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* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
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Not to be confused with ''Lords of Creation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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Not to be confused with ''Lords of Creation'', ''TabletopGame/LordsOfCreation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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* ArchaeologicalArmsRace: This trope is name dropped when discussing the United states interest in the architectural ruins of mars.
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* ArchaeologicalArmsRace: This trope is name dropped when discussing the United states States interest in the architectural ruins of mars.
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* GenderIsNoObject: {{Enforced}}, not only are Martions less sexually dimorphic then terrans female Martians can choose whether or not to implant an embryo.
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* ShorterMeansSmarter: Inverted, martians considers anything under six feet to be stupid. Given that the manufactured servant caste is pretty short helped form this cultural stereotype.
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* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings'' with earthling protagonist Jeremy Wainman.
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* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a great wolf pup as a pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
** Decobstructed with Martian fauna where the GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke means that the surviving animals on the DeathWorld are more dangerous then they would be otherwise. Standout examples are feral engines and toolusing dinosaurs that are descended from hunting dogs.
** Decobstructed with Martian fauna where the GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke means that the surviving animals on the DeathWorld are more dangerous then they would be otherwise. Standout examples are feral engines and toolusing dinosaurs that are descended from hunting dogs.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undiluted vile and filthy creatures.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
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* AncientAstronauts: The titular Lords of Creation have been mocking about in the Sol System for thousands if not millions of years.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
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* AncientAstronauts: The titular Lords of Creation have been mocking mucking about in the Sol System for thousands if not tens of millions of years.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.years.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
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* [[strike:Bamboo]] [[BambooTechnology Shamboo Technology]]: Space travel is EXPENSIVE, which means the Venusian colonists have to make do with bronze age materials for their equipment wherever they can.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope Justified,]] The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.
* BiotechIsBetter: {{Discussed}}, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope Justified,]] The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.
* BiotechIsBetter: {{Discussed}}, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
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* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chess-like game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
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* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonists and protagonists, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
* DeathWorld: Venus and Mars are this to earthlings. They don't all die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, as Mars is much colder and drier than Earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
* DesertPunk: Mars combines this with BioPunk.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of {{Cyborg}} thanks to NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a non-specialist can carry out the operation.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs have survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* ExoticEquipment: It's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
* {{Fartillery}}: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count; things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* FrazettaMan: The Wergu, which are [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] by all appearances.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it, and sic a mob on some humans who are caught photographing a sacred site.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in the interim]].
* DeathWorld: Venus and Mars are this to earthlings. They don't all die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, as Mars is much colder and drier than Earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
* DesertPunk: Mars combines this with BioPunk.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of {{Cyborg}} thanks to NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a non-specialist can carry out the operation.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs have survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* ExoticEquipment: It's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
* {{Fartillery}}: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count; things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* FrazettaMan: The Wergu, which are [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] by all appearances.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it, and sic a mob on some humans who are caught photographing a sacred site.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in the interim]].
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* HumanChess: ''Atanj'', the Martian version, see above.
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* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, emphatic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
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* JungleOpera: The entirity of the Venus book is a send up to this genre as it is others.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: All the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: All the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
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* LostWorld: The ''entire planet'' of Venus.
* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out people's ages.
* MarsWantsChocolate: {{Inverted}}; martian spices are one of the reasons NASA still has funding for their missions.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* TheNativeRival: Downplayed as the native is the younger brother of the female protagonists mate. His death means the younger brother moves up in position. Then the earth protagonist arrives and his position is threatened. He does end up hooking up with a female from earth though.
* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out people's ages.
* MarsWantsChocolate: {{Inverted}}; martian spices are one of the reasons NASA still has funding for their missions.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* TheNativeRival: Downplayed as the native is the younger brother of the female protagonists mate. His death means the younger brother moves up in position. Then the earth protagonist arrives and his position is threatened. He does end up hooking up with a female from earth though.
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* NubileSavage: Teesa of the Cloud Mountain People.
* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith, as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable than metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* OurBetterIsDifferent: For Martians people strive to achieve Harmony, which is where everyone is subservient and answerable to the authority of the Crimson Throne and there is no banditry or wastefulness.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith, as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable than metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* OurBetterIsDifferent: For Martians people strive to achieve Harmony, which is where everyone is subservient and answerable to the authority of the Crimson Throne and there is no banditry or wastefulness.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
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* PositionOfLiteralPower: {{Justified}} as the leaders of non earth planets have their authority typed to ancient machinery that recognizes them as on site administrators to the systems.
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* RoyalBlood: {{Justified}} by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
** Venus has a similar if more diffuse system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
** Venus has a similar if more diffuse system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
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* SpareToTheThrone: {{Enforced}} Mars court politics is such that courtiers want the stagnation to continue over a new and vital monarch, additionally as the Genome must be kept "pure" any possible half bloods are usually aborted. Also having an heir before your a hundred is seen as being unconfident of your position.
** Teyud's mother went through hell and high water to ensure she was born.
* SpiceOfLife: The martian language does not distinguish between spices and what terrans would call 'hard drugs'.
* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* StonePunk: Venus's Hat, being transplanted into a plant full of giant man-eating monsters can't do much for technological development.
* Swashbuckler: Mars has quite a few of these
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to the grammar of Demotic.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demotic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
** Teyud's mother went through hell and high water to ensure she was born.
* SpiceOfLife: The martian language does not distinguish between spices and what terrans would call 'hard drugs'.
* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* StonePunk: Venus's Hat, being transplanted into a plant full of giant man-eating monsters can't do much for technological development.
