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** For your beastkin aging question regarding Valkenhayn and Makoto (and I'll thrown in Jubei), you have to remember that there are different kinds of beastkin. Valkenhayn is a lycanthrope created by sorcery, Jubei is a type of cat beastkin that has existed long before the Dark War while Makoto is a half-beastkin, a type that, like the Kaka, was artificially created as an attempt to stop the Black Beast. Valkenhayn and Jubei's type (and by extension his daughter Kokonoe who had to have been born not longer after the Dark War) do have longer lifespans than humans but that doesn't necessarily apply to Makoto. Celica's slow aging is explicitly attributed to her healing magic, which keeps her looking young (only being middle-aged at the oldest) and presumably would give her a longer lifespan than normal (you know, provided Terumi didn't kill her). Additionally, Ragna and Jin are definitely not in their thirties. Terumi attacked the church in 2192, only eight years before the events of Calamity Trigger (while it is technically in 2199, it takes place on December 31). They were kids at the time and Jin went to high school in the meantime, putting Jin likely somewhere around 20-22 and Ragna somewhere like 2-3 years older than that. Ages in BlazBlue are VERY vague in general. The only character with a concrete number is Noel (5 years old). Therefore we don't know how old the Dark War characters are besides 100+.
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** For your beastkin aging question regarding Valkenhayn and Makoto (and I'll thrown in Jubei), you have to remember that there are different kinds of beastkin. Valkenhayn is a lycanthrope created by sorcery, Jubei is a type of cat beastkin that has existed long before the Dark War while Makoto is a half-beastkin, a type that, like the Kaka, was artificially created as an attempt to stop the Black Beast. Valkenhayn and Jubei's type (and by extension his daughter Kokonoe who had to have been born not longer after the Dark War) do have longer lifespans than humans but that doesn't necessarily apply to Makoto. Celica's slow aging is explicitly attributed to her healing magic, which keeps her looking young (only being middle-aged at the oldest) and presumably would give her a longer lifespan than normal (you know, provided Terumi didn't kill her). Additionally, Ragna and Jin are definitely not in their thirties. Terumi attacked the church in 2192, only eight years before the events of Calamity Trigger (while it is technically in 2199, it takes place on December 31). They were kids at the time and Jin went to high school in the meantime, putting Jin likely somewhere around 20-22 and Ragna somewhere like 2-3 years older than that. Ages in BlazBlue are VERY vague in general. The only character with a concrete number is Noel (5 years old). Therefore we don't know how old the Dark War characters are besides 100+. Also, I don't know where you're getting that Saya is still a child. When possessed by Izanami she clearly looks older than she was in flashbacks, physically being not that different from Noel.
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* A lot of characters from the Dark War show up despite the 100 year time gap. Terumi [[spoiler: and Trinity]] are spirits, so it makes sense they don't age, and Hakumen, [[spoiler: Nine and Relius]] all came via the Boundary where time doesn't really flow. But what about the others, who apparently got between time periods [[TheSlowPath by waiting]]? Valkenhayn is clearly old now, but a hundred years plus whatever he was at the time? It's possible beastkin age slower (given that he isn't an 'actual' werewolf), but does that mean Makoto also ages slower? Jubei doesn't even have that excuse - he's just a grizzled adult, even with all this time. Most {{egregious}}ly, [[spoiler: Celica. If Ragna and Jin are, at a guess, in their thirties during the story, that means there were seventy years between the war and her taking them in as children (ignoring that Saya is still a child - that could be to do with Izanami, I don't know). She's evidently a young teen during the war, so when she takes the children in as an adult she's eighty? She looks half that in flashback scenes!]] In short - just how old are the people who took TheSlowPath supposed to be?
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* A lot of characters from the Dark War show up despite the 100 year time gap. Terumi [[spoiler: and Trinity]] are spirits, so it makes sense they don't age, and Hakumen, [[spoiler: Nine and Relius]] all came via the Boundary where time doesn't really flow. But what about the others, who apparently got between time periods [[TheSlowPath by waiting]]? Valkenhayn is clearly old now, but a hundred years plus whatever he was at the time? It's possible beastkin age slower (given that he isn't an 'actual' werewolf), but does that mean Makoto also ages slower? Jubei doesn't even have that excuse - he's just a grizzled adult, even with all this time. Most {{egregious}}ly, [[spoiler: Celica. If Ragna and Jin are, at a guess, in their thirties during the story, that means there were seventy years between the war and her taking them in as children (ignoring that Saya is still a child - that could be to do with Izanami, I don't know). She's evidently a young teen during the war, so when she takes the children in as an adult she's eighty? She looks half that in flashback scenes!]] In short - just how old are the people who took TheSlowPath supposed to be?be?
** For your beastkin aging question regarding Valkenhayn and Makoto (and I'll thrown in Jubei), you have to remember that there are different kinds of beastkin. Valkenhayn is a lycanthrope created by sorcery, Jubei is a type of cat beastkin that has existed long before the Dark War while Makoto is a half-beastkin, a type that, like the Kaka, was artificially created as an attempt to stop the Black Beast. Valkenhayn and Jubei's type (and by extension his daughter Kokonoe who had to have been born not longer after the Dark War) do have longer lifespans than humans but that doesn't necessarily apply to Makoto. Celica's slow aging is explicitly attributed to her healing magic, which keeps her looking young (only being middle-aged at the oldest) and presumably would give her a longer lifespan than normal (you know, provided Terumi didn't kill her). Additionally, Ragna and Jin are definitely not in their thirties. Terumi attacked the church in 2192, only eight years before the events of Calamity Trigger (while it is technically in 2199, it takes place on December 31). They were kids at the time and Jin went to high school in the meantime, putting Jin likely somewhere around 20-22 and Ragna somewhere like 2-3 years older than that. Ages in BlazBlue are VERY vague in general. The only character with a concrete number is Noel (5 years old). Therefore we don't know how old the Dark War characters are besides 100+.
