History Fridge / GreenLantern

* In the [[Film/GreenLantern Film]], [[spoiler:Sinestro]] didn't steal the newly-forged Yellow Ring which Hal advised that no one should use... it broke out on its own and ''chose'' him.

* Kyle Rayner is the butt of a lot of jokes because his mask makes him look like a crab. But it serves it's purpose quite well of hiding Kyle's identity, as opposed to Hal's much less ridiculous looking mask, which makes him look like... Hal Jordan in a Domino mask, which was hilariously pointed out in the [[Film/GreenLantern 2011 film]].

** Or Dex-Starr was just "special" to begin with.
*** Considering it was Engrish, cats aren't as sapient as humans. Plus, [[HumansAreCthulhu cats see us as servants anyway.]]
*** Dex-Starr showed more intelligence than most Red Lanterns post-conversion, and certainly more control. It's possible Atrocitus boosted his intelligence the way he eventually did the other Red Lanterns, as Atrocitus clearly favors Dex-Starr.

** Debatable. Blue Lanterns can heal wounds and making a new heart should be child's play compared to reducing the age of a dying star.
*** In that case, let's hope they can keep [[spoiler: Atrocitus]] on life support the moment he gets out.
*** Turns out [[spoiler: he survives for quite some time, albeit with a good deal of pain, and he eventually gets the ring back before he can drop.]] Dude must have been taking lessons from "Hey I can talk without lungs" [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Lordgenome]].

** [[TheResenter Being outdone by a novice.]]
** That doesn't fit with, well, anything we see of Sinestro in the whole movie. This is a "novice" that he just said, in front of the rest of the Corps with a smile on his face, was a great guy. There is nothing, nothing at all in the whole movie, hinting that he might feel this way.
** Because for all his CharacterDevelopment, he's still an individual who thinks that with enough directed power you can overcome anything. And he's ''just seen'' what a powerful force fear can be... It's likely that in a Sinestro-based sequel or spin-off, he'd start off still relatively benevolent before [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope taking a swan-dive into villainy]].
** Sinestro spent all movie believing that Fear was stronger than Will, and that it was essentially an untapped resource; he believes that DarkIsNotEvil and plans to use Fear to fight evil as a WellIntentionedExtremist. He has witnessed his group of Green Lanterns (Will) being completely out-powered by Parallax (Fear) in a straight fight. Hal killed Parallax though trickery, not sheer strength.
** Sinestro is also the mastermind behind the yellow ring, or at least the one who encouraged the Guardians into its creation. It was his project, and from his point of view it's ''perfect'' and the Guardians are holding him back, and will probably have no reason to deploy it at all with Parallax gone. So, in frustration against the restraint and perceived weakness of the Guardians, Sinestro resolves to go it alone and use what he has (directly or indirectly) created.
** Perhaps Sinestro is also (more than) a little power-hungry, and as noted he sees Fear as more powerful than Will. He seems too eager to use the yellow ring, and ignore other options. He doesn't just want to see Parallax beaten, he wants to use the situation as an opportunity to "trade up" his ring.

** The Hector Hammond thing took on ultra-scary terms when you see him LITERALLY eating Hal's memories in ''Green Lantern'' (vol. 4) #62.

** Then again, sociopaths can hope, and in fictionland, they're such good manipulators...

* while online I found someone wondering why WellIntentionedExtremist Sinestro would recruit the likes of [[WouldHurtAChild Romat Ru]], [[ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight Kryb]], [[GodGuise Scivor]] or any of the other 7196 criminals and psychopaths that make up his corps of fear as opposed to [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] such as himself and then it hit me that that was the point, he gathered the most dangerous criminals in 3600 space sectors to make up the Sinestro Corps because those are the type of people who the guardians would be most likely to authorize lethal force against [[BatmanGambit just like Sinestro wanted]]

