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* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'': While [[Characters/TheOwlHouseTheCollector the Collector]] is incredibly powerful and dangerous, unlike Belos, he is willing to keep the people of the Boiling Isles alive, if only because he wants playmates. He's not truly malicious so much as having BlueAndOrangeMorality.
** He is also this to The Archivists. Despite them also dealing in BlueAndOrangeMorality (making him a Lighter Shade of Orange?), they would completely wipe out any species that refused to be collected, while the younger sibling just wanted to play his rather dangerous and destructive games instead- both of them were potentially mortal danger, The Collector would only accidentally hurt other beings because he sees them as toys.
** He is also this to The Archivists. Despite them also dealing in BlueAndOrangeMorality (making him a Lighter Shade of Orange?), they would completely wipe out any species that refused to be collected, while the younger sibling just wanted to play his rather dangerous and destructive games instead- both of them were potentially mortal danger, The Collector would only accidentally hurt other beings because he sees them as toys.
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* ''WesternAnimation/SuicideSquadHellToPay'', more prominently in the tie-in sequel comics, have Amanda Waller as this. Amanda Waller is far from a heroic, pleasant, or likeable individual, but the comic points out quite clearly she had done good things. Meanwhile the two she's competing with for the [[spoiler:Get Out of Hell Free Card]], ''ComicBook/VandalSavage'' and [[Franchise/TheFlash Reverse-Flash]], are complete monsters with no redeeming features or good actions to their names.
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* ''WesternAnimation/SuicideSquadHellToPay'', more prominently in the tie-in sequel comics, have Amanda Waller as this. Amanda Waller is far from a heroic, pleasant, or likeable individual, but the comic points out quite clearly she had done good things. Meanwhile the two she's competing with for the [[spoiler:Get Out of Hell Free Card]], ''ComicBook/VandalSavage'' and [[Franchise/TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Reverse-Flash]], are complete monsters with no redeeming features or good actions to their names.
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** Norsca as depicted in ''VideoGame/TotalWarWarhammer'' is lighter than the Beastmen and the Warriors of Chaos. Bloodthirsty warriors of the Dark Gods who nevertheless abide by a certain code of honour and possess a dark humour that prevents them from becoming utterly terrifying. In addition, the Norscans have the option of [[EvilerThanThou turning on Archaeon the Everchosen]] and [[NiceJobFixingItVillain potentially averting the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt End Times]].
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** Norsca as The Norscans is usually depicted in ''VideoGame/TotalWarWarhammer'' is lighter than as the least far gone of the major Chaos tribal groups, and thus not quite as bad as the Beastmen and the other Chaos Warriors of Chaos. Bloodthirsty such as the Kurgans and the Hung. They're bloodthirsty warriors of the Dark Gods who nevertheless abide by a certain code of honour and possess a dark humour that prevents them from becoming utterly terrifying. In addition, Additionally, while the other groups live for absolutely nothing but fighting, killing, and slaving, Norscan explorers are a recurring theme in the setting, and there is occasional mention of Norscans have the option of [[EvilerThanThou turning on Archaeon the Everchosen]] being willing to work as mercenaries and [[NiceJobFixingItVillain potentially averting the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt End Times]].even traders.
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', the triple-A MegaCorp Horizon (which appeared in 4th edition onwards) is a world-dominating mega corp that has a completely flat and transparent corporate structure, an extremely cheerful and public CEO, and focus on 'benign' industries like Public Relations and pharmaceuticals. Rather than make them the 'good guys' of the setting, this has made them ParanoiaFuel; Shadowrunners are usually extremely smart (they don't live long if they aren't), and the concept of a Mega with no skeletons in the closet that actually ''cares'' is scarier than eight of the other open [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] on the Corporate Court combined, because this only means they must be hiding something utterly depraved in there ''somewhere''... but nobody knows what it is. (They're still not as scary as [[TheDreaded Aztechnology]], though.) [[spoiler:Turns out it's metahuman experimentation on Technomancers.]]
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'': The triple-A MegaCorp Horizon (which appeared in 4th edition onwards) is a world-dominating mega corp that has a completely flat and transparent corporate structure, an extremely cheerful and public CEO, and focus on 'benign' industries like Public Relations and pharmaceuticals. Rather than make them the 'good guys' of the setting, this has made them ParanoiaFuel; Shadowrunners are usually extremely smart (they don't live long if they aren't), and the concept of a Mega with no skeletons in the closet that actually ''cares'' is scarier than eight of the other open [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] on the Corporate Court combined, because this only means they must be hiding something utterly depraved in there ''somewhere''... but nobody knows what it is. (They're still not as scary as [[TheDreaded Aztechnology]], though.) [[spoiler:Turns out it's metahuman experimentation on Technomancers.]]
