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* Brent Weeks' ''Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy'' is full of these, usually from Logan. When [[spoiler: newly made King]] Logan flips a table, breaks a leg off and brutally smashes in the arms and legs of [[spoiler: his best friend Kylar]], who is slowly dying a torturous death on 'the wheel'. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome He then gives an ultimatum]] to the Laeknaught,[[IncrediblyLamePun shattering]] his "good boy" image. He also says this verbatim to [[TheAtoner Count Drake]] after he [[spoiler: bends knee in allegiance]] to [[SmugSnake Terah Graesin]].

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* Brent Weeks' ''Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy'' is full of these, usually from Logan. When [[spoiler: newly made King]] Logan flips a table, breaks a leg off and brutally smashes in the arms and legs of [[spoiler: his best friend Kylar]], who is slowly dying a torturous death on 'the wheel'. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome He then gives an ultimatum]] to the Laeknaught,[[IncrediblyLamePun Laeknaught,[[{{Pun}} shattering]] his "good boy" image. He also says this verbatim to [[TheAtoner Count Drake]] after he [[spoiler: bends knee in allegiance]] to [[SmugSnake Terah Graesin]].
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* ''Literature/TheGraceOfKings'': Kuni Garu genuinely feels terrible about attacking the rival king Mata Zyndu [[TruceTrickery right after declaring peace]], but believes that Zyndu's BloodKnight nature makes another war inevitable, so he owes it to his people to end Zyndu's reign as efficiently as possible, personal honour be damned.

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* A common theme in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. The main characters (who are only 13-16, mind you) are forced to do some terrible things to prevent both humans and countless other alien species being enslaved by a PuppeteerParasite species. This includes trapping another kid in a rat's body because he turned traitor, killing sentient beings so their bodies can't be used as hosts, manipulating an ActualPacifist to go against their nature to kill...in the very last book they [[spoiler: kill tens of thousands of unprotected Yeerks]]. When they're accused of war crimes, this is their justification.

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common theme in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. The main characters (who are only 13-16, mind you) are forced to do some terrible things to prevent both humans and countless other alien species being enslaved by a PuppeteerParasite species. This includes trapping another kid in a rat's body because he turned traitor, killing sentient beings so their bodies can't be used as hosts, manipulating an ActualPacifist to go against their nature to kill...in the very last book they [[spoiler: kill tens of thousands of unprotected Yeerks]]. When they're accused of war crimes, this is their justification.



* Inverted in Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'': newly-made Regent Aral Vorkosigan is faced with either upholding the rule of law, or sparing the life of a boy who accidentally killed someone in a duel--a crime punishable by death. He eventually chooses the law, but [[DirtyBusiness feels miserable about it]]. Even knowing that he Did What He...you get the idea...doesn't comfort him much.



* In the fourth ''Literature/CodexAlera'' book ''Captain's Fury'', the First Lord Gaius Sextus has one of these moments when [[spoiler: he deliberately triggers a volcano over the city of Kalare, wiping out everyone in the city: rebels, civilians, and slaves all alike.]] He's forced to do this because [[spoiler: High Lord Kalarus was planning to wait until hundreds of thousands of people, refugees and Legion troops from both his army and the loyalist Alerans had entered the city before triggering the volcano to kill ''everyone''. Thanks to Gaius, only the city was wiped out, instead of the region. It did destroy all of the smaller towns and steadholts in within the ring of mountains surrounding Kalus, but it was still far less than would have happened if Kalarus had had his way.]] The two Cursors who guided him there, who had no idea Gaius was planning this, refuse to accept his justifications and resign on the spot.

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* In the fourth ''Literature/CodexAlera'' book book, ''Captain's Fury'', the First Lord Gaius Sextus has one of these moments when [[spoiler: he deliberately triggers a volcano over the city of Kalare, wiping out everyone in the city: rebels, civilians, and slaves all alike.]] He's forced to do this because [[spoiler: High Lord Kalarus was planning to wait until hundreds of thousands of people, refugees and Legion troops from both his army and the loyalist Alerans had entered the city before triggering the volcano to kill ''everyone''. Thanks to Gaius, only the city was wiped out, instead of the region. It did destroy all of the smaller towns and steadholts in within the ring of mountains surrounding Kalus, but it was still far less than would have happened if Kalarus had had his way.]] The two Cursors who guided him there, who had no idea Gaius was planning this, refuse to accept his justifications and resign on the spot.



** Subverted in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/NightWatchDiscworld'', where Vetinari suggests that a monument be erected to the watchmen who died in the Glorious Revolution of May 25th, engraved with the phrase "They Did the Job They Had to Do." Vimes angrily replies, "No! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything."

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** Subverted in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/NightWatchDiscworld'', where ''Literature/NightwatchDiscworld'' when Vetinari suggests that a monument be erected to the watchmen who died in the Glorious Revolution of May 25th, engraved with the phrase "They Did the Job They Had to Do." Vimes angrily replies, "No! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything."



* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', this is the justification Ward gives for working together with the villain, which includes giving the villain the eponymous dragon bones. Oreg doesn't buy it. [[spoiler: They take a third option in the end.]]
* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':

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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', this is the justification Ward gives for working together with the villain, which includes giving the villain the eponymous dragon bones. Oreg doesn't buy it. [[spoiler: They take a third option in the end.]]
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-->'''Harry:''' [[spoiler:I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me.]]

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* This is a running theme in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' stories: in war, you can't keep your hands clean unless you want to lose. The Slammers are well aware of this. Some of the groups that hire them are shocked to find it out -- the hard way.

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* This is a running theme in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' stories: ''Literature/HammersSlammers'': in war, you can't keep your hands clean unless you want to lose. The Slammers are well aware of this. Some of the groups that hire them are shocked to find it out -- the hard way.



* In ''Literature/{{Hero}}'' by Perry Moore, Goran uses this exact phrase when Thom asks him how he got himself and his little brother out of their war-torn homeland. What makes it chilling is that that's all he says; we never find out what he actually did.

