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* Also regarding the female Saints, their rules about wearing a mask, and having to either love or kill any man that sees their face. Sure, pretty much every real life religion is sexist towards women in some way, but one would think that a religion revolving around a ''goddess of war'' would treat women better than this.
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* This series has a character named after Thor and another named after Loki. The two aren't related in any way, and in fact Thor's the one who has a Robe based on Jörmungandr , while Loki doesn't use a Robe at all. Isn't this like having a Franchise/StarWars adaptation where Luke is the commander of the Death Star and Darth Vader is just some random guy that runs a convenience store?
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** Considering that a Saint's own body is a weapon capable of destruction of a scale human weapons could not match until WorldWarI and that some Saints ''do'' carry weapons (some even included in their own Cloths, such as Draco's PowerFist, Perseus' [[TakenForGranite petrifying shield]], and [[WalkingArmory Libra's collection of weapons), the implication is that Athena hates weapons as an unnecessary distraction, and gives a pass to the rare weapon that works anyway (such as Orphee's lyra or Jamian's crows).
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** Considering that a Saint's own body is a weapon capable of destruction of a scale human weapons could not match until WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and that some Saints ''do'' carry weapons (some even included in their own Cloths, such as Draco's PowerFist, Perseus' [[TakenForGranite petrifying shield]], and [[WalkingArmory Libra's collection of weapons), the implication is that Athena hates weapons as an unnecessary distraction, and gives a pass to the rare weapon that works anyway (such as Orphee's lyra or Jamian's crows).
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** Considering that a Saint's own body is a weapon capable of destruction of a scale human weapons could not match until WorldWarI and that some Saints ''do'' carry weapons (some even included in their own Cloths, such as Draco's PowerFist, Perseus' [[TakenForGranite petrifying shield]], and [[WalkingArmory Libra's collection of weapons), the implication is that Athena hates weapons as an unnecessary distraction, and gives a pass to the rare weapon that works anyway (such as Orphee's lyra or Jamian's crows).
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*** Amazingly enough, there could be a somewhat decent explanation related to how [[spoiler:Ophiuchus used to be a Gold Cloth]]: he started from Shaina's home, that, due the thing mentioned above, could well be ''on'' the Twelve Temples. That, or him being the apprentice of someone who [[spoiler:should have been a Gold Saint]] led to him knowing the Tewlve Temples area so well he could get around the usual troubles.
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*** Saori/Athena in LC looks a loooottt more cute/moe than his classic counterpart. Como on boys, the original always had this... stony eerie cold looking face... the only good thing about her was her boobs...
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*** Saori/Athena in LC looks a loooottt more cute/moe than his classic counterpart. Como on boys, the original always had this... stony eerie mysterious cold looking face... the only good thing about her was her boobs...
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*** This fan always found them a lot prettier then the LC girls. Pandora's classic version seems a lot more feminine and pretty then her LC equivalent. Seriously some angles just make her seem seriously manly in LC to me.
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*** This fan always found them a lot prettier then the LC girls. Pandora's classic version seems a lot more feminine and pretty then her LC equivalent. Seriously some angles just make her seem seriously manly masculine in LC to me.
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** Not so much in Lost Canvas though, the girls are much more attractive, specially Crane Yuzuriha.
*** That's an unfair comparison. For a start, a lot of fans actually like both Shaina and Marin. [[EnsembleDarkhorse You'd be surprised at how popular they are]]. The problem is that the majority of the time they are completely covered up. Which brings the main point into question. Old anime of which Saint Seiya is one just did not have the fanservice that modern animes (of which Lost Canvas is one) now have.
*** That's an unfair comparison. For a start, a lot of fans actually like both Shaina and Marin. [[EnsembleDarkhorse You'd be surprised at how popular they are]]. The problem is that the majority of the time they are completely covered up. Which brings the main point into question. Old anime of which Saint Seiya is one just did not have the fanservice that modern animes (of which Lost Canvas is one) now have.