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* In the season five finale of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', Twilight sees a number of alternate timelines where the villains won and it turns out that, while not ''good'' in any sense of the word, Nightmare Moon's reign is [[TheNightThatNeverEnds ironically]] this. King Sombra turns all his subjects into mindless slaves, Chrysalis treats Equestria's populace as prey, Tirek just destroys everything, and Discord creates a WorldOfChaos. Nightmare Moon, by contrast, rules over an Equestria that's swept in eternal night and while her kingdom is certainly tyrannical and authoritarian, it ''is'' a functioning kingdom where ponies are able to live their night-to-night lives.
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* In the season five finale of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', Twilight sees a number of alternate timelines where the villains won and it turns out that, while not ''good'' in any sense of the word, Nightmare Moon's reign is [[TheNightThatNeverEnds ironically]] this. King Sombra turns all his subjects into mindless slaves, Chrysalis treats Equestria's populace as prey, Tirek just destroys everything, and Discord creates a WorldOfChaos. Nightmare Moon, by contrast, rules over an Equestria that's swept in eternal night and while her kingdom is certainly tyrannical and authoritarian, it ''is'' a functioning kingdom where ponies are able to live their night-to-night lives.lives in peace.
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* ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'' does this with Harley and her friends. They're ever so slightly nicer than their enemies, which makes it possible to root for them. Harley herself is still a CardCarryingVillain who wants nothing more than to be invited to join the Legion of Doom, but she at least gets the benefit of a sympathetic backstory and isn't as extreme in her evil acts as the Joker.
* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and its SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', Maul is certainly not a good person, what with his desire for revenge on Obi-Wan and his general lack of morals. However, he is also given some tragic elements to his character and a somewhat humanizing relationship with Savage Opress and Ezra Bridger. This places sympathy on his side when he gets into conflict with his former master Darth Sidious, a total sociopath motivated only by selfish lust for power.
* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and its SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', Maul is certainly not a good person, what with his desire for revenge on Obi-Wan and his general lack of morals. However, he is also given some tragic elements to his character and a somewhat humanizing relationship with Savage Opress and Ezra Bridger. This places sympathy on his side when he gets into conflict with his former master Darth Sidious, a total sociopath motivated only by selfish lust for power.
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* ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'' does this with Harley [[Characters/HarleyQuinn2019TheCharacter Harley]] and [[Characters/HarleyQuinn2019HarleysCrew her friends.friends]]. They're ever so slightly nicer than their enemies, which makes it possible to root for them. Harley herself is still a CardCarryingVillain who wants nothing more than to be invited to join the Legion of Doom, but she at least gets the benefit of a sympathetic backstory and isn't as extreme in her evil acts as the Joker.
* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': [[Characters/RickAndMortyEvilMorty Evil Morty]] is this compared to Rick Prime. Evil Morty may have committed his fair share of atrocities, but they were all done to find a way to get away from Rick’s influence for good and decide to no longer be a threat to our Rick and Morty once he [[TheBadGuyWins accomplishes his goal]]. Rick Prime, on the other hand, committed all of his atrocities out of sheer [[EvilIsPetty pettiness]], having wiped out every single version of Rick’s wife from existence and was about to do the same with the rest of Rick’s loved ones, all because Rick rejected his offer to explore the multiverse with him.
* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and its SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'',Maul [[Characters/StarWarsDarthMaul Darth Maul]] is certainly not a good person, what with his desire for revenge on Obi-Wan and his general lack of morals. However, he is also given some tragic elements to his character and a somewhat humanizing relationship with Savage Opress and Ezra Bridger. This places sympathy on his side when he gets into conflict with his former master [[Characters/StarWarsEmperorPalpatine Darth Sidious, Sidious]], a total sociopath motivated only by selfish lust for power.
* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': [[Characters/RickAndMortyEvilMorty Evil Morty]] is this compared to Rick Prime. Evil Morty may have committed his fair share of atrocities, but they were all done to find a way to get away from Rick’s influence for good and decide to no longer be a threat to our Rick and Morty once he [[TheBadGuyWins accomplishes his goal]]. Rick Prime, on the other hand, committed all of his atrocities out of sheer [[EvilIsPetty pettiness]], having wiped out every single version of Rick’s wife from existence and was about to do the same with the rest of Rick’s loved ones, all because Rick rejected his offer to explore the multiverse with him.
* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and its SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'',
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* ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}: Monokuma, [[spoiler:controlled by Junko in the main saga]] and [[spoiler:Team Danganronpa & Tsumugi in the retool]], are plainly evil and sadistic with nothing to really redeem them of it, but there are other villainous characters who have a sense of morality or a reason for their actions.
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* ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}: Monokuma, [[spoiler:controlled by Junko in the main saga]] and [[spoiler:Team Danganronpa & Tsumugi in the retool]], are plainly evil and sadistic with nothing to really redeem them of it, but there are other villainous characters who have a sense of morality or a reason for their actions.