* Swashbuckler: Mars has quite a few of these
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to the grammar of Demotic.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demotic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
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* UniversalTranslator: Deconstructed, the NeuralImplanting used to break through the language barrier could have driven the target haplessly mad if it had gone wrong. Mark is not happy when he finds out.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars, it has all the basic features of the actual Venus, up until about two hundred million years ago.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are different types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "'''FERAL ENGINES!'''"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars, it has all the basic features of the actual Venus, up until about two hundred million years ago.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are different types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "'''FERAL ENGINES!'''"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
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* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a great wolf pup as a pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undiluted vile and filthy creatures.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* [[strike:Bamboo]] [[BambooTechnology Shamboo Technology]]: Space travel is EXPENSIVE, which means the Venusian colonists have to make do with bronze age materials for their equipment wherever they can.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope Justified,]] The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.
* DeathWorld: Venus and Mars are this to earthlings. They don't all die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of {{Cyborg}} thanks to NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a non-specialist can carry out the operation.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs have survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* FrazettaMan: The Wergu, which are [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] by all appearances.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it, and sic a mob on some humans who are caught photographing a sacred site.
* JungleOpera: The entirety of the Venus book is a send up to this genre as it is others.
* LostWorld: The ''entire planet'' of Venus.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* TheNativeRival: Downplayed as the native is the younger brother of the female protagonists mate. His death means the younger brother moves up in position. Then the earth protagonist arrives and his position is threatened. He does end up hooking up with a female from earth though.
* NubileSavage: Teesa of the Cloud Mountain People.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* StonePunk: Venus's Hat, being transplanted into a plant full of giant man-eating monsters can't do much for technological development.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars, it has all the basic features of the actual Venus, up until about two hundred million years ago.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are different types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* UniversalTranslator: Deconstructed, the NeuralImplanting used to break through the language barrier could have driven the target haplessly mad if it had gone wrong. Mark is not happy when he finds out.
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[[folder: In The Courts of the Crimson Kings]]
* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings'' with earthling protagonist Jeremy Wainman.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: Deconstructed with Martian fauna where the GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke means that the surviving animals on the DeathWorld are more dangerous then they would be otherwise. Standout examples are feral engines and toolusing dinosaurs that are descended from hunting dogs.
* ArchaeologicalArmsRace: This trope is name dropped when discussing the United states interest in the architectural ruins of mars.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
* BiotechIsBetter: {{Discussed}}, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chess-like game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonists and protagonists, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, as Mars is much colder and drier than Earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
* DesertPunk: Mars combines this with BioPunk.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: Some were turned into hunting dog equivalents.
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* ExoticEquipment: It's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
* {{Fartillery}}: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count; things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the second book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in the interim]].
* HumanChess: ''Atanj'', the Martian version, see above.
* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, emphatic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: All the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out people's ages.
* MarsWantsChocolate: {{Inverted}}; martian spices are one of the reasons NASA still has funding for their missions. {{PlayedStreight}} in that chocolate is still apreciated.
* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith, as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable than metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* OurBetterIsDifferent: For Martians people strive to achieve Harmony, which is where everyone is subservient and answerable to the authority of the Crimson Throne and there is no banditry or wastefulness.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
* PositionOfLiteralPower: {{Justified}} as the leaders of non earth planets have their authority typed to ancient machinery that recognizes them as on site administrators to the systems.
* RoyalBlood: {{Justified}} by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
** Venus has a similar if more diffuse system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
* SpareToTheThrone: {{Enforced}} Mars court politics is such that courtiers want the stagnation to continue over a new and vital monarch, additionally as the Genome must be kept "pure" any possible half bloods are usually aborted. Also having an heir before your a hundred is seen as being unconfident of your position.
** Teyud's mother went through hell and high water to ensure she was born.
* SpiceOfLife: The martian language does not distinguish between spices and what terrans would call 'hard drugs'.
* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
* Swashbuckler: Mars has quite a few of these
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to the grammar of Demotic.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demotic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "'''FERAL ENGINES!'''"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
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* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a great wolf pup as a pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undiluted vile and filthy creatures.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* [[strike:Bamboo]] [[BambooTechnology Shamboo Technology]]: Space travel is EXPENSIVE, which means the Venusian colonists have to make do with bronze age materials for their equipment wherever they can.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope Justified,]] The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.
* DeathWorld: Venus and Mars are this to earthlings. They don't all die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of {{Cyborg}} thanks to NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a non-specialist can carry out the operation.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs have survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* FrazettaMan: The Wergu, which are [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] by all appearances.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it, and sic a mob on some humans who are caught photographing a sacred site.
* JungleOpera: The entirety of the Venus book is a send up to this genre as it is others.
* LostWorld: The ''entire planet'' of Venus.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* TheNativeRival: Downplayed as the native is the younger brother of the female protagonists mate. His death means the younger brother moves up in position. Then the earth protagonist arrives and his position is threatened. He does end up hooking up with a female from earth though.
* NubileSavage: Teesa of the Cloud Mountain People.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* StonePunk: Venus's Hat, being transplanted into a plant full of giant man-eating monsters can't do much for technological development.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars, it has all the basic features of the actual Venus, up until about two hundred million years ago.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are different types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* UniversalTranslator: Deconstructed, the NeuralImplanting used to break through the language barrier could have driven the target haplessly mad if it had gone wrong. Mark is not happy when he finds out.
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[[folder: In The Courts of the Crimson Kings]]
* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings'' with earthling protagonist Jeremy Wainman.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: Deconstructed with Martian fauna where the GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke means that the surviving animals on the DeathWorld are more dangerous then they would be otherwise. Standout examples are feral engines and toolusing dinosaurs that are descended from hunting dogs.