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** Not so much in Lost Canvas though, however, the girls are much more attractive, specially Crane Yuzuriha.
*** That's anunfair wrongful comparison. For a start, a lot of fans actually like both Shaina and Marin. [[EnsembleDarkhorse You'd be surprised at how popular they are]]. The problem is that the majority of the time they are completely covered up. Which brings the main point into question. Old anime of which Saint Seiya is one just did not have the fanservice that modern animes (of which Lost Canvas is one) now have.
*** That's an
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** Perhaps since Shun and Milo got a mhhhh..."close encounter" long time before that? XD
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** Perhaps since Shun and Milo got a mhhhh... "close encounter" long time before that? XD
*** The real reason is that, accordingly to Kuramada, Sion chewed them very blaid when he meet the two in hell.
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** They weren't reborn. Supposedly the saints that fight for Athena end up in buried in the lake of ice, so presumably they "felt" that Athena/the Bronze Saints needed them and traveled from point A to point B, all within the underworld. But I don't know how they traveled between the circles.
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** They weren't reborn. Supposedly the souls of the saints that fight for Athena end up in buried in the lake of ice, so presumably they "felt" that Athena/the Bronze Saints needed them and traveled from point A to point B, all within the underworld. But I don't know how they traveled between the circles.
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*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth...don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')
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*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth... don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')
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*** There is a lot of discussion lately about Kurumada and his overuse of his WordOfGod power, saying "this is now canon and now is not anymore", and what really the fans think (and without fans, you´re dead baby). Happened with the Overture movie, the problems with the Hades animation, Lost Canvas (which generated a war between japanese fans and him), the old doujin written by Iro Sakamihara which Kurumada considered canon when he was working with Bt´x and just didn´t think about continuing SS and didn´t want to be disturbed by the fans anymore (also throw in the Gigantomachia novel), the contradictions about how really he was "pressed" to accept the canonicity and "co-writing" of Episode G, and now SS Omega as an alternative? timeline and Next Dimension been released so slowly nearly as {{Manga/Bastard}} But what can you expect from and old drunk? Maybe he had a bad hit in the head when he was an amateur boxer (and no, I´m not joking this time) And follow the trail of the money!!! Kurumada is now a greedy money bitch, he just put his signature in anything related to SS if they pay him enough...and he still works in his dark and gloomy garage after so many years...jerk (I still remember his young idealistic times when he quit Shonen Jump because they didn´t treat him well, and went to work with their competitors as a big f*ck you)
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*** There is a lot of discussion lately about Kurumada and his overuse of his WordOfGod power, saying "this is now canon and now is not anymore", and what really the fans think (and without fans, you´re dead baby). Happened with the Overture movie, the problems with the Hades animation, Lost Canvas (which generated a war between japanese fans and him), the old doujin written by Iro Sakamihara which Kurumada considered canon when he was working with Bt´x and just didn´t think about continuing SS and didn´t want to be disturbed by the fans anymore (also throw in the Gigantomachia novel), the contradictions about how really he was "pressed" to accept the canonicity and "co-writing" of Episode G, and now SS Omega as an alternative? timeline and Next Dimension been released so slowly nearly as {{Manga/Bastard}} But what can you expect from and old drunk? Maybe he had a bad hit in the head when he was an amateur boxer (and no, I´m not joking this time) And time), and follow the trail of the money!!! Kurumada is now a greedy money bitch, he just put his signature in anything related to SS if they pay him enough...enough... and he still works in his dark and gloomy garage after so many years...years... jerk (I still remember his young idealistic times when he quit Shonen Jump because they didn´t treat him well, and went to work with their competitors as a big f*ck you)
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** As for who is the strongest saint, according to stats Kurumada himself provided in character books Shion and Dohko hold first place and second place. They were the most experienced after all. Shion according to Dohko was a perfect saint, make sense as all his stats get 5 point (the highest point)but then again there is Shaka who can win against 3 gold saints at once if not for the forbidden attack, so can't be really sure who is the strongest.
