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"Snake, this page is about HoYay in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series."
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* Hideo Kojima has been known to occasionally retweet ship fanart of both Metal Gear and VideoGame/DeathStranding on Twitter; this includes fanart of Bosselot (Big Boss x Ocelot) and [=BBKaz=] (Big Boss x Miller).
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* Pretty much ''every single line'' spoken between Big Boss and Python is FoeYay-tastic, down to Big Boss recalling their 'training sessions' and Python yelling "Feels good to me, how about ''you''!" before returning fire during the boss battle. It's ridiculous.
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* Pretty much ''every single line'' spoken between Big Boss and Python is FoeYay-tastic, Python, down to Big Boss recalling their 'training sessions' and Python yelling "Feels good to me, how about ''you''!" before returning fire during the boss battle. It's ridiculous.
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* Also, Snake's post-battle conversation with Psycho Mantis has a (probably accidental) line. It's fine to have the guy who can look deeply into minds rant about the common man's prevalent desire to mindlessly breed and pass on genes, but following with the statement "But you... you are different..." to Snake (granted, ''MGS4'' points out that the cloning process made him sterile anyway) is just asking for trouble.
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* Also, Snake's post-battle conversation with Psycho Mantis has a (probably accidental) line. It's fine to have the guy who can look deeply into minds rant about the common man's prevalent desire to mindlessly breed and pass on genes, but following with the statement "But you... you are different..." to Snake (granted, ''MGS4'' ''[=MGS4=]'' points out that the cloning process made him sterile anyway) is just asking for trouble.
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* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot outdo Snake and Otacon in the "barely even subtext" category: a Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot and Big Boss from the minute they first met shared a "Pure Love". [[http://postimg.org/image/jvz2fgzwb/]].
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* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot outdo Snake and Otacon in the "barely even subtext" category: a Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot and Big Boss from the minute they first met shared a "Pure Love". [[http://postimg.org/image/jvz2fgzwb/]].cc/image/jvz2fgzwb/]].
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* Also, Snake's post-battle conversation with Psycho Mantis has a (probably accidental) line. It's fine to have the guy who can look deeply into minds rant about the common man's prevalent desire to mindlessly breed and pass on genes, but following with the statement "But you... you are different..." to Snake is just asking for trouble.
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* Also, Snake's post-battle conversation with Psycho Mantis has a (probably accidental) line. It's fine to have the guy who can look deeply into minds rant about the common man's prevalent desire to mindlessly breed and pass on genes, but following with the statement "But you... you are different..." to Snake (granted, ''MGS4'' points out that the cloning process made him sterile anyway) is just asking for trouble.
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** A [[https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/297001402318848000 2013 tweet]] [[WordOfGod from Hideo Kojima's]] Japanese account has him discuss the then-popular [[{{Series/Sherlock}} JohnLock ship]] (asking why Sherlock doesn't just marry Watson already) while comparing the dynamic directly to Snake and Otacon.
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*** If you use mods to be able to use freecam in cutscenes, you can see Venom briefly touch Kaz's hand when he's being lied down on a stroller after he's rescused from Afghanistan.
*** Using the same kind mod, you can see Kaz smiling at Venom when he gets into the chopper after the fight with Sahelanthropus.
*** Venom seems very protective about Kaz, always helping him get on and off choppers, give him his cane whenever he drops it and helps him stand and walk whenever it's needed.
*** Using the same kind mod, you can see Kaz smiling at Venom when he gets into the chopper after the fight with Sahelanthropus.
*** Venom seems very protective about Kaz, always helping him get on and off choppers, give him his cane whenever he drops it and helps him stand and walk whenever it's needed.
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** "[[CrackPairing Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, as Otacon sits pressed against his back on the snowmobile. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
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** "[[CrackPairing "[[ShipTease Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, as Otacon sits pressed against his back on the snowmobile. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
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*** Extra content that Paz apparently didn't mention in her tape is how Big Boss/Snake orders Kaz around, asking him to turn around and eventually drop his towel, specifically so he can analyse Kaz's body for scratch-marks and other signs [[ReallyGetsAround of the affairs Kaz has been rumoured to have had]] (he even remarks on the marks that Kaz has ''on his ass'', and Kaz keeps worriedly asking where Big Boss' hands are going), and how Snake eventually gives the ultimatum of "It's either women, or us." Kaz's response - "can't I have both?" - can easily be interpreted as him expressing an interest in [[BiTheWay both women and Big Boss]].
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*** Extra content that Paz apparently didn't mention in her tape is how Big Boss/Snake orders Kaz around, asking him to turn around and eventually drop his towel, specifically so he can analyse Kaz's body for scratch-marks and other signs [[ReallyGetsAround of the affairs Kaz has been rumoured to have had]] (he even remarks on the marks that Kaz has ''on his ass'', and Kaz keeps worriedly asking where Big Boss' hands are going), and how Snake eventually gives the ultimatum of "It's either women, or us." Kaz's response - "can't I have both?" - can easily be interpreted as him expressing an interest in [[BiTheWay both women and Big Boss]].Boss.
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* An easter egg in the Tanker mission of ''Metal Gear Solid 2'' involves a codec call where Otacon catches Snake masturbating to one of the pin-up posters. Pressing the shoulder buttons to hear Snake's thoughts results in a shocked Snake muttering "You were watching?!" and "...you too?".
** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
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-->'''David Hayter:''' [[http://youtu.be/qkdQFrMJ_RQ?t=6m22s [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick.]] In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoDaddies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoDaddies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
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-->'''David Hayter:''' [[http://youtu.be/qkdQFrMJ_RQ?t=6m22s [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick.]] In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner [[HeterosexualLifePartners platonic way]].
