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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': While the forces of [[LawfulEvil Law]] and [[ChaoticEvil Chaos]] are both [[EvilVersusEvil pretty damn repellent]], sometimes one side just makes a better argument about their ideals, or [[EvenEvilHasStandards has at least a few standards]], and that side is [[DependingOnTheWriter usually]] Chaos. That's right, the side led by ''[[{{Satan}} Lucifer]]''. Fundamentally, Chaos holds [[TheUnfettered free will as an imperative]], unlike Law's [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans worldview that people should accept whatever fate they're given, however horrible]]. [[VideoGame/StrangeJourney Lucifer himself admits that while he doesn't love humans, he'll never abandon them.]]
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* In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', Sir George vs Diagon. George might be a [[FantasticRacism anti-alien]] KnightTemplar leading a whole faction of CapeBusters, but he is still better than the [[MindRape Mind-Raping]], MultiversalConqueror EldritchAbomination that is Diagon.
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* Casual racism pops up quite a bit in ''SonsOfAnarchy'', which is probably why the gang ends up fighting ''actual'' white supremacists. The blue collar, decidedly Un-PC Sons seem like paragons of liberal virtue in comparison to the brutal, bloodthirsty skinheads they battle throughout Season 2.
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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGate 2'' you are given the choice between supporting the [[TheSyndicate Shadow Thieves]], a thieves' guild you've probably already done some sidequests for, and a rival guild led by a lady called Bodhi that contains vampires that attack people in the streets at night. If you visit their guildhalls neither of them seem terribly 'good', but at least the Shadow Thieves don't decorate with giant pools of human blood and fill their halls with mindless thralls they feed on.
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** ''MobileSuitGundamZZ'' spoiler: [[spoiler:[[InvokedTrope Invoked]] by [[BigBad Haman Khan]] as she tries to [[EnemyMine convince Judau to ally with her]] against [[TheStarscream Glemmy Toto]]. Haman explains that she's just a conqueror who doesn't believe in the Zabi name she's using as a flag, but Glemmy does, and Glemmy will drown the Earth Sphere in blood because of it. [[ShutUpHannibal Judau doesn't buy it]]; as far as he can tell, Haman and Glemmy are exactly the same, and he's not going to pick one above the other.]]

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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. People just ''do'' like having someone to cheer for. But if both sides are equally reprehensible, there's really no point to it.

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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. People DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: people just ''do'' like having someone to cheer for. But for; but, if both sides are equally reprehensible, then there's really no point to it.
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* ''{{Franchise/Spider-man}}'': During Venom's transformation into an an anti-hero in the nineties, readers were introduced Carnage, Venom's [[EvilCounterpart eviler counterpart]].

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* ''{{Franchise/Spider-man}}'': During Venom's transformation into an an anti-hero in the nineties, readers were introduced to Carnage, Venom's [[EvilCounterpart eviler counterpart]].
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* ''{{Franchise/Spider-man}}'': During Venom's transformation into an an anti-hero in the nineties readers were introduced Carnage, Venom's [[EvilCounterpart eviler counterpart]].

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* ''{{Franchise/Spider-man}}'': During Venom's transformation into an an anti-hero in the nineties nineties, readers were introduced Carnage, Venom's [[EvilCounterpart eviler counterpart]].
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* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem and [[CompleteMonster irredeemable bastards]], Snow is portrayed as a slightly better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who was responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]

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* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem and [[CompleteMonster irredeemable bastards]], bastards, Snow is portrayed as a slightly better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who was responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]
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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. People just DO like having someone to cheer for. But if both sides are equally reprehensible, there's really no point to it.

So that's where this trope kicks in. It basically means that the author is clearly trying to portray one side of the conflict as the better or more symphathetic one, so the audience can root for them. Since both sides are supposed to be villains, this isn't that hard. You just need to give your Lighter Black a little edge on the sympathy meter. The idea is to have the audience say "Yeah, Alice may be evil, but at least she's not half as bad as Bob!"

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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. People just DO ''do'' like having someone to cheer for. But if both sides are equally reprehensible, there's really no point to it.

So that's where this trope kicks in. It basically means that the author is clearly trying to portray one side of the conflict as the better or more symphathetic sympathetic one, so the audience can root for them. Since both sides are supposed to be villains, this isn't that hard. You just need to give your Lighter Black a little edge on the sympathy meter. The idea is to have the audience say "Yeah, Alice may be evil, but at least she's not half as bad as Bob!"



Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially if their opposition is [[EvilVersusOblivion a threat to]] ''[[EvilVersusOblivion everyone]]''.