** For your beastkin aging question regarding Valkenhayn and Makoto (and I'll thrown in Jubei), you have to remember that there are different kinds of beastkin. Valkenhayn is a lycanthrope created by sorcery, Jubei is a type of cat beastkin that has existed long before the Dark War while Makoto is a half-beastkin, a type that, like the Kaka, was artificially created as an attempt to stop the Black Beast. Valkenhayn and Jubei's type (and by extension his daughter Kokonoe who had to have been born not longer after the Dark War) do have longer lifespans than humans but that doesn't necessarily apply to Makoto. Celica's slow aging is explicitly attributed to her healing magic, which keeps her looking young (only being middle-aged at the oldest) and presumably would give her a longer lifespan than normal (you know, provided Terumi didn't kill her). Additionally, Ragna and Jin are definitely not in their thirties. Terumi attacked the church in 2192, only eight years before the events of Calamity Trigger (while it is technically in 2199, it takes place on December 31). They were kids at the time and Jin went to high school in the meantime, putting Jin likely somewhere around 20-22 and Ragna somewhere like 2-3 years older than that. Ages in BlazBlue are VERY vague in general. The only character with a concrete number is Noel (5 years old). Therefore we don't know how old the Dark War characters are besides 100+.
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** As far as I can tell, Relius does not remember each time loop. He isn't an Onlooker like Rachel or a special being like Terumi so their is no reason to assume he can remember. However, inside the loops he is definitely aware they are happening since he is aware of the Master Unit and its Interventions. I doubt Terumi (and it's important to note that everyone being talked about is in regards to Terumi, not Hazama) needs to explain it since Relius is smart enough to figure it out on his own. Terumi doesn't need to become friends with Relius each time because they knew each other before the time loops start. They were the ones (alongside Shuichiro Ayatsuki) who were performing the experiment to smelt a Kusanagi that released the Black Beast in the first place. Since they knew each other before January 1st 2100 (the start of the time loop), they will always know each other. As for missing each other, that is impossible because as we see in Relius's Continuum Shift story, Terumi knows exactly where Relius will pop out of the Cauldron that the Black Beast knocked him into so Terumi can easily meet with him.
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** As far as I can tell, Relius does not remember each time loop. He isn't an Onlooker like Rachel or a special being like Terumi so their is no reason to assume he can remember. However, inside the loops he is definitely aware they are happening since he is aware of the Master Unit and its Interventions. I doubt Terumi (and it's important to note that everyone being talked about is in regards to Terumi, not Hazama) needs to explain it since Relius is smart enough to figure it out on his own. Terumi doesn't need to become friends with Relius each time because they knew each other before the time loops start. They were the ones (alongside Shuichiro Ayatsuki) who were performing the experiment to smelt a Kusanagi that released the Black Beast in the first place. Since they knew each other before January 1st 2100 (the start of the time loop), they will always know each other. As for missing each other, that is impossible because as we see in Relius's Continuum Shift story, Terumi knows exactly where Relius will pop out of the Cauldron that the Black Beast knocked him into so Terumi can easily meet with him.him.
* A lot of characters from the Dark War show up despite the 100 year time gap. Terumi [[spoiler: and Trinity]] are spirits, so it makes sense they don't age, and Hakumen, [[spoiler: Nine and Relius]] all came via the Boundary where time doesn't really flow. But what about the others, who apparently got between time periods [[TheSlowPath by waiting]]? Valkenhayn is clearly old now, but a hundred years plus whatever he was at the time? It's possible beastkin age slower (given that he isn't an 'actual' werewolf), but does that mean Makoto also ages slower? Jubei doesn't even have that excuse - he's just a grizzled adult, even with all this time. Most {{egregious}}ly, [[spoiler: Celica. If Ragna and Jin are, at a guess, in their thirties during the story, that means there were seventy years between the war and her taking them in as children (ignoring that Saya is still a child - that could be to do with Izanami, I don't know). She's evidently a young teen during the war, so when she takes the children in as an adult she's eighty? She looks half that in flashback scenes!]] In short - just how old are the people who took TheSlowPath supposed to be?
* A lot of characters from the Dark War show up despite the 100 year time gap. Terumi [[spoiler: and Trinity]] are spirits, so it makes sense they don't age, and Hakumen, [[spoiler: Nine and Relius]] all came via the Boundary where time doesn't really flow. But what about the others, who apparently got between time periods [[TheSlowPath by waiting]]? Valkenhayn is clearly old now, but a hundred years plus whatever he was at the time? It's possible beastkin age slower (given that he isn't an 'actual' werewolf), but does that mean Makoto also ages slower? Jubei doesn't even have that excuse - he's just a grizzled adult, even with all this time. Most {{egregious}}ly, [[spoiler: Celica. If Ragna and Jin are, at a guess, in their thirties during the story, that means there were seventy years between the war and her taking them in as children (ignoring that Saya is still a child - that could be to do with Izanami, I don't know). She's evidently a young teen during the war, so when she takes the children in as an adult she's eighty? She looks half that in flashback scenes!]] In short - just how old are the people who took TheSlowPath supposed to be?
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* I get that Hazama is aware of time loops repeating themselves, but is Relius? His CS Arcade mode makes it clear he knows about them, but can he feel them? StableTimeLoop ensures that they become friends each time, I can get that, but does Hazama have to explain the nature of the time loops to him every time? Come to think of it, how stable is the time loop? Does Hazama have to put effort into finding Relius each time, because that implies there would be some loops when they miss each other.
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** Don't forget that Terumi, Relius and Izanami are basically in control of the NOL. Jin and Noel having those weapons is within the scope of their plans so they can easily make it so that no one questions their use with a simple order from the Imperator.
* I get that Hazama is aware of time loops repeating themselves, but is Relius? His CS Arcade mode makes it clear he knows about them, but can he feel them? StableTimeLoop ensures that they become friends each time, I can get that, but does Hazama have to explain the nature of the time loops to him every time? Come to think of it, how stable is the time loop? Does Hazama have to put effort into finding Relius each time, because that implies there would be some loops when they miss eachother.other.
** As far as I can tell, Relius does not remember each time loop. He isn't an Onlooker like Rachel or a special being like Terumi so their is no reason to assume he can remember. However, inside the loops he is definitely aware they are happening since he is aware of the Master Unit and its Interventions. I doubt Terumi (and it's important to note that everyone being talked about is in regards to Terumi, not Hazama) needs to explain it since Relius is smart enough to figure it out on his own. Terumi doesn't need to become friends with Relius each time because they knew each other before the time loops start. They were the ones (alongside Shuichiro Ayatsuki) who were performing the experiment to smelt a Kusanagi that released the Black Beast in the first place. Since they knew each other before January 1st 2100 (the start of the time loop), they will always know each other. As for missing each other, that is impossible because as we see in Relius's Continuum Shift story, Terumi knows exactly where Relius will pop out of the Cauldron that the Black Beast knocked him into so Terumi can easily meet with him.