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to the evidence) The debate about who is the most powerful gold saint is going to be eternal (even our grandchildren will still be arguing about it XD), but I want to comment about the character ranking list created by Kurumada: 99% of the times I showed up with that argument in a "who is the most powerful" conflict, fans answer that list, no matter it is WordOfGod, [[BrokenBase is not realistic or they simple care a sh*t about it]]. Mentioned just for made a clarification about it
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to the evidence) The debate about who is the most powerful gold saint is going to be eternal (even our grandchildren will still be arguing about it XD), but I want to comment about the character ranking list created by Kurumada: 99% of the times I showed up with that argument in a "who is the most powerful" conflict, fans answer that list, no matter it is WordOfGod, [[BrokenBase is not realistic or they simple care a sh*t about it]]. Mentioned just for made a clarification about it
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** As for who is the strongest saint, according to stats Kurumada himself provided in character books Shion and Dohko hold first place and second place. They were the most experienced after all. Shion according to Dohko was a perfect saint, make sense as all his stats get 5 point (the highest point)but point) but then again there is Shaka who can win against 3 gold saints at once if not for the forbidden attack, so can't be really sure who is the strongest.
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to theevidence) evidence). The debate about who is the most powerful gold saint is going to be eternal (even our grandchildren will still be arguing about it XD), but I want to comment about the character ranking list created by Kurumada: 99% of the times I showed up with that argument in a "who is the most powerful" conflict, fans answer that list, no matter it is WordOfGod, [[BrokenBase is not realistic or they simple care a sh*t about it]]. Mentioned just for made a clarification about itit.
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to the
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*** Shura would have been ten actually considering he is 23 by the time of the series though his physical appearance is exactly the same between the two periods while there's a huge leap in design between 7 years old and 14 years old characters. But still, this means that at 10 years old he already had his Gold Cloth...but still, let's imagine it was his very first day as a Gold Saint after just completing his Saint training...a training that already takes 7 years to complete to become a low ranked Bronze Saint. One can only imagine to become a Gold Saint the training would be longer but still let's say it's not, that would mean he started his formation at the age of 3 at best, now that's pretty hardcore, poor guy just barely learnt how to make sentences.
** The last Official info stated the youngest gold saint is 20 years old, they are Milo, Shaka, Aiolia, Aldebaran, Mu and Camus. Aphrodite(22)Deathmask(24) and Shura also 24, The oldest are Saga who is 28 yrs old and Aiolos is one year younger than Saga. YES, all gold saint started their training when they are so young! It's stated in Q&A narrated by Shion that Gold Saint in this era started their training early due to seventh sense is easier to reach by young child because they have not developed mind that swayed by the world's belief and limitation. Something like that... but it's seems in Next Dimension it's not the case, because there is saint who promoted from bronze to gold when they were 18.
** Also in Vol 13 you can clearly see in a flashback that [[spoiler: thirteen years before most of the gold saint were kids and Saga comments that's why the successor of the Pope could only be either he (15-years-old) or Aioros (14-years-old).]]
** The last Official info stated the youngest gold saint is 20 years old, they are Milo, Shaka, Aiolia, Aldebaran, Mu and Camus. Aphrodite(22)Deathmask(24) and Shura also 24, The oldest are Saga who is 28 yrs old and Aiolos is one year younger than Saga. YES, all gold saint started their training when they are so young! It's stated in Q&A narrated by Shion that Gold Saint in this era started their training early due to seventh sense is easier to reach by young child because they have not developed mind that swayed by the world's belief and limitation. Something like that... but it's seems in Next Dimension it's not the case, because there is saint who promoted from bronze to gold when they were 18.
