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-->'''{{M|agnificentBastard}}egabyte:''' What you did was slimy, contemptible and downright distasteful. I loved it!

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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'' hen Dr. Richard Impossible becomes evil--well, more evil than he had been up to that point--he exploits his former brother-in-law's [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]]-like ability to burst into flames as a PowerSource for his Manhattan office building. Unlike Johnny Storm, however, the victim has no ability to control his powers, and is is constant agony whenever he's conscious. Baron Ünderbheit praises this as the most evil thing he's ever seen.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'' hen ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'', when Dr. Richard Impossible becomes evil--well, more evil than he had been up to that point--he exploits his former brother-in-law's [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]]-like ability to burst into flames as a PowerSource for his Manhattan office building. Unlike Johnny Storm, however, the victim has no ability to control his powers, and is is in constant agony whenever he's conscious. Baron Ünderbheit praises this as the most evil thing he's ever seen.
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' when our Rick finds a machine created by the evil Rick of another dimension that tortures [[spoiler:Morties to maintain a stealth field around his fortress]]. Our Rick says this is a bad thing to do, but is actually more hung-up with how ''poor'' the design is, as opposed to the grudging admiration he certainly would have had if Evil!Rick had used Rick's design (which he insists was only done on paper as a hypothetical).
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* In ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and its sequel, the Mandalorians as a whole regarding Revan. Revan thoroughly trashed them in the Mandalorian Wars, but far from being sore they have instead placed Revan on a pedestal. Canderous in particular describes Revan's use of expert tactics, and ferocity on the battlefield, and even Revan's defeat of Mandalore the Ultimate in tones of admiration. By Mandalorian values, Revan was the ultimate WorthyOpponent, and to face Revan in battle was the ultimate honor win or lose. [[spoiler: And where pretty much everyone else is upset when finding out the PC is an amnesiac Darth Revan, Canderous instead becomes the Mandalorian version of TheKnightsWhoSaySquee]].

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* In ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' '' VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and its sequel, the Mandalorians as a whole regarding Revan. Revan thoroughly trashed them in the Mandalorian Wars, but far from being sore they have instead placed Revan on a pedestal. Canderous in particular describes Revan's use of expert tactics, and ferocity on the battlefield, and even Revan's defeat of Mandalore the Ultimate in tones of admiration. By Mandalorian values, Revan was the ultimate WorthyOpponent, and to face Revan in battle was the ultimate honor win or lose. [[spoiler: And where pretty much everyone else is upset when finding out the PC is an amnesiac Darth Revan, Canderous instead becomes the Mandalorian version of TheKnightsWhoSaySquee]].
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* This little bit in ''Film/ThePagemaster'', when the books talk about [[Literature/MobyDick Captain Ahab]].
-->'''Fantasy:''' He's [[HeWhoFightsMonsters possessed!]]\\
'''Horror:''' He's [[AxeCrazy insane!]]\\
'''Adventure:''' He's my kind of guy!
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** Judging from how fondly he refers to a lot of his victims ("playmates"), Dexter has a lot of this going on. It's just that he kills killers and [[NothingPersonal they are, well, killers]].
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If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery. Compare and contrast TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, where the hero admits he admires ''one'' thing about a villain he otherwise despises.