* I get that Hazama is aware of time loops repeating themselves, but is Relius? His CS Arcade mode makes it clear he knows about them, but can he feel them? StableTimeLoop ensures that they become friends each time, I can get that, but does Hazama have to explain the nature of the time loops to him every time? Come to think of it, how stable is the time loop? Does Hazama have to put effort into finding Relius each time, because that implies there would be some loops when they miss each
** As far as I can tell, Relius does not remember each time loop. He isn't an Onlooker like Rachel or a special being like Terumi so their is no reason to assume he can remember. However, inside the loops he is definitely aware they are happening since he is aware of the Master Unit and its Interventions. I doubt Terumi (and it's important to note that everyone being talked about is in regards to Terumi, not Hazama) needs to explain it since Relius is smart enough to figure it out on his own. Terumi doesn't need to become friends with Relius each time because they knew each other before the time loops start. They were the ones (alongside Shuichiro Ayatsuki) who were performing the experiment to smelt a Kusanagi that released the Black Beast in the first place. Since they knew each other before January 1st 2100 (the start of the time loop), they will always know each other. As for missing each other, that is impossible because as we see in Relius's Continuum Shift story, Terumi knows exactly where Relius will pop out of the Cauldron that the Black Beast knocked him into so Terumi can easily meet with him.
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*** Come to think of it, are they even aware that Relius is away from his research post? Or is he citing it as 'field work' when he actually means 'trying to find a MagicNuke'? Then again, the Imperator hardly disapproves of what he's working on in the field...
** It's worth noting that Hazama does the 'Knights of the Blue Flame' creed when he fights against Tsubaki in Chronophantasma.
** It's worth noting that Hazama does the 'Knights of the Blue Flame' creed when he fights against Tsubaki in Chronophantasma.
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* Why doesn't Nightmare Fiction play for Ragna vs Terumi matches? In Central Fiction, Hazama and Terumi no longer share a body, yet it still doesn't play. It only plays for Ragna vs Hazama, and at that point, Ragna basically doesn't give a shit about Hazama.
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* Why doesn't Nightmare Fiction play for Ragna vs Terumi matches? In Central Fiction, Hazama and Terumi no longer share a body, yet it still doesn't play. It only plays for Ragna vs Hazama, and at that point, Ragna basically doesn't give a shit about Hazama.Hazama.
* Why is the NOL so blasé about people on their payroll wielding Nox Nyctores weapons, given that they're extremely identifiable and very important in the setting? Noel isn't even important to the NOL when she's first seen with hers. What makes Jin and Noel sufficiently important that they can carry these ancient superweapons around instead of carrying normal arms like Tsubaki's?
* I get that Hazama is aware of time loops repeating themselves, but is Relius? His CS Arcade mode makes it clear he knows about them, but can he feel them? StableTimeLoop ensures that they become friends each time, I can get that, but does Hazama have to explain the nature of the time loops to him every time? Come to think of it, how stable is the time loop? Does Hazama have to put effort into finding Relius each time, because that implies there would be some loops when they miss each other.
* Why is the NOL so blasé about people on their payroll wielding Nox Nyctores weapons, given that they're extremely identifiable and very important in the setting? Noel isn't even important to the NOL when she's first seen with hers. What makes Jin and Noel sufficiently important that they can carry these ancient superweapons around instead of carrying normal arms like Tsubaki's?
* I get that Hazama is aware of time loops repeating themselves, but is Relius? His CS Arcade mode makes it clear he knows about them, but can he feel them? StableTimeLoop ensures that they become friends each time, I can get that, but does Hazama have to explain the nature of the time loops to him every time? Come to think of it, how stable is the time loop? Does Hazama have to put effort into finding Relius each time, because that implies there would be some loops when they miss each other.
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** Ragna ''isn't'' the cause of the time loop, nor is he the reason why the Black Beast exists in the past. The Black Beast was created once by Hazama in the past as his first attempt to create Kusanagi. The Black Beast can be created a ''second'' time in the VideoGame/BlazBlue story when the two halves of the fake Azure Grimoire (held by Ragna and v-13) fuse and activate. The source of the time distortion is v-13: only when she is destroyed does the time loop finally shatter.
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** Ragna ''isn't'' the cause of the time loop, nor is he the reason why the Black Beast exists in the past. The Black Beast was created once by Hazama in the past as his first attempt to create Kusanagi. The Black Beast can be created a ''second'' time in the VideoGame/BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' story when the two halves of the fake Azure Grimoire (held by Ragna and v-13) fuse and activate. The source of the time distortion is v-13: only when she is destroyed does the time loop finally shatter.
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** Takamagahara is, insofar as I understand it, a sentient computer system that's meant to moderate the world or history or some such. By the start of CS, it would seem they had decided that [[AIIsACrapshoot humanity screwed everything up and should be destroyed along with everything else.]] Or to just stop the freaky time loops that were apparently in the care of Master Unit Amaterasu. Not entirely clear. Anyway, they let Terumi out to do his thing. That's my understanding of it. A lot of the bits with Takamagahara involved the nature of reality and causality in the VideoGame/BlazBlue universe, so it got fairly confusing on its own.
** The only things we know are that they are a system made by mankind, they monitor the timelines, they're trying to make the world "correct" and are attempting to reach the Azure for that purpose. They released Terumi to carry out the "Destruction protocol" to get the Master Unit out of the way. They pretty much explicitly say they don't want to kill everything like Terumi does when Rachel suggests they want to reduce the world to nothingness. More information about them will be revealed in the VideoGame/BlazBlue: Phase 0 light novel.
** The only things we know are that they are a system made by mankind, they monitor the timelines, they're trying to make the world "correct" and are attempting to reach the Azure for that purpose. They released Terumi to carry out the "Destruction protocol" to get the Master Unit out of the way. They pretty much explicitly say they don't want to kill everything like Terumi does when Rachel suggests they want to reduce the world to nothingness. More information about them will be revealed in the VideoGame/BlazBlue: Phase 0 light novel.
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** Takamagahara is, insofar as I understand it, a sentient computer system that's meant to moderate the world or history or some such. By the start of CS, it would seem they had decided that [[AIIsACrapshoot humanity screwed everything up and should be destroyed along with everything else.]] Or to just stop the freaky time loops that were apparently in the care of Master Unit Amaterasu. Not entirely clear. Anyway, they let Terumi out to do his thing. That's my understanding of it. A lot of the bits with Takamagahara involved the nature of reality and causality in the VideoGame/BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' universe, so it got fairly confusing on its own.
