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* ToAbsentFriends: Parodied somewhat, when the emotional ex-husband of Warren Schmidt's daughter's fiance's mother gets up to give a speech at the restaurant table. "If only my parents were with us today... but they are really here... right now... hi, Mom... hiya, pop..." Most of the family watches him give his speech, while Warren's head rolls around in meds-induced ecstasy.

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* ToAbsentFriends: Parodied somewhat, when the emotional ex-husband of Warren Schmidt's daughter's fiance's mother gets up to give a speech at the restaurant table. "If only my parents were with us today... but they are really here... right now... hi, Mom... hiya, pop..." Most of the family watches him give his speech, while Warren's head rolls around in meds-induced medication-induced ecstasy.



* WhiteGuilt: Warren is first seen listening to RushLimbaugh. He travels around and expresses in amazement that Native Americans got a "raw deal", though his DullSurprise makes it an {{Understatement}}.

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* WhiteGuilt: Warren is first seen listening to RushLimbaugh. Creator/RushLimbaugh. He travels around and expresses in amazement that Native Americans got a "raw deal", though his DullSurprise makes it an {{Understatement}}. deal".
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''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring Creator/JackNicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

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''About Schmidt'' is a 2002 drama movie directed by Creator/AlexanderPayne and starring Creator/JackNicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

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* FanDisservice: If there are still people out there who think Nicholson is still sexy: hot tub scene.
** Um... surely Kathy Bates drops a lot more jaws in this scene??

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* FanDisservice: If there are still people out there who think Nicholson is still sexy: Roberta (Creator/KathyBates) trying to seduce Schmidt in a hot tub scene.
** Um... surely Kathy Bates drops a lot more jaws in this scene??
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* DespairEventHorizon: Warren's speech just before receiving the letter.
-->'''Warren:''' ''(narrating)'' But what kind of difference have I made? What in the world is better because of me?... What difference has my life made to anyone? None that I can think of. None at all.
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* BlatantLies: Just when it seems like Warren is going to let loose ("You wanna know what I really think? What I '''''really''''' think?"), he chickens out and just blandly praises people that disgust him.
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* TranquilFury: Warren is told (accurately) that after the death of his wife, he isn't mourning or sad - he's angry, at the whole world.
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* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Warren is the poster child for the idiom "most men lead lives of quiet desperation." He muses that when he was young, he thought he was going to be a famed pillar of industry, and the rest of the film is him trying to remain relevent to ''somebody'', and finding after he's died, no one will remember him.
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* SocietyMarchesOn: InUniverse. For example, Warren's old fraternity used to be all-white. Now, he pontificates to frat brothers, one of whom is Asian.
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* WhiteGuilt: Warren is first seen listening to RushLimbaugh. He travels around and expresses in amazement that Native Americans got a "raw deal", though his DullSurprise makes it an {{Understatement}}.
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** Woodmen of the World and Plan USA, of course - the latter had a ColbertBump after the film was released.

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** Woodmen of the World and Plan USA, of course - the latter had a ColbertBump after the film was released. [[invoked]]
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* ProductPlacement
** When Warren's daughter and son-in-law are at the Denver airport to catch a flight to Omaha they are at a gate clearly marked with Midwest Express airline logos. While it would have been possible to fly that route on Midwest Express, doing so would have required an out-of-the-way routing through Milwaukee. United and Frontier airlines would have offered direct flights that probably would have been considerably less expensive (Frontier has since acquired Midwest Express).
** Woodmen of the World and Plan USA, of course - the latter had a ColbertBump after the film was released.
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* {{Irony}}: Warren notes that his old home, which is now a tire store, used to have a tire swing.
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* AnAesop: You can still matter to ''some''body.
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''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring JackNicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

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''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring JackNicholson, Creator/JackNicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?
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* UsefulNotes/AcademyAward: Jack Nicholson in a dramatic portrayal? More like [[AwardBait Academy Award Bait]].
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* ActorAllusion: Although Nicholson deliberately suppresses his usual persona to play the downtrodden Schmidt, in one of the letter-writing scenes he talks about how he once dreamed of starting a Fortune 500 company and an imaginary magazine cover is shown with the headline "Warren Schmidt raises the stakes - and some eyebrows" with a picture of him doing so himself, looking a bit more like a typical Jack Nicholson character.



* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tire shop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tire shop 'Warren' visits. This is common for Alexander Payne, who feels real employees add a level of authenticity in those roles actors cannot.



