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* The business with the Metroids' tame nature towards the Thoha tribe, hostility towards the Mawkin tribe, and how these elements interact within Samus can be headscratching at first, but upon some closer examination, it all checks out. Samus was to be the Chozo peoples' collective child, the chosen heiress to all their great works. This would include the Metroids, thus she was given Thoha genes via Gray Voice in order to tame them. By itself, this would create a plot hold, since the Metroids of course don't regard Samus calmly. These genes are offset by Raven Beak's own contribution of Mawkin tribe genes, contributed for the sake of granting Samus the superhuman potential of the Chozo, but at the cost of inheriting the DNA the Metroid react ''especially'' violent to in that the Mawkin and Thoha were at odds and the Metroids were bred with that in mind. To make a long story short, the Mawkin genes that make Samus a SuperSoldier ''cancel out'' the effect the Thoha genes would have had otherwise to let her interact with Metroids peacefully.

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* The business with the Metroids' tame nature towards the Thoha tribe, hostility towards the Mawkin tribe, and how these elements interact within Samus can be headscratching at first, but upon some closer examination, it all checks out. Samus was to be the Chozo peoples' collective child, the chosen heiress to all their great works. This would include the Metroids, thus she was given Thoha genes via Gray Voice in order to tame them. By itself, this would create a plot hold, hole, since the Metroids of course don't regard Samus calmly. These genes are offset by Raven Beak's own contribution of Mawkin tribe genes, contributed for the sake of granting Samus the superhuman potential of the Chozo, but at the cost of inheriting the DNA the Metroid react ''especially'' violent to in that the Mawkin and Thoha were at odds and the Metroids were bred with that in mind. To make a long story short, the Mawkin genes that make Samus a SuperSoldier ''cancel out'' the effect the Thoha genes would have had otherwise to let her interact with Metroids peacefully.



** The matter of Quiet Robe's X copy could be explained even more simply than this: the Thoha had a pacifying effect on Metroids due to their unique genetic variance in the Chozo, and the Metroids were developed and cultivated on [=SR388=] -- the homeworld of the X, and grown on the same unique energy sources that gave rise to the parasites. In short, [[TooSpicyForYogSogoth it's incredibly likely the Thoha gene has a similar effect on the X]], and assimilating Quiet Robe only served to dampen its instincts, thus leaving the memories and intelligence it mimicked in greater control.

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** The matter of Quiet Robe's X copy could be explained even more simply than this: the Thoha had a pacifying effect on Metroids due to their unique genetic variance in the Chozo, and the Metroids were developed and cultivated on [=SR388=] -- the homeworld of the X, and grown on the same unique energy sources that gave rise to the parasites. In short, [[TooSpicyForYogSogoth it's incredibly likely the Thoha gene has a similar effect on the X]], and assimilating Quiet Robe only served to dampen its instincts, thus leaving the memories and intelligence it mimicked in greater control. Hell, the first thing the "QR-X" does upon awakening is to repeat Quiet Robe's last words to Samus, as though from the moment of its formation, the identity it consumed was beginning to exert greater influence.
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* The business with the Metroids' tame nature towards the Thoha tribe, hostility towards the Mawkin tribe, and how these elements interact within Samus can be headscratching at first, but upon some closer examination, it all checks out. Samus was to be the Chozo peoples' collective child, the chosen heiress to all their great works. This would include the Metroids, thus she was given Thoha genes via Gray Voice in order to tame them. By itself, this would create a plot hold, since the Metroids of course don't regard Samus calmly. These genes are offset by Raven Beak's own contribution of Mawkin tribe genes, contributed for the sake of granting Samus the superhuman potential of the Chozo, but at the cost of inheriting the DNA the Metroid react ''especially'' violent to in that the Mawkin and Thoha were at odds and the Metroids were bred with that in mind. To make a long story short, the Mawkin genes that make Samus a SuperSoldier ''cancel out'' the effect the Thoha genes would have had otherwise to let her interact with Metroids peacefully.