* ArchaeologicalArmsRace: This trope is name dropped when discussing the United states interest in the architectural ruins of mars.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
* BiotechIsBetter: {{Discussed}}, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chess-like game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonists and protagonists, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, as Mars is much colder and drier than Earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
* DesertPunk: Mars combines this with BioPunk.
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: Some were turned into hunting dog equivalents.
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* ExoticEquipment: It's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
* {{Fartillery}}: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count; things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the second book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in the interim]].
* HumanChess: ''Atanj'', the Martian version, see above.
* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, emphatic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: All the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out people's ages.
* MarsWantsChocolate: {{Inverted}}; martian spices are one of the reasons NASA still has funding for their missions. {{PlayedStreight}} in that chocolate is still apreciated.
* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith, as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable than metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* OurBetterIsDifferent: For Martians people strive to achieve Harmony, which is where everyone is subservient and answerable to the authority of the Crimson Throne and there is no banditry or wastefulness.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
* PositionOfLiteralPower: {{Justified}} as the leaders of non earth planets have their authority typed to ancient machinery that recognizes them as on site administrators to the systems.
* RoyalBlood: {{Justified}} by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
** Venus has a similar if more diffuse system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
* SpareToTheThrone: {{Enforced}} Mars court politics is such that courtiers want the stagnation to continue over a new and vital monarch, additionally as the Genome must be kept "pure" any possible half bloods are usually aborted. Also having an heir before your a hundred is seen as being unconfident of your position.
** Teyud's mother went through hell and high water to ensure she was born.
* SpiceOfLife: The martian language does not distinguish between spices and what terrans would call 'hard drugs'.
* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
* Swashbuckler: Mars has quite a few of these
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to the grammar of Demotic.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demotic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "'''FERAL ENGINES!'''"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
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* Fartillery: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count, things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
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* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have a backup weapon handy in the interim.
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have a backup weapon handy in the interim.
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* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in theinterim.interim]].
* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to [[TheMusketeer have a backup weapon handy in the
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* DeathWorld: Venus Mars are this to earthlings, they don't die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
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* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, Mars is much colder and drier than earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
* DesertPunk: Mars combines this with BioPunk
* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of {{Cyborg}} thanks to NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a non-specialist can carry out the operation
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* AliensNeverInventedDemocracy: Downplayed as the "aliens" are all human transplants, but earth is the only planet with any form of democracy. Mars has a centuries old stagnant monarchy and Venus is just clawing it's way out of tribalism.
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* AliensNeverInventedDemocracy: Downplayed as the "aliens" are all human transplants, but earth is the only planet with any form of democracy. Mars has a centuries old stagnant monarchy and Venus is just clawing it's its way out of tribalism.
* AmazonianBeauty: Both the female protagonists.
* AmazonChaser: Both of the human male protagonists, though for different reasons. Both the female protagonists fit the trope in different ways.
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* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
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* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, {{Discussed}}, given how resource poor Mars is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.doorstep.
* CasualInterplanetaryTravel: {{Averted}}; Space travel and colonisation is so expensive only the superpowers can afford it, using up the resources [[AlternateHistory that would otherwise be spent on the East/West arms race or Third World conflict.]]
** The fact that Mars has BioTech that can be used in trade goes a long way in justifying this trope.
* CasualInterplanetaryTravel: {{Averted}}; Space travel and colonisation is so expensive only the superpowers can afford it, using up the resources [[AlternateHistory that would otherwise be spent on the East/West arms race or Third World conflict.]]
** The fact that Mars has BioTech that can be used in trade goes a long way in justifying this trope.
* DeathWorld: Venus Mars are this to earthlings, they don't die and the native humans have adapted somewhat but EverythingTryingToKillYou is in full effect.
* DesertPlanet: PlayedWith, Mars is much colder and drier than earth but the people have adapted to it and there are several varieties of cold and dry.
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* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. There's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead.
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* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. There's {{Discussed}} as there's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead.lead. Some of the native priest cast don't like it.
* MarsWantsChocolate: {{Inverted}}; martian spices are one of the reasons NASA still has funding for their missions.
* OurBetterIsDifferent: For Martians people strive to achieve Harmony, which is where everyone is subservient and answerable to the authority of the Crimson Throne and there is no banditry or wastefulness.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
** This is hard for the Western block humans to wrap their heads around but easier for eastern block humans.
* PositionOfLiteralPower: {{Justified}} as the leaders of non earth planets have their authority typed to ancient machinery that recognizes them as on site administrators to the systems.
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* RoyalBlood: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
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* RoyalBlood: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] {{Justified}} by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
* SequelGap: the first two books were released within two years of each other any hints of a third book have yet to appear.
* SpareToTheThrone: {{Enforced}} Mars court politics is such that courtiers want the stagnation to continue over a new and vital monarch, additionally as the Genome must be kept "pure" any possible half bloods are usually aborted. Also having an heir before your a hundred is seen as being unconfident of your position.
** Teyud's mother went through hell and high water to ensure she was born.
* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
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* StatuesqueStunner: Common among high caste female Martians. Anyone under six feet is treated with scorn.
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* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
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* AliensNeverInventedDemocracy: Downplayed as the "aliens" are all human transplants, but earth is the only planet with any form of democracy. Mars has a centuries old stagnant monarchy and Venus is just clawing it's way out of tribalism.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising agreatwolf great wolf pup as a pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undilutedly vile and filthy creatures.
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* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.]]
* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, given how resource poor Mars is Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, given how resource poor Mars is Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
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* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, given how resource poor Marsis is, Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martianchesslike chess-like game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in some ways.
