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* ''Literature/Area51'': A number of artifacts from religious and mythical lore get shown to be alien technology. The effect of this upon religious belief is pondered, since this includes many important ones like the Ark of the Covenant and Holy Grail, with the question raised of whether this disproves Judaism or Christianity. In one case, a fanatical Orthodox Jew uses a {{suicide attack}} by crashing the helicopter he's flying on the Ark as it wasn't made by God.
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* ''Film/TheBounty'' from 1985 is a more historically accurate recounting of the mutiny on the ''Bounty'' than previous movie versions, both titled ''Mutiny on the Bounty'' and from [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty 1935]] and [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty1962 1962]]. These older movies were ultimately based on [[Literature/TheBountyTrilogy somewhat fictionalized novels]] and fictionalized the story further for the screen, which all contributed to the popular image of the events. In the 1985 movie however, instead of depicting Captain William Bligh as a corrupt ogreish tyrant, he is well-meaning but with poor "people skills" and probably more lenient than he needed to be in enforcing discipline when it mattered most. The mutineers' leader, the first mate Fletcher Christian, is less of a stock heroic rebellious authority figure and more like an unstable powder keg of a man who blows up screaming, stunning even his fellow mutineers speechless.

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* ''Film/TheBounty'' from 1985 1984 is a more historically accurate recounting of the mutiny on the ''Bounty'' than previous movie versions, both titled ''Mutiny on the Bounty'' and from [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty 1935]] and [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty1962 1962]]. These older movies were ultimately based on [[Literature/TheBountyTrilogy somewhat fictionalized novels]] and fictionalized the story further for the screen, which all contributed to the popular image of the events. In the 1985 1984 movie however, instead of depicting Captain William Bligh as a corrupt ogreish tyrant, he is well-meaning but with poor "people skills" and probably more lenient than he needed to be in enforcing discipline when it mattered most. The mutineers' leader, the first mate Fletcher Christian, is less of a stock heroic rebellious authority figure and more like an unstable powder keg of a man who blows up screaming, stunning even his fellow mutineers speechless.
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* ''Film/TheBounty'' from 1985 is a more historically accurate recounting of the mutiny on the ''Bounty'' than previous movie versions, both titled ''Mutiny on the Bounty'' and from [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty 1935]] and [[Film/MutinyOnTheBounty1962 1962]]. These older movies were ultimately based on [[Literature/TheBountyTrilogy somewhat fictionalized novels]] and fictionalized the story further for the screen, which all contributed to the popular image of the events. In the 1985 movie however, instead of depicting Captain William Bligh as a corrupt ogreish tyrant, he is well-meaning but with poor "people skills" and probably more lenient than he needed to be in enforcing discipline when it mattered most. The mutineers' leader, the first mate Fletcher Christian, is less of a stock heroic rebellious authority figure and more like an unstable powder keg of a man who blows up screaming, stunning even his fellow mutineers speechless.
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* ''Film/TheAlamo2004'' dips into this approach quite possibly in response to previous depictions of the historical events like ''Film/TheAlamo1960'', ''The Last Command'' and ''Series/DavyCrockett1954'', most notably with the figure of [[DoNotCallMePaul David]] Crockett, exploring what it means to be a LivingLegend.

