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* Why the fuck did Mori create Azrael and what the fuck does it do for the series plot? He literally is a mori's little oc power fantasy(tied with Hazama and Relius). And apparently he can't even stopped by Izanami. What does it take for a manly character to be a plot detriment to the point of being a joke gag cuz I don't see Bang beating up god like beings like Rachel while holding back.
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* Why the fuck did Mori create Azrael and what the fuck does it do for the series plot? He literally is a mori's little oc power fantasy(tied with Hazama and Relius). And apparently he can't even stopped by Izanami. What does it take for a manly character to be a plot detriment to the point of being a joke gag cuz I don't see Bang beating up god like beings like Rachel while holding back.back.
** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.
** I'm making assumptions here, but I think Azrael is the result of BlazBlue The Fighting Game needing an ever increasing cast while BlazBlue The Story had all the characters it needed by the end of Continuum Shift. Azrael doesn't really have a purpose being disrupting the plot and slowing down the story, but Bullet, Amane, Mai, and Naoto don't really do much for the narrative, either.
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** The general idea is that while Hakumen is just another player in the overall game of the Continuum Shift, Rachel is an Observer; She, Terumi, Takamagahara, and possibly Kokonoe at the time have the RippleProofMemory that the rest of the cast doesn't benefit from. Rachel, with her knowledge of the timeloop, isn't allowed to take action directly without getting her status as an Observer revoked (which would either A) erase her from existance, or B) maker her just as hepless as the rest of the cast); the fact it's 'too complicated' is her way of saying 'It won't matter if I tell you now, you won't remember it the next time around.'. The best she can do is try to be an unseen chess player in the background. Hakumen, on the other hand, isn't restricted by that little metaphysical law. All we need is one version of Hakumen to develop that also coincides with the 'main' timeline in order to progress.
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** The general idea is that while Hakumen is just another player in the overall game of the Continuum Shift, Rachel is an Observer; She, Terumi, Takamagahara, and possibly Kokonoe at the time have the RippleProofMemory that the rest of the cast doesn't benefit from. Rachel, with her knowledge of the timeloop, isn't allowed to take action directly without getting her status as an Observer revoked (which would either A) erase her from existance, or B) maker her just as hepless as the rest of the cast); the fact it's 'too complicated' is her way of saying 'It won't matter if I tell you now, you won't remember it the next time around.'. The best she can do is try to be an unseen chess player in the background. Hakumen, on the other hand, isn't restricted by that little metaphysical law. All we need is one version of Hakumen to develop that also coincides with the 'main' timeline in order to progress.progress.
* Why the fuck did Mori create Azrael and what the fuck does it do for the series plot? He literally is a mori's little oc power fantasy(tied with Hazama and Relius). And apparently he can't even stopped by Izanami. What does it take for a manly character to be a plot detriment to the point of being a joke gag cuz I don't see Bang beating up god like beings like Rachel while holding back.
* Why the fuck did Mori create Azrael and what the fuck does it do for the series plot? He literally is a mori's little oc power fantasy(tied with Hazama and Relius). And apparently he can't even stopped by Izanami. What does it take for a manly character to be a plot detriment to the point of being a joke gag cuz I don't see Bang beating up god like beings like Rachel while holding back.
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** Pretty sure she's just a very busty woman in a world where many of the prominent female characters (Bullet, Makota, Nine, Tsubaki) are already quite large themselves. Given that super-feminine Noel gets mistaken for a boy or a crossdresser for having what looks like a B-cup, I'd say it's just the artists and devs choosing to average breasts on the larger side.
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* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.
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* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.right.