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'',[[HasTwoDaddies [[HasTwoMommies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'',
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* In ''The Phantom Pain'' if you return from a mission too dirty, Ocelot will tell Snake he stinks and throw a bucket of water on him. However, if your bond with Quiet is high enough she will interrupt and invite Snake to [[FanService shower with her]]. Ocelot's jealousy is hilariously obvious the entire time.
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* In ''The Phantom Pain'' if you return from a mission too dirty, Ocelot will tell Snake he stinks and throw a bucket of water on him. However, if your bond with Quiet is high enough she will interrupt and invite Snake to [[FanService [[{{Fanservice}} shower with her]]. Ocelot's jealousy is hilariously obvious the entire time.
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* In the final scene of ''The Phantom Pain'', [[spoiler:Ocelot lights the real Big Boss's cigar as he says his last goodbyes. The framing of the scene (not to mention how unnecessarily close Ocelot leans in) strongly resembles a farewell kiss. ]]
* Thanks to the PC version of Phantom Pain it is possible to switch Ocelot for Quiet in a number of her scenes. This also includes the rather famous/infamous rain dance scene that Quiet and Snake share in said game ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQi2jdciQo as can be seen here]]). Sadly Ocelot doesn't strip in this version.
* Thanks to the PC version of Phantom Pain it is possible to switch Ocelot for Quiet in a number of her scenes. This also includes the rather famous/infamous rain dance scene that Quiet and Snake share in said game ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQi2jdciQo as can be seen here]]). Sadly Ocelot doesn't strip in this version.
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* In the final scene of ''The Phantom Pain'', [[spoiler:Ocelot lights the real Big Boss's cigar as he says his last goodbyes. The framing of the scene (not to mention how unnecessarily close Ocelot leans in) strongly resembles a farewell kiss. ]]
* Thanks to the PC version ofPhantom Pain ''Phantom Pain'' it is possible to switch Ocelot for Quiet in a number of her scenes. This also includes the rather famous/infamous rain dance scene that Quiet and Snake share in said game ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQi2jdciQo as can be seen here]]). Sadly Ocelot doesn't strip in this version.
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* In ''Peace Walker'', some of the missions involve looking through the doors of houses to find people inside. One of the 'incorrect' houses is surrounded by the sound of a shower. If you make Big Boss look through, he makes an aroused 'Oooh' sound, which is rudely responded to by a ''male'' "Who's there?".
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* In ''Peace Walker'', some of the missions involve looking through the doors of houses to find people inside. One of the 'incorrect' houses is surrounded by the sound of a shower. If you make Big Boss look through, he makes an aroused 'Oooh' sound, which is rudely responded to by a ''male'' "Who's there?".there?"
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* In the aftermath of the battle of Outer Haven in ''MGS 4'', two of the Haven Troopers (who are specifically noted to be [[AmazonBrigade all female]]) can be seen holding each other rather intimately.
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* In ''3'', Big Boss's attempt to get out of the cell by persuading Johnny gives the impression he's trying to exchange sexual favours for his freedom, particularly the shot where he runs his palm up and down the bar before asking, "you must be pretty lonely". Johnny responds by showing Big Boss a picture of his wife, which causes Big Boss to visibly and audibly change his mannerisms.
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}d couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several times that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else" [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]], and you can make a pretty good case that they're more than just partners in ''crime''.
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}d {{Ship Tease}}d couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several times that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else" [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]], and you can make a pretty good case that they're more than just partners in ''crime''.
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** The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
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** The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake when [[spoiler:Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoMommies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoMommies [[HasTwoDaddies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
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* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot outdo Snake and Otacon in the "barely even subtext" category: a Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot is in love with BB, so the subtext is really only in whether or not BB feels the same way.
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* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot outdo Snake and Otacon in the "barely even subtext" category: a Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot is in love with BB, so and Big Boss from the subtext is really only in whether or not BB feels the same way.minute they first met shared a "Pure Love". [[http://postimg.org/image/jvz2fgzwb/]].
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* David Hayter has also confirmed that he and Christopher Randolph saw the relationship as "romantic" and played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game.
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoMommies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
* The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
* In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. This was played for laughs because it wasn't exactly Otacon's finest moment, but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]] and their first meeting could pass for a particularly warped sort of MeetCute RescueRomance.
* In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. Your call whether the annoyance was jealousy or just wincing at how awkward their attempts at flirting were.
* "[[CrackPairing Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, as Otacon sits pressed against his back on the snowmobile. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
* In ''Metal Gear Online'', Otacon will only sing the victory hymn if Snake is whistling with him.
* Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido." Know a lot about that libido, eh Hal?
* The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
* In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. This was played for laughs because it wasn't exactly Otacon's finest moment, but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]] and their first meeting could pass for a particularly warped sort of MeetCute RescueRomance.
* In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. Your call whether the annoyance was jealousy or just wincing at how awkward their attempts at flirting were.
* "[[CrackPairing Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, as Otacon sits pressed against his back on the snowmobile. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
* In ''Metal Gear Online'', Otacon will only sing the victory hymn if Snake is whistling with him.
* Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido." Know a lot about that libido, eh Hal?
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** In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', during the codec call easter eggs, Otacon acts very irritated and jealous during the Samus call ("Yeah, well, Samus is ''deadly''"), and in most of their conversations there's this flirty undertone, especially in the ROB call ("You sure know your geeky tech stuff, Otacon." "Heh heh, well, y'know...").
** In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', calling Otacon while hiding in a dumpster causes Snake to tease Otacon about how gross it is. They laugh together, and Otacon then says, in a flirty tone, that Snake needs to clean himself off before he's allowed to come back. Snake responds, in an equally flirty tone, "[[ShowerOfLove I'll see what I can do.]]" (Keep in mind this is a CallBack to the conversation between Rose and Raiden if Raiden gets pissed on in ''MGS 2''.)