* PlayingAgainstType: Completely with Jack Nicholson. One of the most magnetic movie superstars plays a boring, repressed man who's led a dull, somewhat wasted life. With a comb-over. And we see him really letting himself go once his [[spoiler:wife dies]] This is one film where you cannot accuse him of playing Jack Nicholson.
* TheRedStapler: You might guess Childreach had a massive spike in donations after the film was released.
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* RealityHasNoSoundtrack: Has no non-diegetic music.
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* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tire shop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tire shop 'Warren' visits.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tire shop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tire shop 'Warren' visits. This is common for Alexander Payne, who feels real employees add a level of authenticity in those roles actors cannot.
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* AcademyAward: Jack Nicholson in a dramatic portrayal? More like [[AwardBait Academy Award Bait]].

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* AcademyAward: UsefulNotes/AcademyAward: Jack Nicholson in a dramatic portrayal? More like [[AwardBait Academy Award Bait]].
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* RealityHasNoSoundtrack: Has no non-diegetic music.
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The kind of movie you see late at night on comedy central. You keep thinking: "When does this movie become funny.", until you realize it is in fact not a comedy, but a drama. And then you continue to watch it anyway.

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The This is the kind of movie you see late at night on comedy central. Creator/ComedyCentral. You keep thinking: "When does this movie become funny.", funny?", until you realize it is in fact not a comedy, but a drama. And then you continue to watch it anyway.
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The kind of movie you see late at night on comedy central. You keep thinking: "When does this movie become funny.", until you realize it is in fact not a comedy, but a drama. And then you continue to watch it anyway.

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The This is the kind of movie you see late at night on comedy central. Creator/ComedyCentral. You keep thinking: "When does this movie become funny.", funny?", until you realize it is in fact not a comedy, but a drama. And then you continue to watch it anyway.
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* BittersweetEnding: It's either this, or a TearJerker. Is Schmidt cluthing on the letter from Ndugu's caretaker as a last resort, or is it genuinly worth sticking around for?
* ButIDigress: When requested to write a brief letter to Ndugu, the poor African child he has decided to sponsor, Schmidt begins by saying a few things about himself, including having a brother who lost a leg to diabetes, and soon ends up pouring his heart out about all the disappointments in his life; his aging wife who he can't stand anymore, his seemingly ungrateful former employers replacing him with someone much younger and less experienced, and his daughter getting engaged to a man he doesn't approve of. Eventually he decides to wrap it up so Ndugu can go off and spend the money he's sent to him (of course where Ngudu lives there can't be many shops). These "Dear Ndugu" letters are used at various points in the film as a device to summarise what Schmidt's been up to and for him to reflect on things. Quite what Ndugu or whoever ends up reading them will make of all this is anyone's guess.

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* BittersweetEnding: It's either this, or a TearJerker. Is Schmidt cluthing holding on to the letter from Ndugu's caretaker as a last resort, or is it genuinly genuinely worth sticking around for?
* ButIDigress: When requested to write a brief letter to Ndugu, the poor African child he has decided to sponsor, Schmidt begins by saying a few things about himself, including having a brother who lost a leg to diabetes, and soon ends up pouring his heart out about all the disappointments in his life; his aging wife who he can't stand anymore, his seemingly ungrateful former employers replacing him with someone much younger and less experienced, and his daughter getting engaged to a man he doesn't approve of. Eventually he decides to wrap it up so Ndugu can go off and spend the money he's sent to him (of course where Ngudu Ndugu lives there can't be many shops). These "Dear Ndugu" letters are used at various points in the film as a device to summarise summarize what Schmidt's been up to and for him to reflect on things. Quite what Ndugu or whoever ends up reading them will make of all this is anyone's guess.



* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tireshop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tireshop 'Warren' visits.
* FanDisservice: If there are still people out there who think Nicholson is still sexy: hottub scene.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tireshop tire shop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tireshop tire shop 'Warren' visits.
* FanDisservice: If there are still people out there who think Nicholson is still sexy: hottub hot tub scene.



* FlyoverCountry: Like Payne's previous two films, this film was shot in Omaha, Nebraska. And instead of flying, Schmidt decides to use his new, oversized Winnebago to drive to Denver for his daughter's wedding, and we see countryside that would normally be missed by air travellers.

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* FlyoverCountry: Like Payne's previous two films, this film was shot in Omaha, Nebraska. And instead of flying, Schmidt decides to use his new, oversized Winnebago to drive to Denver for his daughter's wedding, and we see countryside that would normally be missed by air travellers.travelers.



* NonNudeBathing: Warren during the hottub scene, ''in some edits''. Randall's mother.
* PlayingAgainstType: Completely with Jack Nicholson. One of the most magnetic movie superstars plays a boring, repressed man who's led a dull, somewhat wasted life. With a combover. And we see him really letting himself go once his [[spoiler:wife dies]] This is one film where you cannot accuse him of playing Jack Nicholson.