** Even funnier in that context, though probably more directly relevant to the sexist recruiting bias: we eventually learn that that Zamarons, the ''founders'' of the Star Sapphires, are an [[AlwaysFemale all-female]] race of [[Really700YearsOld immortals]]... who were in fact originally the females of Maltus - the ''same race'' that gave us the Oans aka Guardians of the Universe, [[FridgeBrilliance who were originally]] (before Kyle Rayner rebooted their species/Corps for them) ''conspicuously'' all male and depicted as [[TheSpock hyper-logical]]. The ones who became the Zamarons left because they thought [[ThePowerOfLove the men of their race were a bunch of emotion-rejecting idiots committing foolish "sacrilege"]] by trying to live without things like Love, while the males were happy to see them go for embracing [[LoveMakesYouCrazy such an unstable emotion in lieu of cool logic]]. Yes, that's right: the cultures of the Zamarons and the Oans are ''literally'' the Western [[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast stereotypes of men (logical to the point of insensitive) and women (the emotive ones/loving ones)]], and the Star Sapphires are prone to recruiting females because they ''[[DoesNotLikeMen no longer trust most men]]''. Interestingly, it's indicated that while the Violet Light of Love ''can'' make you nuts at its extremes (the Zamarons even eventually switch from crystals to Power Rings for recruitment because the gems were exerting too much influence over the hosts) going ''without'' love or compassion entirely can also make a strong-willed person dangerous as hell (see: Sinestro's fear-based fascism). So on a meta level the Star Sapphires vs Green Lantern Corps/Zamarons vs Oans thing? '''One giant {{Deconstruction}} of the BattleOfTheSexes.''' The answer to which is apparently that ''both'' sides are wrong when [[WellIntentionedExtremist taken to the extreme]]; the answer is a happy middle somewhere in between.

* Rage and Love are the most difficult emotions to control because they exert the most amount of influence on their wielders, and are also the most powerful. This is because two of the most difficult people to reason with, regardless of RealLife or fiction, are those who are madly in love (as they will dismiss any concerns one might have towards their target of affections, no matter how valid), and those who are consumed by anger (for the opposite reason of Love; where someone consumed by anger/hatred will brush off anything that makes their target of hatred/anger even remotely sympathetic and not deserving of their absolute fury). MadLove, RevengeBeforeReason, ThePowerOfLove, and ThePowerOfHate are all tropes for a reason.

* The ''GreenLantern: Rise of the Manhunters'' video game, in its loading screen will occasionally show a message along the lines of "The GreenLanternRing generates its bearer's costume, based upon physiology & culture", which just seems to be a note about every Lantern having a different costume. The FridgeBrilliance kicks in when you realize that there's a piece of free {{DLC}} available, which unlocks Hal's costume from the comics... or rather, unlocks a re-skin of his movie costume to resemble to one he wears in the comics. ''The ring is generating Hal's costume based upon if the player is more familiar with the comics or movie''.

** Even funnier in that context, though probably more directly relevant to the sexist recruiting bias: we eventually learn that that Zamarons, the ''founders'' of the Star Sapphires, are an [[AlwaysFemale all-female]] race of [[Really700YearsOld immortals]]... who were in fact originally the females of Maltus - the ''same race'' that gave us the Oans aka Guardians of the Universe, [[FridgeBrilliance who were originally]] (before Kyle Rayner rebooted their species/Corps for them) ''conspicuously'' all male and depicted as [[TheSpock hyper-logical]]. The ones who became the Zamarons left because they thought [[ThePowerOfLove the men of their race were a bunch of emotion-rejecting idiots committing foolish "sacrilege"]] by trying to live without things like Love, while the males were happy to see them go for embracing [[LoveMakesYouCrazy such an unstable emotion in lieu of cool logic]]. Yes, that's right: the cultures of the Zamarons and the Oans are ''literally'' the Western stereotypes of men (logical to the point of insensitive) and women (the emotive ones/loving ones), and the Star Sapphires are prone to recruiting females because they ''[[DoesNotLikeMen no longer trust most men]]''. Interestingly, it's indicated that while the Violet Light of Love ''can'' make you nuts at its extremes (the Zamarons even eventually switch from crystals to Power Rings for recruitment because the gems were exerting too much influence over the hosts) going ''without'' love or compassion entirely can also make a strong-willed person dangerous as hell (see: Sinestro's fear-based fascism). So on a meta level the Star Sapphires vs Green Lantern Corps/Zamarons vs Oans thing? '''One giant {{Deconstruction}} of the BattleOfTheSexes.''' The answer to which is apparently that ''both'' sides are wrong when [[WellIntentionedExtremist taken to the extreme]]; the answer is a happy middle somewhere in between.