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* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonist antagonists and protagonist, protagonists, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
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* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of Cyborg thanks to neural implant. It's routine to the point that a nonspecalist can carry out the operation
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs has survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs has survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
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* DomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of Cyborg {{Cyborg}} thanks to neural implant. NeuralImplanting. It's routine to the point that a nonspecalist non-specialist can carry out the operation
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurshas have survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs
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* ExoticEquipment: t's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
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* ExoticEquipment: t's It's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out peoples ages.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: Explicitly still "our" Mars, though with more water imported by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out peoples people's ages.
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* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
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* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith PlayedWith, as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durablethen than metal. It is useful enough that some of it has been imported by Earth.
** A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the planet's entire ecology.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable
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** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor Mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
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** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor Mercury or the larger local gas giant moons.
** Martians have their wounds close up so fast they might as well be [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Fremen]]
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* StonePunk: the Hat of Venus
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* StonePunk: the Hat Venus's Hat, being transplanted into a plant full of Venusgiant man-eating monsters can't do much for technological development.
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* AlternateHistory: Explored in the chapter breaks, people have suspected the mars and venus were inhabited for centuries. Worldwide the political situation on earth is less volatile after life is discovered on the other planets. bug things have moved to earth and mars.
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* AlternateHistory: Explored in the chapter breaks, people breaks. People have suspected the mars that Mars and venus Venus were inhabited for centuries. Worldwide centuries, but the dawn of space travel gave them proof. The political situation on earth Earth is less volatile after life is discovered on the other planets. bug things have moved planets, but the Cold War has been exported to earth Venus and mars.Mars.
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to Demonic
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demonic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are all scientists this is Discussed to Jove and back. The juries still out on the other planets in Sol.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars it has all the basic features of the actual Venus minus the transplanted life.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are diffrent types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demonic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are all scientists this is Discussed to Jove and back. The juries still out on the other planets in Sol.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars it has all the basic features of the actual Venus minus the transplanted life.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are diffrent types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians thanks to Demonic
the grammar of Demotic.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in MartianDemonic.Demotic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are allscientists scientists, this is Discussed to Jove and back. The juries jury's still out on the other planets in Sol.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: LikeMars Mars, it has all the basic features of the actual Venus minus the transplanted life.
Venus, up until about two hundred million years ago.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there arediffrent different types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are all
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are
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* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots'' the series could be called this meets RealLife
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor does mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor does mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
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* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots'' the ''Lots''. The whole series could be called this meets RealLife
is basically an attempt to [[JustifiedTrope Justify]] the genre with some real science.
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nordoes mercury Mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor
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** ''[[WesternAnimation/IceAge Scrat]]'' of all rodents has a cameo on Venus, believe it or else.
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** ''[[WesternAnimation/IceAge Scrat]]'' Scrat]]'', of all rodents rodents, has a cameo on Venus, believe it or else.Venus.
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* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' motifs in some ways.
* CosmicHorrorStory: Downplayed but it's there, the Sol system has been the playground of an alien species. Telescopes have picked up superstructures in the Galexy, we aren't alone indeed.
* CosmicHorrorStory: Downplayed but it's there, the Sol system has been the playground of an alien species. Telescopes have picked up superstructures in the Galexy, we aren't alone indeed.
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* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' motifs in some ways.
* CosmicHorrorStory: Downplayed but it'sthere, the there. The Sol system has been the playground of an alien species. Telescopes species and telescopes have picked up superstructures in the Galexy, Galaxy; we aren't alone indeed.are definitely ''not'' alone.
* CosmicHorrorStory: Downplayed but it's
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* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have a weapon handy in the interim.
* HumansAreWhite: Nope the americans are ethnically diverse and the eastern bloc has representatives on the planets, neither of the human protagonists are white.
* HumansAreWhite: Nope the americans are ethnically diverse and the eastern bloc has representatives on the planets, neither of the human protagonists are white.
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* GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have a backup weapon handy in the interim.
* HumansAreWhite:Nope Averted; the americans Americans are ethnically diverse and so are the eastern bloc has representatives on the planets, neither Eastern Bloc representatives. Neither of the human protagonists are white.
* HumansAreWhite:
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* HumanSubspecies: The Venusians ''are'' human, or can at least breed with Earthlings. The Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone into a FantasticCasteSystem but are still close enough to find humans attractive. There are even some Neanderthals around!
** Though most Martians see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
** Though most Martians see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
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* HumanSubspecies: The Venusians ''are'' human, or can at least breed with Earthlings. The Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone into have a FantasticCasteSystem FantasticCasteSystem, but are still close enough to find humans attractive. There are even some Neanderthals around!
** Thoughattractive (though most Martians see humans us as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.''ooze'' sweat). There are even some Neanderthals around!
** Though
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: the planet is explicitly this still mars though with more water imported with by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out peoples ages.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: the planet is explicitly this Explicitly still mars "our" Mars, though with more water imported with by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out peoples ages.
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* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
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* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars Mars, but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
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Lot of crosswicking with some more things I noticed, one of my favourite series.
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* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings''.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a pet.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a pet.
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* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings''.
Kings'' with earthling protagonist Jeremy Wainman.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as apet.pet, thinking it will turn on him when it grows up. However Marc is well aware of the history of domestication and has owned dogs before and knows how to break one to bridle.
* AlternateHistory: Explored in the chapter breaks, people have suspected the mars and venus were inhabited for centuries. Worldwide the political situation on earth is less volatile after life is discovered on the other planets. bug things have moved to earth and mars.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: DoubleSubverted The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a
* AlternateHistory: Explored in the chapter breaks, people have suspected the mars and venus were inhabited for centuries. Worldwide the political situation on earth is less volatile after life is discovered on the other planets. bug things have moved to earth and mars.
* AncientAstronauts: The titular Lords of Creation have been mocking about in the Sol System for thousands if not millions of years.