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* ''Film/TheAlamo2004'' dips into this approach quite possibly in response to previous depictions of the historical events like ''Film/TheAlamo1960'', ''The Last Command'' and ''Series/DavyCrockett1954'', most notably with the figure of [[DoNotCallMePaul [[InsistentTerminology David]] Crockett, exploring what it means to be a LivingLegend.
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* ''Film/TheAlamo2004'' dips into this approach quite possibly in response to previous depictions of the historical events like ''Film/TheAlamo1960'', ''The Last Command'' and ''Series/DavyCrockett1954'', most notably with the figure of [[DoNotCallMePaul David]] Crockett, exploring what it means to be a LivingLegend.
** Crockett's death in American popular imagination has him going down fighting (explosively in the first two other movies), but this movie uses the alternate possibility that he was captured alive and executed after the battle. It's very much debated which version is more plausible based on conflicting sources. But he is still DefiantToTheEnd.
** The deaths of the other Alamo leaders are also less romantic: Jim Bowie still goes down fighting on his sickbed, shooting his pistols before he dies, but he's killed before he can reach his namesake knife in contrast to other depictions which have him getting a last stab or two in. William Travis is randomly dropped by a headshot early in the battle instead of going down late in the battle surrounded on all sides, like how Crockett is usually depicted.
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* ''Film/GoyoAngBatangHeneral'' (''Goyo the Boy General'') depicts the death of Filipino general Gregorio del Pilar rather anticlimactically compared to how it's been taught to schoolchildren for generations and how previous local movies portrayed him. The more romantic image of his death has him being shot on horseback, saber upraised and charging at the foe against hopeless odds (and a 1990s movie version even had him as pretty much the last man standing on his side), which ultimately comes from a newspaperman's account, and this is judged by some contemporary local historians as myth-making in light of other sources. The film instead follows these other sources, eyewitness accounts from his own soldiers who said he was sniped rather suddenly and while standing on the ground during a lull in the battle, and this leads to a panicked retreat by his men. Plus in general, the film goes for a WartsAndAll approach and avoids putting him on a pedestal, unlike the "textbook" approach and romanticizing tendency of many Filipino historical biopics.


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* The supernatural is quite real in ''WesternAnimation/Castlevania2017'', but it has an explanation for crosses being effective against vampires pretty much akin to ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'' above, as geometric shapes naturally messing with their differently-evolved brains. This is when the show introduces its version of the throwing cross subweapon from the games.

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* ''Film/TheMessengerTheStoryOfJoanOfArc''. This is a borderline case, however, as more than one interpretation is offered for the Visions, and indeed implied [[{{Satan}} for 'the Conscience']]. Of course, since Joan of Arc was definitely a real person, ''The Messenger'' might also be accused of going the opposite route and adding fantastic elements (though this gets into a tricky theological debate).



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* The legend of Queen Boudicea having spikes on the hubcaps of her chariots - which modern archaeologists and historians are absolutely sure never happened - turns out to be a Victorian invention, based on the Irish legend of the chariot of the hero Cu Chulain being festooned with hooks and rending spikes on all its outer surfaces, so as to make life difficult for opponents. Romantic Victorian thought reasoned that 'all'' Celtic chariots followed this model.
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* ''Film/TheMessengerTheStoryOfJoanOfArc''. This is a borderline case, however, as more than one interpretation is offered for the Visions, and indeed implied [[{{Satan}} for 'the Conscience']]. Of course, since Joan of Arc was definitely a real person, ''The Messenger'' might also be accused of going the opposite route and adding fantastic elements (though this gets into a tricky theological debate).



* ''Series/{{Rome}}'' does not have Julius Caesar say his famous LastWords "EtTuBrute" or "You too, Brutus?" right before he dies, like how CommonKnowledge and pop culture has it (thanks to Shakespeare's play). This is following the ancient sources like Suetonius and Plutarch who assert that he said nothing, though Suetonius also says that it was ''rumored'' that he said "you too, my child/son" in Greek (''Kai su, teknon'') to Brutus. The show has Caesar convey the sentiment to Brutus wordlessly, through his facial expressions. The show also pointedly does not have Caesar saying one of his other famous quotes, "Alea iacta est" or "The die is cast" before crossing the Rubicon with his army. It just happens, with the common soldier viewpoint character Titus Pullo realizing the import of it - that the point of no return has been passed and this means civil war. In both cases it's left for the viewer to imply that the famous phrases were cooked up later.




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* The legend of Queen Boudicea having spikes on the hubcaps of her chariots - which modern archaeologists and historians are absolutely sure never happened - turns out to be a Victorian invention, based on the Irish legend of the chariot of the hero Cu Chulain being festooned with hooks and rending spikes on all its outer surfaces, so as to make life difficult for opponents. Romantic Victorian thought reasoned that 'all'' Celtic chariots followed this model.
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* ''Series/{{Rome}}'' does not have Julius Caesar say his famous LastWords "EtTuBrute" or "You too, Brutus?" right before he dies, like how CommonKnowledge and pop culture has it (thanks to Shakespeare's play). This is following the ancient sources like Suetonius and Plutarch who assert that he said nothing, though Suetonius also says that it was ''rumored'' that he said "you too, my child/son" in Greek (''Kai su, teknon'') to Brutus. The show has Caesar convey the sentiment to Brutus wordlessly, through his facial expressions. The show also pointedly does not have Caesar saying one of his other famous quotes, "Alea iacta est" or "The die is cast" before crossing the Rubicon with his army. It just happens, with the common soldier viewpoint character Titus Pullo realizing the import of it - that the point of no return has been passed and this means civil war. In both cases it's left for the viewer to imply that the famous phrases were cooked up later.
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* The legend of Queen Boudicea having spikes on the hubcaps of her chariots - which archaeologists and historians are absolutely sure never happened - turns out to be a Victorian invention, based on the Irish legend of the chariot of the hero Cu Chulain being festooned with hooks and rending spikes on all its outer surfaces, so as to make life difficult for opponents. Romantic Victorian thought reasoned that 'all'' Celtic chariots followed this model.