** Also in Vol 13 you can clearly see in a flashback that [[spoiler: thirteen years before most of the gold saint were kids and Saga comments that's why the successor of the Pope could only be either he (15-years-old) or Aioros (14-years-old).]]
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*** Shura would have been ten actually considering he is 23 by the time of the series though his physical appearance is exactly the same between the two periods while there's a huge leap in design between 7 years old and 14 years old characters. But still, this means that at 10 years old he already had his Gold Cloth... but still, let's imagine it was his very first day as a Gold Saint after just completing his Saint training...training... a training that already takes 7 years to complete to become a low ranked Bronze Saint. One can only imagine to become a Gold Saint the training would be longer but still let's say it's not, that would mean he started his formation at the age of 3 at best, now that's pretty hardcore, poor guy just barely learnt how to make sentences.
** The last Official info stated the youngest gold saint is 20 years old, they are Milo, Shaka, Aiolia, Aldebaran, Mu and Camus.Aphrodite(22)Deathmask(24) Aphrodite (22)Deathmask (24) and Shura also 24, (also 24). The oldest are Saga who is 28 yrs years old and Aiolos is one year younger than Saga. YES, all gold saint Gold Saint started their training when they are so young! It's stated in Q&A narrated by Shion that Gold Saint in this era started their training early due to seventh sense is easier to reach by young child because they have not developed mind that swayed by the world's belief and limitation. Something like that... but it's seems in Next Dimension it's not the case, because there is saint who promoted from bronze to gold when they were 18.
** Also in Vol 13 you can clearly see in a flashback that [[spoiler: thirteen years before most of thegold saint Gold Saint were kids and Saga comments that's why the successor of the Pope could only be either he (15-years-old) or Aioros (14-years-old).]]
** The last Official info stated the youngest gold saint is 20 years old, they are Milo, Shaka, Aiolia, Aldebaran, Mu and Camus.
** Also in Vol 13 you can clearly see in a flashback that [[spoiler: thirteen years before most of the
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** What did you expect from a MarySue.And this is one reason some people created a fanfics where their readers can sign up their own OC. You will be surprised how popular this fanfics is...
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** Kurumada was most likely just bad at designing cloths when he first made the designs for Shaina and Marin. All the later ladies are much better covered.
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**** I consider/imagine just this situation...''"Athena, our cloths are broken, we need repairs and both Mu and Kiki are again in their long away home"''. Athena thinks for a moment, and then after checking a calendar, she says ''"OK boys, bring me your cloths next week Wednesday without fault"''. The saints look between them without understanding why is necessary such precision and date, but they agree. The day comes, they bring their cloths to Athena...after some hours without any notice, one of them enters in Athena's inner sanctuary/palace to see what is going on. Reaction: ''"WTF Athena are you doing with our cloths $%&/#"#%"''. She was just sit over one of them with her skirt covering it...
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** She didn't resurrect them, they where "almost" dead, she just heal them enough to put them out of risk (and even then they where still so weak that they couldn't even walk).
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** She didn't resurrect them, they where "almost" dead, she just heal them enough to put them out of risk (and even then they where still so weak that they couldn't even walk). walk).
***Just check the manga version, you can see in the beginning of the Poseidon ark (since there was no Asgard filler saga) the bronze saints in a near comatose state in the hospital, in fact the two first Poseidon henchmen attacks against Athena was repelled by Aioria and Aldebaran this time (finally the golden saints doing their work for once and all...)
***Just check the manga version, you can see in the beginning of the Poseidon ark (since there was no Asgard filler saga) the bronze saints in a near comatose state in the hospital, in fact the two first Poseidon henchmen attacks against Athena was repelled by Aioria and Aldebaran this time (finally the golden saints doing their work for once and all...)
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*** This is an AssPull from me but since Cassios was able to beat up a few of the main bronzies easily. Maybe he discovered the seventh sense and was able to travel through the secret paths at light speed?
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*** This is an AssPull from me but since Cassios was able to beat up a few of the main bronzies easily. Maybe he discovered the seventh sense and was able to travel through the secret paths at light speed?