** Every murder culprit serves as an antagonist within each chapter, but they either have a Duress defense or are lesser of an evil by comparison in some way that makes them seem more humane than the BigBad, this including [[spoiler:Korekiyo, who despite everything is at least not a killing game mastermind]], and someone like [[spoiler:Kokichi, who is marginally driven by the fact that he's in a killing game in the first place and would otherwise not go to those extremes in different circumstances.]]
** [[spoiler:While Mukuro Ikusaba]] is Junko's assistant, [[spoiler:she is driven by a familial love (that isn't returned) than the actual drive for despair, and unlike Junko, is capable of caring about others ''without'' using that to sate her own evil desires. However, she also cares little about the amorality of Junko's desires in the process, and willingly gives into Junko's every desire.]]
** In the second game, [[spoiler:Nagito is a WellIntentionedExtremist who desires to spread hope]], and [[spoiler:Izuru Kamukura is a TragicVillain who is bored of the world around him and had his inhibitions forcibly removed by Hope's Peak Academy, and Junko taking advantage of him led to a burning desire for revenge, which comes up in the form of the second game's events.]]
** Dowplayed, as it's not much lighter by comparison, but even [[spoiler:Monaca, despite being a HateSink, has a FreudianExcuse for her behavior]], which is no thanks to Haiji, and Haiji himself is mostly driven by his trauma, though it doesn't excuse his awful misdeeds throughout his feature game.
** In ''Side:Future'', [[spoiler:Kazuo Tengan is a KnightTemplar who genuinely believes brainwashing the world will save it from despair, and Chisa Yukizome is a NiceGirl who was [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed by Junko]] to be a SycophanticServant of despair.]]
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* ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}: Monokuma, [[spoiler:controlled by Junko in the main saga]] and [[spoiler:Team Danganronpa & Tsumugi in the retool]], are plainly evil and sadistic with nothing to really redeem them of it, but there are other villainous characters who have a sense of morality or a reason for their actions.
** Every murder culprit serves as an antagonist within each chapter, but they either have a Duress defense or are lesser of an evil by comparison in some way that makes them seem more humane than the BigBad, this including [[spoiler:Korekiyo, who despite everything is at least not a killing game mastermind]], and someone like [[spoiler:Kokichi, who is marginally driven by the fact that he's in a killing game in the first place and would otherwise not go to those extremes in different circumstances.]]
** [[spoiler:While Mukuro Ikusaba]] is Junko's assistant, [[spoiler:she is driven by a familial love (that isn't returned) than the actual drive for despair, and unlike Junko, is capable of caring about others ''without'' using that to sate her own evil desires. However, she also cares little about the amorality of Junko's desires in the process, and willingly gives into Junko's every desire.]]
** In the second game, [[spoiler:Nagito is a WellIntentionedExtremist who desires to spread hope]], and [[spoiler:Izuru Kamukura is a TragicVillain who is bored of the world around him and had his inhibitions forcibly removed by Hope's Peak Academy, and Junko taking advantage of him led to a burning desire for revenge, which comes up in the form of the second game's events.]]
** Dowplayed, as it's not much lighter by comparison, but even [[spoiler:Monaca, despite being a HateSink, has a FreudianExcuse for her behavior]], which is no thanks to Haiji, and Haiji himself is mostly driven by his trauma, though it doesn't excuse his awful misdeeds throughout his feature game.
** In ''Side:Future'', [[spoiler:Kazuo Tengan is a KnightTemplar who genuinely believes brainwashing the world will save it from despair, and Chisa Yukizome is a NiceGirl who was [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed by Junko]] to be a SycophanticServant of despair.]]
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** "[[ComicBook/{{Venom}} Carnage]] VS [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]": Lucy is the lighter shade. Whereas Cletus is TheSociopath and a CardCarryingVillain who kills [[ForTheEvulz simply for the fun of it]], Lucy is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with an ''extremely'' DarkAndTroubledPast whose character arc is based around developing from a VillainProtagonist to an AntiHero. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Lucy's victory]].
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** "[[ComicBook/{{Venom}} Carnage]] VS [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]": Lucy is the lighter shade. Whereas Cletus is TheSociopath and a CardCarryingVillain who kills [[ForTheEvulz simply for the fun of it]], Lucy is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with an ''extremely'' DarkAndTroubledPast whose character arc is based around developing from a VillainProtagonist to an AntiHero. Also, Cletus [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals killed a dog as a kid]] while Lucy's StartOfDarkness was triggered by [[KidsAreCruel kids killing a dog]]. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Lucy's victory]].