** The general idea is that while Hakumen is just another player in the overall game of the Continuum Shift, Rachel is an Observer; She, Terumi, Takamagahara, and possibly Kokonoe at the time have the RippleProofMemory that the rest of the cast doesn't benefit from. Rachel, with her knowledge of the timeloop, isn't allowed to take action directly without getting her status as an Observer revoked (which would either A) erase her from existance, or B) maker her just as hepless as the rest of the cast); the fact it's 'too complicated' is her way of saying 'It won't matter if I tell you now, you won't remember it the next time around.'. The best she can do is try to be an unseen chess player in the background. Hakumen, on the other hand, isn't restricted by that little metaphysical law. All we need is one version of Hakumen to develop that also coincides with the 'main' timeline in order to progress.
** The general idea is that while Hakumen is just another player in the overall game of the Continuum Shift, Rachel is an Observer; She, Terumi, Takamagahara, and possibly Kokonoe at the time have the RippleProofMemory that the rest of the cast doesn't benefit from. Rachel, with her knowledge of the timeloop, isn't allowed to take action directly without getting her status as an Observer revoked (which would either A) erase her from existance, or B) maker her just as hepless as the rest of the cast); the fact it's 'too complicated' is her way of saying 'It won't matter if I tell you now, you won't remember it the next time around.'. The best she can do is try to be an unseen chess player in the background. Hakumen, on the other hand, isn't restricted by that little metaphysical law. All we need is one version of Hakumen to develop that also coincides with the 'main' timeline in order to progress.
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* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass| take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.
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* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass| [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.
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* What exactly IS the Boundary? I haven't completed CPEX's story yet, but is it ever really explained? So Roy turned into Arakune, Haku-Men was there, and Terumi threw Nine and Trinity in right? If so, what dictates when someone is killed by it, or turn into something like Arakune
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* What exactly IS the Boundary? I haven't completed CPEX's story yet, but is it ever really explained? So Roy turned into Arakune, Haku-Men was there, and Terumi threw Nine and Trinity in right? If so, what dictates when someone is killed by it, or turn into something like ArakuneArakune
* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass| take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.
* Hakumen's unwillingness to work with others is treated as a character flaw, but isn't that a bit of InformedWrongness, during Continuum Shift at least? He doesn't want anything to do with Rachel, but Rachel for the most part isn't any better a team player than he is since she barely lifts a finger against Terumi's plans and keeps withholding information from Ragna that could help him like that Terumi has a better version of the Azure Grimoire, instead just saying the reasoning is "too complicated." Likewise in his good ending he's supposed to leave things up to Jin, and while Jin shows CharacterDevelopment and starts to [[TookALevelInBadass| take a level in badass]], in Hakuman's story he displays neither, in effect re-enforcing Hakumen's views that his past self can't do anything right.
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* Litchi complains about her chest stopping her from wearing cosplay outfits, but what explains Bullet being able to wear them (she's close to Litchi's bust size)?
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* Litchi complains about her chest stopping her from wearing cosplay outfits, but what explains Bullet being able to wear them (she's close to Litchi's bust size)?size)?
* What exactly IS the Boundary? I haven't completed CPEX's story yet, but is it ever really explained? So Roy turned into Arakune, Haku-Men was there, and Terumi threw Nine and Trinity in right? If so, what dictates when someone is killed by it, or turn into something like Arakune
* What exactly IS the Boundary? I haven't completed CPEX's story yet, but is it ever really explained? So Roy turned into Arakune, Haku-Men was there, and Terumi threw Nine and Trinity in right? If so, what dictates when someone is killed by it, or turn into something like Arakune
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*** Actually, it's implied that Take-Mikazuchi fires once every four years.
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*** Actually, it's implied Rachel explicitly states in the true ending of ''Calamity Trigger'' that Take-Mikazuchi fires can only fire once every four years.years. Of course, this is due to the extremely low levels of seithr in space[[spoiler: -- in ''Chronophantasma'', Izanami brings it down to earth to fire it more frequently]].
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*** Actually, it's implied that Take-Mikazuchi fires once every four years.