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* NonNudeBathing: Warren during the hottub hot tub scene, ''in some edits''. Randall's mother.
* PlayingAgainstType: Completely with Jack Nicholson. One of the most magnetic movie superstars plays a boring, repressed man who's led a dull, somewhat wasted life. With a combover.comb-over. And we see him really letting himself go once his [[spoiler:wife dies]] This is one film where you cannot accuse him of playing Jack Nicholson.



* ToAbsentFriends: Parodied somewhat, when the emotional ex-husband of Warren Schmidt's daughter's fiance's mother gets up to give a speech at the restaurant table. "If only my parents were with us today... but they are really here... right now... hi, Mom... hiya, pop..." Most of the family watches him give his speech, while Warren's head rolls around in meds-induced ecstacy.

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* ToAbsentFriends: Parodied somewhat, when the emotional ex-husband of Warren Schmidt's daughter's fiance's mother gets up to give a speech at the restaurant table. "If only my parents were with us today... but they are really here... right now... hi, Mom... hiya, pop..." Most of the family watches him give his speech, while Warren's head rolls around in meds-induced ecstacy.ecstasy.
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Deciding he had enough of just waiting for death to knock on his door, Schmidt embarks on a road trip to (stop!) his daughters wedding, visiting the places he frequented throughout his life on his way over there.

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Deciding he had enough of just waiting for death to knock on his door, Schmidt embarks on a road trip to (stop!) his daughters daughter's wedding, visiting the places he frequented throughout his life on his way over there.
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As he goes out one day, mulling about his wife he annoys him to no end, he returns to find that his wife has died from a blod clot in her upstairs department. Not much later, he finds some old love letters lying around the house. It turns out that his wife had an affair with his best friend, some 25 years earlier.

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As he goes out one day, mulling about his wife he annoys him to no end, wife, he returns to find that his wife has died from a blod clot in her upstairs department.dead of a blood clot. Not much later, he finds some old love letters lying around the house. It turns out that his wife had an affair with his best friend, some 25 years earlier.
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* StalkerWithoutACrush: Warren himself towards Jeannie.
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* ManlyTears: Warren himself at the end.



* YouCantGoHomeAgain: During one of his excursions on his way to his daughter's wedding, Schmidt goes to visit his childhood home from many years ago, only to find a tire shop now standing in its place. He still goes inside and tries to reminisce, to the bemusement of the clerk.

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* YouCantGoHomeAgain: During one of his excursions on his way to his daughter's wedding, Schmidt goes to visit his childhood home from many years ago, only to find a tire shop now standing in its place. He still goes inside and tries to reminisce, to the bemusement of the clerk.clerk.
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''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring Jack Nicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

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''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring Jack Nicholson, JackNicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

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Warren Schmidt just retired and has to face the fact that he has to spend his last remaining years on earth with his boring nagging wife. Out of boredom, he decides to adopt a foster child in Africa, to which he write letters about how much his life sucks now. One of the few things that keeps him going is his daughter, who is about to get married to a dimwitted, trailer trash like, waterbed salesman.

As he goes out one day, mulling about his wife he annoys him to no end, he returns to find that his wife has died from a blod clot in her upstairs department. Not much later, he finds some old love letters lying around the house. It turns out that his wife had an affair with his best friend, some 25 years earlier.

Deciding he had enough of just waiting for death to knock on his door, Schmidt embarks on a road trip to (stop!) his daughters wedding, visiting the places he frequented throughout his life on his way over there.

The whole time Schmidt narrates his views through the letters he sends to his foster child in Africa. Along the line he reflects about the life he had, he learns to miss his deceased wife and starts questioning if anything he did actually made a difference to anyone.

The movie, while set for a DownerEnding (is he, or is he not going to kill himself?), instead ends on a TearJerker.

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Warren Schmidt just retired and has to face the fact that he has to spend his last remaining years on earth with his boring nagging wife. Out of boredom, he decides to adopt a foster child in Africa, to which he write letters about how much his life sucks now. One of the few things that keeps him going is his daughter, who is about to get married to a dimwitted, trailer trash like, waterbed salesman.

salesman.

As he goes out one day, mulling about his wife he annoys him to no end, he returns to find that his wife has died from a blod clot in her upstairs department. Not much later, he finds some old love letters lying around the house. It turns out that his wife had an affair with his best friend, some 25 years earlier.

earlier.