** The only things we know are that they are a system made by mankind, they monitor the timelines, they're trying to make the world "correct" and are attempting to reach the Azure for that purpose. They released Terumi to carry out the "Destruction protocol" to get the Master Unit out of the way. They pretty much explicitly say they don't want to kill everything like Terumi does when Rachel suggests they want to reduce the world to nothingness. More information about them will be revealed in theVideoGame/BlazBlue: ''[[LightNovel/BlazBluePhaseShift BlazBlue: Phase 0 0]]'' light novel.
** The only things we know are that they are a system made by mankind, they monitor the timelines, they're trying to make the world "correct" and are attempting to reach the Azure for that purpose. They released Terumi to carry out the "Destruction protocol" to get the Master Unit out of the way. They pretty much explicitly say they don't want to kill everything like Terumi does when Rachel suggests they want to reduce the world to nothingness. More information about them will be revealed in the
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** Need I remind you that the NOL is not inherently evil? Yes, they're controversial, and yes, their leaders are questionable at best, but they're essentially a government slash military slash police force slash university. To call them inherently evil is WAY overgeneralizing. Going with the NOL does not make her evil -- she's doing it to try and save somebody she loves, and while this will probably put her on the evil side of some fights in VideoGame/BlazBlue 3, it doesn't change her whole character alignment.
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** Need I remind you that the NOL is not inherently evil? Yes, they're controversial, and yes, their leaders are questionable at best, but they're essentially a government slash military slash police force slash university. To call them inherently evil is WAY overgeneralizing. Going with the NOL does not make her evil -- she's doing it to try and save somebody she loves, and while this will probably put her on the evil side of some fights in VideoGame/BlazBlue 3, ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronoPhantasma'', it doesn't change her whole character alignment.
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** The thing is, VideoGame/BlazBlue fandom has a tendency to exaggerate lots of things, NOL's 'Empire'-ness is one of them (last time, Jin's {{Jerkass}}ery was dialled UpToEleven despite some soft spots of his in the past). And it has overarched in Wiki/TVTropes, it was painful to read. I may even make some Analysis that bust out these myths. Playability does not really count. Kokonoe and Jubei enjoy MASSIVE popularity even when they're not playable. I think people try to defend Kokonoe more than, say, Litchi, because at least she's a good guy fighting the villain rather than someone who supports the villain despite not really agreeing to his principals. This 'Empire-ness' of NOL has caused the definition of HeelFaceTurn and FaceHeelTurn to be twisted, especially the latter. Did Litchi REALLY do a FaceHeelTurn solely for joining NOL, even if her principal of saving people hasn't changed? Did Tsubaki sticking with NOL counts as a FaceHeelTurn, despite, you know, being raised from age zero to serve NOL, and some MindRape? They really haven't crossed the MoralEventHorizon or admited that EvilFeelsGood, so why are they {{Heel}}s for being with NOL? This gets so silly that it's as if the motto of VideoGame/BlazBlue alignment is: "Are you with NOL/Hazama/Relius? If yes, then you're a {{Heel}}. Boo!"
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** The thing is, VideoGame/BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' fandom has a tendency to exaggerate lots of things, NOL's 'Empire'-ness is one of them (last time, Jin's {{Jerkass}}ery was dialled UpToEleven despite some soft spots of his in the past). And it has overarched in Wiki/TVTropes, it was painful to read. I may even make some Analysis that bust out these myths. Playability does not really count. Kokonoe and Jubei enjoy MASSIVE popularity even when they're not playable. I think people try to defend Kokonoe more than, say, Litchi, because at least she's a good guy fighting the villain rather than someone who supports the villain despite not really agreeing to his principals. This 'Empire-ness' of NOL has caused the definition of HeelFaceTurn and FaceHeelTurn to be twisted, especially the latter. Did Litchi REALLY do a FaceHeelTurn solely for joining NOL, even if her principal of saving people hasn't changed? Did Tsubaki sticking with NOL counts as a FaceHeelTurn, despite, you know, being raised from age zero to serve NOL, and some MindRape? They really haven't crossed the MoralEventHorizon or admited that EvilFeelsGood, so why are they {{Heel}}s for being with NOL? This gets so silly that it's as if the motto of VideoGame/BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' alignment is: "Are you with NOL/Hazama/Relius? If yes, then you're a {{Heel}}. Boo!"
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** There's never been a case that showed that NOL directly triggered Ikaruga to 'rebel', it's more like Ikaruga was unsatisfied with how NOL runs things and started a rebellion on their own rather than being incited by NOL. PunchClockVillain? Well, let's look at how Ragna usually raided NOL branches before CT: Everyone is killed, no exceptions. Even if that person was a defenseless woman, or just a man getting his paycheck, no mercy. Also let's consider who voiced their protests on NOL thus far: mostly Sector Seven, who DID oppose them in a way. Everyone was pretty much fine, if a bit annoyed, with their elitist attitude. As far as hyperbolizing, I do not think that was because of the trolling, but more like overexcited fans who like hyperboles and it seems to be in the blood of Wiki/TVTropes, thereby making VideoGame/BlazBlue fans look... well...foppish?
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** There's never been a case that showed that NOL directly triggered Ikaruga to 'rebel', it's more like Ikaruga was unsatisfied with how NOL runs things and started a rebellion on their own rather than being incited by NOL. PunchClockVillain? Well, let's look at how Ragna usually raided NOL branches before CT: Everyone is killed, no exceptions. Even if that person was a defenseless woman, or just a man getting his paycheck, no mercy. Also let's consider who voiced their protests on NOL thus far: mostly Sector Seven, who DID oppose them in a way. Everyone was pretty much fine, if a bit annoyed, with their elitist attitude. As far as hyperbolizing, I do not think that was because of the trolling, but more like overexcited fans who like hyperboles and it seems to be in the blood of Wiki/TVTropes, thereby making VideoGame/BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' fans look... well...foppish?
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** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.
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** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue ''[=BlazBlue=]'' The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue ''[=BlazBlue=]'' The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.
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*** In order to make her a proper vessel for Izanami, Hazama and Relius brutally tortured Saya to destroy her mind. Somehow this caused her soul to split in two and while one of the pieces remained with Saya, the other ended up with Noel. I don't remember if it's elaborated on exactly how or why it went to Noel but that's what happened.
