History Literature / TheFireNeverDies

[[spoiler:- From The Enemy Was In Our House: How We Surrendered Britain To Falangism by {{UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill}}]]

[[spoiler:- From The Enemy Was In Our House: How We Surrendered Britain To Falangism by [[{{UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill}} Winston Churchill]]]]

* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: UsefulNotes/AlCapone betrays the Five Points Gang to the IWW. He later appears leading a commando unit called "The Outfit".

** Creator/TomClancy, Hillary Clinton, Rand Paul, Dennis Prager, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and [[Creator/GamesWorkshop Matt Ward]] are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.

* WarIsHell: The Second American Civil War had many brutal moments and war crimes to rival the horrors of the Great War in Europe. Notable mention include the brutal fighting and devastating famine in California which earned the state the nickname as "The Golden Abbatoir" [[note]]Abbatoir means 'Slaughterhouse'[[/note]], the use of chemical weapons and city-flattening artillery barrages by the Reds, atrocities by the KKK and the Whites such as the Huffington Massacres, the American Flu...

* FictionalVideoGame: One of the in-universe AlternateHistoryDotCom threads references a game called ''War Plan'', implied to be this universe's version of ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron''.

* ItsPersonal: Commander Ernest King was not a hardcore socialist and was more or less swept up to the Reds' side by the Great Mutiny which saw the US Atlantic Fleet defecting to the socialists, but he had a very personal beef with his former high command, having railed for years against the conservative Navy establishment and holding his superiors in utter disdain for refusing to implement radical reforms he believes to be crucial to modernise and strengthen the navy. Add to the loss of the ''Texas'' and ''New York'' at the Battle of Chesapeake Bay, King (now an admiral) was left ''very'' eager and wanting to destroy the White navy as an effective fighting force to make up for years of frustration and earlier setbacks. He would get his chance to do so at the Battle of Miami Beach.

** Creator/TomClancy, Rand Paul, Dennis Prager, Condoleeza Rice, Creator/AaronSorkin, and [[Creator/GamesWorkshop Matt Ward]] are the authors of some of the in-universe historical texts.

** UsefulNotes/GeorgePatton becomes a director after the war.

* TheRightfulKingReturns: PlayedWith. After Hawaii votes to declare independence, a second referendum is held on the question of restoring the Hawaiian monarchy (deposed after the US takeover). The vote goes against a monarchy, and Hawaii becomes a socialist republic. However, the monarchy is later given Iolani Palace and a stipend to promote Hawaiian culture. While the Hawaiian monarchy has no position in the Hawaiian government, they do exist once again.

* ThePlague: The Spanish Flu appears in this timeline as well, only it is called the ''American'' Flu, owing to its appearance in Kansas[[note]]While the precise origin of the 1918 flu pandemic remains disputed, the first confirmed case was diagnosed at an Army camp in Kansas[[/note]]. Leon Bronstein almost became a victim of it, but recovered just in time to coordinate the Delmarva Offensive. It was noted that while it indiscriminately infected and decimated both the Reds and Whites, it ultimately hurted the Whites more as the Reds have better access to medical care, while the Whites failed to do proper preparations due to both lacking the industries to produce them (most of them fell to the Reds' control) and mistakes by the Whites leadership which caused delays and problems to combat the disease.

* ChummyCommies: We haven't yet seen exactly what the future socialist America will look like, but it definitely won't be an authoritarian Soviet-style regime. That said, they aren't averse to getting their hands dirty.

** The Battle of Miami is extremely one-sided, with the White fleet (including most of the US Navy's remaining combat strength) being almost completely wiped out for few enemy casualties. The Battle of Chesapeake Bay also qualifies, except the Whites knew that their chances were negligible, and they prioritized [[TakingYouWithMe taking as many Red ships with them as they could]].

** The Federalist Party, consisting of non-socialist figures from pre-revolution who remained like Clarence Edward [=McCartney=] and Calvin Coolidge, is the most openly reactionary and hostile to the socialist revolution (though not to the point of sedition), condemning the 'excesses' of the revolution and calling for restoration of old flag, capital and traditions of old America.

* ForegoneConclusion: Several excerpts and [[invoked]]WordOfGod make it clear that there will be a successful socialist revolution in the late 1910s.