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* In ''Literature/{{Hero}}'' by Perry Moore, ''Literature/{{Hero}}'', Goran uses this exact phrase when Thom asks him how he got himself and his little brother out of their war-torn homeland. What makes it chilling is that that's all he says; we never find out what he actually did.did.
* ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'': In ''Dragon Bones'', this is the justification Ward gives for working together with the villain, which includes giving the villain the eponymous dragon bones. Oreg doesn't buy it. [[spoiler:They TakeAThirdOption in the end.]]



* The ''Literature/{{Lensmen}}'' universe generally leaves this as an unspoken trope for the good guys, but it's out there in black and white at the end of ''Triplanetary''. The sum total of the mayhem each side has wreaked on the other is tallied up once hostilities have ceased, with those responsible on ''both'' sides declaring the trope and openly admitting they wish they could take it back.

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* The ''Literature/{{Lensmen}}'' ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' universe generally leaves this as an unspoken trope for the good guys, but it's out there in black and white at the end of ''Triplanetary''. The sum total of the mayhem each side has wreaked on the other is tallied up once hostilities have ceased, with those responsible on ''both'' sides declaring the trope and openly admitting they wish they could take it back.



* In ''Literature/RedHarvest'' by Creator/DashiellHammett, "a man's got to do what a man's got to do" is favorite phrase of Noonan the chief of police. Ironically he uses it any time he does something that would benefit him -- such as manipulating a witness to convince her that her husband's killer was the man he had a grudge against. Literature/TheContinentalOp repeats the phrase before searching a dead lawyer's pockets for potential blackmail materials.

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* In ''Literature/RedHarvest'' by Creator/DashiellHammett, ''Literature/RedHarvest'', "a man's got to do what a man's got to do" is favorite phrase of Noonan the chief of police. Ironically Ironically, he uses it any time he does something that would benefit him -- such as manipulating a witness to convince her that her husband's killer was the man he had a grudge against. Literature/TheContinentalOp repeats the phrase before searching a dead lawyer's pockets for potential blackmail materials.



** The rulers of Kegan in a book of ''Literature/JediApprentice'' made their planet into a [[StepfordSmiler Stepford-Smiling]] mess, but feel justified in not just doing it, but preserving the status quo.
--> "Everything we have done [[WellIntentionedExtremist is to protect our citizens from a fate they cannot imagine]]. Perhaps some of our measures seem harsh, but they are only for the General Good."
*** Oddly they do seem to have actually made correct predictions about the rise of TheEmpire. However even though they were correct, it wouldn't have done them any good as even isolated there was nothing to stop the Empire from coming after them.

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** The rulers of Kegan in a book of ''Literature/JediApprentice'' made their planet into a [[StepfordSmiler Stepford-Smiling]] mess, but feel justified in not just doing it, but preserving the status quo.
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quo. Oddly, they do seem to have actually made correct predictions about the rise of TheEmpire. However, even though they were correct, it wouldn't have done them any good; even isolated, there was nothing to stop the Empire from coming after them.
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we have done [[WellIntentionedExtremist is to protect our citizens from a fate they cannot imagine]]. Perhaps some of our measures seem harsh, but they are only for the General Good."
*** Oddly they do seem to have actually made correct predictions about the rise of TheEmpire. However even though they were correct, it wouldn't have done them any good as even isolated there was nothing to stop the Empire from coming after them.
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* Inverted in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' novel ''Barrayar'': newly-made Regent Aral Vorkosigan is faced with either upholding the rule of law or sparing the life of a boy who accidentally killed someone in a duel--a crime punishable by death. He eventually chooses the law, but [[DirtyBusiness feels miserable about it]]. Even knowing that he Did What He... you get the idea... doesn't comfort him much.



* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had the ''Redeker Plan''. Which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).

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* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had has the ''Redeker Plan''. Which Plan'', which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).



** This is Cauldron's go-to justification for all the horrific things they've done over the years: by way of OmniscientMoralityLicense, they claim that doing anything ''else'' would have lead to the extinction of humanity.

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** In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Haverson shoots a perfectly nice Engineer who had just voluntarily fixed the Chief's armor. When questioned on it, he states that he'd have rather not done it, but he couldn't risk the Engineer being captured by the Covenant and providing it with information on said armor. Later, when the ''Gettysburg-Ascendant Justice'' is forced to abandon the Eridanus Secundus rebels to the mercies of the Covenant, Chief asks Whitcomb if they did the right thing; Whitcomb replies that it probably isn't, but that they have a duty to the people of Earth, not "a pack of privateers and outlaws". That said, he still clearly regrets it and mentions that [[ImGoingToHellForThis there'll be a place in Hell for him for this]].

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** In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', intel agent Haverson shoots a perfectly nice Engineer who had just voluntarily fixed the Chief's armor. When questioned on it, he states that he'd have rather not done it, but he couldn't risk the Engineer being captured by the Covenant and providing it them with information on said the armor. [[note]]In the same book, Cortana realizes Covenant slipspace drives and practices are deliberately limited, and circumvents those limits [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique to jump inside atmosphere]]. A Covvie AI leaks this info to its masters before Cortana can stop it. In Halo 2 and ODST, Regret's devastating slipspace jump over New Mombasa was [[NiceJobBreakingItHero only possible because of Cortana]].[[/note]] Later, when the ''Gettysburg-Ascendant Justice'' is forced to abandon the Eridanus Secundus rebels to the mercies of the Covenant, Chief asks Whitcomb if they did the right thing; Whitcomb replies that it probably isn't, but that they have a duty to the people of Earth, not "a pack of privateers and outlaws". That said, he still clearly regrets it and mentions that [[ImGoingToHellForThis there'll be a place in Hell for him for this]].
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* The ''Literature/{{Lensmen}}'' universe generally leaves this as an unspoken trope for the good guys, but it's out there in black and white at the end of ''Triplanetary''. The sum total of the mayhem each side has wreaked on the other is tallied up once hostilities have ceased, with those responsible on ''both'' sides declaring the trope and openly admitting they wish they could take it back.
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* In the first book of ''Literature/TheQueensThief'', the Queen of Attolia is presented as a vicious tyrant who hangs disloyal barons from the walls of her palace, tortures anyone disloyal, and ruthlessly destroys her foes. The second book shows TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, revealing that she is so ruthless because anything less would lead to either a forced marriage or a civil war, in which her country would surely come under the heel of a greedy baron that would carelessly bleed it dry. By making herself untouchable and terrifying, and giving no quarter to any disloyalty, Attolia ensures that her people have a ruler who actually cares about the well-being of all their citizens, not just the rich and powerful ones.