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****No, no, the truth about all of this is that Cassios is actually Haruhi Su... XD
****No, no, the truth about all of this is that Cassios is actually Haruhi Su... XD
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** The Cygnus Cloth seems to be able to select which cold affects it and which one doesn't. Indeed, Camus clearly states to Hyoga that all Bronze Cloths, even the Cygnus one, breaks under -150°C yet it seems unaffected by Hyoga's own cold which can reach that temperature right at the beginning of the series(whether it comes from his Cosmos or air around it). Similarly [[spoiler: when Hyoga's attack is sent back to him by the empty Gemini Cloth, you can assume the cold from it would be at least -150°C if he really hoped to beat his enemy, however his Cygnus Cloth doesn't seem much affected by it.]] But then again, Camus is not really known for the reliability of his statements like for his [[spoiler: ice coffin.]]
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***[[spoiler: And '''WHY''' also in the fucking hell can't Camus just use his ice coffin as some sort of defensive power? (since it's seems to don't break with even the most powerful attack...except Libra's weapons, God's attacks, and the "Athena's exclamation" perhaps...) I don't know...maybe he could use it to create defensive barriers, or even to cover a part of his cloth and use it as a shield...just an idea that actually ''many'' fans asked around through the years...]]
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**Perhaps since Shun and Milo got a mhhhh..."close encounter" long time before that? XD
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*** Yeah, but does '''it''' count or not??? XDDDDD
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*** Yeah, but does '''it''' count or not??? XDDDDDXDDDDD
****I consider/imagine just this situation...''"Athena, our cloths are broken, we need repairs and both Mu and Kiki are again in their long away home"''. Athena thinks for a moment, and then after checking a calendar, she says ''"OK boys, bring me your cloths next week Wednesday without fault"''. The saints look between them without understanding why is necessary such precision and date, but they agree. The day comes, they bring their cloths to Athena...after some hours without any notice, one of them enters in Athena's inner sanctuary/palace to see what is going on. Reaction: ''"WTF Athena are you doing with our cloths $%&/#"#%"''. She was just sit over one of them with her skirt covering it...
****I consider/imagine just this situation...''"Athena, our cloths are broken, we need repairs and both Mu and Kiki are again in their long away home"''. Athena thinks for a moment, and then after checking a calendar, she says ''"OK boys, bring me your cloths next week Wednesday without fault"''. The saints look between them without understanding why is necessary such precision and date, but they agree. The day comes, they bring their cloths to Athena...after some hours without any notice, one of them enters in Athena's inner sanctuary/palace to see what is going on. Reaction: ''"WTF Athena are you doing with our cloths $%&/#"#%"''. She was just sit over one of them with her skirt covering it...
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** [[StrangledByTheRedString I really don't think that ever even crossed Kurumada's mind.]] This was before the internet, crack theories, and large forums dedicated entirely to tearing apart FridgeLogic.
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** [[StrangledByTheRedString I really don't think that ever even crossed Kurumada's mind.]] This was before the internet, crack theories, and large forums dedicated entirely to tearing apart FridgeLogic.FridgeLogic.
