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* In ''SuikodenIV'', Snowe is reluctant to stick around after the Pirate Brandeau opens fire on their ship and he's caught in the blast, killing most of the men around him and temporarily paralyzing his arm. The rest of the crew is shocked when he orders a retreat, since that would mean leaving the ship they're escorting to the pirates. Add in how the soldiers ''already'' resented him for being put in charge [[RookieRedRanger despite just graduating]], and the stage was set for one of these.

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* In ''SuikodenIV'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'', Snowe is reluctant to stick around after the Pirate Brandeau opens fire on their ship and he's caught in the blast, killing most of the men around him and temporarily paralyzing his arm. The rest of the crew is shocked when he orders a retreat, since that would mean leaving the ship they're escorting to the pirates. Add in how the soldiers ''already'' resented him for being put in charge [[RookieRedRanger despite just graduating]], and the stage was set for one of these.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' episode "One Last Battle", [[spoiler:it's revealed super tactical droid [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars General Kalani]] received the shutdown command sent from Mustafar to [[KeystoneArmy shut down the droid army]] after Order 66. However, he refused to implement it on himself and the droids under his command because [[ProperlyParanoid he deemed it a Republic trick after calculating the odds of the Separatists winning the war at that point and finding it illogical that they would order a shutdown when, according to his calculations, they stood a good chance of winning the war]].]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' episode "One Last Battle", [[spoiler:it's revealed super tactical droid [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars General Kalani]] received the shutdown command sent from Mustafar to [[KeystoneArmy shut down the droid army]] after Order 66. However, he refused to implement it on himself and the droids under his command because [[ProperlyParanoid he deemed it a Republic trick after calculating the odds of the Separatists winning the war at that point and finding it illogical that they would order a shutdown when, according to his calculations, they stood a good chance of winning the war]].winning]].]]
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' episode "One Last Battle", [[spoiler:it's revealed super tactical droid [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars General Kalani]] received the shutdown command sent from Mustafar to [[KeystoneArmy shut down the droid army]] after Order 66, but refused to implement it on himself and the droids under his command because [[ProperlyParanoid he deemed it a Republic trick after calculating the odds of the Separatists winning the war at that point and finding it illogical that they would order a shutdown when, according to his calculations, they stood a good chance of winning the war]].]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' episode "One Last Battle", [[spoiler:it's revealed super tactical droid [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars General Kalani]] received the shutdown command sent from Mustafar to [[KeystoneArmy shut down the droid army]] after Order 66, but 66. However, he refused to implement it on himself and the droids under his command because [[ProperlyParanoid he deemed it a Republic trick after calculating the odds of the Separatists winning the war at that point and finding it illogical that they would order a shutdown when, according to his calculations, they stood a good chance of winning the war]].]]
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' episode "One Last Battle", [[spoiler:it's revealed super tactical droid [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars General Kalani]] received the shutdown command sent from Mustafar to [[KeystoneArmy shut down the droid army]] after Order 66, but refused to implement it on himself and the droids under his command because [[ProperlyParanoid he deemed it a Republic trick after calculating the odds of the Separatists winning the war at that point and finding it illogical that they would order a shutdown when, according to his calculations, they stood a good chance of winning the war]].]]
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* Fanfic/{{Betastuck}}: Despite not acting the way his programmers expected him to, Doc Scratch was merely fulfilling his purpose to make the necessary preparations for Lord English's arrival.

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* Fanfic/{{Betastuck}}: ''Fanfic/{{Betastuck}}'': Despite not acting the way his programmers expected him to, Doc Scratch was merely fulfilling his purpose to make the necessary preparations for Lord English's arrival.
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** While in the mirror universe, Kirk's actions, giving the planet's populace a chance to reconsider rather than blowing them away for refusing the Empire at all, causes Mirror-Spock to receive orders to kill him and finish the mission as the new captain of the ISS Enterprise. Luckily for Kirk, M-Spock would rather not be such an obvious target and warns him.
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* On ''Series/BlackSails'' things are further complicated by the fact that a pirate captains is elected by the crew and is supposed to act in the best interests of the crew at all times. Thus when members of the crew plot to remove Captain Flint from command they feel their actions are perfectly legitimate since Flint is jeopardizing the lives of the crew to further his own personal goals.

