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** All the guest rooms were upstairs. Wargrave's was the first room at the top of the stairs, as Legge and Maine note that the revolver was found just inside the door of the room at the top of the stairs-Wargrave's room. I don't recall any significance to room placement being discussed in the book. Maybe Wargrave did it since the "Owens" left exacting instructions for the Rogers', and felt that one of the things they'd be exacting about was a list of each room for each guest.

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** All the guest rooms were upstairs. Wargrave's was the first room at the top of the stairs, as Legge and Maine note that the revolver was found just inside the door of the room at the top of the stairs-Wargrave's room. I don't recall any significance to room placement being discussed in the book. Maybe Wargrave did it since the "Owens" left exacting instructions for the Rogers', and felt that one of the things they'd be exacting about was a list of each room for each guest.guest.
** Vera might also have been assigned that specific room due to the hook in the ceiling, since we don't know if any other room had that.
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While the record of missionaries in British colonies was...mixed, most of them insisted they were helping the natives by providing a higher level of civilization for their converts.

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** While the record of missionaries in British colonies was...mixed, most of them insisted they were helping the natives by providing a higher level of civilization for their converts.converts, as well as saving their souls. Emily Brent might also have believed in the idea that black men could be "redeemed" through faith, [[FairForItsDay which was a pretty enlightened view for the time]]. But this view also showcases Brent's hypocrisy, since she treated her own maid as damaged goods, contradicting her supposed belief in forgiveness and mercy.

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* Emily Brent having sympathy for the natives that Lombard betrayed makes sense for a few reasons.
** While Emily was definitely cruel to her maid, she wasn't the [[VillainyFreeVillain person who pulled the trigger]]. You don't need to be religious to hate murder, but Emily Brent would view any kind of murder as a violation of God's will.
While the record of missionaries in British colonies was...mixed, most of them insisted they were helping the natives by providing a higher level of civilization for their converts.
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* [[spoiler: The judge turning out to be the killer is a pretty good twist for several reasons]].
** [[spoiler: Nobody would ever suspect a judge, a man who is supposed to be reasonable and intelligent, to be capable of murder. In others, he's the one you'd least suspect]].
** [[spoiler: Also U.N. Owen's plan would require a tremendous degree of planning, intricate knowledge of crime and murder, and an understanding of the human psyche to pull off. A judge as old as Wargrave, who presided over numerous murder cases, would have that kind of knowledge of criminal behavior to pull off this kind of scheme]].
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*** Vera isn't alarmed because they all assume Armstrong took the seventh figure himself and disposed of it before going into hiding. Vera has dialogue where she says that she believes Armstrong took it and got rid of it to convince the other three that he was dead, and believes the "red herring" has to do with him NOT being dead. With that in mind, three is correct. They find Armstrong isn't the killer, then she shoots Lombard thinking HE'S the killer, and notes before she goes upstairs they're behind the times and breaks two herself.

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*** Vera isn't alarmed because they all assume Armstrong took the seventh figure himself and disposed of it before going into hiding. Vera has dialogue where she says that she believes Armstrong took it and got rid of it to convince the other three that he was dead, and believes the "red herring" has to do with him NOT being dead. With that in mind, three is correct. They find Armstrong isn't the killer, then she shoots Lombard thinking HE'S the killer, and notes before she goes upstairs they're behind the times and breaks two herself. If Wargrave had disposes of them before Vera arrived, she'd immediately realize that she wasn't the last one left alive on the island, thus Wargrave leaves them and Vera breaks them for him.
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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets a room which is upstairs and contains some seaweed (or how did this whole seaweed prank work?) Possibly having the bear clock specifically in Vera's room also mattered - to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.