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** The matter of Quiet Robe's X copy could be explained even more simply than this: the Thoha had a pacifying effect on Metroids due to their unique genetic variance in the Chozo, and the Metroids were developed and cultivated on [=SR388=] -- the homeworld of the X, and grown on the same unique energy sources that gave rise to the parasites. In short, [[TooSpicyForYogSogoth it's incredibly likely the Thoha gene has a similar effect on the X]], and assimilating Quiet Robe only served to dampen its instincts, thus leaving the memories and intelligence it mimicked in greater control.
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* Samus' Metroid power briefly awakens when she sees the mural of Raven Beak ordering the slaughter of the Thoha Chozo. The only other times it involuntarily awakens is during moments of extreme stress (i.e. the orange E.M.M.I. attack) - this could mean Samus is terrified at seeing the facsimile of Raven Beak, or it could show her fury at seeing the massacre of the Thoha.
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* Kraid has had a ''rough'' go of it. After getting wrecked by Samus on Zebes (twice), he somehow got captured by the Mawkin Chozo. They strung him up in harsh restraints and left him with painful sores and infections on his belly. Then he got killed by Samus (again), only for his remains to be absorbed by an X and desecrated as part of some terrible abomination (killed again by Samus). And since we've never seen Kraid massacre a colony of innocents like Ridley, it's a lot easier to feel sympathy for the big guy.
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* Raven Beak spares Samus at the beginning of the game, just like how Samus spared the baby Metroid at the end of ''Metroid II'': this time ''Samus'' is the last Metroid in the galaxy. The only difference is that Samus' selfless parental relationship with the baby led to it sacrificing its life for her, while Raven's selfish relationship with Samus led to her fighting and killing him. Something something don't abuse your children something.
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* As a RewatchBonus, it becomes more and more clear over the course of the game that ADAM is not himself. This culminates near the end, where he begins addressing Samus as "Samus Aran" and tells her to "fulfill her destiny". The real ADAM is much more familiar with Samus than that - it's clearly shown in the opening cutscene. He challenges Samus about the pay for the job, and even calls her Lady. Raven Beak would never do such things.
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* ADAM treats the E.M.M.I. zones like it's a natural part of the E.M.M.I. even though the first E.M.M.I. is encountered outside of the zone and it's evident that the E.M.M.I. zones was something created by Raven Beak rather than the Galactic Federation. This is one of your earliest hint you are not talking to ADAM at all, but rather Raven Beak.

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* ADAM treats the E.M.M.I. zones like it's a natural part of the E.M.M.I. protocol even though the first E.M.M.I. is encountered outside of the zone and it's evident that the E.M.M.I. zones was something were created by Raven Beak rather than the Galactic Federation. This is one of your earliest hint you are not talking to ADAM at all, but rather Raven Beak.
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** The Core-X that used to be Experiment No. Z-57 dunks itself into lava to avoid being absorbed by Samus. Letting itself seemingly die is behaviour completely antithetical to the X, so why did it do that? [[spoiler:At the end of the game, a purple X takes over Raven Beak and mutates into a mishmash of every boss Samus faced - including Kraid, who was also fought in a lava-filled area, and also fell into it at the end of his boss fight. The Core-X probably finds Kraid's remains in the lava and absorbs them to become stronger.]]
** Then there’s the matter of [[spoiler:the X-possessed Quiet Robe. It waits inside Samus' own ship - the ONLY way off the planet that's about to explode - and simply just appears behind her when she makes it back. Instead of commandeering the ship or attacking her, it lets her absorb it. The brilliance kicks in when you recall the game’s intro - it states X can absorb and recall their hosts memories. (Though it is stated that they can only do this when the host is alive, it wouldn’t be the first time assumptions have been made about the X and found to be wrong.) Quiet Robe’s memories and desire to aid Samus thus overpower the X’s survival instincts long enough for the X Parasite, and the Thoha tribe’s innate ability to control Metroids, to be absorbed into Samus so she could seal off her life-draining powers and be able to escape the exploding ZDR.]]

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** The Core-X that used to be Experiment No. Z-57 dunks itself into lava to avoid being absorbed by Samus. Letting itself seemingly die is behaviour completely antithetical to the X, so why did it do that? [[spoiler:At At the end of the game, a purple X takes over Raven Beak and mutates into a mishmash of every boss Samus faced - including Kraid, who was also fought in a lava-filled area, and also fell into it at the end of his boss fight. The Core-X probably finds Kraid's remains in the lava and absorbs them to become stronger.]]
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** Then there’s the matter of [[spoiler:the the X-possessed Quiet Robe. It waits inside Samus' own ship - the ONLY way off the planet that's about to explode - and simply just appears behind her when she makes it back. Instead of commandeering the ship or attacking her, it lets her absorb it. The brilliance kicks in when you recall the game’s intro - it states X can absorb and recall their hosts memories. (Though it is stated that they can only do this when the host is alive, it wouldn’t be the first time assumptions have been made about the X and found to be wrong.) Quiet Robe’s memories and desire to aid Samus thus overpower the X’s survival instincts long enough for the X Parasite, and the Thoha tribe’s innate ability to control Metroids, to be absorbed into Samus so she could seal off her life-draining powers and be able to escape the exploding ZDR.]]
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* It seems strange that the E.M.M.I., designed by the Galactic Federation to the ultimate field DNA extractor, would have designated E.M.M.I. zones that they cannot patrol outside of. It defeats the whole purpose of exploring and it raises question as to how these zones were set up if ZDR was a recently discovered planet. But when Quiet Robe reveals that Raven Beak reprogrammed the E.M.M.I. to extract Samus's DNA, it suddenly starts to make more sense. The E.M.M.I. zones were not part of the Federation protocol, but rather something that Raven Beak created for the E.M.M.I. robots. But why would he limit the E.M.M.I. to these zones? Because Raven Beak wants to make Samus grow more powerful so that her Metroid DNA will realize its full potential, and so he gives her a fighting chance.
* ADAM treats the E.M.M.I. zones like it's a natural part of the E.M.M.I. even though the first E.M.M.I. is encountered outside of the zone and it's evident that the E.M.M.I. zones was something created by Raven Beak rather than the Galactic Federation. This is one of your earliest hint you are not talking to ADAM at all, but rather Raven Beak.
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* The BagOfSpilling effect that happens right at the start of the game makes even more sense when you realize that as a senior Warrior Chozo, Raven Beak would have access to command codes that he could use to lock Samus out of using her powerups, at least until she finds replacement copies that haven't been sealed out by him. Chozo DRM is serious business.