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* On ''Series/BlackSails'' things are further complicated by the fact that a pirate captains captain is elected by the crew and is supposed to act in the best interests of the crew at all times. Thus when members of the crew plot to remove Captain Flint from command they feel their actions are perfectly legitimate since Flint is jeopardizing the lives of the crew to further his own personal goals.
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** Varys and Doran Martell each plot (apparently unrelated) schemes to put a Targaryen back on the Iron Throne. While the Baratheon (or, for the King's Landing faction, "Baratheon") dynasty would consider that treason and rebellion, by the strict laws of succession, first Viserys and then Daenarys are indeed the rightful heirs.

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** Varys and Doran Martell each plot (apparently unrelated) schemes to put a Targaryen back on the Iron Throne. While the Baratheon (or, for the King's Landing faction, "Baratheon") dynasty would consider that treason and rebellion, by the strict laws of succession, first Viserys and then Daenarys Daenerys are indeed the rightful heirs.
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** [[spoiler: Barristan Selmy, the Unsullied and some of the Meereenese]] launching a coup against [[spoiler: Daenerys' husband]] for doing a bad job of ruling in her stead, and possibly [[spoiler:trying to assassinate her.]] In this case, even though he is the legal regent, he has deviated quite a lot from [[spoiler: what Daenerys wanted]], and the conspirators are trying to get things back on track.

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** [[spoiler: Barristan Selmy, the Unsullied and some of the Meereenese]] launching a coup against [[spoiler: Daenerys' Daenerys's husband]] for doing a bad job of ruling in her stead, and possibly [[spoiler:trying to assassinate her.]] In this case, even though he is the legal regent, he has deviated quite a lot from [[spoiler: what Daenerys wanted]], and the conspirators are trying to get things back on track.
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* ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' has a two-part OriginsEpisode for Jesse, in which we discover that she was the first mate on a future-human submarine captained by a reprogrammed Terminator, and that she led an Anti Mutiny against him because she and the rest of the crew wrongly (because he inflexibly refused to tell them the truth about their secret mission) believed that he'd reverted and was betraying them to Skynet.
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* In VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, the relationship between the Outcasts and the Brotherhood of Steel is this. The Brotherhood's mission is to preserve and catalog technology, but the batch that went east decided instead to focus on protecting civilians and killing mutants. The Outcasts broke off to concentrate on the original mission. Neither group is villainous, though the Outcasts tend towards [[JerkAss douchebaggery]], to the point of dropping fingers when killed (a sign for people who took the corresponding perk that the person you just nuked was evil).

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* In VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, the relationship between the Outcasts and the Brotherhood of Steel is this. The Brotherhood's mission is to preserve and catalog technology, but the batch that went east decided instead to focus on protecting civilians and killing mutants. The Outcasts broke off to concentrate on the original mission. Neither group is villainous, though but the Outcasts tend towards [[JerkAss douchebaggery]], to douchebaggery]] and the point of dropping fingers when killed (a sign for people who took game's creation kit tags their CharacterAlignment as Evil (further evidenced by the corresponding perk fact that you'll be rewarded for killing them if you have the person you just nuked was evil).Lawbringer perk).
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* ''Series/TheLastShip'': In "Scuttle", the ''Nathan James'' takes on survivors from another US Navy ship sunk during a mission against the Chinese Navy. Unnerved by Captain Chandler's [[ItsPersonal obsession]] with taking down Chinese [[PresidentEvil President Peng]] and blaming it for the destruction of their ship, the add-ons jump on the opportunity when orders come through from their superiors to relieve Chandler of command. Chandler's crew, suspicious of these orders (with good reason, as they're actually from a GovernmentConspiracy seeking to usurp the federal government's authority), quickly take steps to bloodlessly retake control of the ship.
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** In [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E8TheBattle "The Battle"]], the Ferengi [=DaiMon=] Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok [[BlueAndOrangeMorality for engaging in a non-profitable mission, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards]].

