Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Fanon / Pokemon

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Some fans believed that Penny's father is Peony from Sword and Shield due to the way Penny described his father to be similar to how Peonia reacts to her own father and Penny mentioning how she's nicknamed "Pen-Pen" by her father in a near identical way Peony nicknames Peonia as "Nia". Add that with how Penny was initially from Galar, and how Peony's wife as shown in his Rare league card is given the beauty model with lighter skin contrasting Peonia and Peony both being AmbiguouslyBrown was given support as well to this {{Fanon}}, adding that Penny might have taken after her mother instead of her father.

to:

** Some fans believed that Penny's father is Peony from Sword and Shield due to the way Penny described his father to be similar to how Peonia reacts to her own father and Penny mentioning how she's nicknamed "Pen-Pen" by her father in a near identical way Peony nicknames Peonia as "Nia". Add that with how Penny was initially from Galar, and how Peony's wife as shown in his Rare league card is given the beauty model with lighter skin contrasting Peonia and Peony both being AmbiguouslyBrown was given support as well to this {{Fanon}}, adding supporting the theory and claim that Penny might have taken after her mother instead of her father.father. The Mochi Mayhem DLC epilogue for Scarlet and Violet confirms this as early in the DLC story, [[spoiler:Penny has a call with her dad saying "Ughh, no, it's not gonna be an "Adven-tour" - No one says that!", with the phrase being something that Peony often says in the Crown Tundra DLC at varying points.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Some fans believed that Penny's father is Peony from Sword and Shield due to the way Penny described his father to be similar to how Peonia reacts to her own father and Penny mentioning how she's nicknamed "Pen-Pen" by her father in a near identical way Peony nicknames Peonia as "Nia". Add that with how Penny was initially from Galar, and how Peony's wife as shown in his Rare league card is given the beauty model with lighter skin contrasting Peonia and Peony both being AmbiguouslyBrown was given support as well to this {{Fanon}}, adding that Penny might have taken after her mother instead of her father.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Dawn being a ProperLady and a [[TomboyAndGirlyGirl more feminine foil]] to the tomboyish May, Lyra, and/or Hilda is common, especially when she is depicted as SilkHidingSteel.

to:

* Dawn being a ProperLady and a [[TomboyAndGirlyGirl more feminine foil]] to the tomboyish May, Lyra, and/or Hilda is common, especially when she is depicted as SilkHidingSteel. This rang true to her Adventures counterpart, Platinum, who is the heiress of a rich family.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Many Pokédex entries have questionable data, with some such as Spoink's and Victini's being [[UnreliableNarrator outright nonsense]]. Fans tend to handwave the Pokédex entries as myths and urban legends. Alternatively, the protagonists themselves write the entries. The rather cynical entries of ''Sun and Moon'' are believed to be Rotom being either BrutallyHonest or a {{Troll}}, with most fanworks depicting and leaning on the latter, especially as ''Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'' didn't have Mega evoltion entries for ''all'' the other Mega evolution available Pokémon such as Altaria and Aggron, who weren't in the Alola dex (Bar Mega Rayquaza and Mega Diancie).

to:

* Many Pokédex entries have questionable data, with some such as Spoink's and Victini's being [[UnreliableNarrator outright nonsense]]. Fans tend to handwave the Pokédex entries as myths and urban legends. Alternatively, the protagonists themselves write the entries. The rather cynical entries of ''Sun and Moon'' are believed to be Rotom being either BrutallyHonest or a {{Troll}}, with most fanworks depicting and leaning on the latter, especially as latter due to some Mega Evolution entries contradicting those in ''X and Y'' and ''Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire'' and how both Sina and Dexio, who both practice and know Mega Evolution, appear in Gen VII. It also helps that ''Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'' didn't have Mega evoltion evolution entries for ''all'' the other Mega evolution available Pokémon with some Mega evolving capable Pokémon such as Altaria Altaria, Rayquaza and Aggron, who weren't Diancie not being in the Alola dex (Bar Mega Rayquaza and Mega Diancie).dex.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Many Pokédex entries have questionable data, with some such as Spoink's and Victini's being [[UnreliableNarrator outright nonsense]]. Fans tend to handwave the Pokédex entries as myths and urban legends. Alternatively, the protagonists themselves write the entries. The rather cynical entries of ''Sun and Moon'' are believed to be Rotom being either BrutallyHonest or a {{Troll}}.

to:

* Many Pokédex entries have questionable data, with some such as Spoink's and Victini's being [[UnreliableNarrator outright nonsense]]. Fans tend to handwave the Pokédex entries as myths and urban legends. Alternatively, the protagonists themselves write the entries. The rather cynical entries of ''Sun and Moon'' are believed to be Rotom being either BrutallyHonest or a {{Troll}}.{{Troll}}, with most fanworks depicting and leaning on the latter, especially as ''Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'' didn't have Mega evoltion entries for ''all'' the other Mega evolution available Pokémon such as Altaria and Aggron, who weren't in the Alola dex (Bar Mega Rayquaza and Mega Diancie).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In works where some Legendaries aren't SingleSpecimenSpecies and are sapient, it's common to introduce the concept of a "prime" or "alpha" Lengendary as the leader of its respective species.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* It's nearly-universally accepted that of the Generation 8 fossils (which are incorrectly reassembled by Cara Liss, resulting in a MixAndMatchCritter), the original form of the Fossilized Bird (which creates Arctozolt and Dracozolt) would have been a velociraptor-like Pokemon named Velozolt, while the Fossilized Fish (Arctovish and Dracovish) was Dunklevish, based on the dunkleosteus. Both of these have become popular {{Recurring Fanon Character}}s as a result. The true forms of the Fossilized Drake and Dino do not have the same level of consensus, however.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The existence of Relicanth, who is explicitly stated to be a Fossil Pokémon that just didn't go exctinct muddies it all a bit, since it is, in fact, Rock/Water.

to:

** The existence of Relicanth, who is explicitly stated to be a Fossil Pokémon that just didn't go exctinct extinct muddies it all a bit, since it is, in fact, Rock/Water.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fixed a typo.


** The existence of Relicanth, who is explicitly stated to be a Fossil Pokémon that just didn't go excting muddies it all a bit, since it is, in fact, Rock/Water.

to:

** The existence of Relicanth, who is explicitly stated to be a Fossil Pokémon that just didn't go excting exctinct muddies it all a bit, since it is, in fact, Rock/Water.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Armaldo was Water/Bug while Cradily was Plant/Water.
** Rampardos might have been Fighting type, while Bastiodon was Steel type.

to:

** Armaldo was Water/Bug while Cradily was Plant/Water.
Grass/Water.
** Rampardos might have been Fighting type, while Bastiodon was a pure Steel type.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* It's assumed that fossil Pokémon are only part Rock type because they've just been [[DeathIsCheap brought back to life from a fossil]], and they originally didn't have the Rock type or were another one.
** Kabutops was Water/Bug, Aerodactyl [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Dragon]]/Flying and Omastar was a pure Water type (You could argue it could've been Bug too since it's a mollusk, but for some reason mollusk Pokémon like Magcargo or Gastrodon don't tend to be Bug types).
** Armaldo was Water/Bug while Cradily was Plant/Water.
** Rampardos might have been Fighting type, while Bastiodon was Steel type.
** Carracosta was a pure Water type, while Archeops was a Normal/Flying.
** Aurorus was pure Ice type and Tyrantrum was Dragon/Dark type.
** The Gen 8 fossils weren't restored properly, and that's why they aren't Rock types.
** The existence of Relicanth, who is explicitly stated to be a Fossil Pokémon that just didn't go excting muddies it all a bit, since it is, in fact, Rock/Water.

Added: 4

Changed: 62

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** This has led to claims (some jokingly, some semi-seriously) that the movie Film/{{Annihilation}} is a [[SpiritualSuccessor Spiritual]] StealthPrequel to Pokémon, albeit [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] and DarkerAndEdgier.

to:

** This has led to claims (some jokingly, some semi-seriously) that the movie Film/{{Annihilation}} ''Film/Annihilation2018'' is a [[SpiritualSuccessor Spiritual]] StealthPrequel {{Spiritual|Successor}} StealthPrequel to Pokémon, albeit [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] {{deconstruct|ion}}ed and DarkerAndEdgier.



[[/folder]]

to:

[[/folder]][[/folder]]

----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** This has led to claims (some jokingly, some semi-seriously) that the movie Film/{{Annihilation}} is a [[SpiritualSuccessor Spiritual]] StealthPrequel to Pokémon, albeit [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] and DarkerAndEdgier.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Adding a wick.