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*** However, there's one more problem. First of all, why does Noel have part of Saya's soul? How come it isn't all in her original body?
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*** So what you're saying is that Noel has both part of the Origin's soul and part of Saya's soul inside her, whereas the other part of Saya's soul is in her original body, which is possessed by Izanami, the Drive of the origin, whereas the other Prime Fields were created with parts of the Origin's soul?
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*** I'm not sure what you're still confused about. I've explained everything there is. The Origin is the original Prime Field inside the Master Unit. Izanami was The Origin's Drive and contained half of Saya's soul. All Prime Field Devices contain a piece of the Origin's soul. Noel in particular is The Origin's "other self," not just the Prime Field with the biggest piece of her soul. Noel also had the other half of Saya's soul. Saya is the daughter of No. 5 but not a Prime Field herself so she didn't have a piece of The Origin's soul. During ''Central Fiction'' Noel absorbs Izanami into herself thus making Noel have Saya's complete soul inside of her. At this point Noel's soul is a giant mess of Noel, Mu, Saya, Izanami and The Origin but per Kokomo's advice she just views herself as "Noel Vermillion." That's pretty much all of it. I don't know what else to tell you if you're still confused.
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*** I'm not sure what you're still confused about. I've explained everything there is. The Origin is the original Prime Field inside the Master Unit. Izanami was The Origin's Drive and contained half of Saya's soul. All Prime Field Devices contain a piece of the Origin's soul. Noel in particular is The Origin's "other self," not just the Prime Field with the biggest piece of her soul. Noel also had the other half of Saya's soul. Saya is the daughter of No. 5 but not a Prime Field herself so she didn't have a piece of The Origin's soul. During ''Central Fiction'' Noel absorbs Izanami into herself thus making Noel have Saya's complete soul inside of her. At this point Noel's soul is a giant mess of Noel, Mu, Saya, Izanami and The Origin but per Kokomo's Kokonoe's advice she just views herself as "Noel Vermillion." That's pretty much all of it. I don't know what else to tell you if you're still confused.
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*** I'm not sure what you're still confused about. I've explained everything there is. The Origin is the original Prime Field inside the Master Unit. Izanami was The Origin's Drive and contained half of Saya's soul. All Prime Field Devices contain a piece of the Origin's soul. Noel in particular is The Origin's "other self," not just the Prime Field with the biggest piece of her soul. Noel also had the other half of Saya's soul. Saya is the daughter of No. 5 but not a Prime Field herself so she didn't have a piece of The Origin's soul. During ''Central Fiction'' Noel absorbs Izanami into herself thus making Noel have Saya's complete soul inside of her. At this point Noel's soul is a giant mess of Noel, Mu, Saya, Izanami and The Origin but per Kokomo's advice she just views herself as "Noel Vermillion." That's pretty much all of it. I don't know what else to tell you if you're still confused.
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**** Alright, so Prime Fields were created with parts of the Origin's soul, with Mu having the largest portion. However, I have also read that Mu has part of Saya's soul. What is the complete and total relationship between Saya, Noel, Izanami, the Prime Fields, and the Origin?
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** There is no given answer for the two Ouroboroses. The best we can gather is that Terumi is somehow able to make his own replica, presumably out of the same green energy he manipulates (notably, unlike with Hazama, I don't think we ever see Terumi use Ouroboros without it being surrounded by that energy). This is also seen in Phase Shift 1 when he had Ouroboros the minute he fused with Kazuma despite not getting it from Nine until Phase Shift 4. When Terumi gets it he from Nine mentions it being "true" Ouroboros, which suggests he wasn't using the real thing in Phase Shift 1. Basically I believe Hazama has the real one and Terumi just makes his own replica. As for Terumi being a ghost, when Trinity forcibly materialized him in ''CP'' she manifested his spirit as a physical body. He is no longer a true "ghost" anymore (which is why we never see the black and green blob form post-''CS'').
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** There is no given answer for the two Ouroboroses. The best we can gather is that Terumi is somehow able to make his own replica, presumably out of the same green energy he manipulates (notably, unlike with Hazama, I don't think we ever see Terumi use Ouroboros without it being surrounded by that energy). This is also seen in Phase Shift 1 when he had Ouroboros the minute he fused with Kazuma despite not getting it from Nine until Phase Shift 4. When Terumi gets it he from Nine mentions it being "true" Ouroboros, which suggests he wasn't using the real thing in Phase Shift 1. Basically I believe Hazama has the real one and Terumi just makes his own replica. As for Terumi being a ghost, when Trinity forcibly materialized him in ''CP'' she manifested his spirit as a physical body. He is no longer a true "ghost" anymore (which is why we never see the black and green blob form post-''CS'').post-''CS'').
* Why doesn't Nightmare Fiction play for Ragna vs Terumi matches? In Central Fiction, Hazama and Terumi no longer share a body, yet it still doesn't play. It only plays for Ragna vs Hazama, and at that point, Ragna basically doesn't give a shit about Hazama.
* Why doesn't Nightmare Fiction play for Ragna vs Terumi matches? In Central Fiction, Hazama and Terumi no longer share a body, yet it still doesn't play. It only plays for Ragna vs Hazama, and at that point, Ragna basically doesn't give a shit about Hazama.
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** Yes, but doesn't Noel have part of Saya's soul and Izanami has the other? What relation does Saya have to the origin
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** Yes, but doesn't Noel have part of Saya's soul and Izanami has the other? What relation does Saya have to the originorigin?
*** Saya and the Origin don't have any direct connection to each other, it is the clones based off of Saya that are connected to the Origin. Noel still has her own soul, it just included pieces of Saya's and The Origin's inside it.
*** Saya and the Origin don't have any direct connection to each other, it is the clones based off of Saya that are connected to the Origin. Noel still has her own soul, it just included pieces of Saya's and The Origin's inside it.
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** Yes, but doesn't Noel have part of Saya's soul and Izanami has the other? What relation does Saya have to the origin
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* How can Terumi manifest Ouroboros? Terumi is a ghost, and Hazama was last seen actually using it. It made sense with the Murakumo units, as each one had another Murakumo (sword) forged for themselves, but this is never shown with Terumi, when he leaves Hazama's body there is no indication that he had Ouroboros with him. And secondly, if ghost's are intangible, how can Terumi be hurt by other characters?
