachina Gandalf back from the dead]], but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to [[{{Satan}} Sauron]] as to qualify for this trope.
** Then again, Sauron is a being who has somehow seized control of armies of orcs and a mighty wizard before even getting an eye. By the end of the movie the most he has is a symbolic mouth, and that's only in the EE.
* Even present in ''GhostBusters'' and its related media; while there's plenty of evil gods and lesser deities (like Gozer) running around, there's no indication of any good gods opposing them, so the Busters have to make do with science.
** Well, Marduk appeared in one episode of the cartoon, and was a depicted as a fairly benevolent "god of the city". He still needed the Ghostbusters' help to defeat his ancient enemy Tiamat, though.
** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
* In ''Hellborn:Asylum of the Damned'', there is a Devil that plays an active part in damning the lives and souls of human beings, even the good ones. However, as stated by one of the characters in the film itself, "God dosen't take a look around here."
* While the ''book'' of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' averts this trope (see below), this is pretty much the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. Its possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent maia]] is), or the existence of the [[CouncilofAngels Valar]] or [[{{God}} Eru]], or know about the downfall or [[AndManGrewProud Numenor]]. ''Something'' [[MysteriousWays subtly]] influences everyone's fate and sends [[DeusExMachina Gandalf back from the dead]], but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to [[{{Satan}} Sauron]] as to qualify for this trope.
** Then again, Sauron is a being who has somehow seized control of armies of orcs and a mighty wizard before even getting an eye. By the end of the movie the most he has is a symbolic mouth, and that's only in the EE.
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* Even present in ''GhostBusters'' and its related media; while there's plenty of evil gods and lesser deities (like Gozer) running around, there's no indication of any good gods opposing them, so the Busters have to make do with science.
** Well, Marduk appeared in one episode of the cartoon, and was a depicted as a fairly benevolent "god of the city". He still needed the Ghostbusters' help to defeat his ancient enemy Tiamat, though.
** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
* In ''Hellborn:Asylum of the Damned'', there is a Devil that plays an active part in damning the lives and souls of human beings, even the good ones. However, as stated by one of the characters in the film itself, "God dosen't take a look around here."
* While the ''book'' of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' averts this trope (see below), this is pretty much the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. Its possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent maia]] is), or the existence of the [[CouncilofAngels Valar]] or [[{{God}} Eru]], or know about the downfall or [[AndManGrewProud Numenor]]. ''Something'' [[MysteriousWays subtly]] influences everyone's fate and sends [[DeusExMachina Gandalf back from the dead]], but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to [[{{Satan}} Sauron]] as to qualify for this trope.
** Then again, Sauron is a being who has somehow seized control of armies of orcs and a mighty wizard before even getting an eye. By the end of the movie the most he has is a symbolic mouth, and that's only in the EE.
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* Even present in ''GhostBusters'' and its related media; while there's plenty of evil gods and lesser deities (like Gozer) running around, there's no indication of any good gods opposing them, so the Busters have to make do with science.
** Well, Marduk appeared in one episode of the cartoon, and was a depicted as a fairly benevolent "god of the city". He still needed the Ghostbusters' help to defeat his ancient enemy Tiamat, though.
** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
* In ''Hellborn:Asylum of the Damned'', there is a Devil that plays an active part in damning the lives and souls of human beings, even the good ones. However, as stated by one of the characters in the film itself, "God dosen't take a look around here."
* While the ''book'' of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' averts this trope (see below), this is pretty much the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. Its possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent maia]] is), or the existence of the [[CouncilofAngels Valar]] or [[{{God}} Eru]], or know about the downfall or [[AndManGrewProud Numenor]]. ''Something'' [[MysteriousWays subtly]] influences everyone's fate and sends [[DeusExMachina Gandalf back from the dead]], but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to [[{{Satan}} Sauron]] as to qualify for this trope.
** Then again, Sauron is a being who has somehow seized control of armies of orcs and a mighty wizard before even getting an eye. By the end of the movie the most he has is a symbolic mouth, and that's only in the EE.
* TheExcorcist film series. The power of God/Christ does seem to be more powerful than the power of the Devil but God seems absent for the most part.
* Even present in ''GhostBusters'' and its related media; while there's plenty of evil gods and lesser deities (like Gozer) running around, there's no indication of any good gods opposing them, so the Busters have to make do with science.
** Well, Marduk appeared in one episode of the cartoon, and was a depicted as a fairly benevolent "god of the city". He still needed the Ghostbusters' help to defeat his ancient enemy Tiamat, though.
** Also, in the original film there are hints by some characters that Gozer is the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse, and not just it's own brand of doom.
* In ''Hellborn:Asylum of the Damned'', there is a Devil that plays an active part in damning the lives and souls of human beings, even the good ones. However, as stated by one of the characters in the film itself, "God dosen't take a look around here."