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Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially if their opposition is [[EvilVersusOblivion a threat to]] ''[[EvilVersusOblivion everyone]]''.
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* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem, Snow is portrayed as a better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who are responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]

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* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem, Panem and [[CompleteMonster irredeemable bastards]], Snow is portrayed as a slightly better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who are was responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]
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* The Parker novels by Richard Stark sometimes uses this. Parker, is a VillianProtagonist, is about as an amoral thief. However, he is pragmatic. He would kill to get what he wants, but he would not do it if it was unnessecary because he knows that the police put more effort in hunting murderers than thieves. Some books like The Sour Lemon Score or Deadly Edge, put him against complete psychos who rape and kill on a whim.
* Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem, Snow is portrayed as a better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who are responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]

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* The Parker novels by Richard Stark sometimes uses this. Parker, is a VillianProtagonist, VillainProtagonist, is about as an amoral thief. However, he is pragmatic. He would kill to get what he wants, but he would not do it if it was unnessecary unnecessary because he knows that the police put more effort in hunting murderers than thieves. Some books like The Sour Lemon Score or Deadly Edge, put him against complete psychos who rape and kill on a whim.
* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem, Snow is portrayed as a better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who are responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]
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* In ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' while {{Magneto}} is often portrayed as a ruthless villain, he wanted to [[WellIntentionedExtremist create a better world for mutantkind free from]] [[FantasticRacism human discrimination and persecution]]. This is a stark contrast to many other X-Men villains such as Sebastian Shaw, William Stryker, and Apocalypse; where these villains have more selfish purposes (and in the case of Stryker, genocide against mutants). And of course there is Magneto's [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgust on the]] RedSkull [[note]]The fact that the Red Skull is a Nazi who participated in the Holocaust while Magneto is a Jewish Holocaust survivor makes Magneto even more sympathetic[[/note]].




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* Despite both President Snow and Alma Coin being power hungry villains who want to control Panem, Snow is portrayed as a better person than Coin due to the fact that he [[IGaveMyWord he always keeps his promise]] and [[VillainsNeverLie he will never lie]] to Katniss as opposed to Coin who is willing to lie and cheat in order to hold power. [[spoiler: This clue led Katniss to realize that it was ''Coin'', not President Snow, who are responsible for Prim's death and the bombing of the Capitol's children.]]
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* ''MobileSuitGundam'''s [[TheBaroness Kycilia Zabi]] is a fascist dictator who holds that WeHaveReserves and once left a group of her own men buried alive in a collapsing mine. That said, she's not quite as awful as her older brother, [[TheEvilPrince Gihren]], a [[TheSociopath psychopath]] who aims to reduce the population of Earth to less than a billion and who murders [[spoiler:[[{{Patricide}} their father]]]] with a WaveMotionGun. This makes it possible, if just, to root for her as the two of them manouvere for position in the Zeon hierarchy.
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* The Parker novels by Richard Stark sometimes uses this. Parker, is a VillianProtagonist, is about as an amoral thief. However, he is pragmatic. He would kill to get what he wants, but he would not do it if it was unnessecary because he knows that the police put more effort in hunting murderers than thieves. Some books like The Sour Lemon Score or Deadly Edge, put him against complete psychos who rape and kill on a whim.
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* SweeneyTodd is a murderous barber who slashes his customers' throats and has them baked into pies. But in ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', we root for him because he wants revenge against the corrupt HangingJudge who falsely transported him for life in order to get at his beautiful wife, as well as having some rather [[WifeHusbandry skeevy designs]] on his daughter when she comes of age.

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* SweeneyTodd Sweeney Todd is a murderous barber who slashes his customers' throats and has them baked into pies. But in ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', we root for him because he wants revenge against the corrupt HangingJudge who falsely transported him for life in order to get at his beautiful wife, as well as having some rather [[WifeHusbandry skeevy designs]] on his daughter when she comes of age.
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Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially when their enemy is an EldritchAbomination or somesuch.

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Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially when if their enemy opposition is an EldritchAbomination or somesuch.
[[EvilVersusOblivion a threat to]] ''[[EvilVersusOblivion everyone]]''.
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retgone}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retgone}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.

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* In the ''Film/AlienVsPredator'' movies, the Predators are this to the Aliens. In the first movie, not only does this lead to an EnemyMine situation where the last surviving human character teams up with the last surviving Predator, but it's made abundantly clear that the Predators are ''by far'' the lesser threat, as the Aliens will cause global extinction if they reach civilization (which, as many of noted, [[TrailersAlwaysLie invalidates the famous tagline]] [[BlackAndBlackMorality "Whoever wins... we lose"]]). The second film is a bit better about this trope, with the Predator gruesomely killing a fair number of people without an EnemyMine in sight, but to the humans, it remains a significantly smaller problem than the Alien swarm in addition to the many EvilVirtues of [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy its species]].

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retcon}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retcon}} [[{{Retgone}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.
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* In ''BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retcon}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.

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* In ''BlazBlue'' ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retcon}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.
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* By the third season of ''Series/BoardwalkEmpire'', VillainProtagonist Nucky Thompson had [[TakeALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]] and embraced his role as a gangster to a degree that he was no longer clearly the Gray in the BlackAndGrayMorality framework. So, he was given an opponent in Gyp Rosetti, a brutal sociopath with a HairTriggerTemper, against whom Nucky looks like a saint in comparison.