* Given Ghetsis' reputation as [[VileVillainSaccharineShow "the most evil Pokemon villain"]] and his status as an AbusiveParent, it's very common for fans to speculate just ''how'' abusive he was to N. This speculation ranges from him beating N to flat-out ''raping'' him. In the games, he's shown emotionally and verbally abusing N, but is never shown going beyond that.

to:

* Given Ghetsis' reputation as [[VileVillainSaccharineShow "the most evil Pokemon villain"]] and his status as an AbusiveParent, it's very common for fans to speculate just ''how'' abusive he was to N. This speculation ranges from him beating N to flat-out ''raping'' ''[[ParentalIncest raping]]'' him. In the games, he's shown emotionally and verbally abusing N, but is never shown going beyond that.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* May is sometimes depicted as getting a throat condition after her appearance in ''Diamand and Pearl'', rendering her unable to speak and justifying why she didn't see Ash for such a long time afterward, if at all. [[LifeImitatesArt Of course, this is taken from her Japanese voice actress, Kaori, having said throat condition in real life, which is why May never reappeared in canon short for a non-speaking cameo in ''Journeys''.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
bust
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Delia, or any parent in the anime such as Johanna, Grace, and Meyer without a visibly present partner, being single. Because of the absence of any fathers, or in Meyer's case mother, in relation to the single parent of Ash, Dawn, Serena, and Clemont and Bonnie respectively, most fans tend to default to them being either divorcees, widows or widowers, or having never married. With the non-Delias it is most likely a result of no mention of the other parent at all, combined with the general absence of fathers in the games (at most they get mentioned off handily and are never seen, bar Norman). With Delia the earlier mentioned 'deadbeat or dead' interpretation tends to be the reason, with so little mention of him in the main continuity that it is not hard to imagine him as completely absent (in the movie continuity he is mentioned more, but that is not the main continuity). In general fans, especially western fans, [[ValuesDissonance see absent parents as clearly a sign of them not being present in the lives of the family at all, versus the native Japanese fanbase where parents being absent for work for long periods of time is much more common and expected, leading to far less assuming the worse.]]

to:

* Delia, or any parent in the anime such as Johanna, Grace, and Meyer without a visibly present partner, being single. Because of the absence of any fathers, or in Meyer's case mother, in relation to the single parent of Ash, Dawn, Serena, and Clemont and Bonnie respectively, most fans tend to default to them being either divorcees, widows or widowers, or having never married. With the non-Delias it is most likely a result of no mention of the other parent at all, combined with the general absence of fathers in the games (at most they get mentioned off handily and are never seen, bar Norman). With Delia the earlier mentioned 'deadbeat or dead' interpretation tends to be the reason, with so little mention of him in the main continuity that it is not hard to imagine him as completely absent (in the movie continuity he is mentioned more, but that is not the main continuity). In general fans, especially western fans, [[ValuesDissonance see absent parents as clearly a sign of them not being present in the lives of the family at all, versus the native Japanese fanbase where parents being absent for work for long prolonged periods of time is much more common and expected, leading to far less assuming the worse.worst.]]



** Yellow has either amber, yellow, brown, or yellowish-brown eyes depending on the fan-art. This is largely because her official colour is [[HairColorDissonance hard to figure out]].

to:

** Yellow has either amber, yellow, brown, or yellowish-brown eyes depending on the fan-art. This is largely because her official colour color is [[HairColorDissonance hard to figure out]].



* In ''Theatre/PokemonLive'' Delia and Giovanni are shown to have been a couple in the past. The show itself mentions that they dated but Delia broke up with him and married Ash's father. Fans, however, more commonly depict ''Giovanni'' as Ash's father. This is helped by WordOfGod that in an earlier script Giovanni was his father, and even in the final product there were intended to be implications that Giovanni was actually Ash's dad.

to:

* In ''Theatre/PokemonLive'' Delia and Giovanni are shown to have been a couple in the past. The show itself mentions that they dated but Delia broke up with him and married Ash's father. Fans, however, more commonly depict ''Giovanni'' as Ash's father. This is helped by WordOfGod that in an earlier script Giovanni was his father, and even in the final product there were intended to be implications that Giovanni was actually Ash's dad.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I've seen this enough times I think it can be considered a fan subplot.



to:

* Some fans portray Barry (and by extension, his father Palmer) as being the descendent of either Irida (due to them being blond), Adaman (since they have some personality traits in common such as being headstrong and impatient), or [[RivalryAsCourtship both.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Because Kabu is said to have come from Hoenn, many started to take the idea that he is related to Flannery, who is the fire type Gym Leader in Hoenn. His exact relation varies from person to person, but he is generally not considered to be Flannery's Elite Four member Grandfather.

to:

* Because Kabu is said to have come from Hoenn, many started to take the idea that he is related to Flannery, who is the fire type Gym Leader in Hoenn. His exact relation varies from person to person, but he is generally not considered to be Flannery's Elite Four member Grandfather.Grandfather due to Flannery's grandfather having an appearance in the main anime.