* while online I found someone wondering why WellIntentionedExtremist Sinestro would recruit the likes of [[WouldHurtAChild Romat Ru]], [[ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight Kryb]], [[GodGuise Scivor]] or any of the other 7196 criminals and psychopaths that make up his corps of fear as opposed to [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] such as himself and then it hit me that that was the point, he gathered the most dangerous criminals in 3600 space sectors to make up the Sinestro Corps because that those are the type of people who the guardians would be most likely to authorize lethal force against [[BatmanGambit just like Sinestro wanted]]

* A sort of Meta-example, both of Briliance and Horror. The Blue Lantern Corps, and the Blue Rings of hope have so far been seen as the most benevolent Corps. When you look over at [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Warhammer Fantasy]], the God of Hope is [[GodIsEvil Tzeentch, a Lord of Chaos.]] Most of the Blue Lantern Corps individuals are religious and saintly, and hand-chosen by a member of the Corps. Considering that some folks are unfettered in attaining their hopes, this was a good idea, but what if a Blue ring chose someone unfettered...?

** Relic also shows us that the lightsmiths used different names for the emotions, its possible they are all emotions but are just improperly named , Greens emotion could be determination while oranges could be desire, or envy with the greed merely being a product of that desire to have what someone else does
* If the rings always know best whom to select for power (in fact, it is explicitly said to "never [make] mistakes"), how come they didn't see Sinestro's betrayal coming?

* If the rings always know best whom to select for power, how come they didn't see Sinestro's betrayal coming?

** Relic also shows us that the lightsmiths used different names for the emotions, its possible they are all emotions but are just improperly named , Greens emotion could be determination while oranges could be desire, or envy with the greed merely being a product of that desire to have what someone else does

** Relic also shows us that the lightsmiths used different names for the emotions, its possible they are all emotions but are just improperly named , Greens emotion could be determination while oranges could be desire, or envy with the greed merely being a product of that desire to have what someone else does
* If Carol Ferris herself can recognize that the Predator entity is not actually "preying" on anybody but in fact [[BlueAndOrangeMorality means well]] but is often [[AssimilationBackfire corrupted by its hosts]] in negative ways, and it's recognizably the "entity of Love"...why the hell has the name "the Predator" ''not'' yet been {{retcon}}ned to something with less UnfortunateImplications? Even the Star Sapphires, including Carol, failed to rename it, and they of all people should know it's not evil or "predatory"!
** because predators arent evil either, theres no malice in a predators actions, it is driven by hunger and instinct, similerly The Predator is not evil, but it is very dangerous, and a name like Predator makes that very clear so someone doesent try anything with it

* If Carol Ferris herself can recognize that the Predator entity is not actually "preying" on anybody but in fact [[BlueAndOrangeMorality means well]] but is often [[AssimilationBackfire corrupted by its hosts]] in negative ways, and it's recognizably the "entity of Love"...why the hell has the name "the Predator" ''not'' yet been {{retcon}}ned to something with less UnfortunateImplications? Even the Star Sapphires, including Carol, failed to rename it, and they of all people should know it's not evil or "predatory"!