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** "ComicBook/{{Galactus}} VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Unicron]]": Galactus is the lighter shade. Both are {{Planet Eater}}s, but Galactus consumes planets because they are simply what he must eat to sustain himself, no different to how humans eat plants and other animals to live. On the other hand, Unicron consumes planets out of a malevolent desire to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all life in the multiverse]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Galactus ends the fight as the victor]].
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Do not confuse this trope with LesserOfTwoEvils, in which case, there still isn't a side to root for. Those stories usually involve a hero's P.O.V. and he's observing the two villains fighting each other. Also not to be confused with SympatheticVillainDespicableVillain, where the sympathetic party is unlikely to still be unambiguously evil.
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** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Frieza]] VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]]": Megatron is the lighter shade. Both are utterly ruthless galactic conquerors who set out to bring the cosmos to its knees, but whereas Megatron, [[MotiveDecay at first]], advocated for peace and [[WellIntentionedExtremist only fought for the freedom of his people]] from an unfair caste system before descending into full-blown tyranny and waging war for war's sake, Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of. [[spoiler:In the end, Frieza destroys his opponent, but not before Megatron destroys his mothership, his army, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe most of his body]], and [[PyrrhicVictory denies him his conquest of Cybertron itself with its destruction]]. Frieza decides [[FinalSolution to wipe out all Cybertronians]] in retaliation.]]
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** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Frieza]] VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]]": Megatron is the lighter shade. Both are utterly ruthless galactic conquerors who set out to bring the cosmos to its knees, but whereas Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of, Megatron, [[MotiveDecay at first]], advocated for peace and [[WellIntentionedExtremist only fought for the freedom of his people]] from an unfair caste system before descending into full-blown tyranny and waging war for war's sake, Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of.sake. [[spoiler:In the end, Frieza destroys his opponent, but not before Megatron destroys his mothership, his army, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe most of his body]], and [[PyrrhicVictory denies him his conquest of Cybertron itself with its destruction]]. Frieza decides [[FinalSolution to wipe out all Cybertronians]] in retaliation.]]retaliation]].
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** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Frieza]] VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]]": Megatron is the lighter shade. Both are utterly ruthless galactic conquerors who set out to bring the cosmos to its knees, but whereas Megatron, [[MotiveDecay at first]], advocated for peace and [[WellIntentionedExtremist only fought for the freedom of his people]] from an unfair caste system before descending into full-blown tyranny and waging war for war's sake, Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of. [[spoiler:In the end, Frieza destroys his opponent, but not before Megatron destroys his mothership, his army, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe most of his body]], and [[PyrrhicVictory denies him his conquest of Cybertron itself with its destruction]].]]
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** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Frieza]] VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]]": Megatron is the lighter shade. Both are utterly ruthless galactic conquerors who set out to bring the cosmos to its knees, but whereas Megatron, [[MotiveDecay at first]], advocated for peace and [[WellIntentionedExtremist only fought for the freedom of his people]] from an unfair caste system before descending into full-blown tyranny and waging war for war's sake, Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of. [[spoiler:In the end, Frieza destroys his opponent, but not before Megatron destroys his mothership, his army, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe most of his body]], and [[PyrrhicVictory denies him his conquest of Cybertron itself with its destruction]]. Frieza decides [[FinalSolution to wipe out all Cybertronians]] in retaliation.]]
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** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Frieza]] VS [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]]": Megatron is the lighter shade. Both are utterly ruthless galactic conquerors who set out to bring the cosmos to its knees, but whereas Megatron, [[MotiveDecay at first]], advocated for peace and [[WellIntentionedExtremist only fought for the freedom of his people]] from an unfair caste system before descending into full-blown tyranny and waging war for war's sake, Frieza is a sadistic and pampered tyrant through-and-through, with no sympathetic backstory to speak of. [[spoiler:In the end, Frieza destroys his opponent, but not before Megatron destroys his mothership, his army, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe most of his body]], and [[PyrrhicVictory denies him his conquest of Cybertron itself with its destruction]].]]
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** "[[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Winter Soldier]] VS [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Red Hood]]": The Winter Soldier is the lighter shade. While both have dark histories and have killed numerous people throughout their life, Bucky proves to be the more virtuous due to the majority of his killings occurring while he was BrainwashedAndCrazy, and becomes TheAtoner in order to redeem himself for his acts. Jason, meanwhile, is completely willing to kill and continues to do so even after veering into a more heroic light. [[spoiler:In the end, Bucky ends up as the victor]].
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** "[[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Bill Cipher]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]]": Discord is the lighter shade. Both are beings that thrive on chaos, but whereas Bill is a {{sadist}}ic {{jerkass}} who gets enjoyment out of suffering and is completely fine with [[OmnicidalManiac destroying all of reality]], Discord is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who never means for any real evil in his actions, and eventually pulls a HeelFaceTurn thanks to his friendship with [[MoralityPet Fluttershy]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Bill comes out on top in the fight, but Discord is still successful in [[HeroicSacrifice screwing him over in the end]]]].