*** Yeah, but does '''it''' count or not??? XDDDDD
*** Yeah, but does '''it''' count or not??? XDDDDD
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''Since you need the blood from a God in your cloth to travel safely through the Hiperdimension/Chōjigen'' (unless you have Pandora´s amulet) ''and/or to get your cloth to a divine/kamei level'' (as we see with Ikki who couldn´t reach that level until he touched the amphore with Athena´s blood pouring out)''...if your armor is touched by, lets say, "other" sources of blood...like Athena´s menstruation/period'' (remember, she is an avatar, may be a goddess but she still "works" like a normal human female...and yeah, she poops too)'', will it count towards this "rule" for getting more powers?'' '''Serious''' answers please XD
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''Since you need the blood from a God in your cloth to travel safely through the Hiperdimension/Chōjigen'' (unless you have Pandora´s amulet) ''and/or to get your cloth to a divine/kamei level'' (as we see with Ikki who couldn´t reach that level until he touched the amphore with Athena´s blood pouring out)''...if your armor is touched by, lets say, "other" sources of blood...like Athena´s menstruation/period'' (remember, she is an avatar, may be a goddess but she still "works" like a normal human female...and yeah, she poops too)'', will it count towards this "rule" for getting more powers?'' '''Serious''' answers please XDXD
** [[StrangledByTheRedString I really don't think that ever even crossed Kurumada's mind.]] This was before the internet, crack theories, and large forums dedicated entirely to tearing apart FridgeLogic.
** [[StrangledByTheRedString I really don't think that ever even crossed Kurumada's mind.]] This was before the internet, crack theories, and large forums dedicated entirely to tearing apart FridgeLogic.
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*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth...don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')
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*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth...don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')spanish"'')
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*...but necessary, since Saint Seiya is a lot about blood and gore after all...
''Since you need the blood from a God in your cloth to travel safely through the Hiperdimension/Chōjigen'' (unless you have Pandora´s amulet) ''and/or to get your cloth to a divine/kamei level'' (as we see with Ikki who couldn´t reach that level until he touched the amphore with Athena´s blood pouring out)''...if your armor is touched by, lets say, "other" sources of blood...like Athena´s menstruation/period'' (remember, she is an avatar, may be a goddess but she still "works" like a normal human female...and yeah, she poops too)'', will it count towards this "rule" for getting more powers?'' '''Serious''' answers please XD
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*...but necessary, since Saint Seiya is a lot about blood and gore after all...
''Since you need the blood from a God in your cloth to travel safely through the Hiperdimension/Chōjigen'' (unless you have Pandora´s amulet) ''and/or to get your cloth to a divine/kamei level'' (as we see with Ikki who couldn´t reach that level until he touched the amphore with Athena´s blood pouring out)''...if your armor is touched by, lets say, "other" sources of blood...like Athena´s menstruation/period'' (remember, she is an avatar, may be a goddess but she still "works" like a normal human female...and yeah, she poops too)'', will it count towards this "rule" for getting more powers?'' '''Serious''' answers please XD
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**** This fan always found them a lot prettier then the LC girls. Pandora's classic version seems a lot more feminine and pretty then her LC equivalent. Seriously some angles just make her seem seriously manly in LC to me.
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**** This fan always found them a lot prettier then the LC girls. Pandora's classic version seems a lot more feminine and pretty then her LC equivalent. Seriously some angles just make her seem seriously manly in LC to me.
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**** Saori/Athena in LC looks a loooottt more cute/moe than his classic counterpart. Como on boys, the original always had this...stony eerie cold looking face...the only good thing about her was her boobs...
**** Saori/Athena in LC looks a loooottt more cute/moe than his classic counterpart. Como on boys, the original always had this...stony eerie cold looking face...the only good thing about her was her boobs...
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** I just now noticed that out of the hundreds of OCs, none of them are both a male GaryStu AND yaoi with the golds.
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** I just now noticed that out of the hundreds of OCs, [=OCs=], none of them are both a male GaryStu AND yaoi with the golds.