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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Lords of Creation Creation]] seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
* BiotechIsBetter: Discussed, given how resource poor Mars is Biotechnology is an adequate solution and they've achieved things that Earth humans are only now learning from. Sill, it was Earthlings that developed space travel and showed up on the '''Martian''' doorstep.
* CosmicHorrorStory: Downplayed but it's there, the Sol system has been the playground of an alien species. Telescopes have picked up superstructures in the Galexy, we aren't alone indeed.
* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonist and protagonist, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
* CulturalPosturing: Martians, antagonist and protagonist, are very fond of pointing out how advanced they were while Earth humans were hunter-gatherers. The problem is that they haven't moved beyond that.
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* DesertPunk: Mars.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs
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* DesertPunk: Mars.
Mars combines this with BioPunk
*EverythingsBetterWithDinosaursDomesticatedDinosaurs: With a liberal dose of Cyborg thanks to neural implant. It's routine to the point that a nonspecalist can carry out the operation
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs has survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
*
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: Oh yes, the StockDinosaurs has survived and differentiated into much larger species thanks to the low gravity and high oxygen.
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* FrazettaMan: the Wergu.
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* ExoticEquipment: t's mentioned that the [[ActionGirl Teyud]] and [[AdventurerArchaeologist Jeremy]] have physical differences that they need to work around, which only tests their inventiveness. The Martian scientist who examines him later seems rather squicked out by these differences though.
* Fartillery: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count, things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* FrazettaMan:the Wergu.The Wergu, which are [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] by all appearances.
* Fartillery: The methane-powered living rifles of the Martians probably count, things like this are expected when you base your ordinance off of biotech.
* FrazettaMan:
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* HumanAliens: The Venusians ''are'' human, and the Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone but are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
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* HumanAliens: GunsVsSwords: Lampshaded in the prologue of the first book. The Venusians ''are'' human, first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have genetically engineered themselves to hell a weapon handy in the interim.
* HumansAreWhite: Nope the americans are ethnically diverse andgone but the eastern bloc has representatives on the planets, neither of the human protagonists are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.white.
* HumansAreWhite: Nope the americans are ethnically diverse and
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
* HumanSubspecies: The Venusians ''are'' human, or can at least breed with Earthlings. The Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone into a FantasticCasteSystem but are still close enough to find humans attractive. There are even some Neanderthals around!
** Though most Martians see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
** Though most Martians see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
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* LawyerFriendlyCameo: all the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
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* LawyerFriendlyCameo: all All the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}
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* UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}UsefulNotes/{{Mars}}: the planet is explicitly this still mars though with more water imported with by the Precursors. Things like gravity and the damage the sun can do to you still apply, as does the orbital period for working out peoples ages.
* NoBiochemicalBarriers: {{Justified}} as all flora and fauna, micro and macro, is ultimately Earth derived, still there is parallel evolution so unique diseases and allergies do show up.
* OnceGreenMars: PlayedWith as are so many tropes. There used to be much more ecological diversity on Mars but the Lords of Creation failed to check in and it slowly became the desert that it is now.
**A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the ecology.
**A lot of the brown color comes from the grass that is one of the reasons for the main reasons for the continued breathable atmosphere. It's a bedrock for the ecology.
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* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots''.
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* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots''.''lots'' the series could be called this meets RealLife
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor does mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
** The Moon doesn't seem to be inhabited, nor does mercury or the larger gas giant moons.
** Venus has a similar if more diffuse system.
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** RodentsOfUnusualSize are found in the caverns under Olympus. Mind you, the "unusual" size is ''small''.
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** RodentsOfUnusualSize are found in the caverns under Olympus. Mind you, the "unusual" size is ''small''. The issue is that there [[TheSwarm thousands of them]].
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* SingleBiomePlanet: Averted sort of; Mars has several ''varieties'' of "cold and dry", for example.
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* SingleBiomePlanet: Averted sort of; Mars has several ''varieties'' of "cold and dry", for example. Venus is like Earth only wetter and more tropical.
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: The [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians.
* TransplantedHumans
* TransplantedHumans
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* StonePunk: the Hat of Venus
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry:The A [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians.
Martians thanks to Demonic
*TransplantedHumansTheyCallMeMisterTibbs: UpToEleven in Martian Demonic. A human Eastern-bloc ambassador nearly suffers a nasty fate when he refers to their "fraternal aid" to the Martian Emperor, implying a blood relationship where none exists.
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are all scientists this is Discussed to Jove and back. The juries still out on the other planets in Sol.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars it has all the basic features of the actual Venus minus the transplanted life.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are diffrent types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry:
*
* TransplantedHumans: To both Venus and Mars, combined with HumanSubspecies. Given that the main Terrens are all scientists this is Discussed to Jove and back. The juries still out on the other planets in Sol.
* UsefulNotes/{{Venus}}: Like Mars it has all the basic features of the actual Venus minus the transplanted life.
* VenusIsWet: PlayedWith, the entire planet is covered in jungles, but there are diffrent types of jungles along with flood plains and mountains and more.
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* ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld: Used by the Earthling explorers on Venus and, in slightly more fantastical airship form, by the Martians.
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* ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld: Used by the Earthling explorers on Venus and, in slightly more fantastical airship form, by the native Martians.
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** Teesa's dead former mate, [[EarthsChildren Jondlar]].
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** Teesa's dead former mate, [[EarthsChildren [[Literature/EarthsChildren Jondlar]].
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* HumanAliens: the Venusians ''are'' human, and the Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone but are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
** Though most of them see humans as race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
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* HumanAliens: the The Venusians ''are'' human, and the Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone but are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
** Though most of them see humans as a race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
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* LostWorld: the ''entire planet'' Venus.