Deciding he had enough of just waiting for death to knock on his door, Schmidt embarks on a road trip to (stop!) his daughters wedding, visiting the places he frequented throughout his life on his way over there.

there.

The whole time Schmidt narrates his views through the letters he sends to his foster child in Africa. Along the line he reflects about the life he had, he learns to miss his deceased wife and starts questioning if anything he did actually made a difference to anyone.

anyone.

The movie, while set for a DownerEnding (is he, or is he not going to kill himself?), instead ends on a TearJerker.
TearJerker.



* KitschCollection: Warren Schmidt's wife, Helen, collects little Hummel figurines, to Warren's displeasure. Later in the film Warren visits a museum full of them and has to admit they aren't all so bad. Warren and Helen are both in their late 60s, and Helen is depicted as grandmotherly, though technically not a grandmother.

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* KitschCollection: Warren Schmidt's wife, Helen, collects little Hummel figurines, to Warren's displeasure. Later in the film Warren visits a museum full of them and has to admit they aren't all so bad. Warren and Helen are both in their late 60s, and Helen is depicted as grandmotherly, though technically not a grandmother.



* SurrogateSoliloquy: Schmidt has a hard time dealing with his mandatory retirement from his mundane job as an insurance actuary. Feeling useless, he responds to a TV ad by "adopting," for a few dollars a month, an African foster child named Ndugu Umbo to whom he writes a series of frank letters describing his many problems, humiliations and misadventures. Schmidt's voice-over narration of these letters, which must make little sense to Ndugu in far-away Tanzania, reveals his troubled inner life with tragic-comic directness to the film's audience.

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* SurrogateSoliloquy: Schmidt has a hard time dealing with his mandatory retirement from his mundane job as an insurance actuary. Feeling useless, he responds to a TV ad by "adopting," for a few dollars a month, an African foster child named Ndugu Umbo to whom he writes a series of frank letters describing his many problems, humiliations and misadventures. Schmidt's voice-over narration of these letters, which must make little sense to Ndugu in far-away Tanzania, reveals his troubled inner life with tragic-comic directness to the film's audience.



* YouCantGoHomeAgain: During one of his excursions on his way to his daughter's wedding, Schmidt goes to visit his childhood home from many years ago, only to find a tire shop now standing in its place. He still goes inside and tries to reminisce, to the bemusement of the clerk.
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* YouCantGoHomeAgain: During one of his excursions on his way to his daughter's wedding, Schmidt goes to visit his childhood home from many years ago, only to find a tire shop now standing in its place. He still goes inside and tries to reminisce, to the bemusement of the clerk.
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The kind of movie you see late at night on comedy central. You keep thinking: "When does this movie become funny.", until you realize it is in fact not a comedy, but a drama. And then you continue to watch it anyway.

''About Schmidt'' is a drama movie starring Jack Nicholson, playing Warren Schmidt. He is not a particularly nice person, since... well... we are talking about Jack Nicholson, so what did you expect?

Warren Schmidt just retired and has to face the fact that he has to spend his last remaining years on earth with his boring nagging wife. Out of boredom, he decides to adopt a foster child in Africa, to which he write letters about how much his life sucks now. One of the few things that keeps him going is his daughter, who is about to get married to a dimwitted, trailer trash like, waterbed salesman.

As he goes out one day, mulling about his wife he annoys him to no end, he returns to find that his wife has died from a blod clot in her upstairs department. Not much later, he finds some old love letters lying around the house. It turns out that his wife had an affair with his best friend, some 25 years earlier.

Deciding he had enough of just waiting for death to knock on his door, Schmidt embarks on a road trip to (stop!) his daughters wedding, visiting the places he frequented throughout his life on his way over there.

The whole time Schmidt narrates his views through the letters he sends to his foster child in Africa. Along the line he reflects about the life he had, he learns to miss his deceased wife and starts questioning if anything he did actually made a difference to anyone.

The movie, while set for a DownerEnding (is he, or is he not going to kill himself?), instead ends on a TearJerker.

