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* ALighterShadeOfBlack: In stories that show the humans committing atrocities against the ponies, it's often pointed out in the narration and by characters that the humans just kill their enemies instead of [[ForcedTransformation forcibly transforming]] and [[MindRape mind raping]] them and turning them on their former enemies.
* ALighterShadeOfGrey: While it's shown that the humans tend to commit morally questionable acts while defending their homeworld, and the ponies genuinely believe they are trying to help the humans, even if they are resorting to MindRape via the potions, the narration often tends to point out that the ponies ''are'' invaders and that the humans are justified in fighting back.
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* TheRez: ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/458269/the-reservation The Reservation]]'' takes place after the war with the ponies put in a reservation, the various chapters detail how specific human and pony characters are dealing with the state of affairs.
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** ''Fanfic/AllAmericanGirl'' mentions a "Humans Are Bastards" [[ShowWithinAShow horror film]] called ''The Converters''. The makers of which nearly got sued for libel.

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** ''Fanfic/AllAmericanGirl'' ''Fanfic/AllAmericanGirlShinzakura'' mentions a "Humans Are Bastards" [[ShowWithinAShow horror film]] called ''The Converters''. The makers of which nearly got sued for libel.
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%% * AssimilationPlot: Celestia's ponification crusade.

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%% * AssimilationPlot: Celestia's While ponification crusade.is more or less voluntary, the entirety of humanity is facing extinction not simply from pollution, plague, or economic problems, but also because of the "purification spell" that is harmful to humans. In short, humanity is being forced to become another species.



* LesCollaborateurs: It's mentioned that human scientists helped develop the [[MutagenicGoo ponification serum.]] Additionally, the world's leaders seem to have no interest in stopping what the ponies are doing, often because they are aware that the world is ecologically ruined.
** The PER are often depicted as such as well.

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* LesCollaborateurs: It's mentioned that human scientists helped develop the [[MutagenicGoo ponification serum.]] Additionally, the world's leaders don't seem to have no any interest in stopping what the ponies are doing, often possibly because they are aware that the world is ecologically ruined.
** The PER are is often depicted as such as well.



** Also, how powerful and threatening the PER and HLF are varies by writer. Some fics have them as little more than street gangsters and a nuisance; others portray them as highly sophisticated paramilitary organizations with enough resources and firepower [[NGOSuperpower to rival a small country's army]] and being ''very'' dangerous.

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** Also, how powerful and threatening the PER and HLF are varies by the writer. Some fics have them as little more than street gangsters and a nuisance; others portray them as highly sophisticated paramilitary organizations with enough resources and firepower [[NGOSuperpower to rival a small country's army]] and being ''very'' dangerous.



* DontYouDarePityMe: Discussed in ''Railroad Seven-Three.'' The average native Equestrian sometimes claims to pity humans rather than hating them; many humans in turn resent this. Balthazar in particular despises Celestia for what he views as an incredibly condescending attitude.

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* DontYouDarePityMe: Discussed in ''Railroad Seven-Three.'' The average native Equestrian sometimes claims to pity humans rather than hating hate them; many humans in turn resent this. Balthazar in particular despises Celestia for what he views as an incredibly condescending attitude.



** ''Grayscale'' has this ''in spades'' for both sides: for the humans, it's just an alternative to conversion, a process that kills them as the people they are; for the other side, it's the Bureaus' volunteers that kill themselves because of the massive emotional burnout that comes from what is essentially killing off innocents. Rainbow Dash (the POV character) remembers how, after the Bureaus began working, the suicide rates rose in Equestria and how over half of them were volunteers that had crossed the DespairEventHorizon. Things got so bad that a royal decree instituted that no one should work on a bureau for more than six months.

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** ''Grayscale'' has this ''in spades'' for both sides: for the humans, it's just an alternative to conversion, a process that kills them as the people they are; for the other side, it's the Bureaus' volunteers that kill themselves because of the massive emotional burnout that comes from what is essentially killing off innocents. Rainbow Dash (the POV character) remembers how, after the Bureaus began working, the suicide rates rose in Equestria and how over half of them were volunteers that had crossed the DespairEventHorizon. Things got so bad that a royal decree was instituted that no one should work on a bureau for more than six months.



** These are more the main viewpoints of the PER (Ponification For Earth's Rebirth) and the HLF (Human Liberation Front) respectively. Most regular ponies and humans stay a mixed bag.

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** These are more the main viewpoints of the PER (Ponification For Earth's Rebirth) and the HLF (Human Liberation Front) respectively. Most regular ponies and humans stay a mixed bag.



* ForcedTransformation: Some stories have forced ponification as a response to the Human Liberation Front and humans that like being humans. Ponies usually see it as better alternative to killing them, but those getting changed tend to disagree.

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* ForcedTransformation: Some stories have forced ponification as a response to the Human Liberation Front and humans that like being humans. Ponies usually see it as a better alternative to killing them, but those getting changed tend to disagree.



* GreyAndGrayMorality: The ponies are fairly consistently portrayed as racist (speciesist?) to varying degrees, but genuinely believe that their actions are helping humanity and leaving them happier in the long run. Humanity is only trying to defend itself, its culture and its world but seems to take rather perverse glee in living down to its thuggish reputation in the process.