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*** Japan was indeed destroyed, but that doesn't mean every Japanese man, woman, and child was as well. Additionally, the Hierarchical Cities are basically cities that are hundreds of feet over the world's surface in elevation. I do believe one of the cities is placed over where Japan used to be.
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***Alright, let me put an end to this confusion. Neither Ragna nor Nu are entirely responsible for the time loop. The one's truly responsible are the beings known as the Takama-ga-hara. They watch over the world endlessly and whenever an event occurs that brings the world towards the path of destruction, they turn back time in order to make subtle changes to the timeline to keep the world from being destroyed. Say that Taokaka or Noel were to die. Despite their varying importance, they are still key figures in the timeline, so if either of them die, BOOM! Time loop. This is especially prevalent with Ragna, as the last thing the Takama-ga-hara need is for him to be turned into the Black Beast. These beings would only continue to loop time until the right events were to occur to keep the world on a path that would avoid utter destruction. Unfortunately, they would soon be outsmarted and taken down by Yuuki Terumi for an indefinite period of time, leaving the only thing to loop time being the Master Unit.
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* In the Remix Heart manga, the complete fusion between a human and a grimoire is called a Remix Heart, and Mai is one such thing (after she merged with the "No Name"). Then could that mean Ragna is a Remix Heart too, since he fuses with the Azure Grimoire? (Not to mention [[spoiler:Izanami might cause Ragna to unwillingly fuse with it further...]])
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* In the Remix Heart manga, the complete fusion between a human and a grimoire is called a Remix Heart, and Mai is one such thing (after she merged with the "No Name"). Then could that mean Ragna is a Remix Heart too, since he fuses with the Azure Grimoire? (Not to mention [[spoiler:Izanami might cause Ragna to unwillingly fuse with it further...]])]])
* Litchi complains about her chest stopping her from wearing cosplay outfits, but what explains Bullet being able to wear them (she's close to Litchi's bust size)?
* Litchi complains about her chest stopping her from wearing cosplay outfits, but what explains Bullet being able to wear them (she's close to Litchi's bust size)?
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** Technically since [[spoiler: the Black Beast was a combination of both CT Nu and CT Ragna, CP Ragna might have gotten the clothes and sword of CT Ragna within the black beast. The game doesn't show it, but in the Phase Shift Novel Ragna does have at least the jacket when Celica meets him within the Black Beast before he returned to the present so him not having those things in the game was kind of odd (though the game did gloss over a bunch of things from the novels, so it might be that they skipped it)]]
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** Technically since [[spoiler: the Black Beast was a combination of both CT Nu and CT Ragna, CP Ragna might have gotten the clothes and sword of CT Ragna within the black beast. The game doesn't show it, but in the Phase Shift Novel Ragna does have at least the jacket when Celica meets him within the Black Beast before he returned to the present so him not having those things in the game was kind of odd (though the game did gloss over a bunch of things from the novels, so it might be that they skipped it)]]it)]]
* In the Remix Heart manga, the complete fusion between a human and a grimoire is called a Remix Heart, and Mai is one such thing (after she merged with the "No Name"). Then could that mean Ragna is a Remix Heart too, since he fuses with the Azure Grimoire? (Not to mention [[spoiler:Izanami might cause Ragna to unwillingly fuse with it further...]])
* In the Remix Heart manga, the complete fusion between a human and a grimoire is called a Remix Heart, and Mai is one such thing (after she merged with the "No Name"). Then could that mean Ragna is a Remix Heart too, since he fuses with the Azure Grimoire? (Not to mention [[spoiler:Izanami might cause Ragna to unwillingly fuse with it further...]])
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** It was a matter of GameplayAndStoryIntergration mixed with immersion. Ragna's Azure Grimoire is his right eye and arm, so when disabled by say, Terumi or Celica, his right eye is blinded and his right arm is paralyzed. In the case of Terumi negating the Azure Grimoire, Ragna's sword arm was weakened enough to be unable to support Bloodscythe. He's simply not strong enough to use his moves without his dominant arm.