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!!About Schmidt provides examples of the following:

* AcademyAward: Jack Nicholson in a dramatic portrayal? More like [[AwardBait Academy Award Bait]].
* ActorAllusion: Although Nicholson deliberately suppresses his usual persona to play the downtrodden Schmidt, in one of the letter-writing scenes he talks about how he once dreamed of starting a Fortune 500 company and an imaginary magazine cover is shown with the headline "Warren Schmidt raises the stakes - and some eyebrows" with a picture of him doing so himself, looking a bit more like a typical Jack Nicholson character.
* BathtubBonding: This is what Randall's mother attempts on Warren, to say the least.
* BittersweetEnding: It's either this, or a TearJerker. Is Schmidt cluthing on the letter from Ndugu's caretaker as a last resort, or is it genuinly worth sticking around for?
* ButIDigress: When requested to write a brief letter to Ndugu, the poor African child he has decided to sponsor, Schmidt begins by saying a few things about himself, including having a brother who lost a leg to diabetes, and soon ends up pouring his heart out about all the disappointments in his life; his aging wife who he can't stand anymore, his seemingly ungrateful former employers replacing him with someone much younger and less experienced, and his daughter getting engaged to a man he doesn't approve of. Eventually he decides to wrap it up so Ndugu can go off and spend the money he's sent to him (of course where Ngudu lives there can't be many shops). These "Dear Ndugu" letters are used at various points in the film as a device to summarise what Schmidt's been up to and for him to reflect on things. Quite what Ndugu or whoever ends up reading them will make of all this is anyone's guess.
* DownerEnding: Narrowly averted in the end, when Schmidt receives a letter from his foster child.
* DysfunctionalFamily: Certainly how Warren sees Randall's family (they live in a messy street, his divorced hippie parents don't get on very well) but this is shown to be somewhat hypocritical since his relationship with his own wife and daughter isn't perfect either.
* EnforcedMethodActing: For some of the characters we meet along Warren's road trip. The tireshop attendant for one thing was not an actor, he is an actual employee of an actual tireshop 'Warren' visits.
* FanDisservice: If there are still people out there who think Nicholson is still sexy: hottub scene.
** Um... surely Kathy Bates drops a lot more jaws in this scene??
* FlyoverCountry: Like Payne's previous two films, this film was shot in Omaha, Nebraska. And instead of flying, Schmidt decides to use his new, oversized Winnebago to drive to Denver for his daughter's wedding, and we see countryside that would normally be missed by air travellers.
* HippieParents: Roberta, who at one point admits she breastfed Randall til he was almost 5. Also Randall's father seems a bit like one. Used as a contrast to Schmidt's very conventional lifestyle.
* InNameOnly: The book is about a widowed retiree who is unhappy with his daughter's marriage, but it is different in pretty much every other respect. The movie changed the setting, Schmidt's career, the daughter's career, the son-in-law's career, and eliminated the love affair that Schmidt had with a 25 year-old waitress.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Warren Schmidt. Now that he has gone into retirement, he realizes that he despises his wife. He is actually looking forward to a life without her. And then she dies... it takes a while before he realizes what he has to miss without her.
** Also the fumbling attempt of him trying to persuade his daughter not to marry her fiance. Yes Warren, you are right, but you don't have to be such of an ass.
* KitschCollection: Warren Schmidt's wife, Helen, collects little Hummel figurines, to Warren's displeasure. Later in the film Warren visits a museum full of them and has to admit they aren't all so bad. Warren and Helen are both in their late 60s, and Helen is depicted as grandmotherly, though technically not a grandmother.
* LargeHam: Totally ''averted'' by Nicholson. Even his grand speech during the wedding scene was low-key.
* NonNudeBathing: Warren during the hottub scene, ''in some edits''. Randall's mother.
* PlayingAgainstType: Completely with Jack Nicholson. One of the most magnetic movie superstars plays a boring, repressed man who's led a dull, somewhat wasted life. With a combover. And we see him really letting himself go once his [[spoiler:wife dies]] This is one film where you cannot accuse him of playing Jack Nicholson.
* TheRedStapler: You might guess Childreach had a massive spike in donations after the film was released.
* SurrogateSoliloquy: Schmidt has a hard time dealing with his mandatory retirement from his mundane job as an insurance actuary. Feeling useless, he responds to a TV ad by "adopting," for a few dollars a month, an African foster child named Ndugu Umbo to whom he writes a series of frank letters describing his many problems, humiliations and misadventures. Schmidt's voice-over narration of these letters, which must make little sense to Ndugu in far-away Tanzania, reveals his troubled inner life with tragic-comic directness to the film's audience.
* ToAbsentFriends: Parodied somewhat, when the emotional ex-husband of Warren Schmidt's daughter's fiance's mother gets up to give a speech at the restaurant table. "If only my parents were with us today... but they are really here... right now... hi, Mom... hiya, pop..." Most of the family watches him give his speech, while Warren's head rolls around in meds-induced ecstacy.
* YouCantGoHomeAgain: During one of his excursions on his way to his daughter's wedding, Schmidt goes to visit his childhood home from many years ago, only to find a tire shop now standing in its place. He still goes inside and tries to reminisce, to the bemusement of the clerk.
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