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-->-- '''J. Robert Oppenheimer''', '''UsefulNotes/RobertOppenheimer''', translating Krishna's famous line[[note]]A rather liberal interpretation, nevertheless the most well-known one. See below for a different translation.[[/note]]
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* YouCantFightFate / WeAllDieSomeday: Why Krishna enjoins joins Arjuna to fight and slay his enemies. The term for "death" in the famous quote above is more commonly (and more accurately) translated as "time".
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement.
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason [[HonorBeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement.
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* PhysicalGodPhysicalGod: What Krishna ultimately is. UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi's commentary famously asserted that this was not literally the case; Krishna was simply a very exceptional human being who obtained the title "Incarnation of God" by virtue of simply being that awesome.
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement.
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' ''Literature/{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement.
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* {{Badass}}: If the description of God in the book is to be believed.
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Like the ''Mahabharata'', it is a narrative poem written in Sanskrit and is one of the major books in {{Hindu Mythology}}. Because of its complex subject matter, it is subject to countless [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]].
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Like the ''Mahabharata'', it is a narrative poem written in Sanskrit and is one of the major books in {{Hindu Mythology}}.Myth/HinduMythology. Because of its complex subject matter, it is subject to countless [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]].
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* ShrugOfGod: Was it always part of the Mahabharata, or was it written later and then inserted like a philosophical sandwich? The jury is out on this.
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* AGodAmI: Krishna reveals to Arjuna that he is an avatar, and shows him the true form of God, which scares Arjuna shitless.
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement. Like the {{Mahabharata}}, it is a narrative poem written in Sanskrit and is one of the major books in {{Hindu Mythology}}. Because of its complex subject matter, it is subject to countless [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]].
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The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement.
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->''I have become Death, [[AtomicHate the destroyer of Worlds]]''
-->-- Oppenheimer, [[BeamMeUpScotty (mis)quoting the Gita.]]
The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement. Like the {{Mahabharata}}, it is a narrative poem written in Sanskrit and is one of the major books in {{Hindu Mythology}}. Because of its complex subject matter, it is subject to countless [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]].
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!! Tropes in ''Bhagavad Gita'':
* AGodAmI: Krishna reveals to Arjuna that he is an avatar, and shows him the true form of God, which scares Arjuna shitless.
* AdaptationDistillation: A lot of people are more influenced by the Bhagavatam's take on the Gita than the Gita.
* TheArcher: Arjuna though this occurs more in the Mahabharata.
* {{Badass}}: If the description of God in the book is to be believed.
* GodWasMyCopilot: Krishna was my chariot driver.
* GodInHumanForm: Though God can reincarnate in nonhumanform as well, according to the Gita.
* MessianicArchetype: The most famous verse of the Gita states that God reincarnates on earth to preserve dharma or righteousness.
* {{Avatar}} (TropeMaker and TropeNamer) and *PhysicalGod
* {{Reincarnation}}: See Messanic Archetype.
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-->-- Oppenheimer, [[BeamMeUpScotty (mis)quoting the Gita.]]
The ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita Bhagavad Gita]]'' (''The Song of God'') is a book within a larger epic based on the conversation in the Hindu Epic ''{{Mahabharata}}'' between {{Warrior Prince}} Arjuna and his charioteer [[GodInHumanForm Krishna]] during the [[CivilWar Kurushetra War]]. Arjuna had to fight his cousin EvilPrince BigBad Duryodhana, his [[TheDragon archnemesis]] [[CainandAbel Karna]], his teacher and mentor [[RageAgainstTheMentor Drona]] and Kuru Patriach and beloved grandfather Bhishma after exhausting all other legal means in order to get back his Kingdom. Arjuna gets a [[HeroicBSOD Hamlet moment]] and is unresolved on whether to take part in the battle and in consequence, kill his kinsmen and teachers on the other side of the war. [[GodWasMyCopilot Krishna]] talks him into [[HonorbeforeReason fighting in the war]] and along the way, talks about subtle philosophy regarding the nature of the soul, the doctrines of yoga, the nature of man and the way to love God. The conversation ends as he shows his real form as God to Arjuna and convinces Arjuna to trust his judgement. Like the {{Mahabharata}}, it is a narrative poem written in Sanskrit and is one of the major books in {{Hindu Mythology}}. Because of its complex subject matter, it is subject to countless [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]].
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!! Tropes in ''Bhagavad Gita'':
* AGodAmI: Krishna reveals to Arjuna that he is an avatar, and shows him the true form of God, which scares Arjuna shitless.
* AdaptationDistillation: A lot of people are more influenced by the Bhagavatam's take on the Gita than the Gita.
* TheArcher: Arjuna though this occurs more in the Mahabharata.
* {{Badass}}: If the description of God in the book is to be believed.
* GodWasMyCopilot: Krishna was my chariot driver.
* GodInHumanForm: Though God can reincarnate in nonhumanform as well, according to the Gita.
* MessianicArchetype: The most famous verse of the Gita states that God reincarnates on earth to preserve dharma or righteousness.
* {{Avatar}} (TropeMaker and TropeNamer) and *PhysicalGod
* {{Reincarnation}}: See Messanic Archetype.
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