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** "[[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Bill Cipher]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]]": Discord is the lighter shade. Both are beings that thrive on chaos, but whereas Bill is a {{sadist}}ic {{jerkass}} who gets enjoyment out of suffering and is completely fine with [[OmnicidalManiac destroying all of reality]], Discord is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who never means for any real evil in his actions, and eventually pulls a HeelFaceTurn thanks to his friendship with [[MoralityPet Fluttershy]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Bill comes out on top in the fight, but Discord is still successful in [[HeroicSacrifice screwing him over over]] [[MeaninglessVillainVictory in the end]]]].
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* ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'': Downplayed and Discussed. Though their methods differ, Beau and Molly are both thieves and scam artists, and are at least in part doing it for the love of the game. However, while Beau is hostile and will steal from literally anyone, Molly is more of a KarmicThief who tries to limit himself to people who deserve it, and who tries to leave every town better than he found it. This philosophy eventually leads into a HeelRealization for Beau.
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-->'''Beau:''' We had a conversation last night when we were up for watch, and he asked me what my greatest lie was and we pulled fucking cards for it. Loser would go first. He told me this story about tricking a town into thinking he was royalty, being a king, to pull off a scam. I was almost going to tell him about my childhood, and I didn’t. Because he told that fucking story and I realized: even in his scams, when he was doing something shitty, he was still making people feel good or feel special. The town was being visited by– graced by his presence, by his royal highness. And I told him this story of ruining a couple’s lives by extorting them because I fucking could. Because I fucking felt like it. I realized if I can deliberately leave a town shittier than what I found it, of course he could fucking leave a town better than what he found it. And I’m not going to do that again. I’m not saying that I’m going to go off and be a fucking hero, but maybe we can equal out and I can at least not fuck any more shit up. Take baby steps towards the leaving the town better… thing.
-->'''Beau:''' We had a conversation last night when we were up for watch, and he asked me what my greatest lie was and we pulled fucking cards for it. Loser would go first. He told me this story about tricking a town into thinking he was royalty, being a king, to pull off a scam. I was almost going to tell him about my childhood, and I didn’t. Because he told that fucking story and I realized: even in his scams, when he was doing something shitty, he was still making people feel good or feel special. The town was being visited by– graced by his presence, by his royal highness. And I told him this story of ruining a couple’s lives by extorting them because I fucking could. Because I fucking felt like it. I realized if I can deliberately leave a town shittier than what I found it, of course he could fucking leave a town better than what he found it. And I’m not going to do that again. I’m not saying that I’m going to go off and be a fucking hero, but maybe we can equal out and I can at least not fuck any more shit up. Take baby steps towards the leaving the town better… thing.
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* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' has a few episodes with two villains pitted against each other, but one of them is more morally-gray or has a good side as compared to the other who is flat-out villainous. Examples are "[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles The Shredder]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Silver Samurai]]", "[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] vs. [[Characters/DevilMayCryVergil]]", "ComicBook/{{Carnage}} vs. [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]", "ComicBook/LexLuthor vs. ComicBook/DoctorDoom", "[[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]]", "ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}} vs. ComicBook/BlackAdam", and "[[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]] vs. [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]", all seven of which have the former being the more evil of the two.
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* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' has a few episodes with two villains pitted against each other, but one of them is more morally-gray or has a good side as compared to the other who is flat-out villainous. Examples are "[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles The Shredder]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Silver Samurai]]", "[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] vs. [[Characters/DevilMayCryVergil]]", "ComicBook/{{Carnage}} vs. are:
** "[[ComicBook/{{Venom}} Carnage]] VS [[Manga/ElfenLiedLucy]]", "ComicBook/LexLuthor vs. ComicBook/DoctorDoom", "[[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]]", "ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}} vs. ComicBook/BlackAdam", Lucy]]": Lucy is the lighter shade. Whereas Cletus is TheSociopath and "[[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]] vs. [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]", all seven a CardCarryingVillain who kills [[ForTheEvulz simply for the fun of which it]], Lucy is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with an ''extremely'' DarkAndTroubledPast whose character arc is based around developing from a VillainProtagonist to an AntiHero. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Lucy's victory]].
** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Beerus]] VS [[Franchise/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]]": Beerus is the lighter shade. Even prior to his HeelFaceTurn, Beerus is AffablyEvil and willingly spares Earth of destruction despite his prior plans after getting what he came for. While Galaxia also underwent a HeelFaceTurn, prior to that, she was a murderous tyrant who willingly sided with an [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch]] GodOfEvil out of a lust for power. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Beerus wins the battle in the end]].