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* The behaviour of some the Core-X can become this: One Core-X dunks itself into lava to avoid being absorbed by Samus, which means it probably finds Kraid's remains in there and comes back as Raven Beak-X, And Quiet Robe-X waits inside Samus's OWN SHIP - the ONLY way off the planet that's about to explode - and simply just appears behind her when she makes it back.... And then lets her absorb it because the ability Samus would aquire from Quiet Robe-X is "The ability to controll Metroids via specific Chozo DNA", which would awaken Samus's OTHER Chozo Donor genes and thus eliminate the Metroid threat (an X's highest priority - X ARE capabale of sacraficing themselves as seen in Fusion with Cold-X delibereatly freezing themselves to sub-zero temperatures so Samus takes damage if she absorbs them).

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* The behaviour of some specific X Parasites seems off at first, until you reach the end of the game
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Core-X can become this: One Core-X that used to be Experiment No. Z-57 dunks itself into lava to avoid being absorbed by Samus, which means Samus. Letting itself seemingly die is behaviour completely antithetical to the X, so why did it do that? [[spoiler:At the end of the game, a purple X takes over Raven Beak and mutates into a mishmash of every boss Samus faced - including Kraid, who was also fought in a lava-filled area, and also fell into it at the end of his boss fight. The Core-X probably finds Kraid's remains in there the lava and comes back as Raven Beak-X, And absorbs them to become stronger.]]
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Quiet Robe-X Robe. It waits inside Samus's OWN SHIP Samus' own ship - the ONLY way off the planet that's about to explode - and simply just appears behind her when she makes it back.... And then back. Instead of commandeering the ship or attacking her, it lets her absorb it because it. The brilliance kicks in when you recall the ability game’s intro - it states X can absorb and recall their hosts memories. (Though it is stated that they can only do this when the host is alive, it wouldn’t be the first time assumptions have been made about the X and found to be wrong.) Quiet Robe’s memories and desire to aid Samus would aquire from Quiet Robe-X is "The thus overpower the X’s survival instincts long enough for the X Parasite, and the Thoha tribe’s innate ability to controll Metroids via specific Chozo DNA", which would awaken Samus's OTHER Chozo Donor genes and thus eliminate the Metroid threat (an X's highest priority - X ARE capabale of sacraficing themselves as seen in Fusion with Cold-X delibereatly freezing themselves control Metroids, to sub-zero temperatures so be absorbed into Samus takes damage if so she absorbs them).could seal off her life-draining powers and be able to escape the exploding ZDR.]]
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* The behaviour of some the Core-X can become this: One Core-X dunks itself into lava to avoid being absorbed by Samus, which means it probably finds Kraid's remains in there and comes back as Raven Beak-X, And Quiet Robe-X waits inside Samus's OWN SHIP - the ONLY way off the planet that's about to explode - and simply just appears behind her when she makes it back.... And then lets her absorb it because the ability Samus would aquire from Quiet Robe-X is "The ability to controll Metroids via specific Chozo DNA", which would awaken Samus's OTHER Chozo Donor genes and thus eliminate the Metroid threat (an X's highest priority - X ARE capabale of sacraficing themselves as seen in Fusion with Cold-X delibereatly freezing themselves to sub-zero temperatures so Samus takes damage if she absorbs them).
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** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans destructive]] [[OrderVersusChaos ideals]] from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]

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** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending cutscene before the final boss reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans destructive]] [[OrderVersusChaos ideals]] from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]
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** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her destructive ideals from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]