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* ''Literature/AdventureHunters'': Both Ryvas and Marcus are fully aware of the vileness of their actions but believe them to be necessary to save the kingdom.
* A common theme in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. The main characters (who are only 13-16, mind you) are forced to do some terrible things to prevent both humans and countless other alien species being enslaved by a PuppeteerParasite species. This includes trapping another kid in a rat's body because he turned traitor, killing sentient beings so their bodies can't be used as hosts, manipulating an ActualPacifist to go against their nature to kill...in the very last book they [[spoiler: kill tens of thousands of unprotected Yeerks]]. When they're accused of war crimes, this is their justification.
** In the prequel ''[[Recap/AnimorphsTheHorkBajirChronicles The Hork-Bajir Chronicles]]'', [[GeneralRipper Alloran]] gives the order to create a [[SyntheticPlague Quantum Virus]] to wipe out the Hork-Bajir, rather than let the Yeerks use their bodies. [[AllForNothing And then the Yeerks take over the planet anyway]]. It's debatable whether he ever truly shows remorse for his actions.
* Inverted in Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'': newly-made Regent Aral Vorkosigan is faced with either upholding the rule of law, or sparing the life of a boy who accidentally killed someone in a duel--a crime punishable by death. He eventually chooses the law, but [[DirtyBusiness feels miserable about it]]. Even knowing that he Did What He...you get the idea...doesn't comfort him much.



* In Creator/PoulAnderson's "The Burning Bridge", when a message from Earth is causing people to want to turn back, TheCaptain fakes a more imperious message to inspire them to go on -- and when he's caught, makes it appear that the crewmember had gone crazy and has them put him into deep sleep.



* Inverted in Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'': newly-made Regent Aral Vorkosigan is faced with either upholding the rule of law, or sparing the life of a boy who accidentally killed someone in a duel--a crime punishable by death. He eventually chooses the law, but [[DirtyBusiness feels miserable about it]]. Even knowing that he Did What He...you get the idea...doesn't comfort him much.

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* Inverted %%* The [[http://www.sylviaengdahl.com/trilogy.htm Children Of The Star]] trilogy by Sylvia Engdahl meditates on this concept in Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'': newly-made Regent Aral Vorkosigan is faced with either upholding the rule of law, or sparing the life of a boy who accidentally killed someone in a duel--a crime punishable by death. He eventually chooses the law, but [[DirtyBusiness feels miserable about it]]. Even knowing that he Did What He...you get the idea...doesn't comfort him much.detail.



* ''Literature/DaystarAndShadow'': When Robin feels guilty for interrogating some priests, then killing them for knowing too much and [[FieryCoverup burning the church down]], Shadow reminds him that it was necessary.
* ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' talks about how necessity must sometimes trump what is good for the sake of preserving liberty.



* In ''Literature/TheFoundationTrilogy'', one of Salvor Hardin's mottoes is "Never let your morals prevent you from acting correctly".



* In ''Literature/RedHarvest'' by Creator/DashiellHammett, "a man's got to do what a man's got to do" is favorite phrase of Noonan the chief of police. Ironically he uses it any time he does something that would benefit him -- such as manipulating a witness to convince her that her husband's killer was the man he had a grudge against. Literature/TheContinentalOp repeats the phrase before searching a dead lawyer's pockets for potential blackmail materials.

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* In ''Literature/RedHarvest'' by Creator/DashiellHammett, "a man's got One of the main themes of ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune''. Leto II has the ability to do see the future to a (not entirely) unprecedented extent, and has seen that humanity, as a species, will die somewhere down the line if civilization is not altered from its present course. This leads him to turn himself into a tyrannical GodEmperor who ruthlessly and callously manipulates and uses everyone around him, and also includes limiting technology and a eugenics program. This state of affairs lasts over 3,000 years, and throughout it all Leto II is shown to hate what a man's got to do" is favorite phrase of Noonan the chief of police. Ironically he uses it any time he does something he's doing, wishing that would benefit him -- such as manipulating a witness to convince her things could have gone another way... but his future sight has determined that her husband's killer was only through this despotism can he prevent the man he death of humanity. Eventually, his plan reaches its [[ByronicHero Byronic conclusion]]. [[spoiler:The chaotic fallout from Leto II's assassination and the end of his oppression eventually triggers the Scattering: a galaxy-scale diaspora that eventually causes the human race to diversify, which is what Leto's visions had a grudge against. Literature/TheContinentalOp repeats shown to be the phrase before searching a dead lawyer's pockets for potential blackmail materials.way to save humanity.]]



* This is a running theme in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' stories: in war, you can't keep your hands clean unless you want to lose. The Slammers are well aware of this. Some of the groups that hire them are shocked to find it out -- the hard way.
* Both Dumbledore and Snape from ''Literature/HarryPotter''. Also implied when describing [[KnightTemplar Crouch's]] decision to allow aurors to use the Unforgivable Curses during the first war with You-Know-Who. And Harry himself doesn't come away all squeaky clean in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'' either, throwing around [[MindControl Imperius-curses]] left and right, not to mention when he uses the [[AgonyBeam Cruciatus Curse]] against the death eater Amycus Carrow.
* In ''Literature/{{Hero}}'' by Perry Moore, Goran uses this exact phrase when Thom asks him how he got himself and his little brother out of their war-torn homeland. What makes it chilling is that that's all he says; we never find out what he actually did.
* Livia in ''Series/IClaudius'' ruthlessly manipulates and kills family members and anyone else close to them to ensure her son becomes emperor and Rome does not return to being a Republic, convinced this is the only way for the city to remain great.