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** In [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E8TheBattle "The Battle"]], the Ferengi [=DaiMon=] Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok [[BlueAndOrangeMorality for engaging in a non-profitable mission, venture, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards]].standards]]. That's the reason Kazago ''gives'', at least; he only acted after Riker presented evidence that Bok was insane.
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* Magneto pulls one of these in the [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} "Age of X"]] storyline; Suspecting that something is not quite right, he rebels against his own rule, sending Shadowcat and Rogue to investigate their situation, and protects them when they are attacked by their former comrades.

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* Magneto pulls one of these in the [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen "Age of X"]] storyline; Suspecting that something is not quite right, he rebels against his own rule, sending Shadowcat and Rogue to investigate their situation, and protects them when they are attacked by their former comrades.
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** Intriguingly, his approval rises when you crushes his mini-coup, since that proved him wrong and you're clearly capable enough to be in charge.

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** Intriguingly, his approval rises when you crushes crush his mini-coup, since that [[MightMakesRight proved him wrong and you're clearly capable enough to be in charge.charge]].
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* ''{{Solatorobo}}'': Captain Grompf of the Kuvasz Guild has to be restrained by his crew after [[BadBoss ordering them to open fire on a transport]] they're supposed to be ''escorting''. A transport that is carrying a number of important documents, and a MacGuffin that Grompf's boss has no doubt gone to a ''lot'' of trouble to acquire.

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* ''{{Solatorobo}}'': ''VideoGame/{{Solatorobo}}'': Captain Grompf of the Kuvasz Guild has to be restrained by his crew after [[BadBoss ordering them to open fire on a transport]] they're supposed to be ''escorting''. A transport that is carrying a number of important documents, and a MacGuffin that Grompf's boss has no doubt gone to a ''lot'' of trouble to acquire.
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* The events of ''TheCaineMutiny'' result in a trial to determine if the eponymous mutiny (Captain Queeg was relieved by his executive officer during a typhoon) was this [[TheMutiny or the other flavor]].

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* The events of ''TheCaineMutiny'' ''Literature/TheCaineMutiny'' result in a trial to determine if the eponymous mutiny (Captain Queeg was relieved by his executive officer during a typhoon) was this [[TheMutiny or the other flavor]].more conventional sort of mutiny]].
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* Auto in ''WesternAnimation/{{WALL-E}}'', who takes over [[CoolSpaceShip The Axiom]] by force [[spoiler: and does not want it to return to Earth]] despite the captain's protests. However, Auto is simply following his [[MegaCorp programming]] and it is the captain who is technically going against the plan.

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* Auto in ''WesternAnimation/{{WALL-E}}'', ''WesternAnimation/WallE'', who takes over [[CoolSpaceShip The Axiom]] by force [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and does not want it to return to Earth]] despite the captain's protests. However, Auto is simply following his [[MegaCorp programming]] and it is the captain who is technically going against the plan.

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** In "The Pegasus" we learn that, while an ensign, Riker attempted to help his then-Captain put down an Anti-Mutiny on the eponymous vessel ([[spoiler: as in Enterprise above, the anti-mutineers were right]]), but when they failed, they were forced to abandon ship together.
** In "The Battle", the Ferengi [=DaiMon=] Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok [[BlueAndOrangeMorality for engaging in a non-profitable mission, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards]].
** In "Conundrum", the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, [[RememberTheNewGuy who isn't Riker but some guy named MacDuff whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and is one of them.

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** In [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS7E11ThePegasus "The Pegasus" Pegasus"]] we learn that, while an ensign, Riker attempted to help his then-Captain put down an Anti-Mutiny on the eponymous vessel ([[spoiler: as in Enterprise ''Enterprise'' above, the anti-mutineers were right]]), but when they failed, they were forced to abandon ship together.
** In [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E8TheBattle "The Battle", Battle"]], the Ferengi [=DaiMon=] Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok [[BlueAndOrangeMorality for engaging in a non-profitable mission, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards]].
** In "Conundrum", [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E14Conundrum "Conundrum"]], the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, [[RememberTheNewGuy who isn't Riker but some guy named MacDuff whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and is one of them.them.
** In [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E6LonelyAmongUs "Lonely Among Us"]], Picard is possessed by an EnergyBeing. The senior officers discuss attempting an anti-mutiny when he abandons the mission at hand, but decide that they do not have enough evidence to legally relieve him of command. When Picard's possession becomes apparent and Dr. Crusher attempts to deem him medically unfit, the EnergyBeing immobilizes the bridge crew long enough to carry out his plan.

