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* Yuga and Luke's respective Ace Monsters have a lot of things in common with their original inspirations, the Dark Magician and the Blue-Eyes White Dragon, especially when you consider their modern playstyles. Sevens Road Magician may not be as strong as other monsters but it has the potential to overcome them through the various use of supporting cards, much like how Dark Magician has many tricks up his sleeve to steer the direction of the battle in his favor. Multistrike Dragon Dragias follows the Blue-Eyes White Dragon philosophy of the path of least resistance. It is often the strongest monster on the field and thus its supporting cards makes sure it stays that way.

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* Yuga and Luke's respective Ace Monsters have a lot of things in common with their original inspirations, the Dark Magician and the Blue-Eyes White Dragon, especially when you consider their modern playstyles. Sevens Road Magician may not be as strong as other monsters but it has the potential to overcome them through the various use of supporting cards, much like how Dark Magician has many tricks up his sleeve to steer the direction of the battle in his favor. Multistrike Dragon Dragias follows the Blue-Eyes White Dragon philosophy of the path of least resistance. It is often the strongest monster on the field and thus its supporting cards makes make sure it stays that way.
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* Yuga and Luke's respective Ace Monsters have a lot of things in common with their original inspirations, the Dark Magician and the Blue-Eyes White Dragon, especially when you consider their modern playstyles. Sevens Road Magician may not be as strong as other monsters but it has the potential to overcome them through the various use of supporting cards, much like how Dark Magician has many tricks up his sleeve to steer the direction of the battle in his favor. Multistrike Dragon Dragias follows the Blue-Eyes White Dragon philosophy of the path of least resistance. It is often the strongest monster on the field and thus its supporting cards makes sure it stays that way.

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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off Fusion Monsters from major characters, most notably Luke, Romin, and Gakuto since they didn't have access to Maximum Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.
** Fusion is also less of a deck building hassle. You just need to put in one card and you can seemingly fuse anything together, as Fusion Monsters seem to appear to the user when the card is used. Meanwhile with Maximum Monsters you not only need to put three cards into your deck, but you also tend to need to dedicate yourself to strategies to let you draw all three pieces together to get the full use of the cards.

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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by had fallen out of focus in favor of Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. It’s implied they also have to be recharged every once in a while or else they revert back to the ID cards. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off Fusion Monsters from major characters, most notably Luke, Romin, and Gakuto since they didn't have access to Maximum Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.
** Fusion is also less of a deck building hassle. You just need to put in one card and you can seemingly fuse anything together, as Fusion Monsters seem to appear to the user when the card is used. Meanwhile with Maximum Monsters you not only need to put three cards into your deck, but you also tend to need to dedicate yourself to strategies to let you draw all three pieces together to get the full use of the cards.
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* As noted above, in the rush duel tournament Yuga's team was framed in an antagonistic manner, leading to Luke's victory. In the final duel of the Goha siblings' arc, however, the situation is exactly reversed, with Yuga fighting with his usual companions against Luke, who sides with a Goha executive and wields a summoning method precluded to everyone on the other team. Even better, in both cases Nail is given a special permit (although is more and order in the second case) and duels in the penultimate battle.

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* As noted above, in the rush duel tournament Yuga's team was framed in an antagonistic manner, leading to Luke's victory. In the final duel of the Goha siblings' arc, however, the situation is exactly reversed, with Yuga fighting with his usual companions against Luke, who sides with a Goha executive and wields a summoning method precluded to everyone on the other team. Even better, in both cases Nail is given a special permit (although it is more and of an order in the second case) and duels in the penultimate battle.
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** This is also why Nail appears to hit a wall upon his subsequent returns. As a boy of data and facts, Nail ends up being very rigid, while he may switch out some cards, they all serve to bring out Yggdrago. Even when others are switching to Fusion Monsters, Nail insists on using his Maximum Monster which by now, most of his opponents know how to get around it.
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* Why does Sevens Road Magician gain ATK based on the number of different attributes in the graveyard? Because the in-universe fairy tale character the card is based on goes around destroying the 6 elements of Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, Light, and Darkness as part of his journey.
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* When you think to a certain [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries parody of the original series]], Otes's plan is to put children back into a children's card game.
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** Marriage is not a prerequisite for pregnancy and childbirth. While nearly every society in the history of Earth discriminated against unwed mothers, it has never been a biological necessity. So the question is who slept with her and impregnated her with Yoshio.
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* Yuga Goha being being beaten by Luke using Yuga's deck notes how he is a dark reflection of both of them. Like Yuga he uses a multi-attribute deck to support his Dark ace monsters, spreads chaos, and has quite a lot of similarities to Yuga in name and appearance. Like Luke he became who he is from exposure to adult duel centers, has inexplicable powers connected to an object, and comes from a powerful family while generally going by a different name. However all of these are dark reflections of the two: He uses his other cards to power up Gunleon and Caliguleon much more callously than Yuga powers Seven Roads Magician, his chaos isn't the sort that revitalizes oppressive order but destruction and loss, and those who had thought Yuga was the lost Goha sibling would very much have preferred Yuga to the terrifying and ruthless Yuga Goha, while Luke got his dueling skills from his exposure to adult dueling versus Yuga getting his ruthlessness from it, Luke's 'Luke Devil' ability is not used to make people lose their memories or to hurt those around him in general, nor does his ability to create cards from nowhere or no-sell mind control, and while Luke chooses to go by Luke Yuga Goha became Swirly because he lost his memories and was stuck that way.