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping, shot from Otacon's [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
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* In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', during the codec call easter eggs, Otacon acts very irritated and jealous during the Samus call ("Yeah, well, Samus is ''deadly''"), and in most of their conversations there's this flirty undertone, especially in the ROB call ("You sure know your geeky tech stuff, Otacon." "Heh heh, well, y'know...").
* In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', calling Otacon while hiding in a dumpster causes Snake to tease Otacon about how gross it is. They laugh together, and Otacon then says, in a flirty tone, that Snake needs to clean himself off before he's allowed to come back. Snake responds, in an equally flirty tone, "[[ShowerOfLove I'll see what I can do.]]" (Keep in mind this is a CallBack to the conversation between Rose and Raiden if Raiden gets pissed on in ''MGS 2''.)
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping, shot from Otacon's [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
* In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', calling Otacon while hiding in a dumpster causes Snake to tease Otacon about how gross it is. They laugh together, and Otacon then says, in a flirty tone, that Snake needs to clean himself off before he's allowed to come back. Snake responds, in an equally flirty tone, "[[ShowerOfLove I'll see what I can do.]]" (Keep in mind this is a CallBack to the conversation between Rose and Raiden if Raiden gets pissed on in ''MGS 2''.)
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping, shot from Otacon's [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}d couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several time that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else". [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]]
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}d couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several time times that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else". else" [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]][[/note]], and you can make a pretty good case that they're more than just partners in ''crime''.
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoMommies raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
** The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. This was played for laughs because it wasn't exactly Otacon's finest moment, but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]] and their first meeting could pass for a particularly warped sort of MeetCute RescueRomance.
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. Your call whether the annoyance was jealousy or just wincing at how awkward their attempts at flirting were.
** "[[CrackPairing Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, cuddling up to Otacon in the snow. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
** In ''Metal Gear Online'', Otacon will only sing the victory hymn if Snake is whistling with him.
** Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido." Know a lot about that libido, eh Hal?
** An easter egg in the Tanker mission of ''Metal Gear Solid 2'' involves a codec call where Otacon catches Snake masturbating to one of the pin-up posters. Pressing the shoulder buttons to hear Snake's thoughts results in a shocked Snake muttering "You were watching?!" and "...you too?".
*** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
** In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', during the codec call easter eggs, Otacon acts very irritated and jealous during the Samus call ("Yeah, well, Samus is ''deadly''"), and in most of their conversations there's this flirty undertone, especially in the ROB call ("You sure know your geeky tech stuff, Otacon." "Heh heh, well, y'know...").
** In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', calling Otacon while hiding in a dumpster causes Snake to tease Otacon about how gross it is. They laugh together, and Otacon then says, in a flirty tone, that Snake needs to clean himself off before he's allowed to come back. Snake responds, in an equally flirty tone, "[[ShowerOfLove I'll see what I can do.]]" (Keep in mind this is a CallBack to the conversation between Rose and Raiden if Raiden gets pissed on in ''MGS 2''.)
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping, shot from Otacon's [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
** The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him. This is chronologically the last time the audience hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. This was played for laughs because it wasn't exactly Otacon's finest moment, but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]] and their first meeting could pass for a particularly warped sort of MeetCute RescueRomance.
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. Your call whether the annoyance was jealousy or just wincing at how awkward their attempts at flirting were.
** "[[CrackPairing Hal and Dave]], [[ShoutOutThemeNaming that's a good one]]," says Snake, cuddling up to Otacon in the snow. "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Maybe we should take a trip to Jupiter.]]"
** In ''Metal Gear Online'', Otacon will only sing the victory hymn if Snake is whistling with him.
** Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido." Know a lot about that libido, eh Hal?
** An easter egg in the Tanker mission of ''Metal Gear Solid 2'' involves a codec call where Otacon catches Snake masturbating to one of the pin-up posters. Pressing the shoulder buttons to hear Snake's thoughts results in a shocked Snake muttering "You were watching?!" and "...you too?".
*** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
** In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', during the codec call easter eggs, Otacon acts very irritated and jealous during the Samus call ("Yeah, well, Samus is ''deadly''"), and in most of their conversations there's this flirty undertone, especially in the ROB call ("You sure know your geeky tech stuff, Otacon." "Heh heh, well, y'know...").
** In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', calling Otacon while hiding in a dumpster causes Snake to tease Otacon about how gross it is. They laugh together, and Otacon then says, in a flirty tone, that Snake needs to clean himself off before he's allowed to come back. Snake responds, in an equally flirty tone, "[[ShowerOfLove I'll see what I can do.]]" (Keep in mind this is a CallBack to the conversation between Rose and Raiden if Raiden gets pissed on in ''MGS 2''.)
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping, shot from Otacon's [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
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* Solid Snake and Gray Fox used to be partners, before the latter defected to Big Boss and Snake had to kill him [[GoodOldFisticuffs man-to-man]]. After being rebuilt as the Cyborg Ninja, Fox wants nothing more than to [[DeathSeeker die at Snake's hands]], their fight peppered with lines like "Yes, hurt me more! ''More''!", and Fox having screaming orgasms every time Snake hits him, before he performs a HeroicSacrifice to save Snake.
* Try [[FirstPersonSnapshooter taking a photograph]] of the anonymous manchest on the door of the open locker near the Engine Room in ''[=MGS2=]'', show it to Otacon, and see what happens! Or, if that's not your thing, once you get into the third room of the Tanker hold, show Otacon a full film of photographs of Scott Dolph.
-->'''Otacon''': Snake, if you like him so much, I'll print this out and make a panel out of it. Put it over your bed or something.
** Also, you'll hear Snake say "good" if you manage to take clear enough shots.
* A rather infamous example from the first ''Solid'' game:
-->'''Snake:''' ''(to Miller)'' There's no one else I'd rather have in a foxhole than you.
* Also, Snake's post-battle conversation with Psycho Mantis has a (probably accidental) line. It's fine to have the guy who can look deeply into minds rant about the common man's prevalent desire to mindlessly breed and pass on genes, but following with the statement "But you... you are different..." to Snake is just asking for trouble.
