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** Christian BlackMetal. But since Satanic themes are pratically part of the definition of the genre, this is called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal Unblack Metal]]. Black Metal fans are less than pleased with this, even when these bands otherwise have the same sound.
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** Christian BlackMetal. But since Satanic themes are pratically practically part of the definition of the genre, this is called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal Unblack Metal]]. Black Metal fans are less than pleased with this, even when these bands otherwise have the same sound.
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** Rackets and Drapes, just Rackets and Drapes, called the christian version of Marilyn Manson, they defiantly live up to that title. also the lead singer Kandy Kane admits to being a crossdresser
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** Rackets and Drapes, just Rackets and Drapes, called the christian version of Marilyn Manson, they defiantly definitely live up to that title. also the lead singer Kandy Kane admits to being a crossdressercross-dresser
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* One of the pioneers of the genre was {{Petra}}, founded in 1974. Their name is Greek for "rock", and that's pretty much the only descriptor of their style that's vague enough to remain accurate throughout their history (in the '80s alone, they went from sounding like {{Kansas}} to being a heavy metal band), with {{Synthesizeritis}}-fueled pop-rock somewhere in the middle. They got a ''lot'' of flak early on for daring to play rock music (which many Christians at the time were still uneasy about), and levered a couple {{Take That}}s to their accusers in response.
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* One of the pioneers of the genre was {{Petra}}, founded in 1974. Their name is Greek for "rock", and that's pretty much the only descriptor of their style that's vague enough to remain accurate throughout their history (in the '80s alone, they went from sounding like {{Kansas}} to being a heavy metal band), with {{Synthesizeritis}}-fueled synthesizer-fueled pop-rock somewhere in the middle. They got a ''lot'' of flak early on for daring to play rock music (which many Christians at the time were still uneasy about), and levered a couple {{Take That}}s to their accusers in response.
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It\'s a bit offensive. I don\'t mean to be a censor bar, but it\'s hard for someone to enjoy something when it\'s abrasive to them.
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** Interestingly, this has historic precedent; Late Medieval "Bridal Mysticism", where mystical religious experiences (usually by female celibates) were described/expressed using highly erotic language
*** You only have to compare the two most renowned cases of Spanish mystics, who were roughly contemporary: Juan de la Cruz (a man) had visions that recall Buddhist meditation experiences. Teresa de Avila (a woman) was ''this'' close to be having wet dreams about Jesus.
** For another historic precedent parts of Handel's Messiah involve the Song of Solomon which is considered by many who have read it to be incredibly erotic.
*** Ummm, is there anyone who has read the Song of Solomon who does not realize it is erotic poetry?
**** Some preachers have gone to [[InsaneTrollLogic amazing lengths]] to avoid admitting that.
** Also justified by the Bible itself; metaphorically speaking, "the Church" or the "body of Christ", which refers to Christians in general, are referred to as the "bride" and Christ as the "groom."
*** [[DisSimile Except that Scripture frankly never talks or hints of Christ screwing His church.]]
*** You only have to compare the two most renowned cases of Spanish mystics, who were roughly contemporary: Juan de la Cruz (a man) had visions that recall Buddhist meditation experiences. Teresa de Avila (a woman) was ''this'' close to be having wet dreams about Jesus.
** For another historic precedent parts of Handel's Messiah involve the Song of Solomon which is considered by many who have read it to be incredibly erotic.
*** Ummm, is there anyone who has read the Song of Solomon who does not realize it is erotic poetry?
**** Some preachers have gone to [[InsaneTrollLogic amazing lengths]] to avoid admitting that.
** Also justified by the Bible itself; metaphorically speaking, "the Church" or the "body of Christ", which refers to Christians in general, are referred to as the "bride" and Christ as the "groom."
*** [[DisSimile Except that Scripture frankly never talks or hints of Christ screwing His church.]]
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*** You only have to compare the two most renowned cases of Spanish mystics, who were roughly contemporary: Juan de la Cruz (a man) had visions that recall Buddhist meditation experiences. Teresa de Avila (a woman) was ''this'' close to be having wet dreams about Jesus.
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It should be noted that this genre can be as diverse as the secular form of rock music. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered. And it's wrong to assume the viewpoint/theology of any Christian band or its members, because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
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It should be noted that this genre can be as diverse as the secular form of rock music. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered. And it's wrong to assume the viewpoint/theology of any Christian band or its members, because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
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* In ''{{Metalocalypse}}'', Murderface attempts to find what religion is right for him; one of his first attempts takes him to a horribly lame Christian rock concert, where he struggles to try and get in groove with the music with a pained look on his face.
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* In ''{{Metalocalypse}}'', Murderface attempts to find what religion is right for him; one of his first attempts takes him to a horribly lame Christian rock concert, where he struggles tries to try and get in groove with the horribly lame music with a pained look on his face.
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* In ''{{Metalocalypse}}'', Murderface attempts to find what religion is right for him; one of his first attempts takes him to a horribly lame Christian rock concert, where he struggles to try and get in groove with the music with a pained look on his face.
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---> "[[{{ptitlezbs18uz6sqww}} Hey, isn't that]] the drummer from Satanica?"
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* DemonHunter is an example of a relatively well known Christian {{Metalcore}} band as is UnderOath (though Underoath is far more [[{{Hatedom}} despised]] than Demon Hunter for various reasons)
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* DemonHunter Music/DemonHunter is an example of a relatively well known Christian {{Metalcore}} band as is UnderOath (though Underoath is far more [[{{Hatedom}} despised]] than Demon Hunter for various reasons)
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* Christan rock band Skillet started out with songs that were not at all subtle about worshipping Jesus, but eventually turned their sound more mainstream, switching to lyrics that were ''kind of'' about Jesus. They're arguably [[YourMileageMayVary better for it.]]