* Team Instinct as the {{Butt Monkey}} due to having less members than the other teams.

to:

* Team Instinct as the {{Butt Monkey}} ButtMonkey due to having less members than the other teams.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** It's often stated that Tauros and Miltank are opposite gender-counterparts of the same {{mon|s}} like the Nidoran line(s) and Volbeat/Illumise, but this has never been stated in the games or the anime. It actually has some basis in game-play —- their stats total the same, they're always found in similar/the same locations outside of Safari Zones, etc. —- but, nevertheless, the fact that you can't get Tauros by breeding Miltank (or Miltank from breeding Tauros with a Ditto). The same applies to the Vullaby (female) and Rufflet (male) lines. Practically confirmed by ''Sun and Moon'', though they [[TheArtifact still can't produce eggs of the other from breeding]].

to:

** It's often stated that Tauros and Miltank are opposite gender-counterparts of the same {{mon|s}} like the Nidoran line(s) and Volbeat/Illumise, but this has never been stated in the games or the anime. It actually has some basis in game-play —- -- their stats total the same, they're always found in similar/the same locations outside of Safari Zones, etc. —- -- but, nevertheless, the fact that you can't get Tauros by breeding Miltank (or Miltank from breeding Tauros with a Ditto). The same applies to the Vullaby (female) and Rufflet (male) lines. Practically confirmed by ''Sun and Moon'', though they [[TheArtifact still can't produce eggs of the other from breeding]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Byron is nearly always portrayed as a single father, since his wife/Roark's mother never appears or is even mentioned. Typically he is said to be divorced, but more rarely he is portrayed as a widower. The anime suggests that he lives apart from his wife but they are still married, since Roark mentioned asking him to come home for their wedding anniversary.

to:

* Byron is nearly always portrayed as a single father, parent, since his wife/Roark's mother never appears or is even mentioned. Typically he is said to be divorced, but more rarely he is portrayed as a widower. The anime suggests that he lives apart from his wife but they are still married, since Roark mentioned asking him to come home for their wedding anniversary.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Byron is divorced, a single father, or less commonly a widower, since his wife/Roark's mother never appears or is even mentioned. The anime suggests that he lives apart from his wife but they are still married, since Roark mentioned asking him to come home for their wedding anniversary.

to:

* Byron is divorced, nearly always portrayed as a single father, or less commonly a widower, since his wife/Roark's mother never appears or is even mentioned.mentioned. Typically he is said to be divorced, but more rarely he is portrayed as a widower. The anime suggests that he lives apart from his wife but they are still married, since Roark mentioned asking him to come home for their wedding anniversary.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Though Volo calls himself a Pokemon ''Wielder'' instead of a trainer, many fans depict him as still maintaining a [[MoralityPet genuine bond with his Togepi]]. It helps that Togepi can only evolve via ThePowerOfFriendship.

to:

* Though Volo calls himself a Pokemon ''Wielder'' instead of a trainer, many fans depict him as still maintaining a [[MoralityPet genuine bond with his Togepi]]. It helps that Togepi can only evolve via ThePowerOfFriendship. Their photo together, which is one of the first of many that is displayed on Dagero's shop, is also often used to show their genuine bond.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Some with ShippingGoggles on who also ''don't'' believe they're related would also occasionally depict the two as having some sort of romantic relationship, though it's usually one-sided on Volo's end

to:

** Some with ShippingGoggles on who also ''don't'' believe they're related (unless they're ''[[IncestYayShipping those]]'' kinds of fans) would also occasionally depict the two as having some sort of romantic relationship, though it's usually one-sided on Volo's end




to:

* It's generally agreed upon that the Time Machine wasn't actually what its name indicates but, unbeknownst to the Professor, a "wishing machine" that created things straight from someone's imagination. This is mostly due to the inconsistencies behind the Paradox pokémon and how it fits into the overall lore and the fact that they look perfectly like the explorers' sketches of what they ''believed'' pokémon from a different time would look like.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Some with ShippingGoggles on who also ''don't'' believe they're related would also occasionally depict the two as having some sort of romantic relationship, though it's usually one-sided on Volo's end


Added DiffLines:

** Her [[FamilyEyeResemblance eyes being slightly reminiscent of Melli's]] has some people theorizing that she's his descendant.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Speculation is not permitted outside of WMG pages.


