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''Grumpy Old Men'' is a 1993 comedy starring Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. It features two, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin grumpy old men]], John Gustafson (Lemmon) and Max Goldman (Matthau) who've been neighbors for over 50 years and bickering for most of it, all the while ice fishing on the local lake and putting up with their kids (John's daughter Melanie, played by [[{{Creator/DarylHannah}} Daryl Hannah]], and Max's son Jacob, played by Kevin Pollak) and John's nonagenarian father (Burgess Meredith). Then the pair's lives are turned upside down by a new neighbor named Ariel (Ann-Margret), and their old feud goes all out to try and win her hand.

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''Grumpy Old Men'' is a 1993 comedy starring Jack Lemmon Creator/JackLemmon and Walter Matthau.Creator/WalterMatthau. It features two, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin grumpy old men]], John Gustafson (Lemmon) and Max Goldman (Matthau) who've been neighbors for over 50 years and bickering for most of it, all the while ice fishing on the local lake and putting up with their kids (John's daughter Melanie, played by [[{{Creator/DarylHannah}} Daryl Hannah]], and Max's son Jacob, played by Kevin Pollak) and John's nonagenarian father (Burgess Meredith). Then the pair's lives are turned upside down by a new neighbor named Ariel (Ann-Margret), and their old feud goes all out to try and win her hand.
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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Film/TheOddCoupleII'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]

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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', ''Film/GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Film/TheOddCoupleII'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]
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* BrickJoke: The dead fish in Max's truck

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* ShipperOnDeck: As much as he fights with Max, John seems perfectly okay with the idea of Max's son liking his (John's) daughter. Although that might just be because he hates Melanie's estranged husband.

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* ShipperOnDeck: As much as he fights with Max, John seems perfectly okay with the idea of Max's son liking his (John's) daughter. Although that might just be because he hates Melanie's estranged husband.husband, and knows that Jacob is a genuinely nice guy.
** Max is doing the same thing to Jacob about Melanie.
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* RefugeInAudacity: Ariel introduces herself to John in this way, stealing his mail, inviting herself over to his place, all to find out more about him. She gets away with it because she's gorgeous.
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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Film/TheOddCouple II'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]

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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Film/TheOddCouple II'', ''Film/TheOddCoupleII'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]
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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Theatre/TheOddCouple II'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]

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The movie's success spawned a sequel, ''GrumpierOldMen'', which gave Max a love interest in Maria (Creator/SophiaLoren), and revived the old Lemmon-Matthau tandem for one more run in the '90s, including movies such as ''The Grass Harp'', ''Out To Sea'', and ''Theatre/TheOddCouple ''Film/TheOddCouple II'', thirty years after their original movie together.[[note]]The presidential comedy ''Film/MyFellowAmericans'' was also supposed to feature the pair, but Matthau withdrew due to illness; James Garner took his place.[[/note]]
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* UglyGuyHotWife: John pokes fun at Max for being ugly and said that [[UglyGuysHotDaughter Jacob is lucky to inherit his Mom's looks]] rather than his father, otherwise he wouldn't be on the ballot for Mayor.
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* NiceJewishBoy: Max's son Jacob is this trope, he is running for Mayor and the StraightMan to his Father regarding the pranks Max and John pull on one another, and is quite the stand up guy.
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* HollywoodHeartAttack: John has one to start out the third act, outside in the snow, all alone.

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* HollywoodHeartAttack: John [[spoiler:John]] has one to start out the third act, outside in the snow, all alone.
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* HollywoodHeartAttack: John has one to start out the third act, outside in the snow, all alone.
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* ShipperOnDeck: As much as he fights with Max, John seems perfectly okay with the idea of Max's son liking his (John's) daughter. Although that might just be because he hates Melanie's estranged husband.
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-->'''Snyder:''' Ha ha! ''(under his breath)'' Asshole.

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-->'''Snyder:''' Ha ha! ''(under his breath)'' Asshole.Asshole.
* VitriolicBestBuds: Despite their incessant jabs at each other, John and Max are actually really old friends.
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* DisproportionateRetribution: Max destroys John's ice shanty because he thought John was stealing Ariel away from him like he did with May (who John says was no good for him anyway).
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** The outtakes during the credits roll highlights this, with his using fictional Hawaiian islands as a means of seduction (e.g. "Imakindakinky")
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: All of the bologna rhetoric that Max gives Henry Snydor (an IRS Agent) when questioned about the persisting absence of John Gustafson, even in front of him. The truth is, even as much as he hates him, Max is merciful enough to John to not turn him in right on the spot when trying to run away from them. Max lies to Snydor in front of John by telling him a bunch of insensible baloney where that John Gustafson is a totally insane psychopath to the point where he was always busy hanging around men's strip joints whenever he's on medication, where that without it walks around talking to the trees.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: All of the bologna rhetoric that Max gives Henry Snydor (an IRS Agent) when questioned about the persisting absence of John Gustafson, even in front of him. The truth is, even as much as he hates him, Max is merciful enough to John to not turn him in right on the spot when trying to run away from them. Max lies to Snydor in front of John by telling him a bunch of insensible baloney where that John Gustafson is a totally insane psychopath to the point where he was always busy hanging around men's strip joints whenever he's on medication, where that without it he walks around talking to the trees.trees. It is unquestionable as to whether or not Snydor buys it, because of his response. He however responds by giving them a number to contact him if they spot him. When he departs, John shows Max his disgust about what he said about him to cover up his identity, and Max finds it funny.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: All of the bologna rhetoric that Max gives Henry Snydor (an IRS Agent) when questioned about the persisting absence of John Gustafson, even in front of him. The truth is, even as much as he hates him, Max is merciful enough to John to not turn him in right on the spot when trying to run away from them. Max lies to Snydor in front of John by telling him a bunch of baloney where that John Gustafson is a totally insane psychopath who was always busy hanging around men's strip joints whenever he's on medication, where that without it he goes around talking to the trees.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: All of the bologna rhetoric that Max gives Henry Snydor (an IRS Agent) when questioned about the persisting absence of John Gustafson, even in front of him. The truth is, even as much as he hates him, Max is merciful enough to John to not turn him in right on the spot when trying to run away from them. Max lies to Snydor in front of John by telling him a bunch of insensible baloney where that John Gustafson is a totally insane psychopath who to the point where he was always busy hanging around men's strip joints whenever he's on medication, where that without it he goes walks around talking to the trees.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: All of the bologna rhetoric that Max gives Henry Snydor (an IRS Agent) when questioned about the persisting absence of John Gustafson, even in front of him. The truth is, even as much as he hates him, Max is merciful enough to John to not turn him in right on the spot when trying to run away from them. Max lies to Snydor in front of John by telling him a bunch of baloney where that John Gustafson is a totally insane psychopath who was always busy hanging around men's strip joints whenever he's on medication, where that without it he goes around talking to the trees.
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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex, even revealed clearly just by his radical remarks.