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** All of the Prime Fields are clones of the First Contact Unit (A.K.A. The Origin). They all have pieces of her soul inside of them. Noel Vermillion is special because she is literally the "other self" of The Origin, essentially a physical manifestation of her. It isn't explained in great detail but that is why the two fuse together.
* How can Terumi manifest Ouroboros? Terumi is a ghost, and Hazama was last seen actually using it. It made sense with the Murakumo units, as each one had another Murakumo (sword) forged for themselves, but this is never shown with Terumi, when he leaves Hazama's body there is no indication that he had Ouroboros with him. And secondly, if ghost's are intangible, how can Terumi be hurt by othercharacters?characters?
** There is no given answer for the two Ouroboroses. The best we can gather is that Terumi is somehow able to make his own replica, presumably out of the same green energy he manipulates (notably, unlike with Hazama, I don't think we ever see Terumi use Ouroboros without it being surrounded by that energy). This is also seen in Phase Shift 1 when he had Ouroboros the minute he fused with Kazuma despite not getting it from Nine until Phase Shift 4. When Terumi gets it he from Nine mentions it being "true" Ouroboros, which suggests he wasn't using the real thing in Phase Shift 1. Basically I believe Hazama has the real one and Terumi just makes his own replica. As for Terumi being a ghost, when Trinity forcibly materialized him in ''CP'' she manifested his spirit as a physical body. He is no longer a true "ghost" anymore (which is why we never see the black and green blob form post-''CS'').
* How can Terumi manifest Ouroboros? Terumi is a ghost, and Hazama was last seen actually using it. It made sense with the Murakumo units, as each one had another Murakumo (sword) forged for themselves, but this is never shown with Terumi, when he leaves Hazama's body there is no indication that he had Ouroboros with him. And secondly, if ghost's are intangible, how can Terumi be hurt by other
** There is no given answer for the two Ouroboroses. The best we can gather is that Terumi is somehow able to make his own replica, presumably out of the same green energy he manipulates (notably, unlike with Hazama, I don't think we ever see Terumi use Ouroboros without it being surrounded by that energy). This is also seen in Phase Shift 1 when he had Ouroboros the minute he fused with Kazuma despite not getting it from Nine until Phase Shift 4. When Terumi gets it he from Nine mentions it being "true" Ouroboros, which suggests he wasn't using the real thing in Phase Shift 1. Basically I believe Hazama has the real one and Terumi just makes his own replica. As for Terumi being a ghost, when Trinity forcibly materialized him in ''CP'' she manifested his spirit as a physical body. He is no longer a true "ghost" anymore (which is why we never see the black and green blob form post-''CS'').
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*** So is this how Hazama and Terumi can both use Ouroboros?
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* How can Terumi manifest Ouroboros? Terumi is
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** The Lux Sanctus Murakumo is not so unique a thing that only one can exist. Theoretically any of the Nox Nyctores could be created multiple times over provided one is capable of doing so. Yes, Lambda's is a replica made by Kokonoe but that's because Lambda was a failed Unit and her Murakumo wasn't complete when she was scrapped. Nu was a success so her Murakumo was smelted along with her. Mu's was created when Terumi smelted Noel into the Kusanagi. They are all their own separate weapons.
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** The Lux Sanctus Murakumo is not so unique a thing that only one can exist. Theoretically any of the Nox Nyctores could be created multiple times over provided one is capable of doing so. Yes, Lambda's is a replica made by Kokonoe but that's because Lambda was a failed Unit and her Murakumo wasn't complete when she was scrapped. Nu was a success so her Murakumo was smelted along with her. Mu's was created when Terumi smelted Noel into the Kusanagi. They are all their own separate weapons.weapons.
*** So is this how Hazama and Terumi can both use Ouroboros?
*** So is this how Hazama and Terumi can both use Ouroboros?
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* How do all of the Murakumo units have their own Murakumo (the sword)? I'm fairly sure Lambda's is a replica, but what about Nu and Mu?
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** Lambda had her own soul. We see that in the memories of the experiments that were performed on her. It's just that Kokonoe erased Lambda's memories and placed Nu's soul inside her body in ''Continuum Shift'', "suppressing" Lambda's soul so to speak. I have no idea why Kokonoe needed to do this but that's what happened.
* How do all of the Murakumo units have their own Murakumo (the sword)? I'm fairly sure Lambda's is a replica, but what about Nu andMu?Mu?
** The Lux Sanctus Murakumo is not so unique a thing that only one can exist. Theoretically any of the Nox Nyctores could be created multiple times over provided one is capable of doing so. Yes, Lambda's is a replica made by Kokonoe but that's because Lambda was a failed Unit and her Murakumo wasn't complete when she was scrapped. Nu was a success so her Murakumo was smelted along with her. Mu's was created when Terumi smelted Noel into the Kusanagi. They are all their own separate weapons.
* How do all of the Murakumo units have their own Murakumo (the sword)? I'm fairly sure Lambda's is a replica, but what about Nu and
** The Lux Sanctus Murakumo is not so unique a thing that only one can exist. Theoretically any of the Nox Nyctores could be created multiple times over provided one is capable of doing so. Yes, Lambda's is a replica made by Kokonoe but that's because Lambda was a failed Unit and her Murakumo wasn't complete when she was scrapped. Nu was a success so her Murakumo was smelted along with her. Mu's was created when Terumi smelted Noel into the Kusanagi. They are all their own separate weapons.
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** It's mostly here on TVTropes, especially in the earlier stages of CT. A lot of YMMV stuffs put Ragna as a RobinHood-esque hero, ChaoticGood, fight to free the world from NOL oppression...and hell, NOL itself is viewed as a [[Franchise/StarWars Palpatine-level]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] due to its 'oppression' (with or without Ragna). A lot of people never bothered to fix those so it's like TVTropes accept that Ragna is like RobinHood, not a LighterAndSofter version of [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]]. Although doing that may risk of putting tons of [[DracoInLeatherPants Leather Pants]] on Hazama/Terumi. Regardless, even if Ragna is brutal, he will always be the {{Face}} and anyone dare oppose him (especially NOL) will be considered {{Heel}}... but is it really true?
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** It's mostly here on TVTropes, Wiki/TVTropes, especially in the earlier stages of CT. A lot of YMMV stuffs put Ragna as a RobinHood-esque hero, ChaoticGood, fight to free the world from NOL oppression...and hell, NOL itself is viewed as a [[Franchise/StarWars Palpatine-level]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] due to its 'oppression' (with or without Ragna). A lot of people never bothered to fix those so it's like TVTropes [=TVTropes=] accept that Ragna is like RobinHood, not a LighterAndSofter version of [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]]. Although doing that may risk of putting tons of [[DracoInLeatherPants Leather Pants]] on Hazama/Terumi. Regardless, even if Ragna is brutal, he will always be the {{Face}} and anyone dare oppose him (especially NOL) will be considered {{Heel}}... but is it really true?