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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets a room which is upstairs and contains some seaweed (or how did this whole seaweed prank work?) Possibly having the bear clock specifically in Vera's room also mattered - to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.though.
** All the guest rooms were upstairs. Wargrave's was the first room at the top of the stairs, as Legge and Maine note that the revolver was found just inside the door of the room at the top of the stairs-Wargrave's room. I don't recall any significance to room placement being discussed in the book. Maybe Wargrave did it since the "Owens" left exacting instructions for the Rogers', and felt that one of the things they'd be exacting about was a list of each room for each guest.
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*** Vera isn't alarmed because they all assume Armstrong took the seventh figure himself and disposed of it before going into hiding. Vera has dialogue where she says that she believes Armstrong took it and got rid of it to convince the other three that he was dead, and believes the "red herring" has to do with him NOT being dead. With that in mind, three is correct. They find Armstrong isn't the killer, then she shoots Lombard thinking HE'S the killer, and notes before she goes upstairs they're behind the times and breaks two herself.


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*** Don't forget, this was an autopsy done in 1939, not present day. I doubt Wargrave's autopsy would be anything more than cursory. He has a bullet wound in his forehead, and there are diary entries saying he was shot in the head. Wargrave's cause of death is pretty obvious. Why would the coroner go digging, especially when there were other victims with less-apparent causes of death to go through.


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*** Wargrave is unconcerned about how much blood they find in his room. He notes in his confession letter that the police will find him in his bed, shot through the head, in accordance with the diary entries. That indicates the diaries just mentioned he was dead, not where he was found. His only concern, as he states in the letter, is that the authorities find his body in his bead with the gunshot wound to the head.
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*** the illness would probably be detected in an autopsy, especially since the killer was too far advanced for treatment (and possibly the most socially prominent of the victims). Not to mention, an appeal to the public for information would prompt even a private doctor to contact the police - patient confidentiality doesn't outlive the patient.
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** Exactly. He is simply passing time on the train by admiring his work.
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*** Probably the latter then, since, as said before, with the apparent death of everyone but Vera and with seemingly no chance for anyone to have entered the house to remove the third figurine, it's rather, on the contrary, a "correct" number of figurines (two or one) that would/should have alerted Vera...

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*** Probably the latter then, since, as said before, with the apparent death of everyone but Vera and with seemingly no chance for anyone to have entered the house to remove the third figurine, it's rather, on the contrary, a "correct" number of figurines (two or one) that would/should have alerted alarmed Vera...
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*** Probably the latter then, since, as said before, with the apparent death of everyone but Vera and with seemingly no chance for anyone to have entered the house to remove the third figurine, it's rather, on the contrary, a "correct" number of figurines (namely, two) that would/should have alerted Vera...

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*** Probably the latter then, since, as said before, with the apparent death of everyone but Vera and with seemingly no chance for anyone to have entered the house to remove the third figurine, it's rather, on the contrary, a "correct" number of figurines (namely, two) (two or one) that would/should have alerted Vera...
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*** Probably the latter then, since, as said before, with the apparent death of everyone but Vera and with seemingly no chance for anyone to have entered the house to remove the third figurine, it's rather, on the contrary, a "correct" number of figurines (namely, two) that would/should have alerted Vera...
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*** It can be either / or, really; a clue for the characters (only they're too frazzled and frightened to pick up on it) ''and'' a clue for the readers (Dame Agatha essentially daring us to think a bit harder about why, if there are only two living suspects on the island, might there be ''three'' statuettes).
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* There's a perfectly valid Doylist reason why Narracott shouldn't have been alone while discovering the bodies. No, he obviously wouldn't have become a suspect, but the only piece of evidence that disqualifies Vera Claythorne from being U.N. Owen in the eyes of the police is that the chair she was standing on during the suicide was neatly put up against the wall. If there had been nobody to observe Narracott, the conclusion would have probably been that it had been him who moved the chair and then for some reason lied or genuinely forgot it.
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** And how did he react on learning that he himself unwittingly set U.N. Owen on her track? He said point blank that he still cared about her.
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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets a room which is upstairs and contains some seaweed (possibly the bear clock also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.

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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets a room which is upstairs and contains some seaweed (possibly (or how did this whole seaweed prank work?) Possibly having the bear clock specifically in Vera's room also mattered, mattered - to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.
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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets the room upstairs and with the seaweed (possibly the bear clock also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.

