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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them.
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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children's books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written.

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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children's books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written.
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* MisplacedRetribution: The daughter of the first king bears the brunt of Hans' revenge for her father's not keeping his promise, in which she played no direct role. Hans violently assaults her, accuses her of deceit, and sends her home [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]], but no further punishment befalls her father.



* MisplacedRetribution: The daughter of the first king bears the brunt of Hans' revenge for her father's not keeping his promise, in which she played no direct role. Hans violently assaults her, accuses her of deceit, and sends her home [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]], but no further punishment befalls her father.
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Hans' treatment of the princess is Revenge By Proxy against the king, because the king did not keep the promise he made to Hans. That's what Hans calls "falseness". Hans' punitive acts are not framed as disproportionate.


* DisproportionateRetribution: Then there's Hans himself, who combines this with MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".

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The king's main goal was not to avenge himself on Hans, but to avoid having to actually fulfill his promise to Hans.


* DisproportionateRetribution:
** The first king. A strange man does him a simple favour and demands he let him marry his daughter. The king is understandably upset about this, but did realy need to order his men to kill Hans on sight?
** Then there's Hans himself, who combines this with MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".

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* DisproportionateRetribution:
** The first king. A strange man does him a simple favour and demands he let him marry his daughter. The king is understandably upset about this, but did realy need to order his men to kill Hans on sight?
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DisproportionateRetribution: Then there's Hans himself, who combines this with MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".
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Obviously the father's antipathy against Hans is not a "retribution" of any sorts.


** Hans' dad. His son born different, so he treats him like crap and even wishes him dead.
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** Then there's Hans himself, who combines this MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".

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** Then there's Hans himself, who combines this with MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".

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* AbusiveParents: Hans' father regrets having wished for his half-urchin son to be born and literally wishes him dead. He is all too happy when Hans leaves home on his own initiative, and he does not even care when Hans returns with a big herd of pigs to feed the village with. He only starts caring for him when Hans returns again, now fully human and married to a princess.



* DisproportionateRetribution: Han's dad, the fist king and even Hans himself are all guilty of this.
** Han's dad. His son born different, so he treats him like crap and even wishes him dead.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: Han's dad, the fist king and even Hans himself are all guilty of this.
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** Han's Hans' dad. His son born different, so he treats him like crap and even wishes him dead.



* {{Hammerspace}}: We don't know exactly how big Hans is; while having a human bottom half and being able to play bagpipes brought home from the fair suggests that he is close in size to a person, using a rooster as a mount suggests that he may be closer in size to a normal hedgehog. If the latter is the case, [[spoiler: then his eventually emerging from his hedgehog skin as a fully-formed human is all the more remarkable.]]



* NotDrawnToScale: Hans' size seems to vary depending on the scene: on the one hand, he is able to play average-sized bagpipes created by a human for a human; on the another hand, he rides a rooster.



* TheUnfavorite: Hans the Hedgehog's father regrets having wished for him to be born and literally wishes him dead. He is all too happy when Hans leaves home of his own initiative. He doesn't even care for his son when he returns the first time with a big herd of pigs with which to feed the village. He feels differently when Hans returns for the second time [[spoiler: changed into human form and having married a princess and inherited a kingdom]].
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them. For all we know she might have died by then, but it is likely, given how male-oriented a society the story depicts, that she was still alive and automatically accompanied her husband there, and that the author did not see it worthwhile to mention her coming along.

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* TheUnfavorite: Hans the Hedgehog's father regrets having wished for him to be born and literally wishes him dead. He is all too happy when Hans leaves home of his own initiative. He doesn't even care for his son when he returns the first time with a big herd of pigs with which to feed the village. He feels differently when Hans returns for the second time [[spoiler: changed into human form and having married a princess and inherited a kingdom]].
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them. For all we know she might have died by then, but it is likely, given how male-oriented a society the story depicts, that she was still alive and automatically accompanied her husband there, and that the author did not see it worthwhile to mention her coming along.
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* AlliterativeName: '''H'''ans the '''H'''edgehog.
* AlliterativeTitle: The tale is titled after the alliteratively-named protagonist.



* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: After evading the first king's soldiers while mounted on his rooster, Hans demands that the king give him his daughter, threatening to kill them both if he doesn’t. The king outfits her for marriage and she leaves with Hans. When they have traveled a short distance from the city, however, "…Hans the Hedgehog took her pretty clothes off, and pierced her with his hedgehog's skin until she bled all over." He then tells her: "That is the reward of your falseness, go your way, I will not have you!" He sends her home and she is [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]]. It's impossible not to see this brutal and degrading physical assault as a sexual one as well. Given the circumstances, it is likely that Hans the Hedgehog also penetrated the princess with [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes something other than his quills]].
* DontGoIntoTheWoods: Applies to the two kings, who get lost there on the way home and have to ask for Hans the Hedgehog's help to get out.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: After evading the first king's soldiers while mounted on his rooster, Hans demands that the king give him his daughter, threatening to kill them both if he doesn’t.doesn't. The king outfits her for marriage and she leaves with Hans. When they have traveled a short distance from the city, however, "…Hans the Hedgehog took her pretty clothes off, and pierced her with his hedgehog's skin until she bled all over." He then tells her: "That is the reward of your falseness, go your way, I will not have you!" He sends her home and she is [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]]. It's impossible not to see this brutal and degrading physical assault as a sexual one as well. Given the circumstances, it is likely that Hans the Hedgehog also penetrated the princess with [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes something other than his quills]].
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* DontGoIntoTheWoods: DontGoInTheWoods: Applies to the two kings, who get lost there on the way home and have to ask for Hans the Hedgehog's help to get out.



* SpiritualSuccessor: To the Biblical story of Jephthah, in which a general swore to God that in exchange for defeating the Ammonites, he would sacrifice whatever came out of his house to greet him first when he came back home. The one who happened to be the first to come out and greet him was none other than his daughter, and though he was much grieved, Jephthah upheld his oath after granting his daughter's request to be given two months during which to weep for her virginity.



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them. For all we know she might have died by then, but it is likely, given how male-oriented a society the story depicts, that she was still alive and automatically accompanied her husband there, and that the author did not see it worthwhile to mention her coming along.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them. For all we know she might have died by then, but it is likely, given how male-oriented a society the story depicts, that she was still alive and automatically accompanied her husband there, and that the author did not see it worthwhile to mention her coming along.along.

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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written. The original can be read [[https://web.archive.org/web/20181215172348/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here.]]

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The original can be read [[https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm108.html here]]and [[https://web.archive.org/web/20181215172348/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here.]]]]






* DidNotThinkThisThrough: The first king tricks Hans by giving him a signed promise that Hans should get nothing in return for showing him the way through the woods, whereas Hans had demanded that, in exchange for this service, he sign an affidavit to the effect that the king should give him the first thing that greets him when he comes home. The king assumed that Hans was illiterate, which may not have been the case nor particularly relevant in the end. Neither did he consider the possibility that, if he met an anthropomorphic hedgehog, it might just have special powers of which to beware.

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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: DidntThinkThisThrough: The first king tricks Hans by giving him a signed promise that Hans should get nothing in return for showing him the way through the woods, whereas Hans had demanded that, in exchange for this service, he sign an affidavit to the effect that the king should give him the first thing that greets him when he comes home. The king assumed that Hans was illiterate, which may not have been the case nor particularly relevant in the end. Neither did he consider the possibility that, if he met an anthropomorphic hedgehog, it might just have special powers of which to beware.
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* DisproportionateRetribution: Han's dad, the fist king and even Hans himself are all guilty of this.
** Han's dad. His son born different, so he treats him like crap and even wishes him dead.
** The first king. A strange man does him a simple favour and demands he let him marry his daughter. The king is understandably upset about this, but did realy need to order his men to kill Hans on sight?
** Then there's Hans himself, who combines this MisplacedRetribution. The kings daughter refuses to marry Hans, and her father tells her she doesn't have to. Han's response? Kidnap and assault (and presumable rape) the daughter for her and her fathers "falseness".