* The infamous "[[Fanfic/PoorRival Red killed Blue's Raticate]]" theory. The idea is that Red accidentally killed Blue's Raticate during a battle (or that it died from injuries), explaining why it's not on his team afterwards. It's rarely played seriously nowadays outside of creepypasta and various [[Webcomic/NuzlockeComics Nuzlocke runs]], especially the more story-oriented ones, with the preferred fanon being that Blue either released Raticate or put it in the PC because he was disappointed in it. While it's still not overly common, perhaps with the players' Pokémon dying being a core concept of the genre, the Raticate might provide a nice enough callback to allow the theory one last grasp at life.

to:

* The infamous "[[Fanfic/PoorRival Red killed Blue's Raticate]]" theory. The idea is that Red accidentally killed Blue's Raticate during a battle (or that it died from injuries), explaining why it's not on his team afterwards. It's rarely played seriously nowadays outside of creepypasta and various [[Webcomic/NuzlockeComics Nuzlocke runs]], especially the more story-oriented ones, with the preferred fanon being that Blue either released Raticate or put it in the PC because he was disappointed in it. While it's still not overly common, perhaps with the players' Pokémon dying being a core concept of the genre, the Raticate might provide a nice enough callback to allow the theory one last grasp at life.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Many fans speculate that Gengar are the shadows of Clefable.

to:

** Many fans speculate that Gengar are the shadows or ghosts of Clefable.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* The Underground Man's exact relation to Roark & Byron is never clarified but it is most common to assume that he is Byron's father and Roark's grandfather. Similarly, Bertha is sometimes believed to be Byron's mother and Roark's grandmother, and the Underground Man's wife.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Save for where SchrödingersPlayerCharacter is ''not'' in effect (such as the Gen 4 games), fanfiction that has both the male and female player character present often depicts them as siblings, usually [[HalfIdenticalTwins twins.]] This is often done when elements from both versions of a mainline game are incorporated together and because it makes for interesting character {{Foils}}, especially given how some common fanon depictions of the player characters contrast from each other.

to:

* Save for where SchrödingersPlayerCharacter SchrodingersPlayerCharacter is ''not'' in effect (such as the Gen 4 games), fanfiction that has both the male and female player character present often depicts them as siblings, usually [[HalfIdenticalTwins twins.]] This is often done when elements from both versions of a mainline game are incorporated together and because it makes for interesting character {{Foils}}, {{Foil}}s, especially given how some common fanon depictions of the player characters contrast from each other.

Added: 887

Changed: 121

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


!!General for Mainline Games
* The player's mother being a single mom is the go-to depiction that she gets, in order to explain why almost every player character (except for the Gen 3 games) has a DisappearedDad. The circumstances behind the father's absence, whether he's dead or the parents have divorced, vary but there are some common depictions in some specific games (see Sun and Moon entry).
* Save for where SchrödingersPlayerCharacter is ''not'' in effect (such as the Gen 4 games), fanfiction that has both the male and female player character present often depicts them as siblings, usually [[HalfIdenticalTwins twins.]] This is often done when elements from both versions of a mainline game are incorporated together and because it makes for interesting character {{Foils}}, especially given how some common fanon depictions of the player characters contrast from each other.



* Arven

to:

* ArvenArven:



** In fanart, he's sometimes depicted with heterochromia, with [[FamilyEyeResemblance his hidden eye being brown like Turo's.]]

to:

** In fanart, he's sometimes depicted with as having heterochromia, with [[FamilyEyeResemblance his hidden eye being brown like Turo's.]]



* Rika
** Because of her Bifauxnen appearance, she's popularly headcanoned as either being a transwoman in the process of transitioning or just comfortable with how she looks. Alternatively, some depict Rika as nonbinary in fanworks.

to:

* Rika
Rika:
** Because of her Bifauxnen {{Bifauxnen}} appearance, she's popularly headcanoned as either being a transwoman in the process of transitioning or just comfortable with how she looks. Alternatively, some depict Rika as nonbinary in fanworks.



* You'd be hard pressed to find a fanfic that ''doesn't'' have Hassel and Brassius be a couple, with the ship coming from their close friendship in the game and the nicknames they gave each other.

to:

* You'd be hard pressed to find a fanfic that ''doesn't'' have Hassel and Brassius be a couple, often having them be HappilyMarried, with the ship coming from their [[HoYay close friendship in the game and the nicknames they gave each other that sound like what you'd hear a couple call each other.]]

Top