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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the musical). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal as well.

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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the musical). And considering that Chava had to convert [[ConvertingForLove convert]] to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal as well.
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the musical). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal.

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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the musical). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal.
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the film). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal.

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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the film).musical). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal.
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the film).

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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter Chava to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the tension in that time and place between Jewish and Christian communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and we see both in the film).
film). And considering that Chava had to convert to marry a Christian man, it makes sense for the devoutly Jewish Tevye to see it as a personal betrayal.
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish.
** In the beginning of the play, she and her sisters are waiting for some random EntitledToHaveYou guy to be assigned to each of them, but they all eventually rebel and choose their own husbands. Tevye accepts the rebellion of his oldest daughters, since they stick to choosing Jewish guys.
*** Considering part of Christian theology is that, technically, Tevye and the rest of her family are going to hell for being Jews, seeing her conversion to Christianity (which happens in order for her to marry a Christian) as a betrayal is somewhat understandable. As is his intolerance towards Russians after his one Russian friend actually participated in a pogrom.
**** Technically, there are several branches of Christian theology. Also, in many branches of Christian theology, you don't get sent to Hell for being X, but rather, for not accepting Christ (since Christ is the only pathway to washing off original sin, and no one who is still in a state of sin can enter heaven). This may seem like a trivial distinction, but gets to a very different underlying intentionality. Though admittedly that intentionality distinction may be imperceptible from the outside vantage point or absent in the heart of some.
**** Also, in most cases the man was no more involved in the arranged marriage process than the woman; Leizer's case is different as he is an older widower. Tevye, on the other hand, had no say in marrying Golda.

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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the protagonist Tevye (a good Jew in a really conservative society, who is struggling with [[TroubledSympatheticBigot his prejudices and social pressure versus the emancipation of his daughters]]) considers his beloved daughter to be past the MoralEventHorizon simply for wanting to marry a guy who isn't Jewish. \n** In Of course, [[ItMakesSenseInContext it makes sense]] [[ValuesDissonance in the beginning historical context]] of pre-revolutionary Russia, given the play, she tension in that time and her sisters are waiting for some random EntitledToHaveYou guy to be assigned to each of them, but they all eventually rebel and choose their own husbands. Tevye accepts the rebellion of his oldest daughters, since they stick to choosing place between Jewish guys.
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and Christian theology is that, technically, Tevye communities (who often violently harassed Jews or forced them out of their homes, and the rest of her family are going to hell for being Jews, seeing her conversion to Christianity (which happens in order for her to marry a Christian) as a betrayal is somewhat understandable. As is his intolerance towards Russians after his one Russian friend actually participated in a pogrom.
**** Technically, there are several branches of Christian theology. Also, in many branches of Christian theology, you don't get sent to Hell for being X, but rather, for not accepting Christ (since Christ is the only pathway to washing off original sin, and no one who is still in a state of sin can enter heaven). This may seem like a trivial distinction, but gets to a very different underlying intentionality. Though admittedly that intentionality distinction may be imperceptible from the outside vantage point or absent
we see both in the heart of some.
**** Also, in most cases the man was no more involved in the arranged marriage process than the woman; Leizer's case is different as he is an older widower. Tevye, on the other hand, had no say in marrying Golda.
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* HuckleberryFinn's father (an uneducated, coarse slob) berated his son for taking up reading and doing quite well, because all their family were illiterate prior to that moment. He even goes so far as outright calling his son a [[ClassTraitor traitor]].

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* HuckleberryFinn's father (an uneducated, coarse slob) berated his son for [[TallPoppySyndrome taking up reading and doing quite well, well]], because all their family were illiterate prior to that moment. He even goes so far as outright calling his son a [[ClassTraitor traitor]].
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* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Death-Eaters]] consider wizardry to be in the blood. They also feel that [[NoTrueScotsman all "real" wizards are obliged to be "loyal" to "their own kind,"]] and thus despise all [[{{Muggle}} regular humans]] as well as wizards with direct Muggle ancestry (who are derisively termed "mudbloods"), who are horrible abominations for springing from the "wrong" blood. Wizards who are from pureblood backgrounds but don't hate Muggles and Muggle-born wizards they refer to as "Blood Traitors."

