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--->'''Hank:''' You're not making Christianity better, you're making rock-and-roll ''worse!''
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some church groups believe that ''all'' modern rock music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre, production values and talent vary greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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It should also be noted and remembered that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. Christian rock refers exclusively to music that is about Christianity. Christians may (and often do) sing in other genres as well.

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It should also be noted and remembered that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. Christian rock refers exclusively to music that is about Christianity. Christians may (and often do) sing in other genres as well.
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It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it can be forgotten easily, that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. Christian rock refers exclusively to music that is about Christianity. Christians may (and often do) sing in other genres as well.

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It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it can be forgotten easily, remembered that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. Christian rock refers exclusively to music that is about Christianity. Christians may (and often do) sing in other genres as well.
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It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it can be forgotten easily, that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. As can be generally seen, this genre is not very marketed, so if an artist is personally Christian, yet wishes to make a lot of money, then they get produced and published under another label.

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It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it can be forgotten easily, that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. As can be generally seen, this genre Christian rock refers exclusively to music that is not very marketed, so if an artist is personally Christian, yet wishes to make a lot of money, then they get produced and published under another label.about Christianity. Christians may (and often do) sing in other genres as well.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre production values and talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre genre, production values and talent vary greatly, greatly between bands, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who believe all rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre production values and talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre production values and talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not believe all heavy rock music is inherently evil simply because of its genre (without regards to its lyrical content) often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is something to be avoided.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre production values and talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. As with any genre production values and talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.
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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn "Jesus" into the lyrics to get played on Gospel stations.

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Some people believe that songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn "Jesus" Christianity into the lyrics to get played on Gospel stations.

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-->''Slam the Devil!''\\
''We won't settle!''\\
''For anything less!''\\
''Than JESUS METAL!!!''\\
-- '''Sanctus Real''', ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Jesus Metal]]''

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-->''Slam the Devil!''\\
''We won't settle!''\\
''For anything less!''\\
''Than JESUS METAL!!!''\\
-- '''Sanctus Real''', ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Jesus Metal]]''
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Some people believe that this songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn "Jesus" into the lyrics to get played on Gospel stations.

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Some people believe that this songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn "Jesus" into the lyrics to get played on Gospel stations.



It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it really really isn't, that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. As can be generally seen, this genre is not very marketed, so if an artist is personally Christian, yet wishes to make a lot of money, then they get produced and published under another label.

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It should also be noted and remembered, because sometimes it really really isn't, can be forgotten easily, that an artist's personal religious affiliation can have absolutely nothing to do with what genre they sing in. As can be generally seen, this genre is not very marketed, so if an artist is personally Christian, yet wishes to make a lot of money, then they get produced and published under another label.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular As with any genre production values and seem a little strange, talent vary greatly, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative very traditional church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music (regardless of its content) is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". People who don't understand that not all heavy music (regardless of its content) is inherently evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". This generally comes people who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil, and who likely don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". This generally comes people People who don't understand that not all heavy music (regardless of its content) is inherently evil, and who likely evil often don't listen to Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.
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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". That generally comes parents who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil. An interesting extension to this is the fact that some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". That This generally comes parents people who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil. An interesting extension evil, and who likely don't listen to this is the fact that some Christian rock, either. Some more conservative church groups believe that ''all'' modern music, including Christian rock, is evil.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". That generally comes either from the record labels or from common misunderstandings. It bears mentioning that the big "Christian" labels that promote this are all subsidiaries of the big "non-Christian" labels.

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The reality is quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe". That generally comes either from the record labels or from common misunderstandings. It bears mentioning parents who don't understand that not all heavy music is inherently evil. An interesting extension to this is the big "Christian" labels fact that promote this are all subsidiaries of the big "non-Christian" labels.
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Concerts are often very different from regular rock or metal concerts, for a number of reasons. First, because a band is Christian, parents will allow younger children to go to their concerts, and because young children may be at their concerts, certain rules must be in play that otherwise would not be. Specifically, they're almost always much quieter than your average rock concerts. Mosh pits are essentially unheard of, both because of the fact that younger children are present, and because the controversy and aggression associated with moshing aren't something that lend it to this type of music.

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Concerts are often very different from regular rock or metal concerts, for a number of reasons. First, because a band is Christian, parents will allow younger children to go to their concerts, and because young children may be at their concerts, certain rules must be in play that otherwise would not be. Specifically, they're almost always much quieter than your average rock concerts. Mosh pits are essentially unheard of, both because of the fact that younger young children are present, and because the controversy and aggression associated with moshing aren't something that lend it to this type of music.