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* The legend of Queen Boudicea having spikes on the hubcaps of her chariots - which modern archaeologists and historians are absolutely sure never happened - turns out to be a Victorian invention, based on the Irish legend of the chariot of the hero Cu Chulain being festooned with hooks and rending spikes on all its outer surfaces, so as to make life difficult for opponents. Romantic Victorian thought reasoned that 'all'' Celtic chariots followed this model.
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* ''Series/{{Rome}}'' does not have Julius Caesar say his famous LastWords "EtTuBrute" or "You too, Brutus?" right before he dies, like how CommonKnowledge and pop culture has it (thanks to Shakespeare's play). This is following the ancient sources like Suetonius and Plutarch who assert that he said nothing, though Suetonius also says that it was ''rumored'' that he said "you too, my child/son" in Greek (''Kai su, teknon'') to Brutus. The show has Caesar convey the sentiment to Brutus wordlessly, through his facial expressions. The show also pointedly does not have Caesar saying one of his other famous quotes, "Alea iacta est" or "The die is cast" before crossing the Rubicon with his army. It just happens, with the common soldier viewpoint character Titus Pullo realizing the import of it - that the point of no return has been passed and this means civil war. In both cases it's left for the viewer to imply that the famous phrases were cooked up later.
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* So many books and documentaries have tried to find an all-encompassing scientific explanation for the story of [[Literature/BookOfExodus Exodus]] that it's hard to trace it down to the first one that brought up the idea. Occurrences like the parting of the Red Sea and the red river are usually attributed to a natural disaster.
* Other biblical stories like the Great Flood in [[Literature/BookOfGenesis Genesis]] get similar treatment. It's often pointed out that other religions and cultures have their versions of flood myths, sometimes with human survivors repopulating the Earth afterwards, most notoriously as found in Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh which is older than the composition of Genesis. Explanations include localized floods instead of a truly worldwide one, and the loss of land and rise of sea levels at the end of the Ice Age.
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* So many books and documentaries tried to find an all-encompassing scientific explanation for the story of [[Literature/BookOfExodus Exodus]] that it's hard to trace it down to the first one that brought up the idea. Occurrences like the parting of the Red Sea and the red river are usually attributed to a natural disaster. Other biblical stories like the Flood get similar treatment.
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* Joan Wolf's ''The Road to Avalon'' has no magical elements except for Arthur and Morgan (portrayed as Arthur's friend) sharing a telepathic link. Merlin is a Roman-trained engineer.