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* LostWorld: the The ''entire planet'' of Venus.
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* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
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* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
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As scientific observation of our nearest planetary neighbors intensifies during the early 20th century, it becomes clear that both worlds have oxy-nitrogen atmospheres much like our own. By 1948, the possibility of life on both is so strong that the Space Race kicks in early and ''keeps going'', radically altering political history from that point on as the ColdWar begins to lose importance and military spending is diverted to exploration. And when the Russians finally land a probe on the surface of Venus in 1962, the first image its cameras send back is of a dinosaur-infested jungle. And the ''second'' image is of ''[[NubileSavage a beautiful blonde woman]] in a FurBikini being chased by a savage horde of neanderthals''.
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As scientific observation of our nearest planetary neighbors intensifies during the early 20th century, it becomes clear that both worlds have oxy-nitrogen atmospheres much like our own. By 1948, the possibility of life on both is so strong that the Space Race kicks in early and ''keeps going'', radically altering political history from that point on as the ColdWar UsefulNotes/ColdWar begins to lose importance and military spending is diverted to exploration. And when the Russians finally land a probe on the surface of Venus in 1962, the first image its cameras send back is of a dinosaur-infested jungle. And the ''second'' image is of ''[[NubileSavage a beautiful blonde woman]] in a FurBikini being chased by a savage horde of neanderthals''.
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** The title "In The Court of the Crimson Kings" is a shout-out to the band Music/KingCrimson, and their album [[Music/InTheCourtOfTheCrimsonKing "In the Court of the Crimson King"]]?
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** The title "In The Court of the Crimson Kings" is a shout-out to the band Music/KingCrimson, and their album [[Music/InTheCourtOfTheCrimsonKing "In ''[[Music/InTheCourtOfTheCrimsonKing In the Court of the Crimson King"]]?King]]''
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** How about The title "In The Court of the Crimson Kings" is a shout-out to the band KingCrimson, Music/KingCrimson, and their album [[Music/InTheCourtOfTheCrimsonKing "In the Court of the Crimson King"?King"]]?
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* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like DungeonsAndDragons motifs in some ways.
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* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' motifs in some ways.
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Not to be confused with ''LordsOfCreation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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Not to be confused with ''LordsOfCreation'', ''Lords of Creation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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** ''[[IceAge Scrat]]'' of all rodents has a cameo on Venus, believe it or else.
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* ArtisticLicensePaleontology:
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
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* SomewhereAPalaeontologistIsCrying: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
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* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is why swords are not obsolete), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
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* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is [[ArchaicWeaponForAnAdvancedAge why swords are not obsolete), obsolete]]), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
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* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, empathic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
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* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, empathic emphatic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
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A series of AlternateHistory science fiction novels by Creator/SMStirling, consisting thus far of ''The Sky People'' and ''In The Courts of the Crimson Kings''. A {{Reconstruction}} of classic PlanetaryRomance novels and tropes for the modern audience, the novels explore a world built around a simple concept: what if Mars and Venus really were approximately like we envisioned them before all that boring reality got in the way?
As scientific observation of our nearest planetary neighbors intensifies during the early 20th century, it becomes clear that both worlds have oxy-nitrogen atmospheres much like our own. By 1948, the possibility of life on both is so strong that the Space Race kicks in early and ''keeps going'', radically altering political history from that point on as the ColdWar begins to lose importance and military spending is diverted to exploration. And when the Russians finally land a probe on the surface of Venus in 1962, the first image its cameras send back is of a dinosaur-infested jungle. And the ''second'' image is of ''[[NubileSavage a beautiful blonde woman]] in a FurBikini being chased by a savage horde of neanderthals''.
Two months later, when the American Viking probe tells us about [[TheRedPlanet the canal-building biotech-using humanoid Martians]], the race to land on both worlds shifts into high gear.
But once contact has been made and permanent scientific studies begin, oddities begin to creep up. For one thing, the humans of Venus are entirely ''too'' human to be a product of parallel evolution -- a conclusion reinforced by the simultaneous discoveries that some tribes speak a language clearly descended from Indo-European, and that only two hundred million years ago the planet was an uninhabitable acid-veiled hothouse, becoming Earthlike practically in the blink of an eye as far as the cosmic timescale goes.
As evidence mounts that someone has been ''tinkering'' with the worlds of the solar system for millions of years, continuing right into the last few millennia, the question humanity must ask is: Who are the Lords of Creation, and what do they intend for their great multiplanetary experiment?
Not to be confused with ''LordsOfCreation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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!!This series provides examples of:
* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings''.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a pet.
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undilutedly vile and filthy creatures.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
* BadassBookworm: Every Earth person not actually on Earth, as you ''have'' to be this just to qualify for the space program.
* [[strike:Bamboo]] [[BambooTechnology Shamboo Technology]]: Space travel is EXPENSIVE, which means the Venusian colonists have to make do with bronze age materials for their equipment wherever they can.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.]]
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like DungeonsAndDragons motifs in some ways.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPunk: Mars.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* FrazettaMan: the Wergu.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. There's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead.
* HumanAliens: the Venusians ''are'' human, and the Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone but are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
* HumanChess: ''Atanj'', the Martian version, see above.
* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, empathic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: all the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
* LostTechnology: All over the place, in the form of the Lords of Creations' stuff, but also the fact that the Martians are said to have lost a great deal of their own biotech.
* LostWorld: the ''entire planet'' Venus.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* NubileSavage: Teesa of the Cloud Mountain People.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is why swords are not obsolete), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots''.