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*** Actually, it's because Kokonoe has been observing him, which enables her to understand what Arakune has been saying the entire time. Odds are when she started and tried to communicate with him before he went loose, Arakune introduced himself as, well, Arakune.
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** If Kokonoe could see what Ragna sees after he absorbed the Idea Engine, she should've noticed. Unless Kokonoe has a plan behind this all, I really find it jarring that she'll just stay silent. After all, judging from the situation, either Litchi would be pissed off enough at Sector Seven for ignoring her pleas that she decides to leak their information to NOL, or NOL forces her to do it against her will. Either way, unlike last time when Litchi's search for Arakune is still considered harmless for Kokonoe, there would be a danger present to Kokonoe...then she just... [[{{Warcraft}} laughs in the face of danger]]?
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** If Kokonoe could see what Ragna sees after he absorbed the Idea Engine, she should've noticed. Unless Kokonoe has a plan behind this all, I really find it jarring that she'll just stay silent. After all, judging from the situation, either Litchi would be pissed off enough at Sector Seven for ignoring her pleas that she decides to leak their information to NOL, or NOL forces her to do it against her will. Either way, unlike last time when Litchi's search for Arakune is still considered harmless for Kokonoe, there would be a danger present to Kokonoe...then she just... [[{{Warcraft}} [[VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} laughs in the face of danger]]?
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* In CP, we learn that Ragna came back to the present after fighting the Black Beast. He left his coat and sword with Celica to be given back to him later (as in when he's finished training with Jubei later in the timeline), and he returns to the present sans coat and sword. When he gets back Kagura's place to yell at Kokonoe, he has his coat and sword back....where did he get them from?
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** Basically its like this [[spoiler: When Terumi abandoned his old body, he became a spirit. In that past, Relius created a body for him to inhabit (Kazuma) and fuse with (mind and body), but due to an incident in the past (Nine's using Mind Eater on Terumi) it became impossible for Terumi to fully fuse his mind with that of the body he possesses. So basically Terumi (the spirit that was one of the six heroes) and Hazama (the original personality that inhabited the Hazama body) are two separate minds within the same body.]]
* In CP, we learn that Ragna came back to the present after fighting the Black Beast. He left his coat and sword with Celica to be given back to him later (as in when he's finished training with Jubei later in the timeline), and he returns to the present sans coat and sword. When he gets back Kagura's place to yell at Kokonoe, he has his coat and sword back....where did he get themfrom?from?
** Technically since [[spoiler: the Black Beast was a combination of both CT Nu and CT Ragna, CP Ragna might have gotten the clothes and sword of CT Ragna within the black beast. The game doesn't show it, but in the Phase Shift Novel Ragna does have at least the jacket when Celica meets him within the Black Beast before he returned to the present so him not having those things in the game was kind of odd (though the game did gloss over a bunch of things from the novels, so it might be that they skipped it)]]
* In CP, we learn that Ragna came back to the present after fighting the Black Beast. He left his coat and sword with Celica to be given back to him later (as in when he's finished training with Jubei later in the timeline), and he returns to the present sans coat and sword. When he gets back Kagura's place to yell at Kokonoe, he has his coat and sword back....where did he get them
** Technically since [[spoiler: the Black Beast was a combination of both CT Nu and CT Ragna, CP Ragna might have gotten the clothes and sword of CT Ragna within the black beast. The game doesn't show it, but in the Phase Shift Novel Ragna does have at least the jacket when Celica meets him within the Black Beast before he returned to the present so him not having those things in the game was kind of odd (though the game did gloss over a bunch of things from the novels, so it might be that they skipped it)]]
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** Just like with Kazuma in Phase Shift 1, apparently the Hazama body had a mind of its own. They mention that Relius made the body to be as close to Terumi's mind as possible so they could fuse more easily. From what I can gather this means that they are seperate people, but Terumi is in control all the time, unless he is seperated.
