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* YourCheatingHeart: Maj. Barker had an affair with the wife of a general.
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* HistoryRepeats: The French were defeated at Muc Wa. The Americans say several time that they will not be defeated like them. They end up being defeated.
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* HistoryRepeats: The French were defeated at Muc Wa. The Americans say several time times that they will not be defeated like them. They end up being defeated.
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* {{Bunny ears lawyer}}: Wattsberg, who specializes in charts on enemy activity will occur is treated scornfully by Baker and Olivetti but his predictions prove to be utterly accurate, and he has enough knowledge of the ground to tell them when an important attack is upcoming.
{{cassandra truth}}/{{not now kiddo}}: Wattsberg and his predictions get a lot of this from Barker.
{{cassandra truth}}/{{not now kiddo}}: Wattsberg and his predictions get a lot of this from Barker.
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* {{Bunny ears lawyer}}: BunnyEarsLawyer: Wattsberg, who specializes in charts on enemy activity will occur is treated scornfully by Baker and Olivetti but his predictions prove to be utterly accurate, and he has enough knowledge of the ground to tell them when an important attack is upcoming.
{{cassandra truth}}/{{not now kiddo}}: * CassandraTruth: Wattsberg and his predictions get a lot of this from Barker.
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{{good is dumb}}: by-the-book Hamilton.
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* {{Mauve shirt}}: Ackley, the only one of the five men initially on the mission who isn’t a newcomer and didn’t’ get an introduction scene, although nonetheless he has some characterization and survives.
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* {{Mauve shirt}}: MauveShirt: Ackley, the only one of the five men initially on the mission who isn’t a newcomer and didn’t’ didn’t get an introduction scene, although nonetheless he has some characterization and survives.
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* {{passed over promotion}}: it's noted that Hamilton is noted as being old for his rank.
* {{Politically incorrect hero}}: Oliezenski given his refusal to risk his life for any of the Asian soldiers.
”* PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
* {{Politically incorrect hero}}: Oliezenski given his refusal to risk his life for any of the Asian soldiers.
”* PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
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* {{passed over promotion}}: it's noted that PassedOverPromotion: Hamilton is noted as being old for his rank.
*{{Politically incorrect hero}}: Oliezenski PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Oleonowski given his refusal to risk his life for any of the Asian soldiers.
”* * PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
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* {{by the book cop}}: Hamilton is a by the book soldier.
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{{good is dumb}}: Hamilton.
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{{good is dumb}}: by-the-book Hamilton.
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* {{Bunny ears lawyer}}: Wattsberg, who specializes in charts on enemy activity will occur is treated scornfully by Baker and Olivetti but his predictions prove to be utterly accurate, and he has enough knowledge of the ground to tell them when an important attack is upcoming.
* {{by the book cop}}: Hamilton is a by the book soldier.
{{cassandra truth}}/{{not now kiddo}}: Wattsberg and his predictions get a lot of this from Barker.
* {{by the book cop}}: Hamilton is a by the book soldier.
{{cassandra truth}}/{{not now kiddo}}: Wattsberg and his predictions get a lot of this from Barker.
{{good is dumb}}: Hamilton.
* {{Mauve shirt}}: Ackley, the only one of the five men initially on the mission who isn’t a newcomer and didn’t’ get an introduction scene, although nonetheless he has some characterization and survives.
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* PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
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* {{passed over promotion}}: it's noted that Hamilton is noted as being old for his rank.
* {{Politically incorrect hero}}: Oliezenski given his refusal to risk his life for any of the Asian soldiers.
”* PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
* {{Politically incorrect hero}}: Oliezenski given his refusal to risk his life for any of the Asian soldiers.
”* PsychoForHire: Cpl. "Cowboy" enjoys torturing and killing people. He is a mercenary hired as an interpreter and an interrogation specialist by the Americans.
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* SouthernFriedPrivate: Hamilton is an officer version of this.
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* StressVomit: Lt. Hamilton vomits because he is shocked when Cowboy beheads a Viet Cong soldier.
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* AmbitionIsEvil: {{Averted|Trope}} for Hamilton and Olvietti, both of whom desire promotions but get portrayed fairly positively. What poor decisions they do make are unrelated to their desire to be promoted.