** "[[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Winter Soldier]] VS [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Red Hood]]": The Winter Soldier is the lighter shade. While both havethe former being dark histories and have killed numerous people throughout their life, Bucky proves to be the more evil virtuous due to the majority of his killings occurring while he was BrainwashedAndCrazy, and becomes TheAtoner in order to redeem himself for his acts. Jason, meanwhile, is completely willing to kill and continues to do so even after veering into a more heroic light. [[spoiler:In the end, Bucky ends up as the victor]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Superman}} Lex Luthor]] VS [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Doctor Doom]]": Doctor Doom is the lighter shade. Whereas Lex is TheSociopath who desires to conquer Earth out of personal {{pride}} and {{greed}}, and is shown in one future to have turned the universe into an apocalyptic hellscape, Victor is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wants to conquer Earth out of a genuine belief that [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans it can be improved under his rule]], and is shown in one future to actually be correct. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Doom ends up the winner of thetwo.fight]].
** "[[Franchise/{{Tekken}} Heihachi Mishima]] VS [[VideoGame/FatalFury Geese]] [[Franchise/TheKingOfFighters Howard]]": Heihachi is the lighter shade. Heihachi, for as monstrous as his actions can be, is still a fairly sympathetic character who [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes did once genuinely care about his family]], and is heavily implied to have a HeelRealization in his final moments. Geese, meanwhile, has no real redeeming qualities whatsoever, and shows no desire to improve himself. [[spoiler:The fight ends in Heihachi's favor]].
** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Goku Black]] VS [[ComicBook/TheFlash Reverse-Flash]]": Reverse-Flash is the lighter shade. While both of these characters are horrifying monsters through and through, Zamasu is an outright OmnicidalManiac on a mission to wipe out all mortal life in existence, while Thawne is focused on the far smaller scale goal of making Barry Allen's life a living hell, and rarely commits any grand scale acts of villainy unless said acts benefit that initial goal. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Thawne wins the battle, though he does end up destroying Earth in the process]].
** "[[Franchise/StreetFighter Akuma]] VS [[Franchise/MortalKombat Shao Kahn]]": Akuma is the lighter shade. Akuma, for as ruthless as he can be, is still a NobleDemon with code of honor, which includes not fighting opponents who can't/won't fight back and always keeping his promises, and he has the relatively small scale goal of wanting to find a WorthyOpponent. Shao Kahn, meanwhile, is an EvilOverlord out to [[MultiversalConqueror conquer the multiverse]], and is [[CombatPragmatist not above cheating to get an advantage in battle]]. [[spoiler:In the end, Shao Kahn ends up as the victor of the fight]].
** "[[Manga/{{Naruto}} Madara]] VS [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Aizen]]": Madara is the lighter shade. While both characters commit some rather monstrous actions, Madara just barely manages to scrape out the title of the lesser evil by virtue of being a TragicVillain consumed by his clan's hatred and a WellIntentionedExtremist willing to use force to achieve peace. Aizen, on the other hand, has the personal goal of wanting to achieve ultimate power to stand above all others, and his motives behind his more heroic actions are left ambiguous. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Madara ends up winning the battle]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]] VS [[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]]": Omni-Man is the lighter shade. In spite of his initial goal of conquering Earth, Nolan has plenty of redeeming qualities, such as his [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes love for his family]], performs his villainous actions out of the genuine belief that they will lead to the best possible outcome, and eventually does [[HeelRealization end up seeing the error of his ways]] and performs a HeelFaceTurn. Homelander, by comparison, is an unrepentant HateSink whose very few sympathetic qualities fail to make up for just how much of a horrifying monster he is. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Nolan on top after subjecting Homelander to an absolutely brutal and very well-deserved CurbStompBattle]].
** "[[ComicBook/XMen Magneto]] VS [[Manga/{{AKIRA}} Tetsuo]]": Magneto is the lighter shade. Magneto, while a supervillain for most of his life, is a TragicVillain whose goal at its core is the survival of Mutantkind, and eventually [[HeelRealization came to see how his actions do more harm than good]] and performed a HeelFaceTurn in order to make amends. Tetsuo, on the other hand, while a fairly tragic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, is still an AxCrazy villain who never saw the error of his ways. [[spoiler:In the end, Magneto wins the battle, with him performing a MercyKill on Tetsuo after the latter undergoes his SuperpowerMeltdown]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Black Adam]] VS [[ComicBook/XMen Apocalypse]]": Black Adam is the lighter shade. Adam, while no stranger to performing morally villainous actions, is at his core an AntiVillain who prioritizes the protection of his home country of Kahndaq above all else. Apocalypse, meanwhile is a sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] out to conquer the world and wipe out all who he deems weak. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Apocalypse's victory, in what is one of the series' biggest {{Downer Ending}}s]].