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**** There is a lot of discussion lately about Kurumada and his overuse of his WordOfGod power, saying "this is now canon and now is not anymore", and what really the fans think (and without fans, you´re dead baby). Happened with the Overture movie, the problems with the Hades animation, Lost Canvas (which generated a war between japanese fans and him), the old doujin written by Iro Sakamihara which Kurumada considered canon when he was working with Bt´x and just didn´t think about continuing SS and didn´t want to be disturbed by the fans anymore (also throw in the Gigantomachia novel), the contradictions about how really he was "pressed" to accept the canonicity and "co-writing" of Episode G, and now SS Omega as an alternative? timeline and Next Dimension been released so slowly nearly as {{Manga/Bastard}} But what can you expect from and old drunk? Maybe he had a bad hit in the head when he was an amateur boxer (and no, I´m not joking this time) And follow the trail of the money!!! Kurumada is now a greedy money bitch, he just put his signature in anything related to SS if they pay him enough...and he still works in his dark and gloomy garage after so many years...jerk (I still remember his young idealistic times when he quit Shonen Jump because they didn´t treat him well, and went to work with their competitors as a big f*ck you)
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** As for who is the strongest saint, according to stats Kurumada himself provided in character books Shion and Dohko hold first place and second place. They were the most experienced after all. Shion according to Dohko was a perfect saint, make sense as all his stats get 5 point (the highest point)but then again there is Shaka who can win against 3 gold saints at once if not for the forbidden attack, so can't be really sure who is the strongest.
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** As for who is the strongest saint, according to stats Kurumada himself provided in character books Shion and Dohko hold first place and second place. They were the most experienced after all. Shion according to Dohko was a perfect saint, make sense as all his stats get 5 point (the highest point)but then again there is Shaka who can win against 3 gold saints at once if not for the forbidden attack, so can't be really sure who is the strongest. strongest.
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to the evidence) The debate about who is the most powerful gold saint is going to be eternal (even our grandchildren will still be arguing about it XD), but I want to comment about the character ranking list created by Kurumada: 99% of the times I showed up with that argument in a "who is the most powerful" conflict, fans answer that list, no matter it is WordOfGod, [[BrokenBase is not realistic or they simple care a sh*t about it]]. Mentioned just for made a clarification about it
*** Yeah, personally I also agree with the Shaka dilemma, I think he is the stronger golden saint (and not because I like him, in fact I´m more a Kanon fan, but I surrender to the evidence) The debate about who is the most powerful gold saint is going to be eternal (even our grandchildren will still be arguing about it XD), but I want to comment about the character ranking list created by Kurumada: 99% of the times I showed up with that argument in a "who is the most powerful" conflict, fans answer that list, no matter it is WordOfGod, [[BrokenBase is not realistic or they simple care a sh*t about it]]. Mentioned just for made a clarification about it
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** Ares was also Saga. It could be his good side persuading him to not go for world domination much like how Saga's good side stopped his evil side from attacking Shun further and allowing him to pass the House of Gemini.
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** Ares was also Saga. It could be his good side persuading him to not go for world domination much like how Saga's good side stopped his evil side from attacking Shun further and allowing him to pass the House of Gemini.Gemini.
*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth...don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')
*** Actually, he started his world domination plan before even going after the last missing cloth...don´t you remember one of the first episodes in the anime, when there was many "terrorist" events around the world, which actually was cover-up attacks made by his henchmen? I will refresh your memory: a group of guys in unidentified armor (presumable just elite soldiers) jumping from an oil carrier exploding after they set explosives onto it, at the rhythm of "long live to the master of evil!!!" (I remember this from the Latin American and Brazilian dubs, don´t know if they said the same in the original and other versions, anyway, it´s was '''HILARIOUS''') (''"Larga vida al maestro del malllll!!!, para los que saben leer en español/for those who can read spanish"'')
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* Ares' plan makes no freaking sense. He says he won't start his world domination campaign before having "The Golden Cloth"... dude, you have 11 of those! At your command!
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* Ares' plan makes no freaking sense. He says he won't start his world domination campaign before having "The Golden Cloth"... dude, you have 11 of those! At your command!command!
** Ares was also Saga. It could be his good side persuading him to not go for world domination much like how Saga's good side stopped his evil side from attacking Shun further and allowing him to pass the House of Gemini.
** Ares was also Saga. It could be his good side persuading him to not go for world domination much like how Saga's good side stopped his evil side from attacking Shun further and allowing him to pass the House of Gemini.
