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''The Difference Engine'' is a 1990 {{alternate history}} novel written collaboratively by Creator/WilliamGibson and Creator/BruceSterling. It is a prime example of the {{steampunk}} sub-genre, often considered the GenrePopularizer.
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''The Difference Engine'' is a 1990 {{alternate history}} novel written collaboratively by Creator/WilliamGibson and Creator/BruceSterling. It is a prime example of the {{steampunk}} sub-genre, SubGenre, often considered the GenrePopularizer.
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* WitchHunt: The hunt for 'Luddite conspirators' by Charles Egremont.
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* WitchHunt: The hunt for 'Luddite conspirators' by Charles Egremont. They're blamed for the smog that's actually caused by all the heavy industry.
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The kinotropes of this novel are not equivalent to movie projectors, as there is no film, light source, or lenses involved. What's described is closer to a low-resolution display which uses rotating colored beads for pixels.
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* CallARabbitASmeerp: To emphasize the alternate history setting, many real-life terms are replaced with similar words using different roots. Hackers are called "clackers." Movie projectors are called "kinotropes." Communists are called Communards. Aerodynamics is called pneumodynamics. etc.
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* CallARabbitASmeerp: To emphasize the alternate history setting, many real-life terms are replaced with similar words using different roots. Hackers are called "clackers." Movie projectors are called "kinotropes." Communists are called Communards. Aerodynamics is called pneumodynamics. etc.
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* CoitusEnsues: Mallory abruptly has a romantic fling with Hetty, going so far as to abandon the recently injured Ebenezer Fraser to do so. [[spoiler:This detour is largely why he gets trapped in London in the wake of the riots.]]
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* AluminumChristmasTrees:
** During the London riots, Mallory sees a team of steam-engines of Crimean War fame pulling artillery guns. In RealLife, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_engine the traction engine]] had already been in production for farm and circus caravan use by the 1850s, it would have been trivial to adapt them to pull guns and [[http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/multimedia/image-gallery.aspx?id=42364&seq=7 at least one of them operated in Crimea]].
** Scheduled steam carriage services existed for a brief period in the 1820s and 1830s until the Turnpike and Red Flag Acts effectively quashed them in favor of horse-drawn wagons and railroads.
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink Great Stink]] also took place in real life, just three years later and minus the riots.
** Edo Japan possessed clockwork dolls known as ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakuri_puppet karakuri]]'' (albeit not as sophisticated as the Engine-driven one in the book).
** During the London riots, Mallory sees a team of steam-engines of Crimean War fame pulling artillery guns. In RealLife, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_engine the traction engine]] had already been in production for farm and circus caravan use by the 1850s, it would have been trivial to adapt them to pull guns and [[http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/multimedia/image-gallery.aspx?id=42364&seq=7 at least one of them operated in Crimea]].
** Scheduled steam carriage services existed for a brief period in the 1820s and 1830s until the Turnpike and Red Flag Acts effectively quashed them in favor of horse-drawn wagons and railroads.
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink Great Stink]] also took place in real life, just three years later and minus the riots.
** Edo Japan possessed clockwork dolls known as ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakuri_puppet karakuri]]'' (albeit not as sophisticated as the Engine-driven one in the book).
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham,]] an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the rump USA.
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] couple in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham,]] an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the rump USA.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, so named after the dinosaur he discovered. He doesn't much like the nickname.
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* EmbarrassingNickname: Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, so named after the dinosaur he discovered. He doesn't much like the nickname.
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* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: Kind of. Lord and Lady Byron have BDSM sessions and so on, while Mallory and Hetty had a very romantic night. On the other hand, Mallory's night with a Native American widow is very much FanDisservice, for himself included.
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* SexualKarma: Kind of. Lord and Lady Byron have BDSM sessions and so on, while Mallory and Hetty had a very romantic night. On the other hand, Mallory's night with a Native American widow is very much FanDisservice, for himself included.
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope
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* AlternateHistoryWank: Although the Engines and associated steam technologies needed [[UpToEleven a stronger version of the then nascent British industry]] to work, the history of the rest of the world is accelerated as through magic, with subtle hints at the 20th century developments:
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* AlternateHistoryWank: Although the Engines and associated steam technologies needed [[UpToEleven a stronger version of the then nascent British industry]] industry to work, the history of the rest of the world is accelerated as through magic, with subtle hints at the 20th century developments:
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a panty shot.
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a panty shot.PantyShot.
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a PantyShot.
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a PantyShot.panty shot.
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* YeGoodeOldeDays: cross with JiveTurkey: only "Dandy Mick" and Sybil use [[PurpleProse the flowery language of the early-Victorian times]], known to the modern public from period literature and the speeches of UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone and his peers. Mallory, most male characters from Engine-punchers to lowly workers, ''Disraeli himself'' use a language similar to that of modern men.