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* It could be argued Starbuck falls prey to this in Season 4 of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]''. She began acting increasingly crazy but was still staying within the bounds of her orders, but then unilaterally decided to do something not covered by those orders, an action which meant she and the crew would miss their scheduled rendezvous and/or put all their lives in mortal danger. The crew (bar one) refused to back her. It's difficult to tell who was meant to be in the wrong in this case, though the fact that just after the mutiny and [[spoiler: one poor bastard losing a leg]] she came up with an alternate solution whereby only she was put at risk suggests Starbuck may be more at fault.

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\n* It could be argued Starbuck falls prey to this in Season 4 of ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]''.''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''. She began acting increasingly crazy but was still staying within the bounds of her orders, but then unilaterally decided to do something not covered by those orders, an action which meant she and the crew would miss their scheduled rendezvous and/or put all their lives in mortal danger. The crew (bar one) refused to back her. It's difficult to tell who was meant to be in the wrong in this case, though the fact that just after the mutiny and [[spoiler: one poor bastard losing a leg]] she came up with an alternate solution whereby only she was put at risk suggests Starbuck may be more at fault.
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* In VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, the relationship between the Outcasts and the Brotherhood of Steel is this. The Brotherhood's mission is to preserve and catalog technology, but the batch that went east decided instead to focus on protecting civilians and killing mutants. The Outcasts broke off to concentrate on the original mission. Neither group is villainous, though the Outcasts tend towards [[JerkAss douchebaggery]].

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* In VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, the relationship between the Outcasts and the Brotherhood of Steel is this. The Brotherhood's mission is to preserve and catalog technology, but the batch that went east decided instead to focus on protecting civilians and killing mutants. The Outcasts broke off to concentrate on the original mission. Neither group is villainous, though the Outcasts tend towards [[JerkAss douchebaggery]].douchebaggery]], to the point of dropping fingers when killed (a sign for people who took the corresponding perk that the person you just nuked was evil).
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Non-examples. In every one of those cases it\'s made perfectly clear that Shepard and the person s/he\'s rebelling against have different goals, which is not this trope.


* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': When [[AssInAmbassador Udina]] sees it as problematic for you to continue trying to save all intelligent life with your CoolShip.
** This becomes kind of a theme; in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' Shepard pulls a similar stunt against the Illusive Man, stealing the ''Normandy SR-2'' from Cerberus. In neither case does the crew do much to object, despite the fact that the SR-2's crew in particular ''are Cerberus operatives''; this is brought up a few times in the sequel as evidence of Shepard's [[MagneticHero magnetic charisma]]. Notably, to forestall this in the third game, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Admiral Hackett]] gives Shepard permission in advance to do whatever it takes, however bizarre, to bring about an allied victory.
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** In "Conundrum", the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, [=MacDuff=], [[RememberTheNewGuy who isn't Riker but someone else whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and is one of them.

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** In "Conundrum", the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, [=MacDuff=], [[RememberTheNewGuy who isn't Riker but someone else some guy named MacDuff whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and is one of them.

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TheCaptain may try to BringThemAround, either before the mutiny, or while it is occurring; it can be interesting, since he can no longer rely on his authority as a captain, which they regard as forfeited by his acts. Gross misconduct by the captain of a ship is legally known as ''barratry;'' the response is often an Anti-Mutiny.

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TheCaptain may try to BringThemAround, either before the mutiny, or while it is occurring; it can be interesting, since he can no longer rely on his authority as a captain, which they regard as forfeited by his acts. Gross acts.