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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex, even revealed clearly just by his radical kinky remarks.
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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex just by his remarks.

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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex sex, even revealed clearly just by his radical remarks.
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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex.

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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex.sex just by his remarks.
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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread.

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* DirtyOldMan: Grandpa Gustafson had more {{Unusual Euphemism}}s for sex than your average {{Fark}} thread. In other words, when it comes to women and for an old man, he has an abnormally perverted obsession with sex.
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''Grumpy Old Men'' is a 1993 comedy starring Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. It features two, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin grumpy old men]], John Gustafson (Lemmon) and Max Goldman (Matthau) who've been neighbors for over 50 years and bickering for most of it, all the while ice fishing on the local lake and putting up with their kids (John's daughter Melanie, played by [[{{Creator/DarylHannah}} Daryl Hannah]], and Max's son Jacob, played by Kevin Pollak) and John's nonagenarian father (Burgess Meredith). Then the pair's lives are turned upside down by a new neighbor named Ariel (Ann-Margaret), and their old feud goes all out to try and win her hand.

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''Grumpy Old Men'' is a 1993 comedy starring Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. It features two, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin grumpy old men]], John Gustafson (Lemmon) and Max Goldman (Matthau) who've been neighbors for over 50 years and bickering for most of it, all the while ice fishing on the local lake and putting up with their kids (John's daughter Melanie, played by [[{{Creator/DarylHannah}} Daryl Hannah]], and Max's son Jacob, played by Kevin Pollak) and John's nonagenarian father (Burgess Meredith). Then the pair's lives are turned upside down by a new neighbor named Ariel (Ann-Margaret), (Ann-Margret), and their old feud goes all out to try and win her hand.
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--> '''Max''' (in a bathtub): If I had know there was gonna be a ''nude'' scene in this picture, I would've asked for another million.

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--> '''Max''' '''Jack Lemmon''' (in a bathtub): If I had know there was gonna be a ''nude'' scene in this picture, I would've asked for another million.

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: At the beginning of the movie, the two talk about what are comfortable ways to die. [[spoiler: John comments that strokes are terrible and he'd rather have a cardiac arrest any day. Guess what happens towards the end of the movie.]]



* HarsherInHindsight: At the beginning of the movie, the two talk about what are comfortable ways to die. [[spoiler: John comments that strokes are terrible and he'd rather have a cardiac arrest any day. Guess what happens towards the end of the movie.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: At the beginning of the movie, the two talk about what are comfortable ways to die. [[spoiler: John comments that strokes are terrible and he'd rather have a cardiac arrest any day. Guess what happens towards the end of the movie.]]

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* TheReveal: Both movies have one:
** In the first, [[spoiler:John has a heart attack and is very weak in the hospital talking to Ariel. That's the last we see of him, up until the end, where Jake, Max, and John's dad talk reverently about him outside of a church, leading the viewer to believe he's dead. But then they pull off their coats inside to reveal tuxes; what the viewer believes is John's funeral is actually his wedding to Ariel.]]
** In the second, [[spoiler:Jake is ambivalent about marrying Melanie, but it appears that he finally decided to marry her in the end...until it's revealed at the church that the wedding isn't Jake and Melanie's, but Max's and Maria's. They even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade it]] by mentioning they eloped beforehand.]]

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* TheReveal: Both movies have one:
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[[spoiler:John has a heart attack and is very weak in the hospital talking to Ariel. That's the last we see of him, up until the end, where Jake, Max, and John's dad talk reverently about him outside of a church, leading the viewer to believe he's dead. But then they pull off their coats inside to reveal tuxes; what the viewer believes is John's funeral is actually his wedding to Ariel.]]
** In the second, [[spoiler:Jake is ambivalent about marrying Melanie, but it appears that he finally decided to marry her in the end...until it's revealed at the church that the wedding isn't Jake and Melanie's, but Max's and Maria's. They even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade it]] by mentioning they eloped beforehand.
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* MoodWhiplash: Does a serious turn when [[spoiler:Chuck dies]].
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-->'''Max Goldman:''' Good morning, dickhead. \\

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-->'''Max ->'''Max Goldman:''' Good morning, dickhead. \\

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