* ItsPersonal: Vice Admiral Ernest King was not a hardcore socialist and was more or less swept up to the Reds' side by the Great Mutiny which saw the US Atlantic Fleet defecting to the socialists, but he had a very personal beef with his former high command, having railed for years against the conservative Navy establishment and holding his superiors in utter disdain for refusing to implement radical reforms he believes to be crucial to modernise and strengthen the navy. Add to the loss of the ''Texas'' and ''New York'' at the Battle of Chesapeake Bay, Ernest King was left ''very'' eager and wanting to destroy the White navy as an effective fighting force to make up for years of frustration and earlier setbacks. He would get his chance to do so at the Battle of Miami Beach.

* MonumentalDamage: The White House is destroyed by the Reds' artillery fire during the final assault on Washington (as is the War Department). [[spoiler:This had the incidental effect of killing off General Simmons and President Wilson and decapitating the military leadership of the city's White forces in a single stroke]].

* MonumentalDamage: The Battle of Washington DC resulted in considerable damage to the capital of the US and many of its famous landmarks during the month of battle overall and ten days worth of urban warfare, most notably the flattening of the White House and the State, War, and Navy Building (Currently called the Eisenhower Executive Office Building) by artillery fire.

'''''The Fire Never Dies''''' is an AlternateHistory timeline on Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom by Tropers/{{Meshakhad}}, depicting an America that eventually experiences a successful socialist revolution, as several of the schisms that the American socialist movement suffered are averted or mended. The absence of the United States (and American war materiel) from World War I leads to a negotiated settlement rather than either side claiming victory.

* MonumentalBattle:
** During the Battle of Washington, firefights break out in the Smithsonian and the Capitol.
* MonumentalDamage:
** The White House is destroyed by artillery fire during the final assault on Washington (as is the War Department).

Part I: ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ Labor's Star Ascendant]]'' (complete)
Part II: ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-part-ii-the-red-colossus.534409/ The Red Colossus]]'' (in progress)

As of October 13, 2022, part 1 of the story, ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-fire-never-dies-labors-star-ascendant.525137/ Labor's Star Ascendant]]'' has been completed. The timeline would continue in a new thread under the title ''"The Fire Never Dies II: The Red Colossus"''.

* DoubleBlindWhatIf: [[WordOfGod Meshakhad herself]] said that nobody would ever identify the actual point of divergence of Harry Orchard blowing himself up. As such, in an althistoria.net (the FictionalCounterpart to Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom) interlude, several users instead discuss what would've happened had President Wilson [[KnowWhenToFoldEm given into the Longshoremen's Strike and negotiated]] (the strike against US intervention in UsefulNotes/WorldWar1). One proposed result being that the entente wins, but with Debs becoming US President, [[AllohistoricalAllusion Heinrich Himmler ruling Germany]], and Russia and Germany allying against [[spoiler:a non-Falangist Entente]].

** The Federalist Party, consisting of non-socialist figures from pre-revolution who remained like Clarence Edward McCartney and Calvin Coolidge, is the most openly reactionary and hostile to the socialist revolution (though not to the point of sedition), condemning the 'excesses' of the revolution and calling for restoration of old flag, capital and traditions of old America.

* TokenFemaleTeammate: Activist Mary Harris Jones, better known as Mother Jones, is the sole woman to command an army during the Second American Revolution, leading the Army of Knoxville in the Appalachians. After the war, she becomes the ASU's first Deputy Premier.

** As a result of changes from the points of divergence, the events of the Russian Revolution happened differently, such that it was the Anarchists under Peter Kropotkin who led an uprising at St Petersburg in August to seize control of Russia, which is implied to be doomed to fail between the lack of legitimacy and Kerensky managing to escape to Moscow to order General Kornilov to bring his army to crush them and other revolts.

* DoubleBlindWhatIf: [[WordOfGod Meshakhad herself]] said that nobody would ever identify the actual point of divergence (Harry Orchard blowing himself up. As such, in an althistoria.net (the FictionalCounterpart to AlternateHistory.com) interlude, several users actually discuss what would've happened had President Wilson given into the Longshoremen's Strike (the strike against US intervention in WW1). One proposed result was that the entente wins, but with Debs becoming US President, Heinrich Himmler ruling Germany, and Russia and Germany allying against a non-Falangist Entente.