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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets the a room which is upstairs and with the contains some seaweed (possibly the bear clock also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.
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*** As a clue for whom, exactly? U.N. Owen giving Vera a last chance to realize something's wrong? Or you mean like a Doylist kind of clue just for us readers?

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*** **** As a clue for whom, exactly? U.N. Owen giving Vera a last chance to realize something's wrong? Or you mean like a Doylist kind of clue just for us readers?
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*** As a clue for whom, exactly? Last chance for Vera to realize something's wrong? Or you mean like a Doylist kind of clue just for us readers?

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*** As a clue for whom, exactly? Last U.N. Owen giving Vera a last chance for Vera to realize something's wrong? Or you mean like a Doylist kind of clue just for us readers?
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**** As a clue for whom, exactly? Last chance for Vera to realize something's wrong? Or you mean like a Doylist kind of clue just for us readers?
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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets the room with the seaweed (possibly the bear also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and to practice his suicide gun contraption beforehand (which was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.

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* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets the room upstairs and with the seaweed (possibly the bear clock also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room downstairs which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and to practice so that his suicide gun contraption would work exactly as practiced beforehand (which (since it was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.
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--> Constance Culmington, he reflected to himself, was exactly the kind of woman who ''would'' buy an island and surround herself in mystery. [[RewatchBonus Nodding in gentle approval of his logic]], Lawrence Wargrave allowed himself to drift to sleep.

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--> Constance Culmington, he reflected to himself, was exactly the kind of woman who ''would'' buy an island and surround herself in mystery. [[RewatchBonus Nodding in gentle approval of his logic]], Lawrence Wargrave allowed himself to drift to sleep.sleep.
* Why did U.N. Owen give clear instructions as to which guest should stay in which room? At least to ensure that 1) Vera gets the room with the seaweed (possibly the bear also mattered, to throw suspicion on her having arranged it as a trap in her own room); 2) Wargrave gets a room which he is most likely to enter and exit unnoticed at night, and to practice his suicide gun contraption beforehand (which was probably tailored to the specific room layout, by the look of things). Not sure if other locations had any significance though.
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*** It also serves as a clue that Vera and Lombard ''[[ForWantOfANail aren't the only two remaining]]''.
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* Vera's reactions to her mates' crimes are influenced by her own situation: she feels sorry for Beatrice, the pregnant maid who sinned "for love" just like her, and doesn't particularly care for the Africans, who were "a burden" just like Cyril.
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* Hugo had to break up with his psycho girlfriend knowing (or at least suspecting) she had no problems killing a child to get her way. The poor guy probably feared for his life, wondering how she would react to a rejection: we can hardly blame him for ghosting her as soon as the inquest ended - or for trying to drown his sorrows in alcohol.
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** By the way, it's strange that the police don't mention Constance at all...
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** By the way, it's strange that the police don't mention Constance at all - Dame Agatha must have totally forgotten about her :)
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**On the idea of clues, it seems all of the victims prior to Armstrong were put in their beds with sheets over them. In his confession, Wargrave makes no mention of jury rigging his suicide so that the sheet falls over his face, and it would seem problematic for the elastic-on-the-gun trick to work properly if he did. Perhaps the lack of a sheet might be a further tip off to the police?
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Moved the entries of the miniseries in the miniseries' own page.