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* Joan Wolf's ''The Road to Avalon'' ''Literature/TheRoadToAvalon'' has no magical elements except for Arthur and Morgan (portrayed as Arthur's friend) lover) sharing a telepathic link. Merlin is a Roman-trained engineer.
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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald brutish regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws. Other details of the Gilgamesh legends are also briefly presented mundanely: instead of Gilgamesh spurning the advances of the goddess Ishtar, he does the unthinkable by refusing to do the annual ritual fertility sex rites with the ''priestess'' of the goddess Inanna, and the monsters he defeats are just foreign tribes he raids and conquers for booty and slaves.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald brutish regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws. Other details of the Gilgamesh legends are also briefly presented mundanely: Then instead of Gilgamesh spurning the advances of the goddess Ishtar, he does the unthinkable by refusing to do the annual ritual fertility sex rites with the ''priestess'' of the goddess Inanna, Inanna (Ishtar's precursor), and the monsters he defeats are just foreign tribes he raids and conquers for booty and slaves.
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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald brutish regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald brutish regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws. Other details of the Gilgamesh legends are also briefly presented mundanely: instead of Gilgamesh spurning the advances of the goddess Ishtar, he does the unthinkable by refusing to do the annual ritual fertility sex rites with the ''priestess'' of the goddess Inanna, and the monsters he defeats are just foreign tribes he raids and conquers for booty and slaves.
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** It's pointed out that secular historians think MosesInTheBulrushes is a myth, as other figures have had similar foundling origin stories, so the comic supposes that Moses was a half-Egyptian priest or noble who developed a neurotic streak due to his contrasting backgrounds, though at the same time it is acknowledged that unwanted babies were often exposed, so he could have been an exposed child who was lucky to be adopted. He's drawn as bald or shaved and darker-skinned like the Egyptians and unlike regular Hebrews. He has a temper due to his neuroses and his murder of the Egyptian overseer is his repressed rage snapping. He's influenced by the Pharaoh Akhenaten who promoted worship of the Sun Aten as the one and only god. The plagues of Egypt are simply natural disasters the comic doesn't dwell on much that Moses attributes to the Hebrew God, and the parting of the Red Sea is just said to be the Hebrews escaping after the pursuing Egyptian chariots got stuck in marshy ground, as "Red Sea" is argued to be a mistranslation of "Reed Sea".

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** It's pointed out that secular historians think MosesInTheBulrushes is a myth, as other figures have had similar foundling origin stories, so the comic supposes that Moses was a half-Egyptian priest or noble who developed a neurotic streak due to his contrasting backgrounds, though at the same time it is acknowledged that unwanted babies were often exposed, so he could have been an exposed child who was lucky to be adopted. He's drawn as bald or shaved and darker-skinned like the Egyptians and unlike regular Hebrews. He has a temper due to his neuroses and his murder of the Egyptian overseer is his repressed rage snapping. He's influenced by the Pharaoh Akhenaten who promoted worship of the Sun Aten as the one and only god. The plagues of Egypt are simply natural disasters the comic doesn't dwell on much that Moses attributes to the Hebrew God, and the parting of the Red Sea is just said to be the Hebrews escaping after the pursuing Egyptian chariots got stuck in marshy ground, as "Red Sea" is argued to be a mistranslation of "Reed Sea".Sea" and the Golden Calf is Apis.
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** It's pointed out that secular historians think MosesInTheBulrushes is a myth, as other figures have had similar foundling origin stories, so the comic supposes that Moses was a half-Egyptian priest or noble who developed a neurotic streak due to his contrasting backgrounds. He's drawn as bald or shaved and darker-skinned like the Egyptians and unlike regular Hebrews. He has a temper due to his neuroses and his murder of the Egyptian overseer is his repressed rage snapping. He's influenced by the Pharaoh Akhenaten who promoted worship of the Sun Aten as the one and only god. The plagues of Egypt are simply natural disasters the comic doesn't dwell on much that Moses attributes to the Hebrew God, and the parting of the Red Sea is just said to be the Hebrews escaping after the pursuing Egyptian chariots got stuck in marshy ground, as "Red Sea" is argued to be a mistranslation of "Reed Sea".

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** It's pointed out that secular historians think MosesInTheBulrushes is a myth, as other figures have had similar foundling origin stories, so the comic supposes that Moses was a half-Egyptian priest or noble who developed a neurotic streak due to his contrasting backgrounds.backgrounds, though at the same time it is acknowledged that unwanted babies were often exposed, so he could have been an exposed child who was lucky to be adopted. He's drawn as bald or shaved and darker-skinned like the Egyptians and unlike regular Hebrews. He has a temper due to his neuroses and his murder of the Egyptian overseer is his repressed rage snapping. He's influenced by the Pharaoh Akhenaten who promoted worship of the Sun Aten as the one and only god. The plagues of Egypt are simply natural disasters the comic doesn't dwell on much that Moses attributes to the Hebrew God, and the parting of the Red Sea is just said to be the Hebrews escaping after the pursuing Egyptian chariots got stuck in marshy ground, as "Red Sea" is argued to be a mistranslation of "Reed Sea".
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* Stephen R. Lawhead's ''Pendragon Cycle'' series contains virtually no explicit magic, though Merlin is descended from Atlanteans (who are treated like Tolkien's Elves).