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** Just like with Kazuma in Phase Shift 1, apparently the Hazama body had a mind of its own. They mention that Relius made the body to be as close to Terumi's mind as possible so they could fuse more easily. From what I can gather this means that they are seperate people, but Terumi is in control all the time, unless he is seperated.seperated.
* In CP, we learn that Ragna came back to the present after fighting the Black Beast. He left his coat and sword with Celica to be given back to him later (as in when he's finished training with Jubei later in the timeline), and he returns to the present sans coat and sword. When he gets back Kagura's place to yell at Kokonoe, he has his coat and sword back....where did he get them from?
* In CP, we learn that Ragna came back to the present after fighting the Black Beast. He left his coat and sword with Celica to be given back to him later (as in when he's finished training with Jubei later in the timeline), and he returns to the present sans coat and sword. When he gets back Kagura's place to yell at Kokonoe, he has his coat and sword back....where did he get them from?
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* It's entirely possible that this was properly explained and I was just too stupid/inattentive to understand it but, [[spoiler: what exactly is the relationship between Hazama and Terumi? I thought that Hazama was just Terumi possessing a different body but then in CP they're treated like they're separate characters or personalities at the end. Terumi even says that Hazama asked him to do a favor at one point.]] Can someone explain that to me?
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* It's entirely possible that this was properly explained and I was just too stupid/inattentive to understand it but, [[spoiler: what exactly is the relationship between Hazama and Terumi? I thought that Hazama was just Terumi possessing a different body but then in CP they're treated like they're separate characters or personalities at the end. Terumi even says that Hazama asked him to do a favor at one point.]] Can someone explain that to me?me?
** Just like with Kazuma in Phase Shift 1, apparently the Hazama body had a mind of its own. They mention that Relius made the body to be as close to Terumi's mind as possible so they could fuse more easily. From what I can gather this means that they are seperate people, but Terumi is in control all the time, unless he is seperated.
** Just like with Kazuma in Phase Shift 1, apparently the Hazama body had a mind of its own. They mention that Relius made the body to be as close to Terumi's mind as possible so they could fuse more easily. From what I can gather this means that they are seperate people, but Terumi is in control all the time, unless he is seperated.
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** It's mostly here on TVTropes, especially in the earlier stages of CT. A lot of YMMV stuffs put Ragna as a RobinHood-esque hero, ChaoticGood, fight to free the world from NOL oppression...and hell, NOL itself is viewed as a [[StarWars Palpatine-level]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] due to its 'oppression' (with or without Ragna). A lot of people never bothered to fix those so it's like TVTropes accept that Ragna is like RobinHood, not a LighterAndSofter version of [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]]. Although doing that may risk of putting tons of [[DracoInLeatherPants Leather Pants]] on Hazama/Terumi. Regardless, even if Ragna is brutal, he will always be the {{Face}} and anyone dare oppose him (especially NOL) will be considered {{Heel}}... but is it really true?
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** It's mostly here on TVTropes, especially in the earlier stages of CT. A lot of YMMV stuffs put Ragna as a RobinHood-esque hero, ChaoticGood, fight to free the world from NOL oppression...and hell, NOL itself is viewed as a [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Palpatine-level]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] due to its 'oppression' (with or without Ragna). A lot of people never bothered to fix those so it's like TVTropes accept that Ragna is like RobinHood, not a LighterAndSofter version of [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]]. Although doing that may risk of putting tons of [[DracoInLeatherPants Leather Pants]] on Hazama/Terumi. Regardless, even if Ragna is brutal, he will always be the {{Face}} and anyone dare oppose him (especially NOL) will be considered {{Heel}}... but is it really true?
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* This could just be a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, but during the portion of the story modes in CS [[spoiler:and CP]] where Ragna's unable to use Soul Eater, why isn't he able use the Drive attacks that involve Blood-Scythe? Most of his Drive moves are just him covering his sword with darkness, it can't be ''that'' hard to simply remove the darkness-stuff from the attack animation, and just restrict moves like the Hell's Fang followup and Dead Spike, could it?