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans my Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of his quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm.

A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans my Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of his quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. tree.

Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms.woods. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.
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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].

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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20181215172348/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]]. here.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: After evading the first king's soldiers while mounted on his rooster, Hans demands that the king give him his daughter, threatening to kill them both if he doesn’t. The king outfits her for marriage and she leaves with Hans. When they have traveled a short distance from the city, however, "…Hans the Hedgehog took her pretty clothes off, and pierced her with his hedgehog's skin until she bled all over." He then tells her: "That is the reward of your falseness, go your way, I will not have you!" He sends her home and she is [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]]. It's impossible not to see this brutal and degrading physical assault as a sexual one as well. Given the circumstances, it is likely that Hans the Hedgehog also penetrated the princess with [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes something other than his quills]].

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: After evading the first king's soldiers while mounted on his rooster, Hans demands that the king give him his daughter, threatening to kill them both if he doesn’t. The king outfits her for marriage and she leaves with Hans. When they have traveled a short distance from the city, however, "…Hans the Hedgehog took her pretty clothes off, and pierced her with his hedgehog's skin until she bled all over." He then tells her: "That is the reward of your falseness, go your way, I will not have you!" He sends her home and she is [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]]. It's impossible not to see this brutal and degrading physical assault as a sexual one as well. Given the circumstances, it is likely that Hans the Hedgehog also penetrated the princess with [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes something other than his quills]].
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The father wishes for a son, even a hedgehog. His wife gives birth to a child that is half-hedgehog, half-boy.

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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The father wishes for a son, even child, "even if it be a hedgehog.hedgehog". His wife gives birth to a child that is half-hedgehog, half-boy. Though the couple takes care of the boy, eventually the father secretly wishes that Hans would die.
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* AshFace: When Hans marries the second princess, he [[spoiler: makes himself human by taking off his hedgehog skin and having it burned in a fire.]] Though it is the cast-off skin that is consumed by the fire, Hans is now described as lying in bed "coal-black as if he had been burnt." The king sends for his physician who [[AppliedPhlebotinum washes him with precious salves and anoints him]] and [[SheCleansUpNicely Hans becomes him all white and handsome]].

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* AshFace: When Hans marries the second princess, he [[spoiler: makes himself human by taking off his hedgehog skin and having it burned in a fire.]] Though it is the cast-off skin that is consumed by the fire, Hans is now described as lying in bed "coal-black as if he had been burnt." The king sends for his physician who [[AppliedPhlebotinum washes him with precious salves and anoints him]] and [[SheCleansUpNicely Hans becomes him all white and handsome]].
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* OmniscientHero: Clearly Hans the Hedgehog is one of these, seeing how perfectly his choices and actions work out for him. He must have known in advance that each king's daughter would be the first "thing" to greet the king on coming home home and that once he got married at the latest, [[spoiler: he could shed his hedgehog skin, have it burned, and remain human afterward.]]

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* OmniscientHero: Clearly Hans the Hedgehog is one of these, seeing how perfectly his choices and actions work out for him. He must have known in advance that each king's daughter would be the first "thing" to greet the king on coming home home and that once he got married at the latest, [[spoiler: he could shed his hedgehog skin, have it burned, and remain human afterward.]]
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* OmniscientHero: Clearly Hans the Hedgehog is one of these, seeing how perfectly his choices and actions work out for him. He must have known in advance that each king's daughter would be the first "thing" to greet the king on coming home home and that once he got married at the latest, [[spoiler: he could shed his hedgehog skin, have it burned, and remain human afterward.]]
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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is so crude, violent and sexist that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].