** "[[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] VS [[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]]": Jason is the lighter shade. While he's undoubtedly a monstrous killer, Jason is also a fairly tragic character, given his backstory, and has a number of humanizing qualities, such as his [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas love for his mother]], his hatred of those who hurt animals, and the fact that he only targets those who invade on his territory. Michael, by comparison, has no tragic backstory, no redeeming qualities, and commits his murders ForTheEvulz. [[spoiler:Jason ends up as the victor in the end]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Venom}} Carnage]] VS [[Manga/ElfenLied
** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Beerus]] VS [[Franchise/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]]": Beerus is the lighter shade. Even prior to his HeelFaceTurn, Beerus is AffablyEvil and willingly spares Earth of destruction despite his prior plans after getting what he came for. While Galaxia also underwent a HeelFaceTurn, prior to that, she was a murderous tyrant who willingly sided with an [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch]] GodOfEvil out of a lust for power. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Beerus wins the battle in the end]].
** "[[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Winter Soldier]] VS [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Red Hood]]": The Winter Soldier is the lighter shade. While both have
** "[[ComicBook/{{Superman}} Lex Luthor]] VS [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Doctor Doom]]": Doctor Doom is the lighter shade. Whereas Lex is TheSociopath who desires to conquer Earth out of personal {{pride}} and {{greed}}, and is shown in one future to have turned the universe into an apocalyptic hellscape, Victor is a WellIntentionedExtremist who wants to conquer Earth out of a genuine belief that [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans it can be improved under his rule]], and is shown in one future to actually be correct. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Doom ends up the winner of the
** "[[Franchise/{{Tekken}} Heihachi Mishima]] VS [[VideoGame/FatalFury Geese]] [[Franchise/TheKingOfFighters Howard]]": Heihachi is the lighter shade. Heihachi, for as monstrous as his actions can be, is still a fairly sympathetic character who [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes did once genuinely care about his family]], and is heavily implied to have a HeelRealization in his final moments. Geese, meanwhile, has no real redeeming qualities whatsoever, and shows no desire to improve himself. [[spoiler:The fight ends in Heihachi's favor]].
** "[[Franchise/DragonBall Goku Black]] VS [[ComicBook/TheFlash Reverse-Flash]]": Reverse-Flash is the lighter shade. While both of these characters are horrifying monsters through and through, Zamasu is an outright OmnicidalManiac on a mission to wipe out all mortal life in existence, while Thawne is focused on the far smaller scale goal of making Barry Allen's life a living hell, and rarely commits any grand scale acts of villainy unless said acts benefit that initial goal. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Thawne wins the battle, though he does end up destroying Earth in the process]].
** "[[Franchise/StreetFighter Akuma]] VS [[Franchise/MortalKombat Shao Kahn]]": Akuma is the lighter shade. Akuma, for as ruthless as he can be, is still a NobleDemon with code of honor, which includes not fighting opponents who can't/won't fight back and always keeping his promises, and he has the relatively small scale goal of wanting to find a WorthyOpponent. Shao Kahn, meanwhile, is an EvilOverlord out to [[MultiversalConqueror conquer the multiverse]], and is [[CombatPragmatist not above cheating to get an advantage in battle]]. [[spoiler:In the end, Shao Kahn ends up as the victor of the fight]].
** "[[Manga/{{Naruto}} Madara]] VS [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Aizen]]": Madara is the lighter shade. While both characters commit some rather monstrous actions, Madara just barely manages to scrape out the title of the lesser evil by virtue of being a TragicVillain consumed by his clan's hatred and a WellIntentionedExtremist willing to use force to achieve peace. Aizen, on the other hand, has the personal goal of wanting to achieve ultimate power to stand above all others, and his motives behind his more heroic actions are left ambiguous. [[spoiler:Ultimately, Madara ends up winning the battle]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]] VS [[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]]": Omni-Man is the lighter shade. In spite of his initial goal of conquering Earth, Nolan has plenty of redeeming qualities, such as his [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes love for his family]], performs his villainous actions out of the genuine belief that they will lead to the best possible outcome, and eventually does [[HeelRealization end up seeing the error of his ways]] and performs a HeelFaceTurn. Homelander, by comparison, is an unrepentant HateSink whose very few sympathetic qualities fail to make up for just how much of a horrifying monster he is. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Nolan on top after subjecting Homelander to an absolutely brutal and very well-deserved CurbStompBattle]].
** "[[ComicBook/XMen Magneto]] VS [[Manga/{{AKIRA}} Tetsuo]]": Magneto is the lighter shade. Magneto, while a supervillain for most of his life, is a TragicVillain whose goal at its core is the survival of Mutantkind, and eventually [[HeelRealization came to see how his actions do more harm than good]] and performed a HeelFaceTurn in order to make amends. Tetsuo, on the other hand, while a fairly tragic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, is still an AxCrazy villain who never saw the error of his ways. [[spoiler:In the end, Magneto wins the battle, with him performing a MercyKill on Tetsuo after the latter undergoes his SuperpowerMeltdown]].