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* This could just be a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, but during the portion of the story modes in CS [[spoiler:and CP]] where Ragna's unable to use Soul Eater, why isn't he able use the Drive attacks that involve Blood-Scythe? Most of his Drive moves are just him covering his sword with darkness, it can't be ''that'' hard to simply remove the darkness-stuff from the attack animation, and just restrict moves like the Hell's Fang followup and Dead Spike, could it?it?
* It's entirely possible that this was properly explained and I was just too stupid/inattentive to understand it but, [[spoiler: what exactly is the relationship between Hazama and Terumi? I thought that Hazama was just Terumi possessing a different body but then in CP they're treated like they're separate characters or personalities at the end. Terumi even says that Hazama asked him to do a favor at one point.]] Can someone explain that to me?
* It's entirely possible that this was properly explained and I was just too stupid/inattentive to understand it but, [[spoiler: what exactly is the relationship between Hazama and Terumi? I thought that Hazama was just Terumi possessing a different body but then in CP they're treated like they're separate characters or personalities at the end. Terumi even says that Hazama asked him to do a favor at one point.]] Can someone explain that to me?
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** Seeing as how three of the Six Heroes were refugees from Japan and the other three had backgrounds that they couldn't really share, I'd say it's reasonable that the NOL would adopt Japanese culture.
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** Seeing as how three of the Six Heroes were refugees from Japan and the other three had backgrounds that they couldn't really share, I'd say it's reasonable that the NOL would adopt Japanese culture.culture.
* This could just be a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, but during the portion of the story modes in CS [[spoiler:and CP]] where Ragna's unable to use Soul Eater, why isn't he able use the Drive attacks that involve Blood-Scythe? Most of his Drive moves are just him covering his sword with darkness, it can't be ''that'' hard to simply remove the darkness-stuff from the attack animation, and just restrict moves like the Hell's Fang followup and Dead Spike, could it?
* This could just be a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation, but during the portion of the story modes in CS [[spoiler:and CP]] where Ragna's unable to use Soul Eater, why isn't he able use the Drive attacks that involve Blood-Scythe? Most of his Drive moves are just him covering his sword with darkness, it can't be ''that'' hard to simply remove the darkness-stuff from the attack animation, and just restrict moves like the Hell's Fang followup and Dead Spike, could it?
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** Mind sharing with us who exactly this ''everyone'' is? Not once has this troper thought Ragna was in a quest to save the world from the seemly oppressive force of the NOL, are you sure this isn't a case of MisaimedFandom instead? Though the fact that Ragna is obviously following his own agenda and pretty much kills any in his path is a case of AllThereInTheManual. Still he is TheProtagonist, while not TheHero per se, Ragna is the focus of everything, so it's obvious some {{Fanon}} will portray him as a hero. Also his PetTheDog and CutenessProximity moments boosts his popularity and the false of sense of BigGood quite a notch. Finally Ragna is a WhiteHairedPrettyBoy, one of the most gullible targets of MisaimedFandom ever, keep that in mind.
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** Mind sharing with us who exactly this ''everyone'' is? Not once has this troper thought Ragna was in a quest to save the world from the seemly oppressive force of the NOL, are you sure this isn't a case of MisaimedFandom instead? Though the fact that Ragna is obviously following his own agenda and pretty much kills any in his path is a case of AllThereInTheManual. Still he is TheProtagonist, while not TheHero per se, Ragna is the focus of everything, so it's obvious some {{Fanon}} will portray him as a hero. Also his PetTheDog and CutenessProximity moments boosts his popularity and the false of sense of BigGood quite a notch. Finally Ragna is a WhiteHairedPrettyBoy, one of the most gullible targets of MisaimedFandom ever, keep that in mind.