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** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her destructive ideals [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans destructive]] [[OrderVersusChaos ideals]] from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]
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* Raven Beak claiming that he is [[LukeIAmYourFather Samus' father]] because he ''contributed'' to the DNA enhancements the Zebes Chozo did after Samus was born is a bit of a stretch. He's not the only donor, and Samus didn't personally know him until ZDR. Thing is, ''that's the point;'' Raven Beak is such an egomaniac that he assumes that ''any'' of his DNA means all the other Chozo don't count, and he's trying to [[ManipulativeBastard screw with Samus]] even after it's revealed he was hijacking ADAM. Of course he's going to claim that, in order to establish an emotional hold on Samus - which ''does not work'', because if anything, Samus is personally offended by the implication [[GoodParents Old Bird]] was less of a father than Raven Beak is, and insults the memory of Grey Voice, a genetic contributor who [[HeroicSacrfice gave his life]] to save her. No wonder she comes to personally hate him by the end of the game.

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* Raven Beak claiming that he is [[LukeIAmYourFather Samus' father]] because he ''contributed'' to the DNA enhancements the Zebes Chozo did after Samus was born is a bit of a stretch. He's not the only donor, and Samus didn't personally know him until ZDR. Thing is, ''that's the point;'' Raven Beak is such an egomaniac that he assumes that ''any'' of his DNA means all the other Chozo don't doesn't count, and he's trying to [[ManipulativeBastard screw with Samus]] even after it's revealed he was hijacking ADAM. Of course he's going to claim that, in order to establish an emotional hold on Samus - which ''does not work'', because if anything, Samus is personally offended by the implication [[GoodParents Old Bird]] was less of a father than Raven Beak is, and insults the memory of Grey Voice, a genetic contributor who [[HeroicSacrfice [[HeroicSacrifice gave his life]] to save her. No wonder she comes to personally hate him by the end of the game.
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* Raven Beak claiming that he is [[LukeIAmYourFather Samus' father]] because he ''contributed'' to the DNA enhancements the Zebes Chozo did after Samus was born is a bit of a stretch. He's not the only donor, and Samus didn't personally know him until ZDR. Thing is, ''that's the point;'' Raven Beak is such an egomaniac that he assumes that ''any'' of his DNA means all the other Chozo don't count, and he's trying to [[ManipulativeBastard screw with Samus]] even after it's revealed he was hijacking ADAM. Of course he's going to claim that, in order to establish an emotional hold on Samus - which ''does not work'', because if anything, Samus is personally offended by the implication [[GoodParents Old Bird]] was less of a father than Raven Beak is, and insults the memory of Grey Voice, a genetic contributor who [[HeroicSacrfice gave his life]] to save her. No wonder she comes to personally hate him by the end of the game.
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** Raven's brutal disposition, his association with the colors purple and red, disregard for his own men, and his growing wings in the second phase harken heavily to '''''[[ArchEnemy the cunning god of death himself.]]''''' Raven Beak is more or less a twisted combination of the Chozo, a race she loves and was raised by; and Ridley, the one creature she despises the most for destroying her childhood.
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Raven Beak wants to use the Metroids to bring order to the galaxy and [[WeCanRuleTogether tries to convince]] Samus to join him ForTheGreaterGood. He even invokes the LukeIAmYourFather card on her to sweeten the deal. If this all sounds familiar before, it's because another ''Metroid'' villain had said the same thing to Samus years ago: '''[[Manga/MetroidManga MOTHER BRAIN]]'''. Raven Beak is essentially Mother Brain as a powerful Chozo.
*** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her destructive ideals from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]

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Raven *Raven Beak wants to use the Metroids to bring order to the galaxy and [[WeCanRuleTogether tries to convince]] Samus to join him ForTheGreaterGood. He even invokes the LukeIAmYourFather card on her to sweeten the deal. If this all sounds familiar before, it's because another ''Metroid'' villain had said the same thing to Samus years ago: '''[[Manga/MetroidManga MOTHER BRAIN]]'''. Raven Beak is essentially Mother Brain as a powerful Chozo.
*** ** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her destructive ideals from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]
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Raven Beak wants to use the Metroids to bring order to the galaxy and [[WeCanRuleTogether tries to convince]] Samus to join him ForTheGreaterGood. He even invokes the LukeIAmYourFather card on her to sweeten the deal. If this all sounds familiar before, it's because another ''Metroid'' villain had said the same thing to Samus years ago: '''[[Manga/MetroidManga MOTHER BRAIN]]'''. Raven Beak is essentially Mother Brain as a powerful Chozo.
*** This has other interesting implications as well. The ending reveals Raven Beak lived for a time on Zebes when Samus was growing up. Where exactly did an AI like Mother Brain get her destructive ideals from? Who wants to bet Raven Beak spent time programming her to be like that... or perhaps even worse, [[TheCorruptor simply influencing her into that mindset with words alone.]]
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