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* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Death-Eaters]] consider wizardry to be in the blood. They also feel that [[NoTrueScotsman all "real" wizards are obliged to be "loyal" to "their own kind,"]] and thus despise all [[{{Muggle}} regular humans]] as well as wizards with direct Muggle ancestry (who are derisively termed "mudbloods"), who are horrible abominations for springing from the "wrong" blood. Wizards who are from pureblood backgrounds backgrounds, but don't hate Muggles and Muggle-born wizards wizards, they refer to as "Blood Traitors."
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* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Death-Eaters]] consider wizardry to be in the blood. They also feel that [[NoTrueScotsman all "real" wizards are obliged to be "loyal" to "their own kind,"]] and thus despise all [[{{Muggle}} regular humans]] as well as wizards with direct Muggle ancestry (who are derisively termed "mudbloods"), who are horrible abominations for springing from the "wrong" blood. Wizards who are from pureblood backgrounds but don't hate Muggles and Muggleborn they refer to as "Blood Traitors."

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* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Death-Eaters]] consider wizardry to be in the blood. They also feel that [[NoTrueScotsman all "real" wizards are obliged to be "loyal" to "their own kind,"]] and thus despise all [[{{Muggle}} regular humans]] as well as wizards with direct Muggle ancestry (who are derisively termed "mudbloods"), who are horrible abominations for springing from the "wrong" blood. Wizards who are from pureblood backgrounds but don't hate Muggles and Muggleborn Muggle-born wizards they refer to as "Blood Traitors."



** And Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's an accountant, but the family "never talk about him."

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** And Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's [[MuggleBornOfMages an accountant, accountant]], but the family "never talk about him."
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-> "Blood-traitor is next to Mudblood in my book."

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He pretty clearly DID betray the human race.


* In ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', the humans are invading the planet Pandora. Destroying the environment and escalating their hostility against the native Na'vi population towards genocidal proportions. When the human protagonist won't stand for this, he gets accused of "betraying his species."

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* In ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', the humans are invading the planet Pandora. Destroying the environment and escalating their hostility against the native Na'vi population towards genocidal proportions. When the human protagonist won't stand for this, lives among the aliens as one of them - using the titular Avatar technology - he gets accused begins to sympathize with their cause and ultimately decides to become a Na'vi and help them fight his fellow humans. [[ColonelBadass Colonel Quaritch]] accuses him of "betraying his species."
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** And Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's an accountant, but the family "never talk about him."
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* ''WhateverLoveMeans'' rants quite a bit about how [[BrosBeforeHoes men are expected and indoctrinated to be loyal to men in general, at the expense of women]].

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* ''WhateverLoveMeans'' rants quite a bit about how [[BrosBeforeHoes men are expected and indoctrinated to be loyal to men in general, at the expense of women]].women. Mostly at a more structural level than BrosBeforeHoes.
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* ''WhateverLoveMeans'' rants quite a bit about how men are expected and indoctrinated to be loyal to men in general, at the expense of women.

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* ''WhateverLoveMeans'' rants quite a bit about how [[BrosBeforeHoes men are expected and indoctrinated to be loyal to men in general, at the expense of women.women]].
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This group ''can'' be exactly anything. In real life, psychological experiments have shown that people can quickly be made to develop group identity over ''any'' dividing lines, no matter how arbitrary and superficial. However, some dividers are more common than others. The classics are [[RaceTraitor race]], [[GenderTraitor gender]], [[ClassTraitor class]], religion and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous what sports team you're cheering for]]. "Uncle Tom" is a common mainstream term for people who are perceived as betraying their own group in order to gain the favor of an outside, usually more powerful, group.

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This group ''can'' be exactly anything. In real life, psychological experiments have shown that people can quickly be made to develop group identity over ''any'' dividing lines, no matter how arbitrary and superficial. However, some dividers are more common than others. The classics are [[RaceTraitor race]], [[GenderTraitor gender]], [[ClassTraitor class]], religion and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous what sports team you're cheering for]]. "Uncle Tom" "[[UncleTomFoolery Uncle Tom]]" is a common mainstream term for people who are perceived as betraying their own group in order to gain the favor of an outside, usually more powerful, group.
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This group ''can'' be exactly anything. In real life, psychological experiments have shown that people can quickly be made to develop group identity over ''any'' dividing lines, no matter how arbitrary and superficial. However, some dividers are more common than others. The classics are [[RaceTraitor race]], [[GenderTraitor gender]], [[ClassTraitor class]], religion and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous what sports team you're cheering for]].

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This group ''can'' be exactly anything. In real life, psychological experiments have shown that people can quickly be made to develop group identity over ''any'' dividing lines, no matter how arbitrary and superficial. However, some dividers are more common than others. The classics are [[RaceTraitor race]], [[GenderTraitor gender]], [[ClassTraitor class]], religion and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous what sports team you're cheering for]].
for]]. "Uncle Tom" is a common mainstream term for people who are perceived as betraying their own group in order to gain the favor of an outside, usually more powerful, group.
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** In an interesting look at things, even wizards who aren't Death Eaters have negative opinions on wizards who are a little too interested with Muggle affairs. Arthur Weasley is implied to be passed up for promotions (and subsequently means by which to provide better for his family) because of his unnerving enthusiasm for anything Muggle-related, which even the Minister Of Magic sees as disgraceful. Dumbledore also gets some grief for reading Muggle newspapers.
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* The team in ''{{Alphas}}'' has been accused of this by other alphas for helping track them down and hand them over to the Department of Defense, where they face indefinite imprisonment. Some members of the team clearly worry about this themselves.