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** ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}'' plays out exactly like Ocelot has a crush on Naked Snake. He spends almost all of their encounters desperate to impress Snake, following his advice and improving his technique, with their battle having all the usual ''MGS'' homoeroticism ("I've never felt a tension like this before."). He gets [[TooKinkyToTorture turned on by torture]] for the first time because it was Snake getting it, and after Snake escapes he discovers that Ocelot had stolen his food, to eat the same things Snake eats. EVA hassles Snake repeatedly through the game about how infatuated Ocelot is with him; he remains oblivious to Ocelot's crush, which results in EVA laughing at him. Ocelot disgustedly denies suggested attraction to EVA, yet fails to do so when the same is suggested about Snake. For his part Snake is surprisingly warm towards Ocelot, treating him like a WorthyOpponent and then a close confidant, trusting him enough to tell him his real name.
** Volgin actually taunts Ocelot on his transparent crush on Big Boss, to which he has no rebuttal.
** Volgin actually taunts Ocelot on his transparent crush on Big Boss, to which he has no rebuttal.
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** Gene from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'' remarks on how Big Boss "caught Ocelot's eye", prompting Big Boss to ask confusedly what Ocelot has to do with anything.
** The codec conversation upon recruiting Ocelot in ''Portable Ops'':
** The codec conversation upon recruiting Ocelot in ''Portable Ops'':
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** The end of ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' reveals that ''everything'' Ocelot had done after Big Boss's death, all the manipulations and [[DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent quadruple crossing]] and [[spoiler:having his personality buried under a facsimile of Liquid]] was all for Big Boss. His last words were even "You're pretty good..."
** As if it needed any further confirmation, Ocelot basically admits it during a discussion of Quiet's motives, and romantic feelings towards Venom Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''.
** As if it needed any further confirmation, Ocelot basically admits it during a discussion of Quiet's motives, and romantic feelings towards Venom Snake in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''.
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** In ''The Phantom Pain'' if you return from a mission too dirty, Ocelot will tell Snake he stinks and throw a bucket of water on him. However, if your bond with Quiet is high enough she will interrupt and invite Snake to [[FanService shower with her]]. Ocelot's jealousy is hilariously obvious the entire time.
** While Vamp and Raiden set the bar high for homoerotic blade wounds, [[https://youtu.be/1CDFE-St68U?t=1m20s this hidden cutscene in MGSV]] where Ocelot removes a knife from Snake's chest manages to come pretty close. "Morale taken care of," indeed. It certainly doesn't help that it sounds like the two of them are flirting right before Ocelot pulls the knife out.
** While Vamp and Raiden set the bar high for homoerotic blade wounds, [[https://youtu.be/1CDFE-St68U?t=1m20s this hidden cutscene in MGSV]] where Ocelot removes a knife from Snake's chest manages to come pretty close. "Morale taken care of," indeed. It certainly doesn't help that it sounds like the two of them are flirting right before Ocelot pulls the knife out.
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** In the final scene of ''The Phantom Pain'', [[spoiler:Ocelot lights the real Big Boss's cigar as he says his last goodbyes. The framing of the scene (not to mention how unnecessarily close Ocelot leans in) strongly resembles a farewell kiss. ]]
** Thanks to the PC version of Phantom Pain it is possible to switch Ocelot for Quiet in a number of her scenes. This also includes the rather famous/infamous rain dance scene that Quiet and Snake share in said game ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQi2jdciQo as can be seen here]]). Sadly Ocelot doesn't strip in this version.
** Ocelot often tosses double entendres at Naked Snake's near-identical clone-son Solid Snake in ''MGS'' ("There's nothing like sliding a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber."), with Snake flirting back during the torture room scene. He moans Snake's name and ''kisses'' Snake on the cheek in ''MGS 4'', and when Snake gets kissed his Psyche restores. Yeah, Snake's. For that matter, look at the placement of the [[VisualInnuendo joystick icon on the screen]] during that moment.
* Volgin sees through the Raikov disguise by ''grabbing Snake's crotch''. If you put on the Raikov mask during the battle with him, Volgin will actually hesitate and stop attacking. EVA notes that a Major having so much authority is unusual, but Volgin basically gave Raikov the power to do whatever he wants. The ''MGS 4'' downloadable plot and character map on the PS Store confirms that Volgin and Raikov are lovers, surprising exactly no-one.
* Raiden's relationship with Snake in ''Sons of Liberty'' has the same hero-worshipping chemistry as Ocelot and Naked Snake's first meeting. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp with his sword (the non-metaphorical one).
* Going beyond subtext into actual stated text, Vamp was sleeping with Scott Dolph, the ''Commandant of the Marine Corps,'' circa ''MGS 2''.
** Thanks to the PC version of Phantom Pain it is possible to switch Ocelot for Quiet in a number of her scenes. This also includes the rather famous/infamous rain dance scene that Quiet and Snake share in said game ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQi2jdciQo as can be seen here]]). Sadly Ocelot doesn't strip in this version.
** Ocelot often tosses double entendres at Naked Snake's near-identical clone-son Solid Snake in ''MGS'' ("There's nothing like sliding a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber."), with Snake flirting back during the torture room scene. He moans Snake's name and ''kisses'' Snake on the cheek in ''MGS 4'', and when Snake gets kissed his Psyche restores. Yeah, Snake's. For that matter, look at the placement of the [[VisualInnuendo joystick icon on the screen]] during that moment.
* Volgin sees through the Raikov disguise by ''grabbing Snake's crotch''. If you put on the Raikov mask during the battle with him, Volgin will actually hesitate and stop attacking. EVA notes that a Major having so much authority is unusual, but Volgin basically gave Raikov the power to do whatever he wants. The ''MGS 4'' downloadable plot and character map on the PS Store confirms that Volgin and Raikov are lovers, surprising exactly no-one.