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* AmbitionIsEvil: {{Averted|Trope}} for Hamilton and Olvietti, Olivetti, both of whom desire promotions but get portrayed fairly positively. What poor decisions they do make are unrelated to their desire to be promoted.
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- ambition is evil- averted for Hamilton and Olvietti, Both of whom desire promotions but get portrayed fairly positively. What poor decisions they do make are unrelated to their desire to be promoted.
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- ambition is evil- averted for Hamilton and Olvietti, Both of whom desire promotions but get portrayed fairly positively. What poor decisions they do make are unrelated to their desire to be promoted.
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* UnbuiltTrope: As the more-or-less the first Hollywood film to seriously examine Vietnam, a lot of familiar Vietnam movie tropes make their first appearance here. You can find elements remarkably similar to ''Film/{{Platoon}}'', ''Film/FullMetalJacket'' and ''Film/ApocalypseNow''. If you didn't know it predated all of them, you'd be excused for assuming it was a FollowTheLeader attempt to piggyback on the success of those films.
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* UnbuiltTrope: As the more-or-less the first Hollywood film to seriously examine Vietnam, a lot of familiar Vietnam movie tropes make their first appearance here. You can find elements remarkably similar to ''Film/{{Platoon}}'', ''Film/FullMetalJacket'' and ''Film/ApocalypseNow''. If you didn't know it predated all of them, you'd be excused for assuming it was a FollowTheLeader attempt to piggyback on the success of those films.
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* UnbuiltTrope: At times this film feels like ''Film/{{Platoon}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/FullMetalJacket'' with a pinch of ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', but it predates all of them.
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* UnbuiltTrope: At times this As the more-or-less the first Hollywood film feels like ''Film/{{Platoon}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] to seriously examine Vietnam, a lot of familiar Vietnam movie tropes make their first appearance here. You can find elements remarkably similar to ''Film/{{Platoon}}'', ''Film/FullMetalJacket'' with a pinch of ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', but and ''Film/ApocalypseNow''. If you didn't know it predates predated all of them.them, you'd be excused for assuming it was a FollowTheLeader attempt to piggyback on the success of those films.
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* WarWasBeginning: The film opens with some text explaining that the story takes place in the "advisory" period before the US began major operations in Vietnam.
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* WarWasBeginning: The film opens with some text explaining that the story takes place in the "advisory" period before the US began major operations in Vietnam.Vietnam, with the results of the First Indochina War (the defeat of the French and Communist forces gaining control of the northern part of the country) still looming large.
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1964: UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar is underway, but at this early stage of the conflict, US Army troops are still only considered to be "advisers" to the South Vietnamese Army. Major Barker (Lancaster) is ordered by his superiors to occupy Muc Wa, a deserted hamlet. A decade earlier, French troops suffered a major defeat at Muc Wa, and the thinking is that if the Americans can succeed where the French failed, it would be a major show of force. But with few competent soldiers available, Barker must send the only men he has at his disposal. He hopes that nothing will go wrong, because the place is of little strategic value. But in a conflict that has already turned into a quagmire, things aren't so easy.
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1964: UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar is underway, but at this early stage of the conflict, US Army troops are (which numbered around 16,000 at the time) were still only considered to be "advisers" to the South Vietnamese Army. Major Barker (Lancaster) is ordered by his superiors to occupy Muc Wa, a deserted hamlet. A decade earlier, French troops suffered a major defeat at Muc Wa, and the thinking is that if the Americans can succeed where the French failed, it would be a major show of force. But with few competent soldiers available, Barker must send the only men he has at his disposal. He hopes that nothing will go wrong, because the place is of little strategic value. But in a conflict that has already turned into a quagmire, things aren't so easy.
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* WarWasBeginning: The film opens with some text explaining that the story takes place in the "advisory" period before the US began major operations in Vietnam.
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* UnbuiltTrope: At times this film feels like ''Film/{{Platoon}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/FullMetalJacket'', but it predates both of them by about a decade.
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* UnbuiltTrope: At times this film feels like ''Film/{{Platoon}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/FullMetalJacket'', ''Film/FullMetalJacket'' with a pinch of ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', but it predates both all of them by about a decade.them.