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** The thing is, VideoGame/BlazBlue fandom has a tendency to exaggerate lots of things, NOL's 'Empire'-ness is one of them (last time, Jin's {{Jerkass}}ery was dialled UpToEleven despite some soft spots of his in the past). And it has overarched in TVTropes, it was painful to read. I may even make some Analysis that bust out these myths. Playability does not really count. Kokonoe and Jubei enjoy MASSIVE popularity even when they're not playable. I think people try to defend Kokonoe more than, say, Litchi, because at least she's a good guy fighting the villain rather than someone who supports the villain despite not really agreeing to his principals. This 'Empire-ness' of NOL has caused the definition of HeelFaceTurn and FaceHeelTurn to be twisted, especially the latter. Did Litchi REALLY do a FaceHeelTurn solely for joining NOL, even if her principal of saving people hasn't changed? Did Tsubaki sticking with NOL counts as a FaceHeelTurn, despite, you know, being raised from age zero to serve NOL, and some MindRape? They really haven't crossed the MoralEventHorizon or admited that EvilFeelsGood, so why are they {{Heel}}s for being with NOL? This gets so silly that it's as if the motto of VideoGame/BlazBlue alignment is: "Are you with NOL/Hazama/Relius? If yes, then you're a {{Heel}}. Boo!"
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** The thing is, VideoGame/BlazBlue fandom has a tendency to exaggerate lots of things, NOL's 'Empire'-ness is one of them (last time, Jin's {{Jerkass}}ery was dialled UpToEleven despite some soft spots of his in the past). And it has overarched in TVTropes, Wiki/TVTropes, it was painful to read. I may even make some Analysis that bust out these myths. Playability does not really count. Kokonoe and Jubei enjoy MASSIVE popularity even when they're not playable. I think people try to defend Kokonoe more than, say, Litchi, because at least she's a good guy fighting the villain rather than someone who supports the villain despite not really agreeing to his principals. This 'Empire-ness' of NOL has caused the definition of HeelFaceTurn and FaceHeelTurn to be twisted, especially the latter. Did Litchi REALLY do a FaceHeelTurn solely for joining NOL, even if her principal of saving people hasn't changed? Did Tsubaki sticking with NOL counts as a FaceHeelTurn, despite, you know, being raised from age zero to serve NOL, and some MindRape? They really haven't crossed the MoralEventHorizon or admited that EvilFeelsGood, so why are they {{Heel}}s for being with NOL? This gets so silly that it's as if the motto of VideoGame/BlazBlue alignment is: "Are you with NOL/Hazama/Relius? If yes, then you're a {{Heel}}. Boo!"
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** There's never been a case that showed that NOL directly triggered Ikaruga to 'rebel', it's more like Ikaruga was unsatisfied with how NOL runs things and started a rebellion on their own rather than being incited by NOL. PunchClockVillain? Well, let's look at how Ragna usually raided NOL branches before CT: Everyone is killed, no exceptions. Even if that person was a defenseless woman, or just a man getting his paycheck, no mercy. Also let's consider who voiced their protests on NOL thus far: mostly Sector Seven, who DID oppose them in a way. Everyone was pretty much fine, if a bit annoyed, with their elitist attitude. As far as hyperbolizing, I do not think that was because of the trolling, but more like overexcited fans who like hyperboles and it seems to be in the blood of TVTropes, thereby making VideoGame/BlazBlue fans look... well...foppish?
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** There's never been a case that showed that NOL directly triggered Ikaruga to 'rebel', it's more like Ikaruga was unsatisfied with how NOL runs things and started a rebellion on their own rather than being incited by NOL. PunchClockVillain? Well, let's look at how Ragna usually raided NOL branches before CT: Everyone is killed, no exceptions. Even if that person was a defenseless woman, or just a man getting his paycheck, no mercy. Also let's consider who voiced their protests on NOL thus far: mostly Sector Seven, who DID oppose them in a way. Everyone was pretty much fine, if a bit annoyed, with their elitist attitude. As far as hyperbolizing, I do not think that was because of the trolling, but more like overexcited fans who like hyperboles and it seems to be in the blood of TVTropes, Wiki/TVTropes, thereby making VideoGame/BlazBlue fans look... well...foppish?
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** Because Death Battle fails at doing research. Ragna did not stop the Black Beast from appearing in the past. The Black Beast appeared on December 31, 2099. The time loop only starts on January 1, 2100. The Black Beast's already exists outside the time loop and is fact. In truth Ragna and Nu only fused into a Black Beast successfully in one timeline, which is the one that appeared before the start of the time loop. In every other loop they are both killed before the fusion is complete when Take-Mikazuchi nukes Kagutsuchi. Noel saving Ragna did not change the Black Beast's appearance, all it did was change Ragna's fate of dying if he encounters Nu, which convinced Rachel to intervene and stop Takamagahara from forcing a reset using Take-Mikazuchi, the true reason Amaterasu pressed the ResetButton each time.
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** Because Death Battle fails at doing research. Ragna did not stop the Black Beast from appearing in the past. The Black Beast appeared on December 31, 2099. The time loop only starts on January 1, 2100. The Black Beast's already exists outside the time loop and is fact. In truth Ragna and Nu only fused into a Black Beast successfully in one timeline, which is the one that appeared before the start of the time loop. In every other loop they are both killed before the fusion is complete when Take-Mikazuchi nukes Kagutsuchi. Noel saving Ragna did not change the Black Beast's appearance, all it did was change Ragna's fate of dying if he encounters Nu, which convinced Rachel to intervene and stop Takamagahara from forcing a reset using Take-Mikazuchi, the true reason Amaterasu pressed the ResetButton each time.time.
* How can Lambda and Nu exist in the same game (Chronophantasma)? Doesn't Lambda have Nu's soul, making it impossible for both of them to exist (at least without one of them being without a soul)?
* How do all of the Murakumo units have their own Murakumo (the sword)? I'm fairly sure Lambda's is a replica, but what about Nu and Mu?
* How can Lambda and Nu exist in the same game (Chronophantasma)? Doesn't Lambda have Nu's soul, making it impossible for both of them to exist (at least without one of them being without a soul)?