* Raiden's relationship with Snake in ''Sons of Liberty'' has the same hero-worshipping chemistry as Ocelot and Naked Snake's first meeting. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp with his sword (the non-metaphorical one).
* Going beyond subtext into actual stated text, Vamp was sleeping with Scott Dolph, the ''Commandant of the Marine Corps,'' circa ''MGS 2''.
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* Volgin sees through the Raikov disguise by ''grabbing Snake's crotch''. If you put on the Raikov mask during the battle with him, Volgin will actually hesitate and stop attacking. EVA notes that a Major having so much authority is unusual, but Volgin basically gave Raikov the power to do whatever he wants. The ''MGS 4'' downloadable plot and character map on the PS Store confirms that Volgin and Raikov are lovers, surprising exactly no-one.
* Raiden's relationship with Snake in ''Sons of Liberty'' has the same hero-worshipping chemistry as Ocelot and Naked Snake's first meeting. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp with his sword (the non-metaphorical one).
* Going beyond subtext into actual stated text, Vamp was sleeping with Scott Dolph, the ''Commandant of the Marine Corps,'' circa ''MGS 2''.
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* Solid Snake and Gray Fox used to be partners, before the latter defected to Big Boss and Snake had to kill him [[GoodOldFisticuffs man-to-man]]. After being rebuilt as the Cyborg Ninja, Fox wants nothing more than to [[DeathSeeker die at Snake's hands]], their fight peppered with lines like "Yes, hurt me more! ''More''!", and Fox having screaming orgasms every time Snake hits him, before he performs a HeroicSacrifice to save Snake.
* Try [[FirstPersonSnapshooter taking a photograph]] of the anonymous manchest on the door of the open locker near the Engine Room in ''[=MGS2=]'', show it to Otacon, and see what happens! Or, if that's not your thing, once you get into the third room of the Tanker hold, show Otacon a full film of photographs of Scott Dolph.
-->'''Otacon''': Snake, if you like him so much, I'll print this out and make a panel out of it. Put it over your bed or something.
** Also, you'll hear Snake say "good" if you manage to take clear enough shots.
* EVA seems to have a sweet little crush on The Boss in ''MGS 3''. She talks obsessively about how she's jealous of the very pure love between Snake and The Boss, since she herself only understands sexual love. And moans The Boss's name in her sleep. (She also moans for "Snake" and "''Fido''", though.)
* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' has the rather [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything aptly-named]] Strangelove ranting about The Boss, referring to her as "the woman I loved". She'll also outright state that "naked men are not my cup of tea" if you call her while wearing Swim Trunks.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-EFY6MRyd8 Paz's audio diary tapes reveal she was approached by Strangelove while sunbathing]], who gushes about her beautiful skin and implores her to take better care of it. Despite initially sounding almost homophobic about her, Paz becomes a lot more interested when Strangelove starts to apply sunscreen to her despite her protests. She gets more and more audibly aroused as she recalls the memory, until she's able to add little more than that Strangelove is "very beautiful" [[ArmoredClosetGay and then coldly adds that Strangelove is "dangerous"]].
** Cecile is telling Big Boss about her private baths from Strangelove, and when he seems bothered by the idea of Strangelove giving another woman a bath, she responds with a very sensual insinuation that she likes woman-on-woman as much as a heterosexual relationship.
** It's telling as well that, in [[spoiler:her last recorded message in]] ''The Phantom Pain'' Strangelove says she prefers to see her son [[spoiler:Hal (aka Otacon)]] as her child with ''The Boss''. [[spoiler:Which goes a ''long'' way in explaining some of Otacon's tendencies.]]
* Try [[FirstPersonSnapshooter taking a photograph]] of the anonymous manchest on the door of the open locker near the Engine Room in ''[=MGS2=]'', show it to Otacon, and see what happens! Or, if that's not your thing, once you get into the third room of the Tanker hold, show Otacon a full film of photographs of Scott Dolph.
-->'''Otacon''': Snake, if you like him so much, I'll print this out and make a panel out of it. Put it over your bed or something.
** Also, you'll hear Snake say "good" if you manage to take clear enough shots.
* EVA seems to have a sweet little crush on The Boss in ''MGS 3''. She talks obsessively about how she's jealous of the very pure love between Snake and The Boss, since she herself only understands sexual love. And moans The Boss's name in her sleep. (She also moans for "Snake" and "''Fido''", though.)
* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' has the rather [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything aptly-named]] Strangelove ranting about The Boss, referring to her as "the woman I loved". She'll also outright state that "naked men are not my cup of tea" if you call her while wearing Swim Trunks.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-EFY6MRyd8 Paz's audio diary tapes reveal she was approached by Strangelove while sunbathing]], who gushes about her beautiful skin and implores her to take better care of it. Despite initially sounding almost homophobic about her, Paz becomes a lot more interested when Strangelove starts to apply sunscreen to her despite her protests. She gets more and more audibly aroused as she recalls the memory, until she's able to add little more than that Strangelove is "very beautiful" [[ArmoredClosetGay and then coldly adds that Strangelove is "dangerous"]].
** Cecile is telling Big Boss about her private baths from Strangelove, and when he seems bothered by the idea of Strangelove giving another woman a bath, she responds with a very sensual insinuation that she likes woman-on-woman as much as a heterosexual relationship.
** It's telling as well that, in [[spoiler:her last recorded message in]] ''The Phantom Pain'' Strangelove says she prefers to see her son [[spoiler:Hal (aka Otacon)]] as her child with ''The Boss''. [[spoiler:Which goes a ''long'' way in explaining some of Otacon's tendencies.]]
[[AC:Raiden]]
* Raiden's relationship with Snake in ''Sons of Liberty'' has the same hero-worshipping chemistry as Ocelot and Naked Snake's first meeting. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp with his sword (the non-metaphorical one).
