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The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although only here it is linked with the Everlasting Battle, and the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic Eddic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although only here it is linked with the Everlasting Battle, and the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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Judging the right-or-wrong-ness of Odin's shaming of Freyja by recurring to other versions of the myths is ultimately speculative. Frigg is not mentioned at all in "Sörla Þáttur"; so it is not clear whether he even is the husband of Frigg in this tale (maybe there is no Frigg in this version of the myths—who knows).
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* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs even besides Freyja, not to mention the fact that Freyja herself had lovers in older stories, which was presented as completely a-okay.
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* SlutShaming: Odin shames his concubine Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs even besides Freyja, not to mention the fact that Freyja herself had lovers in older stories, which was presented as completely a-okay.
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Available in translations by [[http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/hogni_eirikr.pdf Magnússon/Morris (1875; pdf file)]], [[http://www.germanicmythology.com/FORNALDARSAGAS/SORLATHATTURKERSHAW.html Nora Kershaw (1921)]], and [[http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/Sorli.htm Peter Tunstall (2005)]].
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Available in translations by [[http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/hogni_eirikr.pdf Magnússon/Morris (1875; pdf file)]], [[http://www.germanicmythology.com/FORNALDARSAGAS/SORLATHATTURKERSHAW.html Nora Kershaw (1921)]], and [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20100501004159/http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/Sorli.uk/nom/sagas.htm Peter Tunstall (2005)]].
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Removing speculation. As almost all literary sources on Norse mythology were written by Christians, "Christian influence" is not a sufficient explanation for the way the gods are portrayed here.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts. Christian influence is a plausible explanation for these characterizations. Alternatively, as Greek myths show, the gods don't have to always be LawfulGood like the Christian deity is supposed to be.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts. Christian influence is a plausible explanation for these characterizations. Alternatively, as Greek myths show, the gods don't have to always be LawfulGood like the Christian deity is supposed to be.
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** Probably a case of FantasticRacism: extra marital affairs are okay, but dwarfs are probably beneath the Aesir ...
** ValuesDissonance is also possible as it's almost the exception historically that women having affairs wasn't treated as a much more serious thing than men, even when they weren't wives.
** ValuesDissonance is also possible as it's almost the exception historically that women having affairs wasn't treated as a much more serious thing than men, even when they weren't wives.
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** ValuesDissonance is also possible as it's almost the exception historically that women having affairs wasn't treated as a much more serious thing than men, even when they weren't wives.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts. Christian influence is a plausible explanation for these characterizations.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts. Christian influence is a plausible explanation for these characterizations. Alternatively, as Greek myths show, the gods don't have to always be LawfulGood like the Christian deity is supposed to be.
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** Probably a case of FantasticRacism: extra marital affairs are okay, but dwarfs are probably beneath the Aesir ...
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts.
* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs even besides Freyja.
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* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs even besides Freyja.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts.
conflicts. Christian influence is a plausible explanation for these characterizations.
* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs even besidesFreyja.
Freyja, not to mention the fact that Freyja herself had lovers in older stories, which was presented as completely a-okay.
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* CurseEscapeClause: Odin stipulates that the everlasting battle can be ended if a Christian warrior kills the combatants, as they will not return to life after that.
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* CurseEscapeClause: Odin stipulates that the everlasting battle can be ended if a Christian warrior kills the combatants, as they will not return to life after that.
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"Sorli's Tale, or the Saga of Hedin and Hogni" (''Sörla Þáttur eða Héðins Saga ok Högna'') is an Old {{Norse mytholog|y}}ical tale from the ''Book of Flatey'' (c. 1390 AD).
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"Sorli's Tale, or the Saga of Hedin and Hogni" (''Sörla Þáttur eða Héðins Saga ok Högna'') is an Old {{Norse Myth/{{Norse mytholog|y}}ical tale from the ''Book of Flatey'' (c. 1390 AD).
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* ICannotSelfTerminate: Hedin asks Ivar Gleam to kill him and his warriors, because only when a Christian kills them they will be free from the spell that forces them to fight, die and come to live again every day.
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But Freyja's lover King Odin finds out all about the deal, and forces his henchman Loki to steal the necklace. Freyja asks Odin to give it back, and is called out for her sinful bargain. But Odin is willing to forgive and return the necklace if Freyja promises to fulfill his challenge as a punishment: She must arrange for two glorious mortal kings to meet each other in a battle that lasts forever.