* In the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' series, the empire of the Radch fervently believes in the interdependent values of "Justice, Propriety, and Benefit", and Lord Anaander Mianaai claims that all of her actions, however heinous, are intended to benefit the Radch. Breq counters that when every individual Radchaai citizen knows that they could be killed on her whim, Mianaai's not doing a very good job of being Just or Proper and has a [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans pretty self-serving]] notion of Benefit.
* ''Literature/InDeath'': Eve and Roarke have had to defend their actions more than once and they have even said this trope practically word for word to each other.



* Zack invokes this trope quite a lot in ''Literature/TheMentalState'' in order to justify the extreme methods he uses to survive in prison and improve the quality of the prisoners' living conditions.



* In ''Literature/{{Hero}}'' by Perry Moore, Goran uses this exact phrase when Thom asks him how he got himself and his little brother out of their war-torn homeland. What makes it chilling is that that's all he says; we never find out what he actually did.
* This is a running theme in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' stories: in war, you can't keep your hands clean unless you want to lose. The Slammers are well aware of this. Some of the groups that hire them are shocked to find it out -- the hard way.

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* In ''Literature/{{Hero}}'' by Perry Moore, Goran uses this exact phrase when Thom asks When George shoots [[spoiler:Lennie]] in ''Literature/OfMiceAndMen''. After [[spoiler:Lennie kills Curley's wife]], George is forced to shoot him how he got himself and his little brother out of their war-torn homeland. What makes it chilling is that that's all he says; we never find out what he actually did.
* This is a running theme in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' stories: in war, you can't keep your hands clean unless you want to lose. The Slammers are well aware of this. Some of
so the groups that hire them are shocked to find other men don't. He does it out -- in a way so [[spoiler:Lennie]] doesn't realise, which the hard way.other men would not have given the courtesy of doing.



* Livia in ''Series/IClaudius'' ruthlessly manipulates and kills family members and anyone else close to them to ensure her son becomes emperor and Rome does not return to being a Republic, convinced this is the only way for the city to remain great.
* The [[http://www.sylviaengdahl.com/trilogy.htm Children Of The Star]] trilogy by SylviaEngdahl meditates on this concept in detail.
* Both Dumbledore and Snape from ''Literature/HarryPotter''. Also implied when describing [[KnightTemplar Crouch's]] decision to allow aurors to use the Unforgivable Curses during the first war with You-Know-Who. And Harry himself doesn't come away all squeaky clean in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'' either, throwing around [[MindControl Imperius-curses]] left and right, not to mention when he uses the [[AgonyBeam Cruciatus Curse]] against the death eater Amycus Carrow.
* When George shoots [[spoiler:Lennie]] in ''Literature/OfMiceAndMen''. After [[spoiler:Lennie kills Curley's wife]], George is forced to shoot him so the other men don't. He does it in a way so [[spoiler:Lennie]] doesn't realise, which the other men would not have given the courtesy of doing.
* ''Literature/InDeath'': Eve and Roarke have had to defend their actions more than once and they have even said this trope practically word for word to each other.
* ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' talks about how necessity must sometimes trump what is good for the sake of preserving liberty.
* In Creator/PoulAnderson's "The Burning Bridge", when a message from Earth is causing people to want to turn back, TheCaptain fakes a more imperious message to inspire them to go on -- and when he's caught, makes it appear that the crewmember had gone crazy and has them put him into deep sleep.
* In the Indian novel ''Literature/TheWhiteTiger'', [[spoiler:Balram believed that the only way he could become an entrepreneur and break out of the coop was to kill Ashok. Hell, when you look at how things work, he was probably right.]].
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* Livia in ''Series/IClaudius'' In the first book of ''Literature/TheQueensThief'', the Queen of Attolia is presented as a vicious tyrant who hangs disloyal barons from the walls of her palace, tortures anyone disloyal, and ruthlessly manipulates and kills family members and anyone else close to them to ensure destroys her son becomes emperor and Rome does not return to being a Republic, convinced this is the only way for the city to remain great.
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foes. The [[http://www.sylviaengdahl.com/trilogy.htm Children Of The Star]] trilogy by SylviaEngdahl meditates on this concept second book shows TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, revealing that she is so ruthless because anything less would lead to either a forced marriage or a civil war, in detail.
* Both Dumbledore and Snape from ''Literature/HarryPotter''. Also implied when describing [[KnightTemplar Crouch's]] decision to allow aurors to use the Unforgivable Curses during the first war with You-Know-Who. And Harry himself doesn't
which her country would surely come away under the heel of a greedy baron that would carelessly bleed it dry. By making herself untouchable and terrifying, and giving no quarter to any disloyalty, Attolia ensures that her people have a ruler who actually cares about the well-being of all squeaky clean in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'' either, throwing around [[MindControl Imperius-curses]] left their citizens, not just the rich and right, not powerful ones.
* In ''Literature/RedHarvest'' by Creator/DashiellHammett, "a man's got
to mention when do what a man's got to do" is favorite phrase of Noonan the chief of police. Ironically he uses the [[AgonyBeam Cruciatus Curse]] against the death eater Amycus Carrow.
* When George shoots [[spoiler:Lennie]] in ''Literature/OfMiceAndMen''. After [[spoiler:Lennie kills Curley's wife]], George is forced to shoot him so the other men don't. He
it any time he does it in a way so [[spoiler:Lennie]] doesn't realise, which the other men something that would not have given benefit him -- such as manipulating a witness to convince her that her husband's killer was the courtesy of doing.
* ''Literature/InDeath'': Eve and Roarke have
man he had to defend a grudge against. Literature/TheContinentalOp repeats the phrase before searching a dead lawyer's pockets for potential blackmail materials.
* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has several characters who will give this reason for
their actions more than once actions, but none can compare to the sheer lengths that Bloodraven went to to exterminate House Blackfyre and they have even said their claim to the Targaryen throne. He broke every taboo in Westerosi society, up to and including murdering Aenys Blackfyre under a flag of truce and diplomacy, in the pursuit of his goals. The murder of Aenys was considered heinous enough that his favorite grand-nephew, King Aegon the Unlikely, the direct beneficiary of that action, exiled him to the Wall for it. But this trope practically word for word to each other.
* ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' talks about how necessity must sometimes trump what
may well be a case of Main/TheExtremistWasRight, because Aegon's reign is good for largely untroubled by the sake threat of preserving liberty.
* In Creator/PoulAnderson's "The Burning Bridge", when a message from Earth is causing people to want to turn back, TheCaptain fakes a more imperious message to inspire them to go on -- and when he's caught, makes it appear that
another major uprising by the crewmember had gone crazy and has them put him into deep sleep.
Blackfyres.
* In the Indian novel ''Literature/TheWhiteTiger'', [[spoiler:Balram believed that the only way he could become an entrepreneur and break out of the coop was to kill Ashok. Hell, when you look at how things work, he was probably right.]].
* ''Franchise/{{Star Wars}}'':
''Franchise/StarWars'':