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A subtrope to VillainCred, the general respect a villain gets for their evil deeds from other villains. If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery. Compare and contrast TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, where the hero admits he admires ''one'' thing about a villain he otherwise despises.
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* [[Franchise/MassEffect Aria]] sums up [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji's]] situation in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8984362/12/Alpha-and-Omega Alpha and Omega]]'' before using this trope.
-->'''Aria''': "So... he nearly cut a Spectre's throat, stole her weapon, and then took two of the most influential Asari in the galaxy hostage at gunpoint. You know, I can't help but feel slightly proud..."
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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros hen Dr. Richard Impossible becomes evil--well, more evil than he had been up to that point--he exploits his former brother-in-law's [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]]-like ability to burst into flames as a PowerSource for his Manhattan office building. Unlike Johnny Storm, however, the victim has no ability to control his powers, and is is constant agony whenever he's conscious. Baron Ünderbheit praises this as the most evil thing he's ever seen.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'' hen Dr. Richard Impossible becomes evil--well, more evil than he had been up to that point--he exploits his former brother-in-law's [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]]-like ability to burst into flames as a PowerSource for his Manhattan office building. Unlike Johnny Storm, however, the victim has no ability to control his powers, and is is constant agony whenever he's conscious. Baron Ünderbheit praises this as the most evil thing he's ever seen.
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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros hen Dr. Richard Impossible becomes evil--well, more evil than he had been up to that point--he exploits his former brother-in-law's [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Johnny Storm]]-like ability to burst into flames as a PowerSource for his Manhattan office building. Unlike Johnny Storm, however, the victim has no ability to control his powers, and is is constant agony whenever he's conscious. Baron Ünderbheit praises this as the most evil thing he's ever seen.

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* ''Flesh and Blood'' (1985). After Steven's wife is kidnapped by mercenaries, he and his father go to the mercenaries' former commander Hawkwood. Steven bullies him into helping get her back by threatening the woman Hawkwood is caring for. As Steven has been portrayed up till now as rather bookish and ineffectual, his father laughs and notes with approval, "You're as ruthless as I am!"

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* ''Flesh and Blood'' (1985). After Steven's wife is kidnapped by mercenaries, he and his father go to the mercenaries' former commander Hawkwood. Steven bullies him into helping get her back by threatening the woman Hawkwood is caring for. As Steven has been portrayed up till now as rather bookish and ineffectual, his father laughs and notes with approval, "You're as ruthless as I am!" Steven just replies grimly, "When I have to be."
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* ''Flesh and Blood'' (1985). After Steven's wife is kidnapped by mercenaries, he and his father go to the mercenaries' former commander Hawkwood. Steven bullies him into helping get her back by threatening the woman Hawkwood is caring for. As Steven has been portrayed up till now as rather bookish and ineffectual, his father laughs and notes with approval, "You're as ruthless as I am!"
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* Frequently occurs on ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'' in scenes involving Boris and Natasha, given their BadIsGood philosophy on life. Often Natasha would say something to the effect of "Boris, you sneaky, no-good, rotten scoundrel! You're my kind of guy!"

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* Frequently occurs on ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'' in scenes involving Boris and Natasha, given their BadIsGood [[BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad bad is good]] philosophy on life. Often Natasha would say something to the effect of "Boris, you sneaky, no-good, rotten scoundrel! You're my kind of guy!"

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* In ''[[KimPossible A Sitch]] [[TheMovie In Time]]'', EvilOverlord-wannabe turned [[TheDragon Dragon]] Dr. Drakken complains that Shego has very poor villain form by refusing to gloat over her victory.
* On ''{{Jimmy Two-Shoes}}'', after [[TheCaligula Lucius]] is woken up in the middle of the night:

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* In ''[[KimPossible A Sitch]] ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible: [[TheMovie In A Sitch in Time]]'', EvilOverlord-wannabe turned [[TheDragon Dragon]] Dr. Drakken complains that Shego has very poor villain form by refusing to gloat over her victory.
* On ''{{Jimmy Two-Shoes}}'', ''WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes'', after [[TheCaligula Lucius]] is woken up in the middle of the night:



* During the "Identity Crisis" episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{ReBoot}}'', after Sirus had stolen a file containing the [=PIDs=] for a sector under Megabyte's control:

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* During the ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'' episode "Identity Crisis" episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{ReBoot}}'', Crisis", after Sirus had stolen a file containing the [=PIDs=] for a sector under Megabyte's control:



* Frequently occurs on ''RockyAndBullwinkle'' in scenes involving Boris and Natasha, given their BadIsGood philosophy on life. Often Natasha would say something to the effect of "Boris, you sneaky, no-good, rotten scoundrel! You're my kind of guy!"