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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence so crude, violent and sexist sexist]] that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].
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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans my Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans my Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its his quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.
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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is so crude, violent and sexist that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations and parodies have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].

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Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is so crude, violent and sexist that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations and parodies have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].



* Animorphism: Inverted. [[spoiler: Immediately after marrying, Hans changes from a hedgehog-human hybrid to a handsome young man.]]

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans My Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans My my Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.


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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The father wishes for a son, even a hedgehog. His wife gives birth to a child that is half-hedgehog, half-boy.

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* EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes: While tending to his herd of pigs and donkeys in the woods, Hans plays beautiful music on his bagpipes, attracting the kings' attention to himself.[[note]]As this is a German folktale, it would be wrong to imagine him with Scottish bagpipes. Rather, he would likely have played an instrument with two parallel drones, or perhaps a Bohemian-type bagpipe with a bellows and a goat's head ornament if he lived in Eastern Germany.[[/note]]



* Hammerspace: We don't know exactly how big Hans is; while having a human bottom half and being able to play bagpipes brought home from the fair suggests that he is close in size to a person, using a rooster as a mount suggests that he may be closer in size to a normal hedgehog. If the latter is the case, [[spoiler: then his eventually emerging from his hedgehog skin as a fully-formed human is all the more remarkable.]]

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* Hammerspace: EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes: While tending to his herd of pigs and donkeys in the woods, Hans plays beautiful music on his bagpipes, attracting the kings' attention to himself.[[note]]As this is a German folktale, it would be wrong to imagine him with Scottish bagpipes. Rather, he would likely have played an instrument with two parallel drones, or perhaps a Bohemian-type bagpipe with a bellows and a goat's head ornament if he lived in Eastern Germany.[[/note]]
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We don't know exactly how big Hans is; while having a human bottom half and being able to play bagpipes brought home from the fair suggests that he is close in size to a person, using a rooster as a mount suggests that he may be closer in size to a normal hedgehog. If the latter is the case, [[spoiler: then his eventually emerging from his hedgehog skin as a fully-formed human is all the more remarkable.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Hans himself. He gets ahead in life by extracting unreasonable promises from two kings in exchange for a relatively simple favor, then overpowers the king who has with good reason defaulted on his promise and violently assaults said king's daughter even after she has accepted to marry him without resistance. Then he [[spoiler: marries the other king's daughter, turns into a handsome young man,]] and thus gives himself, his bride and his father a happy ending, but his actions are largely self-serving.
* DesignatedVillain: The first king. Okay, he never intended to keep his promise to give Hans anything that greeted him in exchange for Hans showing him the way to his kingdom, but did Hans really deserve to be given a big reward for doing a relatively simple favor for the king? And by not intending to keep his promise, he was protecting his daughter, who did not sign up to be carried away by a talking hedgehog.



* HorseOfADifferentColor: Before Hans the Hedgehog sets off into the woods, he has his father get the rooster shod and uses it as a mount throughout the story.[[note]]This suggests that, despite being part human, Hans is of rather small size, which would justify such a mount, though this point is never made clear.[[note/]]

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* HorseOfADifferentColor: Before Hans the Hedgehog sets off into the woods, he has his father get the rooster shod and uses it as a mount throughout the story.[[note]]This suggests that, despite being part human, Hans is of rather small size, which would justify such a mount, though this point is never made clear.[[note/]] [[/note]]
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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans My Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[note/]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.

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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans My Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[note/]] Igel"[[/note]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.



* EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes: While tending to his herd of pigs and donkeys in the woods, Hans plays beautiful music on his bagpipes, attracting the kings' attention to himself.[[note]]As this is a German folktale, it would be wrong to imagine him with Scottish bagpipes. Rather, he would likely have played an instrument with two parallel drones, or perhaps a Bohemian-type bagpipe with a bellows and a goat's head ornament if he lived in Eastern Germany.[[note/]]

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* EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes: While tending to his herd of pigs and donkeys in the woods, Hans plays beautiful music on his bagpipes, attracting the kings' attention to himself.[[note]]As this is a German folktale, it would be wrong to imagine him with Scottish bagpipes. Rather, he would likely have played an instrument with two parallel drones, or perhaps a Bohemian-type bagpipe with a bellows and a goat's head ornament if he lived in Eastern Germany.[[note/]][[/note]]
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One of the lesser-known stories collected by Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. A wealthy peasant has one grief in life: he and his wife have no child. One day, he has enough of being mocked by the other peasants for this, and declares that "I will have a child, even if it be a hedgehog." Sure enough, his wife gives birth to a child whose top half is that of a hedgehog and whose bottom half is that of a boy. The horrified parents are left to deal with the situation. Baptized "Hans the Hedgehog",[[note]] or "Hans My Hedgehog"; in the original German, the title of the story is "Hans mein Igel"[[note/]] the baby cannot be nursed by his mother because of its quills. Given a bed of straw to sleep on behind the stove, Hans pretty much lounges around there for eight years until one day, he asks his father to bring him a set of bagpipes home from the fair. Then Hans tells him to have the rooster shod at the blacksmith's, promising to leave and never come back. His father is only too happy to do so and Hans leaves riding his rooster, taking some pigs and donkeys with him as he leaves. He then spends years in the woods, tending to his growing herd and making beautiful music on his bagpipes while perched on his rooster on the branch of a tree. Time passes and two kings find their way into the woods; both of them notice Hans the Hedgehog and ask him to show them the way out of the woods and to their respective kingdoms. Before doing so, Hans extracts a promise from each of the kings that they will give him the first thing they meet when they come home in exchange. As it happens, each king is greeted by his daughter on returning to the royal palace. The first king tells his daughter about his encounter with Hans but assures her that he does not intend to uphold his empty promise. The princess tells him that this is a good thing, for she would not have gone with Hans anyway. The second king is dismayed, but his daughter tells him that if Hans comes, she will go with him for the love of her old father. In time, Hans the Hedgehog sets off to claim his reward. Some are about to learn that Hans is not one to be crossed.

Although this at times farcical story seems to be trying to teach a moral, its resolution is so crude, violent and sexist that its original plot is essentially unusable for modern children’s books. Nonetheless, some adaptations and parodies have been written. The original can be read [[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/108hanshedgehog.html here]].

!!This work contains examples of the following tropes:

* AnAesop: Be careful what you wish for. And always keep your promises.
* Animorphism: Inverted. [[spoiler: Immediately after marrying, Hans changes from a hedgehog-human hybrid to a handsome young man.]]
* AshFace: When Hans marries the second princess, he [[spoiler: makes himself human by taking off his hedgehog skin and having it burned in a fire.]] Though it is the cast-off skin that is consumed by the fire, Hans is now described as lying in bed "coal-black as if he had been burnt." The king sends for his physician who [[AppliedPhlebotinum washes him with precious salves and anoints him]] and [[SheCleansUpNicely Hans becomes him all white and handsome]].
* EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes: While tending to his herd of pigs and donkeys in the woods, Hans plays beautiful music on his bagpipes, attracting the kings' attention to himself.[[note]]As this is a German folktale, it would be wrong to imagine him with Scottish bagpipes. Rather, he would likely have played an instrument with two parallel drones, or perhaps a Bohemian-type bagpipe with a bellows and a goat's head ornament if he lived in Eastern Germany.[[note/]]
* DesignatedHero: Hans himself. He gets ahead in life by extracting unreasonable promises from two kings in exchange for a relatively simple favor, then overpowers the king who has with good reason defaulted on his promise and violently assaults said king's daughter even after she has accepted to marry him without resistance. Then he [[spoiler: marries the other king's daughter, turns into a handsome young man,]] and thus gives himself, his bride and his father a happy ending, but his actions are largely self-serving.
* DesignatedVillain: The first king. Okay, he never intended to keep his promise to give Hans anything that greeted him in exchange for Hans showing him the way to his kingdom, but did Hans really deserve to be given a big reward for doing a relatively simple favor for the king? And by not intending to keep his promise, he was protecting his daughter, who did not sign up to be carried away by a talking hedgehog.
* DidNotThinkThisThrough: The first king tricks Hans by giving him a signed promise that Hans should get nothing in return for showing him the way through the woods, whereas Hans had demanded that, in exchange for this service, he sign an affidavit to the effect that the king should give him the first thing that greets him when he comes home. The king assumed that Hans was illiterate, which may not have been the case nor particularly relevant in the end. Neither did he consider the possibility that, if he met an anthropomorphic hedgehog, it might just have special powers of which to beware.
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: After evading the first king's soldiers while mounted on his rooster, Hans demands that the king give him his daughter, threatening to kill them both if he doesn’t. The king outfits her for marriage and she leaves with Hans. When they have traveled a short distance from the city, however, "…Hans the Hedgehog took her pretty clothes off, and pierced her with his hedgehog's skin until she bled all over." He then tells her: "That is the reward of your falseness, go your way, I will not have you!" He sends her home and she is [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]]. It's impossible not to see this brutal and degrading physical assault as a sexual one as well. Given the circumstances, it is likely that Hans the Hedgehog also penetrated the princess with [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes something other than his quills]].
* DontGoIntoTheWoods: Applies to the two kings, who get lost there on the way home and have to ask for Hans the Hedgehog's help to get out.
* Hammerspace: We don't know exactly how big Hans is; while having a human bottom half and being able to play bagpipes brought home from the fair suggests that he is close in size to a person, using a rooster as a mount suggests that he may be closer in size to a normal hedgehog. If the latter is the case, [[spoiler: then his eventually emerging from his hedgehog skin as a fully-formed human is all the more remarkable.]]
* HorseOfADifferentColor: Before Hans the Hedgehog sets off into the woods, he has his father get the rooster shod and uses it as a mount throughout the story.[[note]]This suggests that, despite being part human, Hans is of rather small size, which would justify such a mount, though this point is never made clear.[[note/]]
* ThePromise: The plot hinges on Hans the Hedgehog making two kings promise to give him whatever comes out to greet them when they return home in exchange for showing them the way to their respective kingdoms.
* MisplacedRetribution: The daughter of the first king bears the brunt of Hans' revenge for her father's not keeping his promise, in which she played no direct role. Hans violently assaults her, accuses her of deceit, and sends her home [[DefiledForever disgraced for the rest of her life]], but no further punishment befalls her father.
* SpiritualSuccessor: To the Biblical story of Jephthah, in which a general swore to God that in exchange for defeating the Ammonites, he would sacrifice whatever came out of his house to greet him first when he came back home. The one who happened to be the first to come out and greet him was none other than his daughter, and though he was much grieved, Jephthah upheld his oath after granting his daughter's request to be given two months during which to weep for her virginity.
* TheUnfavorite: Hans the Hedgehog's father regrets having wished for him to be born and literally wishes him dead. He is all too happy when Hans leaves home of his own initiative. He doesn't even care for his son when he returns the first time with a big herd of pigs with which to feed the village. He feels differently when Hans returns for the second time [[spoiler: changed into human form and having married a princess and inherited a kingdom]].
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Hans the Hedgehog's mother is quite visible at the beginning of the story but is not mentioned at all after his first departure from the village. At the end, [[spoiler: when Hans returns transformed from a half-hedgehog into a handsome and socially ascended young man to take his father to live with him in the kingdom which he has inherited]], there is no mention of his mother coming with them. For all we know she might have died by then, but it is likely, given how male-oriented a society the story depicts, that she was still alive and automatically accompanied her husband there, and that the author did not see it worthwhile to mention her coming along.

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