[[AC:Other characters]]
* Volgin sees through the Raikov disguise by ''grabbing Snake's crotch''. If you put on the Raikov mask during the battle with him, Volgin will actually hesitate and stop attacking. EVA notes that a Major having so much authority is unusual, but Volgin basically gave Raikov the power to do whatever he wants. The ''MGS 4'' downloadable plot and character map on the PS Store confirms that Volgin and Raikov are lovers, surprising exactly no-one.
* Going beyond subtext into actual stated text, Vamp was sleeping with Scott Dolph, the ''Commandant of the Marine Corps,'' circa ''MGS 2''.
* EVA seems to have a sweet little crush on The Boss in ''MGS 3''. She talks obsessively about how she's jealous of the very pure love between Snake and The Boss, since she herself only understands sexual love. And moans The Boss's name in her sleep. (She also moans for "Snake" and "''Fido''", though.)
* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' has the rather [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything aptly-named]] Strangelove ranting about The Boss, referring to her as "the woman I loved". She'll also outright state that "naked men are not my cup of tea" if you call her while wearing Swim Trunks.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-EFY6MRyd8 Paz's audio diary tapes reveal she was approached by Strangelove while sunbathing]], who gushes about her beautiful skin and implores her to take better care of it. Despite initially sounding almost homophobic about her, Paz becomes a lot more interested when Strangelove starts to apply sunscreen to her despite her protests. She gets more and more audibly aroused as she recalls the memory, until she's able to add little more than that Strangelove is "very beautiful" [[ArmoredClosetGay and then coldly adds that Strangelove is "dangerous"]].
** Cecile is telling Big Boss about her private baths from Strangelove, and when he seems bothered by the idea of Strangelove giving another woman a bath, she responds with a very sensual insinuation that she likes woman-on-woman as much as a heterosexual relationship.
** It's telling as well that, in [[spoiler:her last recorded message in]] ''The Phantom Pain'' Strangelove says she prefers to see her son [[spoiler:Hal (aka Otacon)]] as her child with ''The Boss''. [[spoiler:Which goes a ''long'' way in explaining some of Otacon's tendencies.]]
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* A rather infamous example from the first ''Solid'' game:
-->'''Snake:''' ''(to Miller)'' There's no one else I'd rather have in a foxhole than you.
-->'''Snake:''' ''(to Miller)'' There's no one else I'd rather have in a foxhole than you.
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-->'''Snake:''' ''(to Miller)'' There's no one else I'd rather have in a foxhole than you.
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** An easter egg in the Tanker mission of ''Metal Gear Solid 2'' involves a codec call where Otacon catches Snake masturbating to one of the pin-up posters. Pressing the shoulder buttons to hear Snake's thoughts results in a shocked Snake muttering "You were watching?!" and "...you too?".
*** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
*** Interestingly, while the thought dialogue is typically reused in multiple conversations, these are both unique to this call.
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** The codec conversation upon recruiting Ocelot in ''Portable Ops'':
--> '''Ocelot''': You're out of breath... almost sounds like you're still in battle.\\
'''Snake''': Like I said, I'm on vacation-- not a mission. It's a little resort in the Caribbean. Nice and hot. The scenery... well, I can't complain. I'm keeping busy, though-- care to join me? \\
'''Ocelot''': Hmm. Sounds tempting. Let me think it over...
--> '''Ocelot''': You're out of breath... almost sounds like you're still in battle.\\
'''Snake''': Like I said, I'm on vacation-- not a mission. It's a little resort in the Caribbean. Nice and hot. The scenery... well, I can't complain. I'm keeping busy, though-- care to join me? \\
'''Ocelot''': Hmm. Sounds tempting. Let me think it over...
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*** Extra content that Paz apparently didn't mention in her tape is how Big Boss/Snake orders Kaz around, asking him to turn around and eventually drop his towel, specifically so he can analyse Kaz's body for scratch-marks and other signs of the affairs Kaz has been rumoured to have had (he even remarks on the marks that Kaz has ''on his ass''), and how Snake eventually gives the ultimatum of "It's either women, or us." Kaz's response - "can't I have both?" - can easily be interpreted as him expressing an interest in [[BiTheWay both women and Big Boss]].
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*** Extra content that Paz apparently didn't mention in her tape is how Big Boss/Snake orders Kaz around, asking him to turn around and eventually drop his towel, specifically so he can analyse Kaz's body for scratch-marks and other signs [[ReallyGetsAround of the affairs Kaz has been rumoured to have had had]] (he even remarks on the marks that Kaz has ''on his ass''), ass'', and Kaz keeps worriedly asking where Big Boss' hands are going), and how Snake eventually gives the ultimatum of "It's either women, or us." Kaz's response - "can't I have both?" - can easily be interpreted as him expressing an interest in [[BiTheWay both women and Big Boss]].
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*** Extra content that Paz apparently didn't mention in her tape is how Big Boss/Snake orders Kaz around, asking him to turn around and eventually drop his towel, specifically so he can analyse Kaz's body for scratch-marks and other signs of the affairs Kaz has been rumoured to have had (he even remarks on the marks that Kaz has ''on his ass''), and how Snake eventually gives the ultimatum of "It's either women, or us." Kaz's response - "can't I have both?" - can easily be interpreted as him expressing an interest in [[BiTheWay both women and Big Boss]].
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}ed couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several time that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else". [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]]
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}ed {{ShipTease}}d couple who have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked at length about the meaning of love, and say several time that they taught each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else". [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" is a RunningGag innuendo throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]]
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-->[[http://youtu.be/qkdQFrMJ_RQ?t=6m22s '''David Hayter:''' [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick. In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].]]
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatant who haven't being confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked extensively about the meaning of love, and make several remarks about how the other taught them ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as an AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous "I know Snake better than anyone else" line (a recurring line through the series, which is used as a sexual innuendo every other time it is said). [[http://youtu.be/qkdQFrMJ_RQ?t=6m22s Even the voice actors pick up on it.]]