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* The team in ''{{Alphas}}'' ''Series/{{Alphas}}'' has been accused of this by other alphas for helping track them down and hand them over to the Department of Defense, where they face indefinite imprisonment. Some members of the team clearly worry about this themselves.

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* In ''AmericanDad'', Terry is angered that Greg is a member of the [[GayConservative Gay Republicans]].

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**** Technically, there are several branches of Christian theology. Also, in many branches of Christian theology, you don't get sent to Hell for being X, but rather, for not accepting Christ (since Christ is the only pathway to washing off original sin, and no one who is still in a state of sin can enter heaven). This may seem like a trivial distinction, but gets to a very different underlying intentionality. Though admittedly that intentionality distinction may be imperceptible from the outside vantage point or absent in the heart of some.
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* Many Thundarians seem to consider Lion-O from ''{{Thundercats 2011}}'' this. Especially after he goes out of his way to protect some lizards.

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* Many Thundarians seem to consider Lion-O from ''{{Thundercats In ''WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}}'' this. Especially after he goes out young prince Lion-O, already known among his people as a {{Cloudcuckoolander}}, defends some [[StockPunishment stockaded]] [[LizardFolk Lizard]] slaves from a PowderkegCrowd of his way fellow {{Catfolk}}. This backfires spectacularly, stirring them up into an AngryMob demanding a full blown VigilanteExecution, calling him "[[FantasticSlur Lizard lover]]" and threatening to protect some lizards.put him in the stocks themselves.
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Diplomatic Solution flew out the window as soon as the rockets started flying at Hometree, and especially when the corporate weasel (I forget his name) didn\'t stand up to Quatrich.


** Well, the guy did help the Na'vi kill a lot of people he worked for... people who were looking for a diplomatic solution too.
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Usually overlaps with WithUsOrAgainstUs, when Alice gives Bob an ultimatum regarding whatever activities he may be doing that Alice considers traitorous.
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And thus, Alice will consider Bob a "traitor" or similar whenever he does something she considers to be against the group. This includes anything that might be beneficial to any other group, based on the assumption that life is a ZeroSumGame. Note that words such as "traitor" or "betrayer" do not necessarily have to be invoked, as long as Alice makes her position clear one way or another.

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And thus, Alice will consider Bob a "traitor" or similar whenever he does something she considers to be against the group. This includes anything that might be beneficial to any other group, based on the assumption that life helping others is a ZeroSumGame.the same as damaging the group. Note that words such as "traitor" or "betrayer" do not necessarily have to be invoked, as long as Alice makes her position clear one way or another.
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* Many Thundarians seem to consider Lion-O from ''{{Thundercats 2011}}'' this. Especially after he goes out of his way to protect some lizards.
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* Seen in ''{{Coupling}}'' where Sally accuses a gay man of being a traitor because he supports the Conservatives.

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* Seen in ''{{Coupling}}'' where Sally accuses [[GayConservative a gay man of being a traitor because he supports the Conservatives.Conservatives]].



* In ''AmericanDad'', Terry is angered that Greg is a member of the Gay Republicans.

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* Though no one has accused him directly, Merlin from ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' has come up against several magical-users, both allies and enemies, who have suggested that he is a traitor (or at least hugely misguided) in supporting King Uther's anti-magical regime (he's not, he's just biding his time until Arthur is king).

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* In one issue of ''{{Superman}}'' where the second Bloodsport (a white supremacist) is making his debut, he comes across a gang of thugs (two black, one white) about to rape a woman. He kills the two black thugs, then kills the white guy for being a "race traitor."
** Oddly enough, the woman in this example is initially shown to be white on the first page, but the next page shows her to be a black woman (who Bloodsport also kills before he shoots the white guy).
--> '''White guy:''' ''(Bloodsport has him at gunpoint)'' P-please--don't--
--> '''Bloodsport:''' SHUT UP! Think I want to do this? If there was any other--
--> '''Woman:''' What're you saying? You know what they were gonna do to me? Shoot him! Shoot the son-of-a--
--> ''(Bloodsport shoots her instead)''
--> '''Bloodsport:''' ''(about the woman)'' They always knew their place. ''(to white guy)'' You're no better. You're a race traitor! ''(kills him)''

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