* In ''Literature/ThisImmortal'', this is what Conrad's excuse for having founded [[LaResistance Radpol]] as Konstantin Karaghiosis and engaged in prolonged guerrilla warfare, reducing the number of uncontaminated areas on Earth even further, boils down to. When Hasan points out that none of what they did changed anything in the long run, Conrad counters that at least their actions prevented the situation from getting worse.



* In ''Literature/TheFoundation'', one of Salvor Hardin's mottoes is "Never let your morals prevent you from acting correctly".
* ''Literature/AdventureHunters'': Both Ryvas and Marcus are fully aware of the vileness of their actions but believe them to be necessary to save the kingdom.
* A common trope invoked in so-called "men's adventure" literature of the early 1970s that featured heroes (usually spies, or soldiers) committing de facto murder in order to finish their missions, such as Mack Bolan (aka Literature/TheExecutioner), Death Merchant, and COBRA. In at least two COBRA novels, the "hero" (Jon Skul) kills police officers and innocent bystanders in order to complete his missions. When called to task for the former, he more or less invokes the trope while actually criticizing the person for being upset about ''cops being murdered''.
* A common theme in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. The main characters (who are only 13-16, mind you) are forced to do some terrible things to prevent both humans and countless other alien species being enslaved by a PuppeteerParasite species. This includes trapping another kid in a rat's body because he turned traitor, killing sentient beings so their bodies can't be used as hosts, manipulating an ActualPacifist to go against their nature to kill...in the very last book they [[spoiler: kill tens of thousands of unprotected Yeerks]]. When they're accused of war crimes, this is their justification.
** In the prequel ''The Hork-Bajir Chronicles'', [[GeneralRipper Alloran]] gives the order to create a [[SyntheticPlague Quantum Virus]] to wipe out the Hork-Bajir, rather than let the Yeerks use their bodies. [[AllForNothing And then the Yeerks take over the planet anyway]]. It's debatable whether he ever truly shows remorse for his actions.
* One of the main themes of ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune''. Leto II has the ability to see the future to a (not entirely) unprecedented extent, and has seen that humanity, as a species, will die somewhere down the line if civilization is not altered from its present course. This leads him to turn himself into a tyrannical GodEmperor who ruthlessly and callously manipulates and uses everyone around him, and also includes limiting technology and a eugenics program. This state of affairs lasts over 3,000 years, and throughout it all Leto II is shown to hate what he's doing, wishing that things could have gone another way... but his future sight has determined that only through this despotism can he prevent the death of humanity. Eventually, his plan reaches its [[ByronicHero Byronic conclusion]]. [[spoiler:The chaotic fallout from Leto II's assassination and the end of his oppression eventually triggers the Scattering: a galaxy-scale diaspora that eventually causes the human race to diversify, which is what Leto's visions had shown to be the way to save humanity.]]
* In ''Literature/ThisImmortal'', this is what Conrad's excuse for having founded [[LaResistance Radpol]] as Konstantin Karaghiosis and engaged in prolonged guerrilla warfare, reducing the number of uncontaminated areas on Earth even further, boils down to. When Hasan points out that none of what they did changed anything in the long run, Conrad counters that at least their actions prevented the situation from getting worse.