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--> Constance Culmington, he reflected to himself, was exactly the kind of woman who ''would'' buy an island and surround herself in mystery. [[RewatchBonus Nodding in gentle approval of his logic]], Lawrence Wargrave allowed himself to drift to sleep.
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* At the climax, Wargrave delivers a MotiveRant to Vera while she's hanging precariously from the noose, in which he explains why he did what he did. Why? It could just be Wargrave wanting to reveal his perfect crime to someone before he dies, but there's another possible explanation. While begging for her life, Vera points out that there are no more bullets for Wargrave and offers to help him throw the blame on Lombard if he'll spare her. After Wargrave points out some possible holes in her proposed story, Vera assures him that "they believed me last time," and it's only ''after'' this that Wargrave pulls away the chair she's balanced on and leaves her to die. While Vera's crime is arguably the most abhorrent, it's also the most potentially ambiguous -- her story is very plausible, she's already been cleared by a coroner's court, her innocent act has been incredibly convincing ("Miss Claythorne, how beguiling you are!"), only two people know for sure exactly what happened in her case and one of them is dead. While he certainly suspects, Wargrave can't actually know for certain that it ''wasn't'' just a tragic accident in her case... until she herself tells him that it wasn't. Wargrave isn't just gloating or explaining the plot for the audience; he's baiting Vera so that he can confirm for himself that she ''is'' a murderer before he carries out her 'sentence'.
** Wargrave may also have had another reason to talk to Vera instead of simply letting her hang herself without interference linked to how guilty he found her. In the book, he says that he wanted to save the guiltiest people for last so that they would experience the greatest psychological torment and the most painful deaths. Vera had, in spite of everything that happened, managed to enter a strange sort of zen state where she believed herself to be the [[FinalGirl final surviving heroine]] who had bested the treacherous villain Lombard and would now [[FaceDeathWithDignity gracefully accept her fate to reunite with Cyril]], but Wargrave revealing himself to her destroyed that small bit of peace of mind and turned her into a pathetic, flailing woman who realized that she had made the worst decision possible in killing Lombard instead of listening to him, experienced a lengthy period of agony from the noose literally tightening around her neck as Wargrave talked to her, and only confirmed that she was a ManipulativeBitch who lied to everyone about Cyril's death and was willing to throw the man she had seemingly fallen in love with under the bus to save her life through her desperate attempts to bargain with Wargrave. By not letting Vera calmly hang herself and instead making it clear to her that she had ''not'' in fact "won", Wargrave both exposes Vera as the AssholeVictim she is ''and'' ensures that she suffers the most prolonged and painful death of the cast as the one he considered to be the guiltiest.
** And why is Vera Wargrave's "favourite"? Because she's both the worst murderer of the lot and is also the most convincing in her innocent act. It's far more satisfying to expose, break and destroy her than, say, Anthony Marston, a little brat who's too self-absorbed and narcissistic to even bother pretending he didn't do it.
*** One most convincing in her innocent act was probably Emily Brent, whou wouldn't even admit to herself her actions had anything to do with the girl's death. It might be symbolic that both Anthony's and Vera's victims were children.
*** But is that convincing, or is that just denial? Emily Brent might have convinced ''herself'' of her own innocence, but everyone else probably didn't have to spend very long with her to realise that there's more than a hint of smug self-righteousness, self-satisfaction and hypocrisy to her character.
* The use of "Soldier Boys" instead of "Indian" or "Nigger," and "Soldier Island," works so well in the series, and not only because it removes unnecessary, racist artifacts of the language. In the screenplay, the Great War looms over the entire cast like a stormcloud. Those who remember living and fighting in the war (especially Armstrong and Macarthur) are deeply scarred by it. The use of the world "Soldier" just brings this nightmare back to those that remember.
** It's not the only nightmarish war looming over events either, although the characters don't know it. [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII The story is set in late August 1939.]]
*** It ''is'' hinted at though, as when Lombard remarks: "there's always another war..."
* At the beginning of the series, Vera becomes uncomfortable with Lombard ogling her on the train and moves to sit in the same compartment as Wargrave. This cleverly foreshadows Vera's ultimate fate -- her distrust of Lombard in spite of their sexual attraction to each other causes her to abandon him and enter a place where Wargrave lies in wait.
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--> Constance Culmington, he reflected to himself, was exactly the kind of woman who ''would'' buy an island and surround herself in mystery. [[RewatchBonus Nodding in gentle approval of his logic]], Lawrence Wargrave allowed himself to drift to sleep.