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* Yuga Goha being being beaten by Luke using Yuga's deck notes how he is a dark reflection of both of them. Like Yuga he uses a multi-attribute deck to support his Dark ace monsters, spreads chaos, and has quite a lot of similarities to Yuga in name and appearance. Like Luke he became who he is from exposure to adult duel centers, has inexplicable powers connected to an object, and comes from a powerful family while generally going by a different name. However all of these are dark reflections of the two: He uses his other cards to power up Gunleon and Caliguleon much more callously than Yuga powers Seven Roads Magician, his chaos isn't the sort that revitalizes oppressive order but destruction and loss, and those who had thought Yuga was the lost Goha sibling would very much have preferred Yuga to the terrifying and ruthless Yuga Goha, while Luke got his dueling skills from his exposure to adult dueling versus Yuga getting his ruthlessness from it, Luke's 'Luke Devil' ability is not used to make people lose their memories or to hurt those around him in general, nor does his ability to create cards from nowhere or no-sell mind control, and while Luke chooses to go by Luke Yuga Goha became Swirly because he lost his memories and was stuck that way. Both Yuga and Luke were labeled as the sixth sibling at one point, further linking the two to Yuga Goha.

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* Yuga Goha being being beaten by Luke using Yuga's deck notes how he is a dark reflection of both of them. Like Yuga he uses a multi-attribute deck to support his Dark ace monsters, spreads chaos, and has quite a lot of similarities to Yuga in name and appearance. Like Luke he became who he is from exposure to adult duel centers, has inexplicable powers connected to an object, and comes from a powerful family while generally going by a different name. However all of these are dark reflections of the two: He uses his other cards to power up Gunleon and Caliguleon much more callously than Yuga powers Seven Roads Magician, his chaos isn't the sort that revitalizes oppressive order but destruction and loss, and those who had thought Yuga was the lost Goha sibling would very much have preferred Yuga to the terrifying and ruthless Yuga Goha, while Luke got his dueling skills from his exposure to adult dueling versus Yuga getting his ruthlessness from it, Luke's 'Luke Devil' ability is not used to make people lose their memories or to hurt those around him in general, nor does his ability to create cards from nowhere or no-sell mind control, and while Luke chooses to go by Luke Yuga Goha became Swirly because he lost his memories and was stuck that way.
** Luke defeating him in particular brings to mind his duels with Yuga the good guy: Both Yuga's rely a lot on their graveyards, and Luke is well aware of that. He had already incorporated cards that can counter that to his own deck (Road Crusher for example), and thus he had the mindset to find a way to recreate that ability with Yuga's cards.
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* Neiru is big on 'Providence'. One definition is 'timely preparation for future eventualities' - his deck is all about filtering his hand to get the cards he needs.

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* Neiru Nail is big on 'Providence'. One definition is 'timely preparation for future eventualities' - his deck is all about filtering his hand to get the cards he needs.



* Why did Yuga lose to Luke in the battle royal team tournament? Because from the perspective of Luke King Luke Kings, [=YugaNeiru=] with R can be seen as antagonistic. The first duel was between a blackmailer and his former victim, the second duel was an uphil battle between a lone warrior standing against a near undefeatable opponent, and the last duel was between rivals with the winner being the one with a greater desire to achieve victory and his goal.
** It's worth pointing out that two of the members of [=YugaNeiru=] with R are former arc villains, adding to the theme. And the fact that Luke King Luke Kings doesn't have Maximum Summoning puts them even more in the position of an underdog protagonist in the fight. They also start the finals with less points, and narratively is the main character that starts with a disadvantage.