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But Freyja's lover King Odin finds out all about the deal, and forces his henchman Loki to steal the necklace. Freyja asks Odin to give it back, and is called out for her sinful bargain. But Odin is willing to forgive and return the necklace if Freyja promises to fulfill his challenge as a punishment: She must arrange for two glorious mortal kings to meet each other in a battle that lasts will last forever.
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The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace (which only here is linked with the Everlasting Battle) is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace (which only here is linked with the Everlasting Battle) is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although only here it is linked with the Everlasting Battle, and the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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[[caption-width-right:350: [- Panel from an image stone at Stora Hammars, Gotland, possibly depicting the battle of Hedin and Hogni. -] ]]
[[caption-width-right:350: [- Panel from an image stone at Stora Hammars, Gotland, possibly depicting the battle of Hedin and Hogni. -] ]]
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Available in translations by [[http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/hogni_eirikr.pdf Magnússon/Morris (1875; pdf file)]], [[http://www.germanicmythology.com/FORNALDARSAGAS/SORLATHATTURKERSHAW.html Nora Kershaw (1921)]], and [[http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/Sorli.htm Peter Tunstall (2005)]].
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"Sorli's Tale, or the Saga of Hedin and Hogni" (''Sörla Þáttur eða Héðins Saga ok Högna'') is an Old {{Norse mytholog|y}}ical tale from the ''Book of Flatey'' (c. 1390 AD).
As Freyja takes a walk through the streets of Asgard, she sees four dwarfs forging a necklace. Freyja falls in love with the necklace and asks the dwarfs to sell it to her. The dwarfs are ready to do that, but not for money. And four nights later, Freyja walks away with the necklace.
But Freyja's lover King Odin finds out all about the deal, and forces his henchman Loki to steal the necklace. Freyja asks Odin to give it back, and is called out for her sinful bargain. But Odin is willing to forgive and return the necklace if Freyja promises to fulfill his challenge as a punishment: She must arrange for two glorious mortal kings to meet each other in a battle that lasts forever.
"Sorli's Tale" is a major case of a non-indicative title: The episodes that deal with the exploits of the sea-king Sorli and his feud with king Hogni are included mainly to introduce king Hogni. The real focus of the tale is the never-ending battle between kings Hedin and Hogni, a myth also told in "Skaldskaparmal" in ''Literature/ProseEdda'' and book 5 of ''Literature/GestaDanorum''.
The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace (which only here is linked with the Everlasting Battle) is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts.
* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs himself.
* CurseEscapeClause: Odin stipulates that the everlasting battle can be ended if a Christian warrior kills the combatants, as they will not return to life after that.
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As Freyja takes a walk through the streets of Asgard, she sees four dwarfs forging a necklace. Freyja falls in love with the necklace and asks the dwarfs to sell it to her. The dwarfs are ready to do that, but not for money. And four nights later, Freyja walks away with the necklace.
But Freyja's lover King Odin finds out all about the deal, and forces his henchman Loki to steal the necklace. Freyja asks Odin to give it back, and is called out for her sinful bargain. But Odin is willing to forgive and return the necklace if Freyja promises to fulfill his challenge as a punishment: She must arrange for two glorious mortal kings to meet each other in a battle that lasts forever.
"Sorli's Tale" is a major case of a non-indicative title: The episodes that deal with the exploits of the sea-king Sorli and his feud with king Hogni are included mainly to introduce king Hogni. The real focus of the tale is the never-ending battle between kings Hedin and Hogni, a myth also told in "Skaldskaparmal" in ''Literature/ProseEdda'' and book 5 of ''Literature/GestaDanorum''.
The tale takes some liberties with the Literature/{{Edd|a}}ic version of Norse mythology and probably welds myths that were not previously connected to each other. To wit, Loki stealing Freyja's necklace (which only here is linked with the Everlasting Battle) is probably derived from Loki's theft of the Brisingamen mentioned in the ''Prose Edda'', although the necklace in the "Tale of Sorli" is not identified as the Brisingamen.
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* JerkassGods: The Norse gods are portrayed quite unfavorably in this tale, with Freyja as a floozie who sleeps with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace, Odin as her jealous sugardaddy, and Loki as Odin's conniving lackey. Neither of them shows any qualms to destroy mortal lives as part of a sick bargain to sort out their own conflicts.
* SlutShaming: Odin shames Freyja for sleeping with four dwarfs in exchange for a necklace. This is despite Freyja is his concubine, not his wife, and our knowledge of Norse mythology suggests Odin is married to Frigg and had plenty of extramarital affairs himself.
* CurseEscapeClause: Odin stipulates that the everlasting battle can be ended if a Christian warrior kills the combatants, as they will not return to life after that.
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