* {{Precursors}}: the Lords of Creation, except that it seems they're not so much Pre- as ''Present''cursors. They're also [[NeglectfulPrecursors neglectful]], as ''something'' has gone wrong with their monitoring system and its "schedule" for the three worlds.
* TheRedPlanet
* RoyalBlood: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
* ShoutOut: ''Tons''. Mostly to Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs, but several to other sources.
** Teesa's dead former mate, [[EarthsChildren Jondlar]].
** The zeppelin ''Vepaja'' is named after the major friendly nation on Burroughs' Venus.
** ''[[IceAge Scrat]]'' of all rodents has a cameo on Venus, believe it or else.
** Christopher Blair. ''Videogame/WingCommander'' Christopher Blair no less.
** RodentsOfUnusualSize are found in the caverns under Olympus. Mind you, the "unusual" size is ''small''.
** A ''[[UpToEleven Scream Out]]'': "Hey, that's a stereotype. [[Franchise/StarTrek Like the unemotional half-Martian Science Officer on the Federation Starship]] ''[[Franchise/StarTrek New Frontier]]''..."
*** Even in our world, Spock was almost a Martian. The green makeup tested better on Nimoy than the red.
*** There's also a moment where someone says, "Resistance is futile," and one of his hearers grumbles, "Now he's quoting from a ''New Frontier'' episode...."
** How about the band KingCrimson, and their album "In the Court of the Crimson King"?
** The convention scene in the opening chapter of "Courts of the Crimson Kings" which features just about every significant science-fiction author of the time.
** The "very weird dig" in Arizona that was the only exciting thing to happen to Jeremy Wainman before he went to Mars appears to be [[http://www.literature.org/authors/burroughs-edgar-rice/a-princess-of-mars/chapter-28.html the cave in which John Carter's body lay during his first astral trip to Barsoom]].
** When the excavating party are attacked by [[ItMakesSenseInContext feral engines]], there are [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy 42]] of them, and the description of them sounds a lot like larger versions of [[Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds H.G. Wells']] Martians. (It's even mentioned that if bred with too much intelligence, they'd try to escape. Escape to Earth, perhaps?)
* SingleBiomePlanet: Averted sort of; Mars has several ''varieties'' of "cold and dry", for example.
* SomewhereAPalaeontologistIsCrying: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: The [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians.
* TransplantedHumans
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "FERAL ENGINES!"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
* ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld: Used by the Earthling explorers on Venus and, in slightly more fantastical airship form, by the Martians.
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As scientific observation of our nearest planetary neighbors intensifies during the early 20th century, it becomes clear that both worlds have oxy-nitrogen atmospheres much like our own. By 1948, the possibility of life on both is so strong that the Space Race kicks in early and ''keeps going'', radically altering political history from that point on as the ColdWar begins to lose importance and military spending is diverted to exploration. And when the Russians finally land a probe on the surface of Venus in 1962, the first image its cameras send back is of a dinosaur-infested jungle. And the ''second'' image is of ''[[NubileSavage a beautiful blonde woman]] in a FurBikini being chased by a savage horde of neanderthals''.
Two months later, when the American Viking probe tells us about [[TheRedPlanet the canal-building biotech-using humanoid Martians]], the race to land on both worlds shifts into high gear.
But once contact has been made and permanent scientific studies begin, oddities begin to creep up. For one thing, the humans of Venus are entirely ''too'' human to be a product of parallel evolution -- a conclusion reinforced by the simultaneous discoveries that some tribes speak a language clearly descended from Indo-European, and that only two hundred million years ago the planet was an uninhabitable acid-veiled hothouse, becoming Earthlike practically in the blink of an eye as far as the cosmic timescale goes.
As evidence mounts that someone has been ''tinkering'' with the worlds of the solar system for millions of years, continuing right into the last few millennia, the question humanity must ask is: Who are the Lords of Creation, and what do they intend for their great multiplanetary experiment?
Not to be confused with ''LordsOfCreation'', a very weird [[TabletopGames role-playing game]] published in the mid-Eighties.
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!!This series provides examples of:
* AdventurerArchaeologist: Lampshaded and played straight in ''The Courts of the Crimson Kings''.
* AllAnimalsAreDomesticated: The others are not happy about Marc Vitrac raising a greatwolf pup as a pet.
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The Neanderthals of Venus are presented as undilutedly vile and filthy creatures.
** Though they're only seen from the viewpoints of their enemies and/or victims.
** At one point a group of Neanderthals give their lives so the women and children can escape, and the main characters reflect that they might have misjudged them.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: the Invisible Crown of the Tollamune Emperors supplies its ''own'' awesomeness, but the official ceremony is pretty darn impressive.
* BadassBookworm: Every Earth person not actually on Earth, as you ''have'' to be this just to qualify for the space program.
* [[strike:Bamboo]] [[BambooTechnology Shamboo Technology]]: Space travel is EXPENSIVE, which means the Venusian colonists have to make do with bronze age materials for their equipment wherever they can.
* BigCreepyCrawlies: [[JustifiedTrope The combination of lower gravity and higher oxygen pressure on Venus allows insects to grow to the size of Chihuahuas.]]
* ChessMotifs: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that [[VariantChess atanj, the Martian chesslike game]] from which many a motif is drawn, is ''vastly'' more complex than mere Earthly chess. With ships, merchants, boycotters, bribes, the possibility of pieces defecting on their own, as many as eight players, and the use of dice, it's more like DungeonsAndDragons motifs in some ways.
* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Teesa and the rest of the Cloud Mountain People have olive skin and light blonde hair. The Venusians of Kartahown and its surroundings are mostly dark-haired, but some are either this or DarkSkinnedRedhead.
* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The City That Is A Mountain is ''made'' of this trope.
* DesertPunk: Mars.
* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Two pirate vessels in ''Crimson Kings'' are called "Robbery With Armed Violence" and "Insensately Vicious Plunderer".
* FrazettaMan: the Wergu.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The Venusians get bows and arrows, plus steel-smelting technology from the humans. There's some concern about exactly where this is going to lead.
* HumanAliens: the Venusians ''are'' human, and the Martians have genetically engineered themselves to hell and gone but are still close enough to find humans attractive.
** Though most of them see humans as race of uncultured, gluttonous dwarves that practically ooze sweat.
* HumanChess: ''Atanj'', the Martian version, see above.
* IKEAErotica: Happens due to the nature of the Martian language. ''"I request more energetic intromission, empathic tense!"'' is the closest you can get to talking dirty.
* LawyerFriendlyCameo: all the science fiction writers gathered to watch the Mars probe images in the second novel's prologue.
** A justified example: ''New Frontier'' is this universe's version of ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and is fundamentally somewhat different due to differences in world culture, but is [[TropeMaker every]] [[TropeCodifier bit]] [[FountainOfMemes as]] [[TropeOverdosed influential]] as it is in our world.
* LostTechnology: All over the place, in the form of the Lords of Creations' stuff, but also the fact that the Martians are said to have lost a great deal of their own biotech.
* LostWorld: the ''entire planet'' Venus.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:Christopher Blair]].
* NubileSavage: Teesa of the Cloud Mountain People.
* OrganicTechnology: Deconstructed. Martians rely on this, in the absence of major metal and fossil fuel resources. Almost all technology more complicated than a sword is biological, to a very high level, with living guns (recharging after firing takes time, which is why swords are not obsolete), living engines to supplement the sailpower of desert-crossing wheeled ships, rugs that crawl onto your feet to warm them, giant creatures that eat rocks and [[BowelBreakingBricks vomit road-paving material]]. However, Stirling points out that it requires food and oxygen, as well as being less durable then metal. It is useful enough however that some of it has been imported by Earth.
* PlanetaryRomance: ''lots''.
* {{Precursors}}: the Lords of Creation, except that it seems they're not so much Pre- as ''Present''cursors. They're also [[NeglectfulPrecursors neglectful]], as ''something'' has gone wrong with their monitoring system and its "schedule" for the three worlds.
* TheRedPlanet
* RoyalBlood: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] by the Invisible Crown and the Ruby Throne, which scan your DNA and ''kill'' you if you don't have the Tollamune genome. Given that the instrumentalities of both are vital to keeping Mars viable in the long term, the Tollamunes themselves have come to regret the system.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Martian Demotic is an extremely precise, detailed, and ''blunt'' language.
* ShoutOut: ''Tons''. Mostly to Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs, but several to other sources.
** Teesa's dead former mate, [[EarthsChildren Jondlar]].
** The zeppelin ''Vepaja'' is named after the major friendly nation on Burroughs' Venus.
** ''[[IceAge Scrat]]'' of all rodents has a cameo on Venus, believe it or else.
** Christopher Blair. ''Videogame/WingCommander'' Christopher Blair no less.
** RodentsOfUnusualSize are found in the caverns under Olympus. Mind you, the "unusual" size is ''small''.
** A ''[[UpToEleven Scream Out]]'': "Hey, that's a stereotype. [[Franchise/StarTrek Like the unemotional half-Martian Science Officer on the Federation Starship]] ''[[Franchise/StarTrek New Frontier]]''..."
*** Even in our world, Spock was almost a Martian. The green makeup tested better on Nimoy than the red.
*** There's also a moment where someone says, "Resistance is futile," and one of his hearers grumbles, "Now he's quoting from a ''New Frontier'' episode...."
** How about the band KingCrimson, and their album "In the Court of the Crimson King"?
** The convention scene in the opening chapter of "Courts of the Crimson Kings" which features just about every significant science-fiction author of the time.
** The "very weird dig" in Arizona that was the only exciting thing to happen to Jeremy Wainman before he went to Mars appears to be [[http://www.literature.org/authors/burroughs-edgar-rice/a-princess-of-mars/chapter-28.html the cave in which John Carter's body lay during his first astral trip to Barsoom]].
** When the excavating party are attacked by [[ItMakesSenseInContext feral engines]], there are [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy 42]] of them, and the description of them sounds a lot like larger versions of [[Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds H.G. Wells']] Martians. (It's even mentioned that if bred with too much intelligence, they'd try to escape. Escape to Earth, perhaps?)
* SingleBiomePlanet: Averted sort of; Mars has several ''varieties'' of "cold and dry", for example.
* SomewhereAPalaeontologistIsCrying: [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the Lords of Creation seeded Venus with Earthly lifeforms two hundred million years ago, and have been coming back and adding new batches of Earthly life roughly every two million years since then, including human specimens only a few thousand years ago; with no mass extinction on Venus, dinosaurs coexist semi-peacefully with critters from every era since. The harsher Martian climate, coupled with extensive bioengineering, averts this.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] InUniverse near the beginning of ''The Sky People'', when an actual palaeontologist examines some fossils (and the surrounding rock) and realizes that what she's seeing isn't possible.
* StockDinosaurs: The species that flourished on Venus happen to be all the popular ones, like triceratops.
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: The [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of the Martians.
* TransplantedHumans
* VerticalKidnapping: [[OhCrap "FERAL ENGINES!"]]
* VestigialEmpire: The Tollamune emperors once ruled all of Mars. By the time of the story they are reduced to ruling the territory around their capital at Olympus Mons, where all the old court officials and functionaries continue, though largely without actual functions.
* ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld: Used by the Earthling explorers on Venus and, in slightly more fantastical airship form, by the Martians.
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