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* Christan rock band Skillet {{Skillet}} started out with songs that were not at all subtle about worshipping Jesus, but eventually turned their sound more mainstream, switching to lyrics that were ''kind of'' about Jesus. They're arguably [[YourMileageMayVary better for it.]]
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** Rackets and Drapes, just Rackets and Drapes, called the christian version of Marilyn Manson, they defiantly live up to that title. also the lead singer Kandy Kane admits to being a crossdresser
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. However, some church groups [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]](and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. However, some church groups [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]](and (and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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*** Many people, on hearing Shai Linne for the first time, say that they got more solid doctrine from one album than an entire year of Sunday School.
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** [=dcTalk=] had significant amounts of this.
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* dc Talk was one of, if not ''the'' most popular Christian Rock in the mid-90's. They actually got their start in Christian ''rap'' and slowly evolved into pop-rock with a little hip-hop mixed in. They broke up in 2000 for what was supposed to be simply an 'intermission,' but they haven't even toured together since 2002. Well, so much for that.
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* dc Talk [=dcTalk=] was one of, if not ''the'' most popular Christian Rock in the mid-90's. They actually got their start in Christian ''rap'' and slowly evolved into pop-rock with a little hip-hop mixed in. They broke up in 2000 for what was supposed to be simply an 'intermission,' but they haven't even toured together since 2002. Well, so much for that.
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** The main reason for their never getting back together is because they got involved in other things. Toby Mac launched a very successful career as a Christian Rapper, while Tate recently became the new lead for Newsboys. Which then did a cover of Jesus Freak.
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** The main reason for their never getting back together is because they got involved in other things. Toby Mac launched a very successful career as a Christian Rapper, while Tate Michael Tait started his own band ''Tait,'' and recently became the new lead frontman for Newsboys.{{Newsboys}}. Which then did a cover of Jesus Freak.
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**** Some preachers have gone to [[InsaneTrollLogic amazing lengths]] to avoid admitting that.
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** On the other hand, some "Christian rappers" are basically the early days of [[Will Smith]], remixed, with an occasional positive Christian vibe just because of their personal background. So basically if you like Will Smith you'll think these guys are OK and if you don't then you won't.
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** On the other hand, some "Christian rappers" are basically the early days of [[Will Smith]], WillSmith, remixed, with an occasional positive Christian vibe just because of their personal background. So basically if you like Will Smith you'll think these guys are OK and if you don't then you won't.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. However, some church groups(and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. However, some church groups(and groups [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]](and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some church groups,[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]] (and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
It should be noted that this genre can be as diverse as the secular form of rock music. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered. And it's wrong to assume the viewpoint/theology[[hottip:*:Examples: do non-Christians go to heaven, views on sexuality and gay marriage, how obsessed you should be about God, etc]] of any Christian band or its members), because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
It should be noted that this genre can be as diverse as the secular form of rock music. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered. And it's wrong to assume the viewpoint/theology[[hottip:*:Examples: do non-Christians go to heaven, views on sexuality and gay marriage, how obsessed you should be about God, etc]] of any Christian band or its members), because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some However, some church groups,[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]] (and groups(and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
It should be noted that this genre can be as diverse as the secular form of rock music. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered. And it's wrong to assume theviewpoint/theology[[hottip:*:Examples: do non-Christians go to heaven, views on sexuality and gay marriage, how obsessed you should be about God, etc]] viewpoint/theology of any Christian band or its members), members, because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
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** Christian BlackMetal. But since Satanic themes are part of the defintion of the genre, this is called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal Unblack Metal]]. Black Metal fans are less than pleased with this, even when these bands otherwise have the same sound.
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** Christian BlackMetal. But since Satanic themes are pratically part of the defintion definition of the genre, this is called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal Unblack Metal]]. Black Metal fans are less than pleased with this, even when these bands otherwise have the same sound.
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* KatyPerry used to be a Christian pop singer... then she released "[[LesYay I Kissed a Girl]]".
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** Gospel group Mary Mary is known for creating gospel songs that are different from the usual (a full choir with a preacher leading a la Kirk Franklin) and that are more like R&B songs with Christian lyrics, that actually are played on non-gospel R&B stations.
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Compare NotChristianRock, when music seems as though it could be Christian Rock, but isn't. Keep in mind TheTheoremOfNarrowInterests. A subtrope of TheMoralSubstitute.
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** The "having sex with Jesus" nature was likely due to the tendency in some Christian rock to use metaphors that sound very sexually-loaded to some non-fans - e.g. repeatedly saying that one wants to "touch," "feel," or "hold" Jesus.
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covered. And it's wrong to assume the viewpoint/theology[[hottip:*:Examples: do non-Christians go to heaven, views on sexuality and gay marriage, how obsessed you should be about God, etc]] of any Christian band or its members), because Christian rock's theologies are as diverse and unpredictable as the entire population of Christians, which is [[PuttingItMildly pretty diverse]].
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** To be fair, the head of the band is shown to be a very good Christian, referencing the Ten Commandments when Hank asks Bobby to stop being part of the group.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn Christianity into the lyrics to get played on gospel stations. The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some church groups groups,[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar23AmS3oMo&feature=related]] (and JackChick) believe that ''all'' rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.