-->'''David Hayter:''' [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick. In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].
** In ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they live together with Olga's daughter, [[HasTwoMommies whom they've raised]] aboard their plane. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
** David Hayter, Snake's voice actor, confirmed that the relationship between Snake and Otacon was supposed to be "romantic", and confessed that they'd played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game. The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him]]. This is possibly [[spoiler:the last conversation between Snake and Otacon that the audience hears]], and Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. Admittedly it was played somewhat for laughs because of what actually ''did'' happen when they met (from a sufficiently warped mind it could probably qualify as a MeetCute RescueRomance, come to think of it), but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]].
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. (Or Snake was annoyed because of the pure awkwardity of them trying to flirt with each other.)
-->'''David Hayter:''' [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick. In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].
** In ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they live together with Olga's daughter, [[HasTwoMommies whom they've raised]] aboard their plane. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
** David Hayter, Snake's voice actor, confirmed that the relationship between Snake and Otacon was supposed to be "romantic", and confessed that they'd played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game. The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him]]. This is possibly [[spoiler:the last conversation between Snake and Otacon that the audience hears]], and Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met. Admittedly it was played somewhat for laughs because of what actually ''did'' happen when they met (from a sufficiently warped mind it could probably qualify as a MeetCute RescueRomance, come to think of it), but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]].
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken. (Or Snake was annoyed because of the pure awkwardity of them trying to flirt with each other.)
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* Solid Snake and Otacon are probably the most blatant blatantly and extensively {{ShipTease}}ed couple who haven't being have NOT been confirmed as {{Canon}}. They've talked extensively at length about the meaning of love, and make say several remarks about how the other time that they taught them each other ''how'' to love. Add to this lots of snarky banter, the natural chemistry between the two as an a potential AgentsDating scenario, and Otacon's famous statement "I know Snake better than anyone else". [[note]]"I know _____ better than anyone else" line (a recurring line through the series, which is used as a sexual RunningGag innuendo every other time it is said). [[http://youtu.throughout ''Metal Gear'', often accompanying an [[CrotchGrabSexCheck identification by groin grope]].[[/note]]
** David Hayter has also confirmed that he and Christopher Randolph saw the relationship as "romantic" and played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game.
-->[[http://youtu.be/qkdQFrMJ_RQ?t=6m22sEven the voice actors pick up on it.'''David Hayter:''' [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick. In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].]]
-->'''David Hayter:''' [Otacon] is just Snake's gay sidekick. In a [[HeterosexualLifePartner platonic way]].
** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, and they're implied to be living together. By ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' they live together with Olga's daughter, they're shown to both be living on the ''Nomad'', [[HasTwoMommies whom they've raised]] aboard their plane.raising Olga's daughter together]]. Lampshaded in the ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review as the stuff of YaoiFangirl fantasies.
**David Hayter, Snake's voice actor, confirmed that the relationship between Snake and Otacon was supposed to be "romantic", and confessed that they'd played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game. The "romantic" nature of their relationship is also evident in [[TheStinger the second stinger]] at the end of ''[=MGS4=]'', [[spoiler:when Snake decides to live the rest of his (short) life in peace and Otacon doesn't hesitate to go with him]]. him. This is possibly [[spoiler:the chronologically the last conversation between Snake and Otacon that time the audience hears]], and hears Snake speak, and]] Snake's last word is Otacon's name.
** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met.Admittedly it This was played somewhat for laughs because of what actually ''did'' happen when they met (from a sufficiently warped mind it could probably qualify as a MeetCute RescueRomance, come to think of it), wasn't exactly Otacon's finest moment, but the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything is [[ThePowerOfLove still strong]].
strong]] and their first meeting could pass for a particularly warped sort of MeetCute RescueRomance.
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken.(Or Snake Your call whether the annoyance was annoyed because of the pure awkwardity of them trying to flirt with each other.)jealousy or just wincing at how awkward their attempts at flirting were.
** David Hayter has also confirmed that he and Christopher Randolph saw the relationship as "romantic" and played much of their dialogue as love scenes, particularly the [[MultipleEndings 'Bad' Ending]] of the [[VideoGameRemake remake of]] the first game.
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** In ''Metal Gear Solid Mobile'', Snake gets out of a MindScrew when Otacon asks him to remember what it was like when they first met.
** In ''[=MGS4=]'', when [[spoiler:Otacon and Naomi started acting lovesick towards each other]], Snake looked damned annoyed and really rather jealous, with a hefty side order of heartbroken.
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', Otacon monologues about how he found a 'happy family' and 'learned that [he] could love'. Since his love interest in the previous game was hardly ''family'', it's natural to assume he's talking about Snake, who he seems to be living with.
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** Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido."
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** Quoth Otacon to Snake in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'': "You and your overactive libido."" Know a lot about that libido, eh Hal?
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping and it's shot through Otacon's eyes, and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot give Snake and Otacon a run for their money in the "barely even subtext" category. A Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot is in love with BB.
* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot give Snake and Otacon a run for their money in the "barely even subtext" category. A Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot is in love with BB.
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's a weird moment where Snake takes Otacon's shoulder and asks him if he's feeling okay, checking for symptoms of FOX-DIE. Otacon accuses Snake of "[[MistakenForGay getting friendly all of a sudden]]". Snake immediately jumps back a couple of metres and begins to act really coyly - "[[{{Tsundere}} N-No, I'm just glad you're okay.]]". In ''The Twin Snakes'', Snake does some much more invasive groping and it's groping, shot through from Otacon's eyes, [=POV=], and Snake looks ''really'' into it.
* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelotgive outdo Snake and Otacon a run for their money in the "barely even subtext" category. A category: a Japanese commentary track [[WordOfGay confirms]] that Ocelot is in love with BB.BB, so the subtext is really only in whether or not BB feels the same way.
* Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot
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* [[MagnificentBastard Revolver Ocelot]] often tosses double entendres in the direction of [[CoolOldGuy Solid Snake]] in ''MGS'' ("There's nothing like sliding a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber."), with Snake flirting back during the torture room scene. He ''kisses'' Snake (on the cheek, though) in ''MGS 4'', moans 'Snake...' beforehand, and when Snake gets kissed his Psyche restores. Yeah, Snake's. For that matter, look at the placement of the [[VisualInnuendo joystick icon on the screen]] during that moment. It helps that, as noted above, Ocelot had a canon crush on Snake's identical clone "father", Big Boss.
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* On the subject of Raiden (sort of), his relationship with Snake has to be of the Ocelot/Boss mould. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp (with his sword, but still).
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp (with his sword, but still).
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* On the subject of Raiden (sort of), his Raiden's relationship with Snake in ''Sons of Liberty'' has to be of the Ocelot/Boss mould.same hero-worshipping chemistry as Ocelot and Naked Snake's first meeting. Quinton Flynn does a great job playing Raiden's first encounter with Snake like a mixed-up {{Fangirl}}, both mad at Snake for [[UnwittingPawn using him like a pawn]] and jawdroppingly impressed by the fact that it was ''Solid Snake''.
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp(with with his sword, but still).sword (the non-metaphorical one).
* [[DepravedBisexual Vamp]] flirts with and gets uncomfortably close to Raiden all throughout ''MGS 2''. Their encounter in ''4'' drops any pretense of subtlety, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLQMO0W9U8#t=1m12s with a scene that's more erotic than some actual sex scenes]], including Vamp licking Raiden's [[VisualInnuendo thick white artificial blood]] off of his crotch-knives, and a session of grappling and [[OrgasmicCombat groaning]] that involves Raiden penetrating Vamp
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** It's telling as well in ''The Phantom Pain'' [[spoiler:in her last recorded message]], in which Strangelove remarks how she prefers to see [[spoiler:her son, Hal (aka Otacon) as her child with ''The Boss''. Which goes a ''long'' way in explaining some of Otacon's tendencies.]]
* Big Boss and Kaz in ''Peace Walker'' seem to exist mainly as Hideo Kojima's attempt to outgay his previous effort of Snake and Otacon, in one single game:
* Big Boss and Kaz in ''Peace Walker'' seem to exist mainly as Hideo Kojima's attempt to outgay his previous effort of Snake and Otacon, in one single game:
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** It's telling as well that, in [[spoiler:her last recorded message in]] ''The Phantom Pain'' [[spoiler:in her last recorded message]], in which Strangelove remarks how says she prefers to see [[spoiler:her son, Hal her son [[spoiler:Hal (aka Otacon) Otacon)]] as her child with ''The Boss''. Which [[spoiler:Which goes a ''long'' way in explaining some of Otacon's tendencies.]]
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* Big Boss and Kaz in ''Peace Walker'' seem to exist mainly as Hideo Kojima's attempt to outgay his previous
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** The HoYay between Kaz and Big Boss got to the point that Kojima himself stated on Twitter that he had to push for certain shots of the pair in close proximity, because his staff were concerned by the implications, and in-game, some of Kaz's protestations - particularly in disagreements with Ocelot and over Quiet - can come across as overly jealous. This is to say nothing of [[spoiler: the true ending, where Kaz refuses to follow the real Big Boss' plan and sounds overly spurned]].
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** The In ''The Phantom Pain'', the HoYay between Kaz and Big Boss got to the point that Kojima himself stated on Twitter that he had to push for certain shots of the pair in close proximity, because his staff were concerned by the implications, and in-game, some of Kaz's protestations - particularly in disagreements with Ocelot and over Quiet - can come across as overly jealous. This is to say nothing of [[spoiler: the true ending, where Kaz refuses to follow the real Big Boss' plan and sounds overly spurned]].
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** While Vamp and Raiden set the bar high for homoerotic blade wounds, [[https://youtu.be/1CDFE-St68U?t=1m20s this hidden cutscene in MGSV]] where Ocelot removes a knife from Snake's chest manages to come pretty close. "Morale taken care of," indeed.
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** While Vamp and Raiden set the bar high for homoerotic blade wounds, [[https://youtu.be/1CDFE-St68U?t=1m20s this hidden cutscene in MGSV]] where Ocelot removes a knife from Snake's chest manages to come pretty close. "Morale taken care of," indeed. It certainly doesn't help that it sounds like the two of them are flirting right before Ocelot pulls the knife out.
--> '''Venom Snake''': Be gentle.\\
'''Ocelot''': Of course.
--> '''Venom Snake''': Be gentle.\\
'''Ocelot''': Of course.
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** While Vamp and Raiden set the bar high for homoerotic blade wounds, [[https://youtu.be/1CDFE-St68U?t=1m20s this hidden cutscene in MGSV]] where Ocelot removes a knife from Snake's chest manages to come pretty close. "Morale taken care of," indeed.
** In the final scene of ''The Phantom Pain'', [[spoiler:Ocelot lights the real Big Boss's cigar as he says his last goodbyes. The framing of the scene (not to mention how unnecessarily close Ocelot leans in) strongly resembles a farewell kiss. ]]
** In the final scene of ''The Phantom Pain'', [[spoiler:Ocelot lights the real Big Boss's cigar as he says his last goodbyes. The framing of the scene (not to mention how unnecessarily close Ocelot leans in) strongly resembles a farewell kiss. ]]
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* Each soldier recruited in ''Peace Walker'' has a quote from their conversations with Big Boss on their profile, one of which is this gem:
-->"You want me to forget last night...? Too late. It's all in my diary now."
-->"You want me to forget last night...? Too late. It's all in my diary now."