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* Frequently occurs on ''RockyAndBullwinkle'' ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'' in scenes involving Boris and Natasha, given their BadIsGood philosophy on life. Often Natasha would say something to the effect of "Boris, you sneaky, no-good, rotten scoundrel! You're my kind of guy!"
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* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'' again (this time only the TV show) admits, at least at first, that he admires Trinity for his success in maintaining the life he's led. Partially subverted in that Dexter still has every intention of KILLING him, but not before he can learn how to do the same with his own life.

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* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'' again (this time only the TV show) admits, at least at first, that he admires Trinity for his success in maintaining the life he's led. Partially subverted Downplayed in that Dexter still has every intention of KILLING him, but not before he can learn how to do the same with his own life.
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* In XMenMutantAcademy Professor Xavier has this to say about [[AntiHero Gambit]].

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* In XMenMutantAcademy ''XMenMutantAcademy'', Professor Xavier has this to say about [[AntiHero Gambit]].
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If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery. See also TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, where the hero admits he admires ''one'' thing about the villain.

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If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery. See also Compare and contrast TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, where the hero admits he admires ''one'' thing about the villain.a villain he otherwise despises.
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If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery.

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If it's a VillainTeamUp, the {{Card Carrying Villain}}s will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare ArsonMurderAndLifesaving. Compare InLoveWithYourCarnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast InsultBackfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame or just BaddieFlattery. See also TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou, where the hero admits he admires ''one'' thing about the villain.
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* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' fan fiction "[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8619924/1/Epistolary-The-50-Years-Before-We-Were-Born Epistolary: The 50 Years Before We Were Born]]", WinstonChurchill recalls his first encounter with the Doctor in a letter to Amy Pond-Williams:

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* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' fan fiction "[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8619924/1/Epistolary-The-50-Years-Before-We-Were-Born Epistolary: The 50 Years Before We Were Born]]", WinstonChurchill UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill recalls his first encounter with the Doctor in a letter to Amy Pond-Williams:
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* In ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and its sequel, the Mandalorians as a whole regarding Revan. Revan thoroughly trashed them in the Mandalorian Wars, but far from being sore they have instead placed Revan on a pedestal. Canderous in particular describes Revan's use of expert tactics, and ferocity on the battlefield, and even Revan's defeat of Mandalore the Ultimate in tones of admiration. By Mandalorian values, Revan was the ultimate WorthyOpponent, and to face Revan in battle was the ultimate honor win or lose. [[spoiler: And where pretty much everyone else is upset when finding out the PC is an amnesiac Darth Revan, Canderous instead becomes the Mandalorian version of TheKnightsWhoSaySquee]].
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'''Imperial Scientist #1:''' Yes. I didn't have the backing or the resources to pursue it, by the hypotheses were there. Never imagined the Republic would beat me to it. Didn't think they had it in them.

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'''Imperial Scientist #1:''' Yes. I didn't have the backing or the resources to pursue it, by but the hypotheses were there. Never imagined the Republic would beat me to it. Didn't think they had it in them.

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* Inverted on ''RedVsBlue'': while Sarge is glad that O'Malley is killing all the Blues, he can't stand the thought that he now has a higher body count.
* Likewise in ''WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad''.
-->'''Tompkins''': Aw, come on prinicpal [sic] Strong Bad, I only stole ''one'' Sega tape.\\
'''Strong Bad''': That's just it, Tompkins. You could have stolen ''upwards'' of one Sega tape.
* In ''Series/{{Noob}}'', Gaea discovers that the leader of the top guild of an enemy faction has a tax on all the faction's guilds. She initially acts shocked, but ends up calling the guy a genius due to the fact [[MoneyFetish it's actually the kind of thing]] [[GoldFever she'd do if she could]]. She still has a personal reason to be shocked since [[spoiler:she just recently pulled a Heel Face Turn, she's one of the most greedy fiction characters out there, and she was made master of guild that happens to be ''very'' late in its payments]].
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* Inverted on ''RedVsBlue'': while Sarge is glad that O'Malley is killing all the Blues, he can't stand the thought that he now has a higher body count.
* Likewise in ''WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad''.
-->'''Tompkins''': Aw, come on prinicpal [sic] Strong Bad, I only stole ''one'' Sega tape.\\
'''Strong Bad''': That's just it, Tompkins. You could have stolen ''upwards'' of one Sega tape.
* In ''Series/{{Noob}}'', Gaea discovers that the leader of the top guild of an enemy faction has a tax on all the faction's guilds. She initially acts shocked, but ends up calling the guy a genius due to the fact [[MoneyFetish it's actually the kind of thing]] [[GoldFever she'd do if she could]]. She still has a personal reason to be shocked since [[spoiler:she just recently pulled a Heel Face Turn, she's one of the most greedy fiction characters out there, and she was made master of guild that happens to be ''very'' late in its payments]].
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* In XMenMutantAcademy Professor Xavier has this to say about [[AntiHero Gambit]].
-->'''Professor Xavier:''' Your training has shown you to be unpredictable, unconventional, insolent and... An X-Man.
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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS09E02DevilMayCare "Devil May Care" (S09, Ep02)]], congratulates a handful of demons on being "violent, power-hungry opportunists" although she finds fault with their reliance on deals and choice of meat suits.