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* VideoGame/{{Drakengard}}. Among your plucky group of heroes are an {{Ax Crazy}} mute soldier whose sister loves him more than is socially acceptable, a vicious red dragon, a batshit crazy elf who eats children, a blind pedophile, and a child cursed to never grow up. However, they're care bears compared to the Grotesqueries, hideous {{Humanoid Abomination}} who wish to unmake creation through the efforts of their possessed minion Manah, a six year old girl who delights in ruining lives left and right because her mommy never loved her enough.

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* In ''BlazBlue'' we have the BigBadDuumvirate, [[ArchNemesisDad Relius]] [[MadScientist Clover]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]] / [[AxCrazy Terumi]] [[{{Troll}} Yuuki]]. Both of them are {{Complete Monster}}s extraordinaire, seemingly caught in a "How far beyond the MoralEventHorizon can you go" contest, but despite the fact that they are pretty much evenly matched as far as accomplishments go, Relius is still a lighter shade of black than Hazama is. First and foremost because most of his atrocities were committed in order to [[ForScience satiate his own scientific curiosoty]], and secondly because he is [[PragmaticVillainy pretty pragmatic in his villainy]]. Compare to Hazama who [[CardCarryingVillain doesn't even pretend]] [[ForTheEvulz to have a rationalization]] for all the shit he does and often goes out of his way to ruin people's lives JUST BECAUSE... His behavior is sort of [[JustifiedTrope justified]], though, because Hazama/Terumi avoids getting [[{{Retcon}} erased from reality]] by anchoring his own existence in the world [[GodNeedsPrayerBadly through people's hatred of him]]. It's ultimately DoubleSubverted, though, because he really ''does'' get off on pushing people beyond the DespairEventHorizon. The fact that there are good reasons to suspect he's the 'verse's own take on {{Satan}} doesn't help his case, either.
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Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially when their enemy is an EldritchAbomination, CompleteMonster or somesuch.

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Or maybe the villain is such a MagnificentBastard with many a CrowningMomentOfAwesome (or generally just damn [[EvilIsCool cool]]) that it's way easier to side with them. Especially when their enemy is an EldritchAbomination, CompleteMonster EldritchAbomination or somesuch.
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* {{Drakengard}}. Among your plucky group of heroes are an {{Ax Crazy}} mute soldier whose sister loves him more than is socially acceptable, a vicious red dragon, a batshit crazy elf who eats children, a blind pedophile, and a child cursed to never grow up. However, they're care bears compared to the Grotesqueries, hideous {{Humanoid Abomination}} who wish to unmake creation through the efforts of their possessed minion Manah, a six year old girl who delights in ruining lives left and right because her mommy never loved her enough.

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* {{Drakengard}}.VideoGame/{{Drakengard}}. Among your plucky group of heroes are an {{Ax Crazy}} mute soldier whose sister loves him more than is socially acceptable, a vicious red dragon, a batshit crazy elf who eats children, a blind pedophile, and a child cursed to never grow up. However, they're care bears compared to the Grotesqueries, hideous {{Humanoid Abomination}} who wish to unmake creation through the efforts of their possessed minion Manah, a six year old girl who delights in ruining lives left and right because her mommy never loved her enough.
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': Part of Heaven's Feel seems to be solely dedicated to making the players like Kotomine more, with several EnemyMine and PetTheDog situations and most importantly, an utterly epic fight where he holds his own against Matou Zoken and his Servant quite well.
** This is tied in to the point of that route and arguably to one of the overarching points of the entire game as well. FSN's three routes take different approaches to morality as seen through the eyes of the main character; in Fate, Kotomine is portrayed as fairly simplistic with no motives beyond EvilFeelsGood, and in Unlimited Blade Works he takes a backseat to the conflict between Shirou and Archer. Only Heaven's Feel fleshes him out at all, but in doing so it makes him into a much more complex character than when he was portrayed in simple black and white terms.

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': Part of Heaven's Feel "Heaven's Feel" seems to be solely dedicated to making the players like Kotomine more, with several EnemyMine and PetTheDog situations and most importantly, an utterly epic fight where he holds his own against Matou Zoken and his Servant quite well.
** This is tied in to the point of that route and arguably to one of the overarching points of the entire game as
well. FSN's three routes take different approaches to morality as seen through the eyes of the main character; in Fate, In "Fate", Kotomine is portrayed as fairly simplistic with no motives beyond EvilFeelsGood, and in Unlimited Blade Works he takes a backseat to the conflict between Shirou and Archer. Only Heaven's Feel "Heaven's Feel" fleshes him out at all, but in doing so it makes him into a much more complex character than when he was portrayed in simple black and white terms.

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