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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy claims to be the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff and puberty in their friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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** The book is set inmind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While 1970 and while there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, blood; even Margaret said in (in the book book) that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, before and she could have possibly had discharge or something, and rather than a true period--and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that she really was getting her period. Which could This explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted panicked in the bathroom in New York when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy [[KnowNothingKnowItAll claims to be the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff and puberty in their friend group, group]], she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* In the film, early bloomer Laura looks and sounds like she could be Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico has the absolute lowest median puberty age on the planet. Hence that would be a likely explanation for Laura hitting puberty earlier than her classmates who grew up in the USA mainland.
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* In the film, early bloomer Laura Danker (played by older Isol Young) looks and sounds like she could be Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico has the absolute lowest median puberty age on the planet. Hence that would be planet, making a likely explanation for Laura hitting puberty earlier than her classmates who grew up in the USA mainland.white classmates.
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* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''
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* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people frequently spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, tween you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
*** FridgeBrilliance as it was set during the 1960s. The second wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex, and thus those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
*** FridgeBrilliance as it was set during the 1960s. The second wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex, and thus those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' Also, young girls who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. implies outside of her letting boys "do things" behind the A&P. It makes you wonder what they the girls think it is[[note]]worth is.[[note]]It's worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more know.[[/note]].
** More importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone couldbe.
*** FridgeBrilliance as itbe? Likely their own parents and older relatives. As the book was set during in 1970, the 1960s. The second wave of Feminism feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, present; society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex, and thus those it's likely girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
* ** There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread about her is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be is a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
** More importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could
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* In the film, early bloomer Laura looks and sounds like she could be Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico has the absolute lowest median puberty age in on the planet. Hence that would be a likely explanation for Laura hitting puberty earlier than her classmates who grew up in the USA mainland.
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** It's also plausible Nancy was just spotting at first; seeing tiny amounts of blood before her ''actual'' period started, and thinking it was the real deal. It's not unheard of for people to have a tiny amount of blood the first couple times, and to take a few months to get on a regular schedule and start bleeding the regular amount. Ergo, Nancy might've gotten a little speckle of blood, thought her period was starting, then went months with either very little bleeding each month or maybe even no bleeding at all, and then was caught completely off-guard by her first ''real'' period, which would have much more blood than she was used to.
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* In the film, early bloomer Laura looks and sounds like she could be Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico has the absolute lowest median puberty age in the planet. Hence that would be a likely explanation for Laura hitting puberty earlier than her classmates who grew up in the USA mainland.
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*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex and those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
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*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely set during the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd 1960s. The second wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex MadonnaWhoreComplex, and thus those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is claims to be the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff and puberty in the their friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, what exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
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* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.well.
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This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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This may go into WMG territory, but it's very possible that Nancy actually did think she had her period before she actually did. Keep in mind the setting of the book, late 60's/early 70's. While there were a few short films out about periods, none of them shown really shown visible blood, even Margaret said in the book that the film about periods that the class watched didn't show a girl getting her period. It's very possible that Nancy's family didn't talk about periods before, she could have possibly had discharge or something, and not knowing that periods are actually blood, probably thought that was her period. Which could explain why she was freaking out and almost fainted when she actually got her period, getting scared and thinking that she's sick. This all can be TruthInTelevision as girls who were not taught about periods could have similar experiences. The irony here is that while Nancy is the most knowledgeable about sexual stuff in the friend group, she had no idea how a period worked until it actually happened.
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*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex and those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
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*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex and those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]]]
* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
* There's likely another layer to Laura's problems as well, even if she doesn't say it. Having rumors spread is bad enough on its own, but Laura is ''Catholic'' and fairly devout, and the community she lives in seems to be a relatively small one, so it's likely that there's crossover between her school peers and people in her church. If those rumors gain traction with her church community, it could cause her to be shunned by the church community as well.
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
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** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.be.
*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex and those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
*** FridgeBrilliance as it was likely the 1969-1970 school year and the 2nd wave of Feminism was just starting and the awareness of SlutShaming wasn't really there, society was clinging even more (despite it being the Sexual Revolution) to the MadonnaWhoreComplex and those girls learned it from older relatives and adult figures. [[Theatre/SouthPacific You have to be carefully taught...]]
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** Even worse, ''adult male '''teachers'''''. Just think about that for a second.
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** Even worse, ''adult male '''teachers'''''. Just think about that for a second.second.
** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
** On the other hand, ''little girls'' who haven't gotten their periods (and who only know the most basic information about periods, puberty, and sex) are calling Laura a slut when they probably have no real concept of what that implies. It makes you wonder what they think it is[[note]]worth noting is that at one point Laura confronts Margaret about what, exactly she thinks Laura is doing, and Margaret doesn't actually know[[/note]], and more importantly, who taught them that it was the worst thing someone could be.
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** Even worse, ''adult male teachers''. Just think about that for a second.
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** Even worse, ''adult male teachers''.'''teachers'''''. Just think about that for a second.
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* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''
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* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''''
** Even worse, ''adult male teachers''. Just think about that for a second.
** Even worse, ''adult male teachers''. Just think about that for a second.
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* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''
* Laura, when ranting about how hard it is to develop breasts before your peers do, brings up that people spread rumors about her being a slut and messing around with teenage boys, and that male teachers stare at her. Reading the book as a tween, you feel bad for her, but when you re-read it as an adult, you feel bad for her and realize, ''oh my God, this girl is '''twelve''' and adult men are looking at her sexually.''