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* In ''Literature/TheFoundation'', one of Salvor Hardin's mottoes is "Never let your morals prevent you from acting correctly".
* ''Literature/AdventureHunters'': Both Ryvas
''Franchise/Warhammer40000ExpandedUniverse'':
** ''Literature/TheEmperorsGift'':
*** The [[spoiler:Inquisition's,
and Marcus are fully aware of also Hyperion's,]] excuse for slaughtering the vileness of their actions but believe them to be necessary to save the kingdom.
* A common trope invoked in so-called "men's adventure" literature of the early 1970s that featured heroes (usually spies, or soldiers) committing de facto murder in order to finish their missions, such as Mack Bolan (aka Literature/TheExecutioner), Death Merchant,
civilians and COBRA. In at least two COBRA novels, the "hero" (Jon Skul) kills police officers and innocent bystanders in order to complete his missions. When called to task for the former, he more or less invokes the trope while actually criticizing the person for being upset about ''cops being murdered''.
* A common theme
guardsmen who took part in the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series. The main characters (who are only 13-16, mind you) are forced campaign to do some terrible things retake Armageddon. They argue it's better for a few thousand potentially corrupt souls to prevent both humans and countless other alien species being enslaved by a PuppeteerParasite species. This includes trapping another kid die than risk having to potentially slaughter millions of innocents in a rat's body the future because he turned traitor, killing sentient beings so their bodies can't be used as hosts, manipulating an ActualPacifist to go against their nature to kill...in the very last book they [[spoiler: kill tens of let the thousands live.
*** Inquisitor Kysnaros' view
of unprotected Yeerks]]. When they're accused why he is prolonging the conflict with the [[spoiler:Space Wolves]]: in his view, not bringing them to heel runs the risk of the Imperium sinking into a civil war crimes, on a par with the Horus Heresy.
*** Grand Master Joros advises Kysnaros to open fire on [[spoiler:Logan Grimnar]]'s fleet, in the hopes of either forcing [[spoiler:Grimnar]] to capitulate or taking him as a hostage to force the [[spoiler:Space Wolves]] into compliance. He even admits
this is their justification.
** In
when [[spoiler:Grimnar]] confronts the prequel ''The Hork-Bajir Chronicles'', [[GeneralRipper Alloran]] gives Inquisition forces, stating his actions were for the order to create greater good. It results in [[spoiler:Grimnar burying a [[SyntheticPlague Quantum Virus]] to wipe out power axe in Joros' chest]] and the Hork-Bajir, rather than let [[spoiler:Space Wolves]] [[TheGlovesComeOff effectively declaring war on the Yeerks use their bodies. [[AllForNothing And then Inquisition]].
** ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'': Colonel-Commissar Gaunt's justification for leaving Tanith to burn at
the Yeerks take over beginning of series is that the planet anyway]]. It's debatable whether could not have been saved no matter what he ever truly shows remorse did. It is the act of not letting the Tanith soldiers stay behind and die for his actions.
* One
their planet that invokes this trope. He made them 'ghosts' because that is what he had to do as a loyal officer of the main themes of ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune''. Leto II has Imperium.
** ''Literature/SoulDrinkers'': In ''Chapter War'',
the ability Inquisitor Thaddeus lied to see the future get aboard a Howling Griffons' ship. When they came to a (not entirely) unprecedented extent, head, and has seen that humanity, as a species, will die somewhere down the line if civilization is not altered from its present course. This leads him they try to turn himself into a tyrannical GodEmperor who ruthlessly and callously manipulates and uses everyone around imprison him, and also includes limiting technology and a eugenics program. This state of affairs lasts over 3,000 years, and throughout it all Leto II is shown he kills one to hate what he's doing, wishing that things could escape. He once "would have gone another way... but his future sight has determined that only through this despotism can he prevent never accepted the death of humanity. Eventually, his plan reaches its [[ByronicHero Byronic conclusion]]. [[spoiler:The chaotic fallout from Leto II's assassination and the end of his oppression eventually triggers the Scattering: a galaxy-scale diaspora that eventually causes the human race to diversify, which is what Leto's visions had shown to be the way to save humanity.]]
* In ''Literature/ThisImmortal'', this is what Conrad's excuse for having founded [[LaResistance Radpol]]
good Imperial servant as Konstantin Karaghiosis and engaged in prolonged guerrilla warfare, reducing the number of uncontaminated areas on Earth even further, boils down to. When Hasan points out that none of what they did changed anything in the long run, Conrad counters that at least their actions prevented the situation from getting worse.a necessary evil. But he was much wiser now."



* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has several characters who will give this reason for their actions, but none can compare to the sheer lengths that Bloodraven went to to exterminate House Blackfyre and their claim to the Targaryen throne. He broke every taboo in Westerosi society, up to and including murdering Aenys Blackfyre under a flag of truce and diplomacy, in the pursuit of his goals. The murder of Aenys was considered heinous enough that his favorite grand-nephew, King Aegon the Unlikely, the direct beneficiary of that action, exiled him to the Wall for it. But this may well be a case of Main/TheExtremistWasRight, because Aegon's reign is largely untroubled by the threat of another major uprising by the Blackfyres.
* In the ''[[Literature/AncillaryJustice Imperial Radch]]'' series, the empire of the Radch fervently believes in the interdependent values of "Justice, Propriety, and Benefit", and Lord Anaander Mianaai claims that all of her actions, however heinous, are intended to benefit the Radch. Breq counters that when every individual Radchaai citizen knows that they could be killed on her whim, Mianaai's not doing a very good job of being Just or Proper and has a [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans pretty self-serving]] notion of Benefit.
* Zack invokes this trope quite a lot in ''Literature/TheMentalState'' in order to justify the extreme methods he uses to survive in prison and improve the quality of the prisoners' living conditions.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has several ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
** This is a major theme in the series with the three male main
characters who will give this reason for forced to act progressively more brutal as their actions, but none can compare to responsibility grows and the sheer lengths that Bloodraven went situation worsens. Includes such gems as using friends like pawns, executing friends, torture by way of dismemberment, allowing bad guys to to exterminate House Blackfyre and their claim to the Targaryen throne. He broke every taboo in Westerosi society, up to and including murdering Aenys Blackfyre under a flag enslave hundreds of truce and diplomacy, in the pursuit of his goals. The murder of Aenys was considered heinous enough that his favorite grand-nephew, King Aegon the Unlikely, the direct beneficiary of that action, exiled him to the Wall for it. But this may well be a case of Main/TheExtremistWasRight, because Aegon's reign is largely untroubled by the threat of another major uprising by the Blackfyres.
* In the ''[[Literature/AncillaryJustice Imperial Radch]]'' series, the empire of the Radch fervently believes in the interdependent values of "Justice, Propriety, and Benefit", and Lord Anaander Mianaai claims that all of her actions, however heinous, are intended to benefit the Radch. Breq counters that when every individual Radchaai citizen knows that they could be killed on her whim, Mianaai's not doing a very good job of being Just or Proper and has a [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans pretty self-serving]] notion of Benefit.
* Zack invokes this trope quite a lot in ''Literature/TheMentalState''
women in order to justify secure a temporary military alliance, creating an army of superpowered men who will eventually go insane, and purposely destroying your own humanity in order to be up for the extreme methods job of saving the world.
** Inverted in that Rand's inability to kill any woman, even when she's a villain, causes his [[spoiler:mentor to die.]]
* In the Indian novel ''Literature/TheWhiteTiger'', [[spoiler:Balram believed that the only way
he uses to survive in prison could become an entrepreneur and improve the quality break out of the prisoners' living conditions.coop was to kill Ashok. Hell, when you look at how things work, he was probably right.]].
* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had the ''Redeker Plan''. Which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).