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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS09E02DevilMayCare "Devil May Care" (S09, Ep02)]], Abaddon congratulates a handful of demons on being "violent, power-hungry opportunists" although she finds fault with their reliance on deals and choice of meat suits.
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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS09E02DevilMayCare "Devil May Care" (S09, Ep02)]], congratulates a handful of demons on being "violent, power-hungry opportunists" although she finds fault with their reliance on deals and choice of meat suits.
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-->''I first met the Doctor when I was 25 years old. He was [[ColinBaker a maniacal, arrogant man]] [[ImpossiblyTackyClothes in a ridiculous overcoat with a pattern mimicking a circus tent]] and an umbrella like a color wheel. [[InsufferableGenius Loud, caustic, short tempered, self-absorbed, stubborn]] [[JerkAss and in general a horses arse.]] I liked him immediately.''

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-->''I first met the Doctor when I was 25 years old. He was [[ColinBaker [[Creator/ColinBaker a maniacal, arrogant man]] [[ImpossiblyTackyClothes in a ridiculous overcoat with a pattern mimicking a circus tent]] and an umbrella like a color wheel. [[InsufferableGenius Loud, caustic, short tempered, self-absorbed, stubborn]] [[JerkAss and in general a horses arse.]] I liked him immediately.''
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* Inverted in ''LookingForGroup'', where [[OmnicidalManiac Richard]] is criticized on not being evil enough. But then it ''was'' from a KangarooCourt set up by TheLegionsOfHell...

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* Inverted in ''LookingForGroup'', ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'', where [[OmnicidalManiac Richard]] is criticized on not being evil enough. But then it ''was'' from a KangarooCourt set up by TheLegionsOfHell...



* In the world of GirlGenius, [[MadScientist Sparks]] will ''often'' fall into this, both protagonists and antagonists. When you're a genetically predetermined genius mad scientist, apparently you're prone to it. Classic example seen [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090821 here.]]

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* In the world of GirlGenius, ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'', [[MadScientist Sparks]] will ''often'' fall into this, both protagonists and antagonists. When you're a genetically predetermined genius mad scientist, apparently you're prone to it. Classic example seen [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090821 here.]]
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* In the world of GirlGenius, [[MadScientist Sparks]] will ''often'' fall into this, both protagonists and antagonists. When you're a genetically predetermined genius mad scientist, apparently you're prone to it. Classic example seen [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090821 here.]]

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* Jabba and Boussh in ''ReturnOfTheJedi'':

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* Jabba and Boussh in ''ReturnOfTheJedi'':''ReturnOfTheJedi'' after the latter threatens the former into giving him more money:



** Cut to Boba Fett looking sad.
*** ... how can you tell?
**** Body language.
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'''Strong Bad''': That's just it, Tompkins. You could have stolen ''upwards'' of one Sega tape.\\

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'''Strong Bad''': That's just it, Tompkins. You could have stolen ''upwards'' of one Sega tape.\\

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