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* If Japan was wiped off the face of the Earth by the Black Beast, why does almost everyone and everything have Japanese names?
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* If Japan was wiped off the face of the Earth by the Black Beast, why does almost everyone and everything have Japanese names?names?
** Seeing as how three of the Six Heroes were refugees from Japan and the other three had backgrounds that they couldn't really share, I'd say it's reasonable that the NOL would adopt Japanese culture.
** Seeing as how three of the Six Heroes were refugees from Japan and the other three had backgrounds that they couldn't really share, I'd say it's reasonable that the NOL would adopt Japanese culture.
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** The Black Beast isn't completely mindless - at least it wasn't at the moment when Hakumen killed it in the "Innocent Black" short-story. Also, it's possible that Ouroboros' ability to mess with people's mind is simply an extension of the Nox Nyctores' general ability to restrain their user's emotions. Alternatively, because Terumi had at least some role in it's development and this is the kind of things that he'd want.
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* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine?
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* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine?machine?
* If Japan was wiped off the face of the Earth by the Black Beast, why does almost everyone and everything have Japanese names?
* If Japan was wiped off the face of the Earth by the Black Beast, why does almost everyone and everything have Japanese names?
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* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine.
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* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine.machine?
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** Oh, okay. This actually gives me hope for the story. Maybe I will pick the games up.
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** Oh, okay. This actually gives me hope for the story. Maybe I will pick the games up.up.
* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine.
* The Nox Nyctores were created to fight against the Black Beast... so what's the point of making Ouroboros, a weapon that can mind rape, when it's supposed to be used against mindless killing machine.
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** The lynchpin was created in order to seal off the Boundary by one the scientists working under Relius during the original Cauldron experiment. He did this because he felt wary of the experiment since it was done under the instructions of an "unknown green-haired man" (obviously Terumi). In order to seal off the Boundary, it needs to be used alongside a key. He intended to use it when the Black Beast was released, but the key was missing. (It's not clear if he lost it or if it was stolen.)
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*** Take-Mikazuchi was fired by Nine at the Black Beast during the war (Phase Shift 2), so it's probably under Terumi/the NOL's control via Phantom's magic. It fired at Ibukido, presumably in order to stop the scientists of Ikaruga from completing a Murakumo Unit. Most likely, the entire point of having it shoot at Kagutsuchi was to distract Rachel long enough for Terumi to pull his "LOOK AT ME!" gambit with Noel.
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** Jin's body was presumably disolved by the Black Beast or something - it was so messed up that he couldn't move, so it's doubtful that anyone bothered to salvage it. As for his soul, just look at that cutscene where Hazama 'forges' Kusanagi - extracted souls appear as spheres of light. Since Susano'o is made to house a soul, presumably it's just a matter of guiding it to the unit.
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** [[MST3KMantra Honestly you are better of not trying to think about the original timeline.]] [[TimeyWimeyBall For all intents and purposes there is no original timeline.]] If there were a timeline with Five Heroes everything would have been so different that it is unlikely those events would create the Blazblue timeline that would lead to certain characters going back in time to create the history we know. For instance the supposed original timeline would not have the presence of Bloodedge, so humanity should have been wiped out before they perfected Ars Magus. If there is an original timeline Jubei would never have changed his name from Mitsuyoshi and Blood-Scythe would never have existed. Blazblue has a StableTimeLoop. Hakumen was always Jin from the future. Terumi left the Susanooh Unit ended before he possessed Kazuma so that would not affect the legend of the Six Heroes. Ragna got his sword and jacket from himself and Jubei changed his name in honor of a friend who knew him by a different name in the future. Time doesn’t move in a straight line. It doesn’t matter that Jin didn’t exist yet because he would exist since he has to go back in time to become Hakumen. The first timeline is merely the first loop that the Observers experienced but it was not independent of the effects of Ragna and Jin’s time travel, which was connected to but separate from the time loops.
