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The reverse is true, too, though - some people have only seen \'\'Shakespeare In Love\'\' and just can\'t see how something so cheesy and derivative could be worthy of Best Picture. In any case, getting into a debate about which movie should have won is guaranteed to start a Flame War, AND it\'s Natter, so it shouldn\'t be here.
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** And there are tons of people who will tell you it's a ''crime'' that ''ShakespeareInLove'' beat ''SavingPrivateRyan'' -- often without having seen ''ShakespeareInLove'', because "gritty war movie" is automatically superior to "period romantic comedy".
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* It's worth noting that three of the last four comedies to win Best Picture -- ''TheApartment'' (1960), ''AnnieHall'' (1977), and ''{{Shakespeare in Love}}'' (1998) -- aren't regarded as ''pure'' comedies; they all contain significant dramatic elements, though when these occur in Annie Hall its still played for laughs. The other winner, 1963's ''TomJones'', ''is'' a pure comedy, or very close to it... albeit one that's [[TheFilmOfTheBook adapted from a respected 18th-century British novel]].
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* Considering vartoon comedies, ''TomAndJerry'' is a '''major''' exception. Such shorts as ''Quiet, Please!'' and ''Yankee Doodle Mouse'' got an Oscar for the Best Short Animated Film; although it's also worth noting that the number of shorts that won this award is the same that their amount that was only nominated.
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* Considering vartoon cartoon comedies, ''TomAndJerry'' is a '''major''' exception. Such shorts as ''Quiet, Please!'' and ''Yankee Doodle Mouse'' got an Oscar for the Best Short Animated Film; although it's also worth noting that the number of shorts that won this award is the same that their amount that was only nominated.
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*** It's a crime that it beat ''TheBigLebowski''.
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**** This will not stand!
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* Like Batman mentioned above, ''Series/TeenTitans'' is often dismissed for its frequent comedic tone. However, since the series is a CerebusRollercoaster, it can be plenty serious when it wants to be.
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* Considering vartoon comedies, ''TomAndJerry'' is a '''major''' exceptions. Such shorts as ''Quiet, Please!'' and ''Yankee Doodle Mouse'' got an Oscar for the Best Short Animated Film; although it's also worth noting that the number of shorts that won this award is the same that their amount that was only nominated.
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Compare {{animation age ghetto}} and {{sci fi ghetto}} for similarly flawed ideas. For the fandom version, see {{maturity is serious business}}. Particularly good {{satire}} and {{black comedy}} ''may'' be exempt.
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There's an insidious school of thought circulating among the world's pop culture enthusiasts. It states that comedy is not and indeed ''cannot'' be {{true art}}. Since ''true'' art is [[TrueArtIsAngstry [[TrueArtIsAngsty angsty]], [[TrueArtIsOffensive offensive]], and [[TrueArtSticksItToTheMan sticks it to "The Man"]], then it logically follows that something lighthearted, created to inspire joy and laughter amongst the public, must not be true art, right? Sadly, many people seem to think so. For instance, [[AwardSnub can you remember the last time a film comedy won for Best Picture at the Academy Awards?]] Exactly, and the numbers predict that it's not due to happen anytime soon. (The Golden Globe Awards have separate categories for comedies and dramas.)
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There's an insidious school of thought circulating among the world's pop culture enthusiasts. It states that comedy is not and indeed ''cannot'' be {{true art}}. Since {{true ''true'' art is angsty}}, {{true art is offensive}}, [[TrueArtIsAngstry angsty]], [[TrueArtIsOffensive offensive]], and {{true art [[TrueArtSticksItToTheMan sticks it to The Man}}, to "The Man"]], then it logically follows that something lighthearted, created to inspire joy and laughter amongst the public, must not be true art, right? Sadly, many people seem to think so. For instance, [[AwardSnub can you remember the last time a film comedy won for Best Picture at the Academy Awards?]] Exactly, and the numbers predict that it's not due to happen anytime soon. (The Golden Globe Awards have separate categories for comedies and dramas.)
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* ''Entertainment'' magazine's review of ''ObserveAndReport'' praises the film over the similarly-themed ''Paul Blart: Mall Cop'' for one main oft-repeated reason: the former is direct, sad, and "brutal" whereas the latter is funny, and its praise for the performers is secondary. It should be noted that neither film is especially inept, however.
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* ''Entertainment'' magazine's review of ''ObserveAndReport'' praises the film over the similarly-themed ''Paul Blart: Mall Cop'' for one main oft-repeated reason: the former is direct, sad, and "brutal" whereas the latter is funny, and its praise for the performers is secondary. It should be noted that neither film is both films are especially inept, however.
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* It's worth noting that three of the last four comedies to win Best Picture -- ''TheApartment'' (1960), ''AnnieHall'' (1977), and ''{{Shakespeare in Love}}'' (1998) -- aren't regarded as ''pure'' comedies; they all contain significant dramatic elements. The other winner, 1963's ''TomJones'', ''is'' a pure comedy, or very close to it... albeit one that's [[TheFilmOfTheBook adapted from a respected 18th-century British novel]].
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-> ''Crying is easy. Comedy is hard.''
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Gwenn Edmund]] [[http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/10/26/comedy-is-hard Gwenn]]
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This rule tends not to apply to minor technical awards: For instance, at the 1988 Oscars, the Disney / Amblin [[RogerRabbitEffect partly-animated]] [[FantasticComedy fantasy-comedy]] film ''WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' won four Academy Awards, but these four were for film editing, visual effects, sound effects, and animation.
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musical comedy? No. It's a musical fairy tale with some comedic side character. Lots of the darkest theatre have comedic side characters. I remove this because it is not a comedy.
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* The Disney animated musical comedy ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast'' was nominated for Best Picture of 1991, alongside four dark dramas. Of course, one of those dramas (''{{Silence of the Lambs}}'') was the winner. ''Beauty'' might have inched ahead if it hadn't also had the AnimationAgeGhetto working against it -- when the host of the award ceremony is joking about "movable paintings" getting nominated alongside films with live actors, you know it's not being taken too seriously as art.
** Aside: ''SilenceOfTheLambs'' was practically in a Horror Film Ghetto itself, and its Oscar sweep was quite a surprise.
** Aside: ''SilenceOfTheLambs'' was practically in a Horror Film Ghetto itself, and its Oscar sweep was quite a surprise.
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A primary cause of TomHanksSyndrome.
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* P.G Wodehouse, whose novels are often critically acclaimed as being the product of both a great writer and a comic genius.
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That episode won't be recent forever.
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* Similarly, the comedic tone of ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' has drawn criticism from fans of a DarkerAndEdgier Batman, so much so that a recent episode [[BreakingTheFourthWall punched the fourth wall in the face]] to deliver an eloquent defense of a LighterAndSofter show.
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