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-->''Don't you realize? You're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock 'n' Roll worse!''\\
-- '''Hank Hill''', ''KingOfTheHill''

-->''All right, guys, this is gonna be so easy. All we have to do to make Christian songs is take regular old songs and add Jesus stuff to them. See? All we have to do is cross out words like [[GodIsLoveSongs "baby" and "Darling"]] and replace them with ''[writes]'' Jesus.''\\
-- '''Eric Cartman''', ''SouthPark'' ("Christian Rock Hard")



To some, this music is watered down imitations of popular genres, that have low production values, shoehorn "Jesus" into the lyrics, and only get shilled on the Bible stations.

That is only partly the case. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and a little weird, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on the mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say that whole "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe," thing. That is something that the record labels actually promote and lazy parents fall for. And it bears mentioning that the big "Christian" labels that promote this are all subsidiaries of the big "non-Christian" labels.

Should be noted that, this genre can be as diverse as the secular forms of the genres. ''Just as diverse.'' Everything from soft rock to the various forms of HeavyMithril will be covered.

One area where Christian Rock can be logically proven to be less interesting in one fashion than secular rock, is in its concerts. Essentially, because a band is "Christian", parents will allow young children to go to their concerts; and because young children may be at their concerts, certain rules must be in play that otherwise would not be. Specifically, they're almost always much quieter than your average rock concert, and mosh pits are essentially unheard of.

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To some, Some people believe that this music is songs in this genre are watered down imitations of popular genres, that they have low production values, and that they just shoehorn "Jesus" into the lyrics, and only lyrics to get shilled played on the Bible Gospel stations.

That The reality is only partly the case.quite different. Christian Rock is less TheMoralSubstitute than is popularly believed. Yes, the scene can be insular and seem a little weird, strange, but it's no more derivative than any of the bands playing on the mainstream radio. The bands themselves don't say that whole say, "Don't listen to Band Y, they don't mention Jesus so they must worship the Devil. Listen to X instead, they're safe," thing. safe". That is something that generally comes either from the record labels actually promote and lazy parents fall for. And it or from common misunderstandings. It bears mentioning that the big "Christian" labels that promote this are all subsidiaries of the big "non-Christian" labels.

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One area where Christian Rock can be logically proven to be less interesting in one fashion than secular rock, is in its concerts. Essentially, Concerts are often very different from regular rock or metal concerts, for a number of reasons. First, because a band is "Christian", Christian, parents will allow young younger children to go to their concerts; concerts, and because young children may be at their concerts, certain rules must be in play that otherwise would not be. Specifically, they're almost always much quieter than your average rock concert, and mosh concerts. Mosh pits are essentially unheard of.
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* Not a ChristianRock band, but how about [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip-COzs42LQ this]] PunkRock-ified version of AmazingFreakingGrace by the Dropkick Murphys?
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->''Slam the Devil!''\\

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->''All right, guys, this is gonna be so easy. All we have to do to make Christian songs is take regular old songs and add Jesus stuff to them. See? All we have to do is cross out words like [[GodIsLoveSongs "baby" and "Darling"]] and replace them with ''[writes]'' Jesus.''\\

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->''Don't you realize? You're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock 'n' Roll worse!''\\

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->''You're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock 'n' Roll worse!''\\

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* The UrExample: 1972's "I Wish We'd All Been Ready" by Larry Norman, generally viewed as the godfather of Christian rock. The song was on the soundtrack for the Christian film ''A Thief in the Night'', which is basically a [[TheSeventies Seventies]] version of ''LeftBehind''. Later on, Norman would grow disenchanted with the Christian music scene, claiming that it had become about "sloppy thinking, dishonest metaphors, and bad poetry," and joking that you could write a Christian pop song by taking a secular [[SillyLoveSongs love song]] and replacing "baby" with "Jesus".

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* The UrExample: 1972's "I Wish We'd All Been Ready" by Larry Norman, generally viewed as the godfather of Christian rock. The song was on the soundtrack for the Christian film ''A Thief in the Night'', which is basically a [[TheSeventies Seventies]] version of ''LeftBehind''. Later on, Norman would grow disenchanted with the Christian music scene, claiming that it had become about "sloppy thinking, dishonest metaphors, and bad poetry," and joking that you could write a Christian pop song by taking a secular [[SillyLoveSongs love song]] and [[GodIsLoveSongs replacing "baby" with "Jesus"."Jesus"]].
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* Katy Perry used to be a Christian pop singer... then she released "[[LesYay I Kissed a Girl]]".

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*** And anyway, the myth of the perfect Christian, is a perfect example of CompletelyMissingThePoint of Christianity.

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