* How do all of the Murakumo units have their own Murakumo (the sword)? I'm fairly sure Lambda's is a replica, but what about Nu and Mu?
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* I'm going to quote this straight from Death Battle, when Noel saved Ragna from falling in, it would prevent the Black Beast from appearing in the past, but then it wouldn't have created seither, and everything that runs on seither shouldn't work, or more appropriately, wouldn't exist. So... WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL USING SEITHER?!
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* I'm going to quote this straight from Death Battle, when Noel saved Ragna from falling in, it would prevent the Black Beast from appearing in the past, but then it wouldn't have created seither, and everything that runs on seither shouldn't work, or more appropriately, wouldn't exist. So... WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL USING SEITHER?!SEITHER?!
** Because Death Battle fails at doing research. Ragna did not stop the Black Beast from appearing in the past. The Black Beast appeared on December 31, 2099. The time loop only starts on January 1, 2100. The Black Beast's already exists outside the time loop and is fact. In truth Ragna and Nu only fused into a Black Beast successfully in one timeline, which is the one that appeared before the start of the time loop. In every other loop they are both killed before the fusion is complete when Take-Mikazuchi nukes Kagutsuchi. Noel saving Ragna did not change the Black Beast's appearance, all it did was change Ragna's fate of dying if he encounters Nu, which convinced Rachel to intervene and stop Takamagahara from forcing a reset using Take-Mikazuchi, the true reason Amaterasu pressed the ResetButton each time.
** Because Death Battle fails at doing research. Ragna did not stop the Black Beast from appearing in the past. The Black Beast appeared on December 31, 2099. The time loop only starts on January 1, 2100. The Black Beast's already exists outside the time loop and is fact. In truth Ragna and Nu only fused into a Black Beast successfully in one timeline, which is the one that appeared before the start of the time loop. In every other loop they are both killed before the fusion is complete when Take-Mikazuchi nukes Kagutsuchi. Noel saving Ragna did not change the Black Beast's appearance, all it did was change Ragna's fate of dying if he encounters Nu, which convinced Rachel to intervene and stop Takamagahara from forcing a reset using Take-Mikazuchi, the true reason Amaterasu pressed the ResetButton each time.
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** And, once you delve deeper past the surface, the truth is practically laid out before your eyes. In her core, Litchi is NeutralGood, moving to Orient Town and protecting the town, finding ways to preserve the Kaka clan's existence, and essentially helping ''everyone'' in need that she can all while devising a way to destroy or save an old friend. When she decides there's a chance of saving him, the story's progression reveals that she made choices that actually infringed upon LawfulGood territory. While she [[ForcedIntoEvil forcibly]] joins the evil organization NOL and working with Relius and Hazama (both of whom she greatly detests), and siding with Relius in desperate hopes of creating a new world where Roy can even live in normally, she never betrays her personal code of helping others in need (in a given example, calming down an upset, violent and distraught Carl), only attacking others under orders of Relius. By the end of the series, she's back to her NeutralGood ways once everything is said and done.
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*** If any character is Mori's power fantasy, it is Noel, since she gets the Mu-12 form and is the central heroine of the story, Ragna being more or less a diversion. Mori makes a point to give Noel more and more importance, outright getting annoyed when the artists try to give Noel a bigger bust (The ass is what matters!). Azrael being a wildcard is a pretty fun thing for the story, and even in terms of gameplay, it's satisfying to see him pummel everyone around like ragdolls.
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*** If any character is Mori's power fantasy, it is Noel, since she gets the Mu-12 form and is the central heroine of the story, Ragna being more or less a diversion. Mori makes a point to give Noel more and more importance, outright getting annoyed when the artists try to give Noel a bigger bust (The ass is what matters!). Azrael being a wildcard is a pretty fun thing for the story, and even in terms of gameplay, it's satisfying to see him pummel everyone around like ragdolls.ragdolls.
* I'm going to quote this straight from Death Battle, when Noel saved Ragna from falling in, it would prevent the Black Beast from appearing in the past, but then it wouldn't have created seither, and everything that runs on seither shouldn't work, or more appropriately, wouldn't exist. So... WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL USING SEITHER?!
* I'm going to quote this straight from Death Battle, when Noel saved Ragna from falling in, it would prevent the Black Beast from appearing in the past, but then it wouldn't have created seither, and everything that runs on seither shouldn't work, or more appropriately, wouldn't exist. So... WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL USING SEITHER?!
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** IIRC round the release of Chrono Phantasma Mori did an interview where he stated that they added Azrael because they wanted someone who could fight with anyone in the cast with it making sense story-wise. Basically he was added to give the series a wildcard who could go against anybody in the story.
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** IIRC round the release of Chrono Phantasma Mori did an interview where he stated that they added Azrael because they wanted someone who could fight with anyone in the cast with it making sense story-wise. Basically he was added to give the series a wildcard who could go against anybody in the story.story.
*** If any character is Mori's power fantasy, it is Noel, since she gets the Mu-12 form and is the central heroine of the story, Ragna being more or less a diversion. Mori makes a point to give Noel more and more importance, outright getting annoyed when the artists try to give Noel a bigger bust (The ass is what matters!). Azrael being a wildcard is a pretty fun thing for the story, and even in terms of gameplay, it's satisfying to see him pummel everyone around like ragdolls.
*** If any character is Mori's power fantasy, it is Noel, since she gets the Mu-12 form and is the central heroine of the story, Ragna being more or less a diversion. Mori makes a point to give Noel more and more importance, outright getting annoyed when the artists try to give Noel a bigger bust (The ass is what matters!). Azrael being a wildcard is a pretty fun thing for the story, and even in terms of gameplay, it's satisfying to see him pummel everyone around like ragdolls.
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** Only Ragna's arm was the grimoire; it's why only his arm was immobile when Celica deactivated it. In Mai's case the grimoire had fused with her entire body.
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** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.
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** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.either.
** IIRC round the release of Chrono Phantasma Mori did an interview where he stated that they added Azrael because they wanted someone who could fight with anyone in the cast with it making sense story-wise. Basically he was added to give the series a wildcard who could go against anybody in the story.
** IIRC round the release of Chrono Phantasma Mori did an interview where he stated that they added Azrael because they wanted someone who could fight with anyone in the cast with it making sense story-wise. Basically he was added to give the series a wildcard who could go against anybody in the story.