* ''Literature/DaystarAndShadow'': When Robin feels guilty for interrogating some priests, then killing them for knowing too much and [[FieryCoverup burning the church down]], Shadow reminds him that it was necessary.
* ''Franchise/Warhammer40000ExpandedUniverse'':
** ''Literature/TheEmperorsGift'':
*** The [[spoiler:Inquisition's, and also Hyperion's,]] excuse for slaughtering the civilians and guardsmen who took part in the campaign to retake Armageddon. They argue it's better for a few thousand potentially corrupt souls to die than risk having to potentially slaughter millions of innocents in the future because they let the thousands live.
*** Inquisitor Kysnaros' view of why he is prolonging the conflict with the [[spoiler:Space Wolves]]: in his view, not bringing them to heel runs the risk of the Imperium sinking into a civil war on a par with the Horus Heresy.
*** Grand Master Joros advises Kysnaros to open fire on [[spoiler:Logan Grimnar]]'s fleet, in the hopes of either forcing [[spoiler:Grimnar]] to capitulate or taking him as a hostage to force the [[spoiler:Space Wolves]] into compliance. He even admits this when [[spoiler:Grimnar]] confronts the Inquisition forces, stating his actions were for the greater good. It results in [[spoiler:Grimnar burying a power axe in Joros' chest]] and the [[spoiler:Space Wolves]] [[TheGlovesComeOff effectively declaring war on the Inquisition]].
** ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'': Colonel-Commissar Gaunt's justification for leaving Tanith to burn at the beginning of series is that the planet could not have been saved no matter what he did. It is the act of not letting the Tanith soldiers stay behind and die for their planet that invokes this trope. He made them 'ghosts' because that is what he had to do as a loyal officer of the Imperium.
** ''Literature/SoulDrinkers'': In ''Chapter War'', the Inquisitor Thaddeus lied to get aboard a Howling Griffons' ship. When they came to a head, and they try to imprison him, he kills one to escape. He once "would have never accepted the death of a good Imperial servant as a necessary evil. But he was much wiser now."
* In the first book of ''Literature/TheQueensThief'', the Queen of Attolia is presented as a vicious tyrant who hangs disloyal barons from the walls of her palace, tortures anyone disloyal, and ruthlessly destroys her foes. The second book shows TheWomanBeneathTheQueenlyMask, revealing that she is so ruthless because anything less would lead to either a forced marriage or a civil war, in which her country would surely come under the heel of a greedy baron that would carelessly bleed it dry. By making herself untouchable and terrifying, and giving no quarter to any disloyalty, Attolia ensures that her people have a ruler who actually cares about the well-being of all their citizens, not just the rich and powerful ones.
* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
** This is a major theme in the series with the three male main characters forced to act progressively more brutal as their responsibility grows and the situation worsens. Includes such gems as using friends like pawns, executing friends, torture by way of dismemberment, allowing bad guys to enslave hundreds of women in order to secure a temporary military alliance, creating an army of superpowered men who will eventually go insane, and purposely destroying your own humanity in order to be up for the job of saving the world.
** Inverted in that Rand's inability to kill any woman, even when she's a villain, causes his [[spoiler:mentor to die.]]
* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had the ''Redeker Plan''. Which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).
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* ''Literature/ImTheVillainessSoImTamingTheFinalBoss'': Keith Elgrid, Claude's servant, started illegal demon trafficking with a landlord to get permission to borrow the latter's lands for demon refugees of Claude's forest. He only did so because of the threat of eviction, and he only picked demons who consented to be smuggled.

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* Subverted in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/NightWatchDiscworld'', where Vetinari suggests that a monument be erected to the watchmen who died in the Glorious Revolution of May 25th, engraved with the phrase "They Did the Job They Had to Do." Vimes angrily replies, "No! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything."

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'':
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Subverted in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/NightWatchDiscworld'', where Vetinari suggests that a monument be erected to the watchmen who died in the Glorious Revolution of May 25th, engraved with the phrase "They Did the Job They Had to Do." Vimes angrily replies, "No! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything."



* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':
** In ''Literature/SummerKnight'', [[spoiler:Aurora]] says that she must stop the interchange between the Summer and Winter Courts, and it's [[DirtyBusiness horrible]] but she didn't set the price.
** In ''Literature/{{Changes}}'' this is what Harry does. [[spoiler: He'll go all out to do anything for his goal to save his daughter's life, including taking the position of the Winter Knight, killing the old one in the process, getting all his friends at risk of death, even destabilizing the White Council and most of all, killing his lover to use the very dark magic his enemies sought to use on him right back at them]].
-->'''Harry:''' [[spoiler:I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me.]]
* The witch Senna Wales of ''Literature/{{Everworld}}'', as mentioned above, occasionally says something to this effect to the other main characters in reference to her [[TheChessmaster schemes]], which often involve some poor sap being [[CompellingVoice bewitched]].



* ''Literature/GoToSleepAJeffTheKillerRewrite'': Liu's final words are "W-why?" after Jeff stabs him. He says that he had to, so his family would no longer need to live in this cruel world. Of course, this reasoning is dubious since Jeff has just snapped to his insanity.
--> '''Jeff:''' I- I had to Liu. I promise you'll go to a better place now. You'll be asleep with Mommy and Daddy, and not have to live in this sick and terrible world. Please, [[TitleDrop go to sleep]].



* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had the ''Redeker Plan''. Which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).



* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':
** In ''Literature/SummerKnight'', [[spoiler:Aurora]] says that she must stop the interchange between the Summer and Winter Courts, and it's [[DirtyBusiness horrible]] but she didn't set the price.
** In ''Literature/{{Changes}}'' this is what Harry does. [[spoiler: He'll go all out to do anything for his goal to save his daughter's life, including taking the position of the Winter Knight, killing the old one in the process, getting all his friends at risk of death, even destabilizing the White Council and most of all, killing his lover to use the very dark magic his enemies sought to use on him right back at them]].
-->'''Harry:''' [[spoiler:I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me.]]
* This is a major theme in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' with the three male main characters forced to act progressively more brutal as their responsibility grows and the situation worsens. Includes such gems as using friends like pawns, executing friends, torture by way of dismemberment, allowing bad guys to enslave hundreds of women in order to secure a temporary military alliance, creating an army of superpowered men who will eventually go insane, and purposely destroying your own humanity in order to be up for the job of saving the world.
** Inverted in that Rand's inability to kill any woman, even when she's a villain, causes his [[spoiler:mentor to die.]]
* The witch Senna Wales of ''Literature/{{Everworld}}'', as mentioned above, occasionally says something to this effect to the other main characters in reference to her [[TheChessmaster schemes]], which often involve some poor sap being [[CompellingVoice bewitched]].

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* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':
** In ''Literature/SummerKnight'', [[spoiler:Aurora]] says that she must stop the interchange between the Summer and Winter Courts, and it's [[DirtyBusiness horrible]] but she didn't set the price.
** In ''Literature/{{Changes}}'' this is what Harry does. [[spoiler: He'll go all out to do anything
''Literature/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFuture'': Kaczynski only briefly mentions his bombings, saying he did them for his goal to save his daughter's life, including taking the position attention so people would become aware of the Winter Knight, killing the old one in the process, getting all his friends at risk of death, even destabilizing the White Council and most of all, killing his lover to use the very dark magic his enemies sought to use on him right back at them]].
-->'''Harry:''' [[spoiler:I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me.]]
* This is a major theme in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' with the three male main characters forced to act progressively more brutal as their responsibility grows and the situation worsens. Includes such gems as using friends like pawns, executing friends, torture by way of dismemberment, allowing bad guys to enslave hundreds of women in order to secure a temporary military alliance, creating an army of superpowered men who will eventually go insane, and purposely destroying your own
how industrial society oppresses humanity in order to and must be up for destroyed, or else we all may turn into complete slaves of our technology. Getting the job of saving the world.
** Inverted in that Rand's inability
manifesto published turns out to kill any woman, even when she's a villain, causes have been entirely Kaczynski's goal with them. He claims otherwise if it was published very few would have ever read his [[spoiler:mentor to die.]]
* The witch Senna Wales of ''Literature/{{Everworld}}'', as mentioned above, occasionally says something to this effect to the other main characters in reference to her [[TheChessmaster schemes]], which often involve some poor sap being [[CompellingVoice bewitched]].
work.



* ''Literature/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFuture'': Kaczynski only briefly mentions his bombings, saying he did them for attention so people would become aware of how industrial society oppresses humanity and must be destroyed, or else we all may turn into complete slaves of our technology. Getting the manifesto published turns out to have been entirely Kaczynski's goal with them. He claims otherwise if it was published very few would have ever read his work.


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* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
** This is a major theme in the series with the three male main characters forced to act progressively more brutal as their responsibility grows and the situation worsens. Includes such gems as using friends like pawns, executing friends, torture by way of dismemberment, allowing bad guys to enslave hundreds of women in order to secure a temporary military alliance, creating an army of superpowered men who will eventually go insane, and purposely destroying your own humanity in order to be up for the job of saving the world.
** Inverted in that Rand's inability to kill any woman, even when she's a villain, causes his [[spoiler:mentor to die.]]
* ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' had the ''Redeker Plan''. Which is basically a strategy for using refugees as zombie bait while government forces regroup. Despite the horrific inhumanity of the plan, the world's governments get so desperate that they use it anyway... and the plan arguably saves humankind (or, at the very least, prevents said governments from collapsing and leaving the world in anarchy).
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* In the first book of ''Literature/TheQueensThief'', the Queen of Attolia is presented as a vicious tyrant who hangs disloyal barons from the walls of her palace, tortures anyone disloyal, and ruthlessly destroys her foes. The second book shows TheWomanBeneathTheQueenlyMask, revealing that she is so ruthless because anything less would lead to either a forced marriage or a civil war, in which her country would surely come under the heel of a greedy baron that would carelessly bleed it dry. By making herself untouchable and terrifying, and giving no quarter to any disloyalty, Attolia ensures that her people have a ruler who actually cares about the well-being of all their citizens, not just the rich and powerful ones.
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* ''Literature/DiscoursesOnLivy'' talks about how necessity must sometimes "President" trump what is good for the sake of preserving liberty.

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* ''Literature/IndustrialSocietyAndItsFuture'': Kaczynski only briefly mentions his bombings, saying he did them for attention so people would become aware of how industrial society oppresses humanity and must be destroyed, or else we all may turn into complete slaves of our technology. Getting the manifesto published turns out to have been entirely Kaczynski's goal with them. He claims otherwise if it was published very few would have ever read his work.
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* ''Literature/TrappedOnDraconica'': [[spoiler: Taurok]] hates every single order [[spoiler: Gothon]] gives him over the course of the story but follows them to keep his family safe.]]

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* ''Literature/TrappedOnDraconica'': [[spoiler: Taurok]] hates every single order [[spoiler: Gothon]] gives him over the course of the story but follows them to keep his family safe.]]

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