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* YeGoodeOldeDays: cross Crossed with JiveTurkey: only "Dandy Mick" and Sybil use [[PurpleProse the flowery language of the early-Victorian times]], known to the modern public from period literature and the speeches of UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone and his peers. Mallory, most male characters from Engine-punchers to lowly workers, ''Disraeli himself'' use a language similar to that of modern men.
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* YeGoodeOldeDays: cross with JiveTurkey: only "Dandy Mick" and Sybil use [[PurpleProse the flowery language of the early-Victorian times]], known to the modern public from period literature and the speeches of UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone and his peers. Mallory, most male characters from Engine-punchers to lowly workers, ''Disraeli himself'' use a language similar to that of modern men.
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* AlternateHistoryWank: Although the Engines and associated steam technologies needed [[UpToEleven a stronger version of the then nascent British industry]] to work, the history of the rest of the world is accelerated as through magic, with subtle hints at the 20th century developments:
** Japan has its own revolution in the early 1850s, transforms overnight into a technological society, and acquires her own Engine (even the Meiji Revolution still took almost 3 decades in RealLife).
** The Union and Confederacy split 10 years earlier, fight a bloody war and then [[DividedStatesofAmerica stay separate, which together with the independence of California and Texas]] eliminates any chance of America becoming a superpower.
** Karl Marx raises himself to fame as a philosopher despite having no conditions to breed sponsors and a disenfranchised working class as he witnessed in RealLife.
** France becomes an Empire at the same moment as in RealLife and they still aim to conquer Mexico, just 10 years too quickly.
** Japan has its own revolution in the early 1850s, transforms overnight into a technological society, and acquires her own Engine (even the Meiji Revolution still took almost 3 decades in RealLife).
** The Union and Confederacy split 10 years earlier, fight a bloody war and then [[DividedStatesofAmerica stay separate, which together with the independence of California and Texas]] eliminates any chance of America becoming a superpower.
** Karl Marx raises himself to fame as a philosopher despite having no conditions to breed sponsors and a disenfranchised working class as he witnessed in RealLife.
** France becomes an Empire at the same moment as in RealLife and they still aim to conquer Mexico, just 10 years too quickly.
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* PointOfDivergence: Charles Babbage successfully completing the titular Difference Engine led to many changes in world history such as the political climate of the world and especially technology.
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* DirtyCommies: The Manhattan Commune, led by no one else but Karl Marx
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* DirtyCommies: The Manhattan Commune, led by no one else but Karl MarxMarx.
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** "Sand-hog" for underground construction worker is an ''American'' slang word first heard in the ''1870s''.
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** "Sand-hog" for an underground construction worker is an ''American'' slang word first heard in the ''1870s''.
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* ManBehindTheMan: Lord Byron, dashing hero and exceptional public speaker, is uncovered in the appendices after his death as a rather incompetent administrator, pushed and manipulated in political decision by Lady Annabella Byron, who rants on having to endure "his beastly habits" for decades. Victorian Age [[NoWomansLand being what it was]] the position brought little profit to her.
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* ManBehindTheMan: Lord Byron, dashing hero and exceptional public speaker, is uncovered in the appendices after his death as a rather incompetent administrator, pushed and manipulated in a political decision by Lady Annabella Byron, who rants on having to endure "his beastly habits" for decades. Victorian Age [[NoWomansLand being what it was]] the position brought little profit to her.
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham,]] an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced USA.
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham,]] an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced rump USA.
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* SchizoTech: Played [[RealityIsUnrealistic realistically]]. Tom and Brian Mallory built a racing steam-car in the shape of [[TheThirties the 1930s]] streamlined racing cars, but due to the huge fuel consumption of steam engines they needed to take a coal wagon in tow to drive from Sussex to London. Even the most primitive gasoline engines in RealLife only took a couple of gallons of fuel for the same route.
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* SchizoTech: Played [[RealityIsUnrealistic realistically]]. Tom and Brian Mallory built a racing steam-car in the shape of [[TheThirties [[TheGreatDepression the 1930s]] streamlined racing cars, but due to the huge fuel consumption of steam engines they needed to take a coal wagon in tow to drive from Sussex to London. Even the most primitive gasoline engines in RealLife only took a couple of gallons of fuel for the same route.
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* GenreDeconstruction: the original concept was to see how {{Cyberpunk}} themes would work in a historical setting.
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* GenreDeconstruction: the The original concept was to see how {{Cyberpunk}} themes would work in a historical setting.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Numerous real life figures are mentioned or appear in the story such as Charles Babbage, Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington), Lord Byron, Creator/KarlMarx, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, UsefulNotes/CharlesDarwin, Sam Houston, Percy Bysshe, among others.
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* PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy: The Japanese quartet love everything western so much they want to get rid of the Japanese language.