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[[folder: 2015 television mini-series]]
[[AC: Fridge Brilliance]]
* At the climax, Wargrave delivers a MotiveRant to Vera while she's hanging precariously from the noose, in which he explains why he did what he did. Why? It could just be Wargrave wanting to reveal his perfect crime to someone before he dies, but there's another possible explanation. While begging for her life, Vera points out that there are no more bullets for Wargrave and offers to help him throw the blame on Lombard if he'll spare her. After Wargrave points out some possible holes in her proposed story, Vera assures him that "they believed me last time," and it's only ''after'' this that Wargrave pulls away the chair she's balanced on and leaves her to die. While Vera's crime is arguably the most abhorrent, it's also the most potentially ambiguous -- her story is very plausible, she's already been cleared by a coroner's court, her innocent act has been incredibly convincing ("Miss Claythorne, how beguiling you are!"), only two people know for sure exactly what happened in her case and one of them is dead. While he certainly suspects, Wargrave can't actually know for certain that it ''wasn't'' just a tragic accident in her case... until she herself tells him that it wasn't. Wargrave isn't just gloating or explaining the plot for the audience; he's baiting Vera so that he can confirm for himself that she ''is'' a murderer before he carries out her 'sentence'.
** Wargrave may also have had another reason to talk to Vera instead of simply letting her hang herself without interference linked to how guilty he found her. In the book, he says that he wanted to save the guiltiest people for last so that they would experience the greatest psychological torment and the most painful deaths. Vera had, in spite of everything that happened, managed to enter a strange sort of zen state where she believed herself to be the [[FinalGirl final surviving heroine]] who had bested the treacherous villain Lombard and would now [[FaceDeathWithDignity gracefully accept her fate to reunite with Cyril]], but Wargrave revealing himself to her destroyed that small bit of peace of mind and turned her into a pathetic, flailing woman who realized that she had made the worst decision possible in killing Lombard instead of listening to him, experienced a lengthy period of agony from the noose literally tightening around her neck as Wargrave talked to her, and only confirmed that she was a ManipulativeBitch who lied to everyone about Cyril's death and was willing to throw the man she had seemingly fallen in love with under the bus to save her life through her desperate attempts to bargain with Wargrave. By not letting Vera calmly hang herself and instead making it clear to her that she had ''not'' in fact "won", Wargrave both exposes Vera as the AssholeVictim she is ''and'' ensures that she suffers the most prolonged and painful death of the cast as the one he considered to be the guiltiest.
** And why is Vera Wargrave's "favourite"? Because she's both the worst murderer of the lot and is also the most convincing in her innocent act. It's far more satisfying to expose, break and destroy her than, say, Anthony Marston, a little brat who's too self-absorbed and narcissistic to even bother pretending he didn't do it.
*** One most convincing in her innocent act was probably Emily Brent, whou wouldn't even admit to herself her actions had anything to do with the girl's death. It might be symbolic that both Anthony's and Vera's victims were children.
*** But is that convincing, or is that just denial? Emily Brent might have convinced ''herself'' of her own innocence, but everyone else probably didn't have to spend very long with her to realise that there's more than a hint of smug self-righteousness, self-satisfaction and hypocrisy to her character.
* The use of "Soldier Boys" instead of "Indian" or "Nigger," and "Soldier Island," works so well in the series, and not only because it removes unnecessary, racist artifacts of the language. In the screenplay, the Great War looms over the entire cast like a stormcloud. Those who remember living and fighting in the war (especially Armstrong and Macarthur) are deeply scarred by it. The use of the world "Soldier" just brings this nightmare back to those that remember.
** It's not the only nightmarish war looming over events either, although the characters don't know it. [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII The story is set in late August 1939.]]
*** It ''is'' hinted at though, as when Lombard remarks: "there's always another war..."
* At the beginning of the series, Vera becomes uncomfortable with Lombard ogling her on the train and moves to sit in the same compartment as Wargrave. This cleverly foreshadows Vera's ultimate fate -- her distrust of Lombard in spite of their sexual attraction to each other causes her to abandon him and enter a place where Wargrave lies in wait.
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--> Constance Culmington, he reflected to himself, was exactly the kind of woman who ''would'' buy an island and surround herself in mystery. [[RewatchBonus Nodding in gentle approval of his logic]], Lawrence Wargrave allowed himself to drift to sleep.

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