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misconduct by the captain of a ship is legally known as ''barratry;'' ''barratry'' (not to be confused with civilian barratry); the response is often an Anti-Mutiny.
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** In the episode "Pegasus" we learn that, while an ensign, Riker attempted to help his then-Captain put down an Anti-Mutiny on the eponymous vessel ([[spoiler: as in Enterprise above, the anti-mutineers were right]]), but when they failed, they were forced to abandon ship together.
** In another TNG episode, a Ferengi named Daimon Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok for engaging in a non-profitable mission, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards.
** In another, the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, who [[RememberTheNewGuy isn't Riker but someone else whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and the new guy is one of them.

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** In the episode "Pegasus" "The Pegasus" we learn that, while an ensign, Riker attempted to help his then-Captain put down an Anti-Mutiny on the eponymous vessel ([[spoiler: as in Enterprise above, the anti-mutineers were right]]), but when they failed, they were forced to abandon ship together.
** In another TNG episode, a "The Battle", the Ferengi named Daimon [=DaiMon=] Bok engages in a mission of personal vendetta against Picard for [[spoiler:killing his son in battle years before]]. [[NumberTwo Riker]] tries to get Kazago, Bok's second-in-command, to stop Bok. Eventually, Kazago arrests Bok [[BlueAndOrangeMorality for engaging in a non-profitable mission, a heinous crime by Ferengi standards.
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** In another, "Conundrum", the crew get amnesia. They find out from the computer that they're at war with another race and are being sent to attack their homeworld. After easily penetrating the "enemy"'s defenses Picard decides that there's something wrong, since a war against this species would've been over in about 5 minutes instead of the years the computer tells them. Picard's second in command, who [=MacDuff=], [[RememberTheNewGuy who isn't Riker but someone else whom we've never seen before]], tries to force the rest of the crew into obeying their original orders. It turns out of course that a third race, which is at war with the second, had orchestrated the events and the new guy is one of them.
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* ''[[Literature/ASongOFIceAndFire A Dance With Dragons]]'' features two of them, on the opposite ends of the sympathy scale:

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** Varys and Doran Martell each plot (apparently unrelated) schemes to put a Targaryen back on the Iron Throne. While the Baratheon (or, for the King's Landing faction, "Baratheon") dynasty would consider that treason and rebellion, by the strict laws of succession, first Viserys and then Daenarys are indeed the rightful heirs.
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It was the straw that broke the camel\'s back. Jon had shown no sign of being capable of being dissuaded from any course of action, several of which had already been strongly opposed.


** [[spoiler: Bowen Marsh and several other members of the Night's Watch stabbing Jon Snow for allying with wildlings and for forswearing his vows to go save his sister (actually Jeyne Poole) and kill Ramsay Bolton]]. Notably, whether or not [[spoiler: Jon Snow really]] meets the criteria of "forsaking the original mission" is debatable. He did not truly break his vows (but distanced himself a lot from their usual interpretation), and his reforms all had sound reasoning, until he decided to [[spoiler:go in a campaign against Ramsay]], effectively breaking his vows. Why the Watch doesn't just [[FridgeLogic try and dissuade him from doing so instead of instantly revolting]] is up for debate.

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** [[spoiler: Bowen Marsh and several other members of the Night's Watch stabbing Jon Snow for allying with wildlings and for forswearing his vows to go save his sister (actually Jeyne Poole) and kill Ramsay Bolton]]. Notably, whether or not [[spoiler: Jon Snow really]] meets the criteria of "forsaking the original mission" is debatable. He did not truly break his vows (but distanced himself a lot from their usual interpretation), and his reforms all had sound reasoning, until he decided to [[spoiler:go in a campaign against Ramsay]], effectively breaking his vows. Why the Watch doesn't just [[FridgeLogic try and dissuade him from doing so instead of instantly revolting]] is up for debate.
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** More than a bit of UnfortunateImplications in this example, as Archer makes sense for 3/4 of the episode before going off the rails. It's pointed out that if it was any other Xindi faction there'd be a lot more issues with abandoning children to drift in space without power.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Double Dipper", Dipper uses a magic photocopier to duplicate himself several times over as part of a [[ComplexityAddiction needlessly-complicated scheme]] to ask Wendy to dance with him. When Dipper has an epiphany and tries to abandon the plan, his clones rebel and lock him in the closet so he doesn't "interfere" with his own scheme.
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