* while online I found someone wondering why WellIntentionedExtremist Sinestro would recruit the likes of [[WouldHurtAChild Romat Ru]], [[ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight Kryb]], [[TheGodGuise Scivor]] or any of the other 7196 criminals and psychopaths that make up his corps of fear as opposed to NobleDemons such as himself and then it hit me that that was the point, he gathered the most dangerous criminals in 3600 space sectors to make up the Sinestro Corps because that those are the type of people who the guardians would be most likely to authorize lethal force against [[BatmanGambit just like Sinestro wanted]]

** The emotions in the spectrum aren't actual emotions as much as they are feelings. Greed isn't exactly an emotion but it is a strong desire to own something for yourself. Being greedy isn't a deliberate choice someone makes, it is a feeling you can't control based on emotions like envy. Compassion works similarly, being based on empathy which isn't an emotion itself but instead is the sharing of emotions. And willpower isn't an emotion at all but that is the point. The Guardians rejected emotions and settled on the most stable band in the spectrum. The seven emotions in the spectrum are all tied to emotions in different ways and this is reflected in their powers. Straightforward emotions like love and fear have powers similar to the straightforward willpower. Hope, the passive emotion, is itself mostly passive. Compassion uses empathy to replicate other powers. It all makes sense if you view the "emotional spectrum" label as a matter of convenience.

** Even funnier in that context, though probably more directly relevant to the sexist recruiting bias: we eventually learn that that Zamarons, the ''founders'' of the Star Sapphires, are an [[AlwaysFemale all-female]] race of [[Really700YearsOld immortals]]... who were in fact originally the females of Maltus. That is, they were the females of the same race that gave us the Oans aka Guardians of the Universe, who [[FridgeBrilliance were originally]] (before Kyle Rayner rebooted their species/Corps for them) ''conspicuously'' all male and depicted as [[TheSpock hyper-logical]]. The ones who became the Zamarons left precisely because they thought [[ThePowerOfLove the men of their race were a bunch of emotion-rejecting idiots committing foolish "sacrilege"]] by trying to live without things like Love, while the males were happy to see them go for embracing [[LoveMakesYouCrazy such an unstable emotion in lieu of cool logic]]. '''Yes, that's right: the cultures of Zamarons and the Oans are ''literally'' the Western stereotypes of men (logical to the point of insensitive) and women (the emotive ones/loving ones)''', and the Star Sapphires are arguably prone to recruiting females because they ''[[DoesNotLikeMen no longer trust men]]''. Interestingly, at many times (see: Sinestro's totalitarian fascism, or even Carol Ferris directly stating that Willpower on its own has often "failed" to do things right), it's indicated that while the Violet Light of Love can indeed make you nuts at its extremes, going without love or compassion entirely can make a strong-willed person dangerous as hell. So on a meta level The Sapphires vs Green Lantern Corps/Zamarons vs Oans thing? One giant concession that the BattleOfTheSexes is stupid and pointless, and there's validity in ''both'' perspectives so long they're not [[WellIntentionedExtremist taken to extremes]].

* During BlackestNight:

**** Turns out [[spoiler: he survives for quite some time, albeit with a good deal of pain, and he eventually gets the ring back before he can drop.]] Dude must have been taking lessons from "Hey I can talk without lungs" [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Lordgenome]].

* In the ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} era, the Green Lantern Corps is defunct because Mogo was destroyed. [[spoiler: [[MercyKill Guess]] [[FridgeHorror what]] [[OhCrap John Stewart]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero did.]] ]]

* A sort of Meta-example, both of Briliance and Horror. The Blue Lantern Corps, and the Blue Rings of hope have so far been seen as the most benevolent Corps. When you look over at WarhammerFantasy, the God of Hope is [[GodIsEvil Tzeentch, a Lord of Chaos.]] Most of the Blue Lantern Corps individuals are religious and saintly, and hand-chosen by a member of the Corps. Considering that some folks are unfettered in attaining their hopes, this was a good idea, but what if a Blue ring chose someone unfettered...?