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* PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy: The Japanese quartet love everything western Western so much they want to get rid of the Japanese language.
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* DirtyCommies: The Manhattan Commune, lead by no one else but Karl Marx
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* DirtyCommies: The Manhattan Commune, lead led by no one else but Karl Marx
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, so named after the dinosaur he discovered. He doesn't much like the nickname.
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: AwesomeMcCoolName: Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, so named after the dinosaur he discovered. He doesn't much like the nickname.
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* {{Fanservice}}: in-story. The clock Mallory buys has an allegoric depiction of Science, Progress and Britain. The latter is, for some reason, wearing almost nothing. Other examples include the Americans' theater and the artists on Montmartre (described as "dressed... erm, undressed similarly to each other").
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* {{Fanservice}}: in-story.In-story. The clock Mallory buys has an allegoric depiction of Science, Progress and Britain. The latter is, for some reason, wearing almost nothing. Other examples include the Americans' theater and the artists on Montmartre (described as "dressed... erm, undressed similarly to each other").
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* FootnoteFever: to let the average writer read the book properly without wondering "Who the hell ''are'' those people?!"
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* FootnoteFever: to To let the average writer read the book properly without wondering "Who the hell ''are'' those people?!"
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a PantyFlash.
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a PantyFlash.PantyShot.
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* GenrePopularizer: SteamPunk
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham]], an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced USA.
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham]], Vallandigham,]] an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced USA.
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* OldTimeyAnkleTaboo: Hetty lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks; it's treated the same way as a PantyFlash.
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* ShowSomeLeg: Hetty also lifts her skirt to show her ankles when Mallory asks.
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It posits a {{Victorian Britain}} ''ca.'' 1855 in which a great wave of technological and social change has occurred after entrepreneurial inventor Charles Babbage succeeded in his ambition to build a mechanical computer (actually his Analytical Engine rather than the titular Difference Engine). Among the many various changes that arise as a result of this innovation are an even more powerful [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British Empire]], a DividedStatesOfAmerica, an early Communist Revolution in Manhattan led by Karl Marx himself, steam-powered gurneys (this timeline's equivalent of cars), and the premature invention of "camphorated cellulose" (aka celluloid - the first thermoplastic).
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It posits a {{Victorian Britain}} UsefulNotes/VictorianBritain ''ca.'' 1855 in which a great wave of technological and social change has occurred after entrepreneurial inventor Charles Babbage succeeded in his ambition to build a mechanical computer (actually his Analytical Engine rather than the titular Difference Engine). Among the many various changes that arise as a result of this innovation are an even more powerful [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British Empire]], a DividedStatesOfAmerica, an early Communist Revolution in Manhattan led by Karl Marx himself, steam-powered gurneys (this timeline's equivalent of cars), and the premature invention of "camphorated cellulose" (aka celluloid - the first thermoplastic).
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* ScienceMarchesOn / TechnologyMarchesOn: [[invoked]] Many examples in-story.
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* ScienceMarchesOn / TechnologyMarchesOn: Many examples in-story.
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The story follows Sybil Gerard, a political courtesan and daughter of an executed Luddite leader (she is borrowed from Creator/BenjaminDisraeli's novel ''Sybil''); Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, a [[AdventurerArchaeologist paleontologist and explorer]] who comes into a lot of money thanks to a good bet on an advanced steam gurney model; and Laurence Oliphant, a historical figure with a real career, as portrayed in the book, as a travel writer whose [[CovertGroupWithMundaneFront work was a cover for espionage activities]] "undertaken in the service of Her Majesty".
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The story follows Sybil Gerard, a political courtesan and daughter of an executed Luddite leader (she is borrowed from Creator/BenjaminDisraeli's UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli's novel ''Sybil''); Edward "Leviathan" Mallory, a [[AdventurerArchaeologist paleontologist and explorer]] who comes into a lot of money thanks to a good bet on an advanced steam gurney model; and Laurence Oliphant, a historical figure with a real career, as portrayed in the book, as a travel writer whose [[CovertGroupWithMundaneFront work was a cover for espionage activities]] "undertaken in the service of Her Majesty".
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. Creator/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham]], an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced USA.
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Lord Byron is Prime Minister. Charles Babbage is another powerful politician. Creator/BenjaminDisraeli UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli is most famous for his romance novels (he [[AluminumChristmasTrees did write a couple]] in RealLife, including ''Sybil'' from which the Sybil Gerard/Charles Egremont storyline is taken). Creator/JohnKeats is a "kinotrope" artist. Coleridge and Wordsworth are business partners. William Colgate is a lord. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Vallandigham Clement Vallandigham]], an Ohio politician and notorious Copperhead (anti-Civil War Democrat) who plotted to start a "Northwest Confederacy" of the Ohio River Valley states, is President of the much-reduced USA.