** "[[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Black Adam]] VS [[ComicBook/XMen Apocalypse]]": Black Adam is the lighter shade. Adam, while no stranger to performing morally villainous actions, is at his core an AntiVillain who prioritizes the protection of his home country of Kahndaq above all else. Apocalypse, meanwhile is a sadistic [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] out to conquer the world and wipe out all who he deems weak. [[spoiler:The fight ends with Apocalypse's victory, in what is one of the series' biggest {{Downer Ending}}s]].
** "[[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] VS [[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]]": Jason is the lighter shade. While he's undoubtedly a monstrous killer, Jason is also a fairly tragic character, given his backstory, and has a number of humanizing qualities, such as his [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas love for his mother]], his hatred of those who hurt animals, and the fact that he only targets those who invade on his territory. Michael, by comparison, has no tragic backstory, no redeeming qualities, and commits his murders ForTheEvulz. [[spoiler:Jason ends up as the victor in the end]].
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'': Vhaeraun is an absolutely and utterly evil god, and intent on leading the drow to conquer the multiverse and enslave all non-drow. However, unlike his mother Lolth, he sees drow society for the self-destructive mess it is, and is a staunch advocate for gender equality and co-operation. He is also pragmatic enough to work with both people and gods he hates, if it gets him closer to taking his mother down.
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* 'WesternAnimation/AngryBirdsSummerMadness'': Neideflyer's sister, Robin. While she is just as stuck-up and antagonistic as her brother, she has lows she won't stoop to, and doesn't hesitate to help Stella save her friends in "Space Oddities".
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* 'WesternAnimation/AngryBirdsSummerMadness'': ''WesternAnimation/AngryBirdsSummerMadness'': Neideflyer's sister, Robin. While she is just as stuck-up and antagonistic as her brother, she has lows she won't stoop to, and doesn't hesitate to help Stella save her friends in "Space Oddities".
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* 'WesternAnimation/AngryBirdsSummerMadness'': Neideflyer's sister, Robin. While she is just as stuck-up and antagonistic as her brother, she has lows she won't stoop to, and doesn't hesitate to help Stella save her friends in "Space Oddities".
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* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' has a few episodes with two villains pitted against each other, but one of them is more morally-gray or has a good side as compared to the other who is flat-out villainous. Examples are "[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles The Shredder]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Silver Samurai]]", "[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] vs. [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Vergil]]", "ComicBook/{{Carnage}} vs. [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]", "ComicBook/LexLuthor vs. ComicBook/DoctorDoom", "[[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]]", "ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}} vs. ComicBook/BlackAdam", and "[[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]] vs. [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]", all seven of which have the former being the more evil of the two.
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* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' has a few episodes with two villains pitted against each other, but one of them is more morally-gray or has a good side as compared to the other who is flat-out villainous. Examples are "[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles The Shredder]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Silver Samurai]]", "[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] vs. [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Vergil]]", [[Characters/DevilMayCryVergil]]", "ComicBook/{{Carnage}} vs. [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]", "ComicBook/LexLuthor vs. ComicBook/DoctorDoom", "[[ComicBook/TheBoys Homelander]] vs. [[ComicBook/{{Invincible}} Omni-Man]]", "ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}} vs. ComicBook/BlackAdam", and "[[{{Franchise/Halloween}} Michael Myers]] vs. [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]", all seven of which have the former being the more evil of the two.
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--> '''Creator/ChristopherHitchens''': "I remember the strange horror, of realising that this must have been exactly how Gareth Jones had felt when he became the Cassandra of the Holodomor. Of ringing the claxon as desperately as your arms could carry in warning, and of no one coming to heed it. Even if they’re Islamists, they’ve got to win this war.”
** Alexander Lebed has a low opinion of democracy, but he's merely a charismatic military strongman, which makes him a much better contender in the Second Russian Civil War compared to the Communists and Fascists, nor is he a PoliticallyIncorrectHero. Combined with intending to restore access to resource deposits in Siberia, this serves as incentive for him to get under-the-table support from corporate sponsors.
** [[spoiler: China is an authoritarian state that suppresses democracy, but most reasonable people see their rule of North Korea as better than rule by [[TheCaligula Kim Jong-il]] ]].
** Alexander Lebed has a low opinion of democracy, but he's merely a charismatic military strongman, which makes him a much better contender in the Second Russian Civil War compared to the Communists and Fascists, nor is he a PoliticallyIncorrectHero. Combined with intending to restore access to resource deposits in Siberia, this serves as incentive for him to get under-the-table support from corporate sponsors.
** [[spoiler: China is an authoritarian state that suppresses democracy, but most reasonable people see their rule of North Korea as better than rule by [[TheCaligula Kim Jong-il]] ]].
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