* While the ''book'' of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' averts this trope (see below), this is pretty much the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. Its possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent maia]] is), or the existence of the [[CouncilofAngels Valar]] or [[{{God}} Eru]], or know about the downfall or [[AndManGrewProud Numenor]]. ''Something'' [[MysteriousWays subtly]] influences everyone's fate and sends [[DeusExMachina Gandalf back from the dead]], but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to [[{{Satan}} Sauron]] as to qualify for this trope.
** Then again, Sauron is a being who has somehow seized control of armies of orcs and a mighty wizard before even getting an eye. By the end of the movie the most he has is a symbolic mouth, and that's only in the EE.
* TheExcorcist film series. The power of God/Christ does seem to be more powerful than the power of the Devil but God seems absent for the most part.
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* TomWaits' "Heartattack and Vine" gives an inversion: "There ain't no Devil, there's just God when he's drunk."
** And RobinWilliams follows up: "If God drinks, he could get stoned. Look at a duck-billed platypus-- I think you think he might."
* TomWaits' "Heartattack and Vine" gives an inversion: "There ain't no Devil, there's just God when he's drunk."
** And RobinWilliams follows up: "If God drinks, he could get stoned. Look at a duck-billed platypus-- I think you think he might."
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** And RobinWilliams follows up: "If God drinks, he could get stoned. Look at a duck-billed platypus-- I think you think he might."
* TomWaits' "Heartattack and Vine" gives an inversion: "There ain't no Devil, there's just God when he's drunk."
** And RobinWilliams follows up: "If God drinks, he could get stoned. Look at a duck-billed platypus-- I think you think he might."
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*** In Morrowind, it was stated that the Daedra are eternal and can never be destroyed. The Aedra (the nicer gods) on the other hand are terribly powerful and ageless but can perish and indeed some of their number have been slain in the past. It therefore makes sense that they would seldom intervene in worldly affairs, as it risks their existence whereas the Daedra can happily engage in whatever plots they wish knowing that any defeat will only be temporary. This seems a little more likely than the point of view espoused in Oblivion, but its hard to tell either way from in-universe sources.
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*** That is something the Valar probably did themselves. When Saruman was killed, his spirit looked west (towards the home of the Valar) and was dissipated by a blast of wind, the element of Manwe. The Elves (and indeed Frodo, at one point) also pray to the Valar, not to Eru.
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* In Marvel Comics, Satan was a recurring character in the Son of Satan series. God, Jesus or the Angels never appeared or interfered. Later, it was {{RetCon}}ned that Satan was being impersonated by demons such as Mephisto, and that the true Devil had NEVER appeared in a Marvel story [[prottip:*:It has since been revealed that there are several Netherrealms claiming to be Hell, and that its rulers ''inspired'' legends of the Devil rather than directly being him, and the only souls they lay claim to are those who made bargains with them.]]. Recently in Ghost Rider Angel;s and even heaven have shown up.
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* In Marvel Comics, Satan was a recurring character in the Son of Satan series. God, Jesus or the Angels never appeared or interfered. Later, it was {{RetCon}}ned that Satan was being impersonated by demons such as Mephisto, and that the true Devil had NEVER appeared in a Marvel story [[prottip:*:It [[hottip:*:It has since been revealed that there are several Netherrealms claiming to be Hell, and that its rulers ''inspired'' legends of the Devil rather than directly being him, and the only souls they lay claim to are those who made bargains with them.]]. Recently in Ghost Rider Angel;s and even heaven have shown up.
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** Gandalf himself is proof of the creator, since he's more or less an Angel.
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** Gandalf himself is proof of the creator, since he's more or less an Angel. And God gives him a new, stronger body when the Balrog kills the one he's wearing at the moment.
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* In {{kuroshitsuji}} we have lawful evil devils,shinigamis are either lawful neutral or chaotic evil but there is no benevolent supernatural being. In the anime version the {{Big Bad}} is a fallen angel, which implies there is good angels, but they never show up and a devil saves the day.
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* In {{kuroshitsuji}} {{Kuroshitsuji}} we have lawful evil devils,shinigamis are either lawful neutral or chaotic evil but there is no benevolent supernatural being. In the anime version the {{Big Bad}} is a fallen angel, which implies there is good angels, but they never show up and a devil saves the day.
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** There is God, or at lest the Ideal of God but it's only (so far) seem in an semi-canon chapter that was cut for spoilering the plot. However, it's pretty much both God [[GodIsEvil AND the devil]].
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** There is God, or at lest least the Ideal of God but it's only (so far) seem in an semi-canon chapter that was cut for spoilering the plot. However, it's pretty much both God [[GodIsEvil AND the devil]].