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* Stephen R. Lawhead's ''Pendragon Cycle'' Creator/StephenRLawhead's ''Literature/ThePendragonCycle'' series contains virtually no explicit magic, though Merlin is descended from Atlanteans (who are treated like Tolkien's Elves).
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* The first album of ''ComicBook/{{Lilith}}'' has the titular enhanced time traveler go back to the Trojan War which is depicted with suitably archaic Bronze Age aesthetics and name spellings, with the "Greeks" being Achaian "sea people" facing the "Trojans" of Wilusa/Wilios. The Trojan Horse is a siege engine with s horse head which breaches the walls at the same time as an earthquake happens with both sides invoking the equivalent of Poseidon the god of horses and earthquakes (the engine is destroyed, but the walls fall). Lilith's uncanny appearance and superhuman abilities lead people to mistake her for a goddess or spirit, but she also pretends to be as an Amazon, from Sarmatia. As a final twist [[spoiler:she blinds and cripples Akireu (Achilles), who then survives to essentially become Homer]].

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* The first album of ''ComicBook/{{Lilith}}'' has the titular enhanced time traveler go back to the Trojan War which is depicted with suitably archaic Bronze Age aesthetics and name spellings, with the "Greeks" being Achaian "sea people" facing the "Trojans" of Wilusa/Wilios. The Trojan Horse is a siege engine with s a horse head which breaches the walls at the same time as an earthquake happens with both sides invoking the equivalent of Poseidon the god of horses and earthquakes (the engine is destroyed, but the walls fall). Lilith's uncanny appearance and superhuman abilities lead people to mistake her for a goddess or spirit, but she also pretends to be as an Amazon, from Sarmatia. As a final twist [[spoiler:she blinds and cripples Akireu (Achilles), who then survives to essentially become Homer]].
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* The first album of ''ComicBook/{{Lilith}}'' has the titular enhanced time traveler go back to the Trojan War which is depicted with suitably archaic Bronze Age aesthetics and name spellings, with the "Greeks" being Achaian "sea people" facing the "Trojans" of Wilusa/Wilios. The Trojan Horse is a siege engine with s horse head which breaches the walls at the same time as an earthquake happens with both sides invoking the equivalent of Poseidon the god of horses and earthquakes (the engine is destroyed, but the walls fall). Lilith's uncanny appearance and superhuman abilities lead people to mistake her for a goddess or spirit, but she also pretends to be as an Amazon, from Sarmatia. As a final twist [[spoiler:she blinds and cripples Akireu (Achilles), who then survives to essentially become Homer]].