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* Why did Yuga lose to Luke in the battle royal team tournament? Because from the perspective of Luke King Luke Kings, [=YugaNeiru=] [=YugaNail=] with R can be seen as antagonistic. The first duel was between a blackmailer and his former victim, the second duel was an uphil battle between a lone warrior standing against a near undefeatable opponent, and the last duel was between rivals with the winner being the one with a greater desire to achieve victory and his goal.
** It's worth pointing out that two of the members of [=YugaNeiru=] [=YugaNail=] with R are former arc villains, adding to the theme. And the fact that Luke King Luke Kings doesn't have Maximum Summoning puts them even more in the position of an underdog protagonist in the fight. They also start the finals with less points, and narratively is the main character that starts with a disadvantage.



** Confirmed in Episode 24 that Neiru had implemented a new summoning method in a vacant area in the programming that was [[HoistBYHisOwnPetard left by Yuga to install new rules later down the line]].

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** Confirmed in Episode 24 that Neiru Nail had implemented a new summoning method in a vacant area in the programming that was [[HoistBYHisOwnPetard left by Yuga to install new rules later down the line]].



*** It doesn't, Neiru did not modify Yuga's work, he noticed an opening that Yuga deliberately left for others to fill. It's not hacking, but more like winning a contest by being the only one participating. Also, Yuga merely created a new ''format'' with its rules, but the cards and legality are still made and determined by Goha (which is also how it work in real life: if you developed a format and Konami adopted, they would still make the cards for it and any ban list would require their approval to be official, this is actually how the commander format in Magic works). Also, when you look at it more carefully, while Yuga created the format it was only implemented and made legal by Otes' shenanigans, and Otes himself is a Goha official.

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*** It doesn't, Neiru Nail did not modify Yuga's work, he noticed an opening that Yuga deliberately left for others to fill. It's not hacking, but more like winning a contest by being the only one participating. Also, Yuga merely created a new ''format'' with its rules, but the cards and legality are still made and determined by Goha (which is also how it work in real life: if you developed a format and Konami adopted, they would still make the cards for it and any ban list would require their approval to be official, this is actually how the commander format in Magic works). Also, when you look at it more carefully, while Yuga created the format it was only implemented and made legal by Otes' shenanigans, and Otes himself is a Goha official.



*** It doesn't get ''past'' Goha, though, Neiru ''is'' Goha. The episode that introduced Maximum Summoning actually had the tops of hexagon trying to remove him and utterly failing, so they can't stop him, and he actually planned the summoning method around a deck that could easily get it through constant filtering (although we don't know how many Maximum Cards are allowed in a deck), so that's not the question. Mr. Goha is the only one who could do anything about it, but he seems to be just having fun so far. Also, likely RuleOfCool and the different way card availability works in the anime are why Maximum will keep being a thing.

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*** It doesn't get ''past'' Goha, though, Neiru Nail ''is'' Goha. The episode that introduced Maximum Summoning actually had the tops of hexagon trying to remove him and utterly failing, so they can't stop him, and he actually planned the summoning method around a deck that could easily get it through constant filtering (although we don't know how many Maximum Cards are allowed in a deck), so that's not the question. Mr. Goha is the only one who could do anything about it, but he seems to be just having fun so far. Also, likely RuleOfCool and the different way card availability works in the anime are why Maximum will keep being a thing.
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* Given Goha's theme numbering, it is little wonder the arc where Yuga and co are working at Goha is the ''sixth'' arc of the series.
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** Fusion is also less of a deck building hassle. You just need to put in one card and you can seemingly fuse anything together, as Fusion Monsters seem to appear to the user when the card is used. Meanwhile with Maximum Monsters you not only need to put three cards into your deck, but you also tend to need to dedicate yourself to strategies to let you draw all three pieces together to get the full use of the cards.
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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off the major character's Fusion Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.

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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off the major character's Fusion Monsters from major characters, most notably Luke, Romin, and Gakuto since they didn't have access to Maximum Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.
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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off the main quartet's Fusion Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.

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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off the main quartet's major character's Fusion Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.
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* After its introduction in Season 2, Maximum Summoning have been [[SoLastSeason essentially outclassed]] by Fusion Summoning. But this makes sense in context considering the circumstances. Maximum Monsters require a complete card overwrite onto 3 duelist ID cards, something that is difficult to get a hold of. Because of this only a small handful of characters have Maximum Monsters. The Fusion card on the other hand is a bit more accessible after the arc it was introduced in. A big part of the second arc of Season 2 is showing off the main quartet's Fusion Monsters. As such, Maximum Monsters are pushed aside not because of the new summoning method, but because the Fusion card is easier to get.
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(You don't like me P Ming you, so only way to clarify this. When I said 'and yes Yuka is the weakest of the five but I am happy with the rest of them.' I meant in the theming on the opponents who beat them.

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