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, but mainly presented as beliefs, and played up for comedy.[[note]]Like Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was ''said'' to have mated (but ''shown'' somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan.[[/note]] In general, it's pointed out that the Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War, presented as a possible, more anticlimactic version of what could have happened - that a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, material besides archaeology, but mainly presented as beliefs, and played up for comedy.[[note]]Like Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris Menelaus because her mother was ''said'' to have mated (but ''shown'' somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan.[[/note]] The narrator says that the possible truth behind the myths is less important than what the myths reveal about the people who made and believed them.
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In general, it's pointed out that the Greek Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, with law and order breaking down and agricultural economies being supplemented and replaced more and more by raiding, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" coming!"
** The story of Oedipus unknowingly killing his real father Laios on the road simply for being in each other's way reflects a wilder time where every stranger was a potential enemy. Oedipus being a foundling is cast in doubt as with Moses, Cyrus the Great, Romulus and Remus, etc. The story of the Sphinx and its riddle in meta terms is an excuse for Thebans to put aside the search for the killer of their king Laios (whom Oedipus unknowingly succeeds), though the Sphinx is drawn as real and menaces the narrator.
** Jason and the Argonauts are presented as raiders of whatever the Golden Fleece really was - all we can probably say for sure is that it was gold or golden and didn't belong to them.
** The Argonaut expedition is also shown opening up the route that would later lead to the Trojan War, and while the story of Helen's abduction is presented, there's also the issue of economic control over the area as disputed by the Greeks and Trojans.
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Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War, presented as a possible, more anticlimactic version of what could have happened - that a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy.Troy.
** The Centaurs could be reflections of the earliest Indo-European invaders to use horses in Greece.
** The myths about Zeus being a womanizer in various forms like as a bull or swan may reflect Greek men being encouraged to womanize, explaining mysterious pregnancies by chalking them up to the gods, or even straight up traditions of Greek women and bestiality.
** The emergence and development of the cult of Dionysios as possibly influenced by the Egyptian cult of Osiris is bolstered and encouraged by its wild public sexual orgies and celebration of wine and given official support for economic reasons, and thus possibly helped promote grape cultivation and wine-making across Greece.
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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, but mainly presented as beliefs, and played up for comedy.[[note]Like Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was ''said'' to have mated (but ''shown'' somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan.[[/note]] In general, it's pointed out that the Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War, presented as a possible, more anticlimactic version of what could have happened - that a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, but mainly presented as beliefs, and played up for comedy.[[note]Like [[note]]Like Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was ''said'' to have mated (but ''shown'' somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan.[[/note]] In general, it's pointed out that the Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War, presented as a possible, more anticlimactic version of what could have happened - that a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy.
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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, but mainly presented as beliefs. It's pointed out that the Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" Due to RuleOfFunny, Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was said to have mated (and shown somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan. Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War where a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy. Then later, Oedipus blinding himself and "decorating his beard with his eyeballs" is shown by him having the two solid eyeballs on his beard to contrast his eyeless sockets.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly retells several Greek myths for its Greek ancient history section partly for flavor and partly for lack of archaic material, but mainly presented as beliefs. It's beliefs, and played up for comedy.[[note]Like Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was ''said'' to have mated (but ''shown'' somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan.[[/note]] In general, it's pointed out that the Heroic Age that culminated in the ''Iliad'' etc. was basically a violent age of piracy and warfare, so villagers are shown fleeing, screaming "the heroes are coming!" Due to RuleOfFunny, Helen of Troy is drawn with a duck's head and called "my goosey" by Paris because her mother was said to have mated (and shown somewhat graphically mating) with Zeus in the form of a swan. Then there's an aside about the Egyptian version of the Trojan War where War, presented as a possible, more anticlimactic version of what could have happened - that a Pharaoh kept Helen hostage all the while after she and Paris stopped over, and the Greeks never find out she never reached Troy. Then later, Oedipus blinding himself and "decorating his beard with his eyeballs" is shown by him having the two solid eyeballs on his beard to contrast his eyeless sockets.Troy.
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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald [[TheBrute brutish]] regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'' briefly presents Gilgamesh as a bald [[TheBrute brutish]] brutish regular king and Enkidu as a similarly brutish but regular insane wild man he hung out with. While other kings at the time claimed to be half god, Gilgamesh outdoes them by claiming to be two-thirds god. When a bystander gasps and asks if that means he had ''three'' parents, Gilgamesh just guffaws.
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** The professor narrator says that we don't really knew how the Hebrew God's name YHWH was pronounced back then as it was forbidden under threat of getting struck by lightning. He says that it could be anything from Yahweh to Yehowah to Yahu-Wahu - at which point he gets fried. Later, Hebrews are shown yelling "Yahoo! Wahoo!" in battle.

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** The professor narrator says that we don't really knew know how the Hebrew God's name YHWH was pronounced back then then, as it was forbidden under threat of getting struck by lightning. He says that it could be anything from Yahweh to Yehowah to Yahu-Wahu - at which point he gets fried. Later, Hebrews are shown yelling "Yahoo! Wahoo!" or "Yahu!" in battle.battle, and the Hebrew God's name is shortened to "Yahuwa" or "Yahu" in dialogue.



* ''King Jesus'' by [[Literature/IClaudius Robert Graves]], which mixes the canonical and non-canonical Christian gospels with a great deal of his own innovations, presents Jesus not as the son of God but the secret grandson of Herod. Though he does perform miracles and is resurrected at the end.

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* ''King Jesus'' by [[Literature/IClaudius Robert Graves]], which mixes the canonical and non-canonical Christian gospels with a great deal of his own innovations, presents Jesus not as the son of God but the secret grandson of Herod. Though he does perform miracles and is resurrected at the end. He also presents the true secret name of God as coded through mathematics, musical notation and numerology as "Iieuoaa", or "Jievoaa", with the pronunciation used by the priests being deliberately misleading. Jesus finds out the secret and ultimately speaks the Divine Name aloud to resurrect Lazarus.

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