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* GreyAndGrayMorality: The ponies are fairly consistently portrayed as racist (speciesist?) xenophobic to varying degrees, but genuinely believe that their actions are helping humanity and leaving them happier in the long run. Humanity is only trying to defend itself, its culture culture, and its world but seems to take rather perverse glee in living down to its thuggish reputation in the process.
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Because this series tends to arouse strong emotions, ''especially'' the stories written by [[Creator/JenniferDianeReitz Chatoyance]], please keep Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in mind. To add a bit of perspective to that, ''A New Age'', ''Transhumanism'' and ''Not Just Ponies'' are the only stories listed above that are not out to [[CurbStompBattle defeat the ponies]], who are depicted as an invading enemy force.

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Because this series tends to arouse strong emotions, ''especially'' the stories written by [[Creator/JenniferDianeReitz Chatoyance]], please keep Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in mind.all edits made to this page civil. To add a bit of perspective to that, ''A New Age'', ''Transhumanism'' and ''Not Just Ponies'' are the only stories listed above that are not out to [[CurbStompBattle defeat the ponies]], who are depicted as an invading enemy force.

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* TheRez: [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/458269/the-reservation The Reservation]] takes place after the war with the ponies put in a reservation, the various chapters detail how specific human and pony characters are dealing with the state of affairs.

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* TheRez: [[https://www.''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/458269/the-reservation The Reservation]] Reservation]]'' takes place after the war with the ponies put in a reservation, the various chapters detail how specific human and pony characters are dealing with the state of affairs.



* TranshumanTreachery: Once a person goes pony, they may still feel attachment to individual humans. Any sense of love for the race as a whole is long gone, however, even if they ardently supported it before.

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* TranshumanTreachery: Once a person goes pony, they may still feel an attachment to individual humans. Any sense of love for the race as a whole is long gone, however, even if they ardently supported it before.



* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: One of the major contentions with the premise and its fans is that readers who would stand against the MindRape, xenocide and [[YouWillBeAssimilated assimilation]] of humanity were the perpetrators orcs or lizards or beastmen or other stereotypically ugly sorts instead support it because cute ponies are the ones doing the "conversion".
* WhatTheHellHero: If someone calls out the ponies or Celestia specifically for their actions, they'll invoke this.
** This forms the premise of ''The Ballad of the White Rose'', where a group of rebellious young ponies discover that the death of humanity was no accident and decide that Celestia has a lot to answer for.
** ''Not Alone'' ends with the queen of the gryphons declaring Celestia's OmniscientMoralityLisence revoked, making it clear that the other races of Equus are not happy to hear about what she did to the humans and now they have every reason to fear for their own safety.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: One of the major contentions with the premise and its fans is that readers who would stand against the MindRape, xenocide xenocide, and [[YouWillBeAssimilated assimilation]] of humanity were the perpetrators orcs or lizards or beastmen or other stereotypically ugly sorts instead support it because cute ponies are the ones doing the "conversion".
* WhatTheHellHero: If someone calls out the ponies or and/or Celestia specifically for their actions, they'll invoke this.
** This forms the premise of ''The Ballad of the White Rose'', where a group of rebellious young ponies discover discovers that the death of humanity was no accident and decide decides that Celestia has a lot to answer for.
** ''Not Alone'' ends with the queen of the gryphons griffins declaring Celestia's OmniscientMoralityLisence OmniscientMoralityLicense revoked, making it clear that the other races of Equus are not happy to hear about what she did to the humans and now they have every reason to fear for their own safety. safety.
** ''Negotiations'' hands several of these out throughout the series. Twilight Sparkle receives one from a human diplomat in the first story for still defending Celestia even after all the crimes she committed and ruining Equestria over her obsessive crusade to convert humanity, Celestia herself receives one from Twilight in the third story for [[spoiler:leaving the other races behind to die when she jumped Equestria to Earth and dragging Equestria into an unnecessary war because she chose to believe in the worst of the humans rather than attempt to achieve peaceful coexistence]], and the side story ''Choice'' has a few of its own scattered throughout the chapters.



* WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide: The ponies essentially force mankind to "convert" en masse into ponies. If they don't, they'll killed by the unstoppable barrier. The sentiments that ponies have towards this in some of the darker fics leans towards the Type A variant.
* YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood: In some fics Celestia is motivated by this, she thinks humans are wasting their potential by not using their talents for harmony.

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* WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide: The ponies essentially force mankind to "convert" en masse into ponies. If they don't, they'll killed by the unstoppable barrier. The sentiments that ponies have towards this in some of the darker fics leans lean towards the Type A variant.
* YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood: In some fics fics, Celestia is motivated by this, she thinks humans are wasting their potential by not using their talents for harmony.



** The PER: Saviors of a fallen humanity? Or [[TheQuisling Quislings]] who've thrown away their humanity in exchange for "paradise"? Or [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]] who believe everyone should be ponified — regardless if they like it or not?

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** The PER: Saviors of a fallen humanity? human race? Or [[TheQuisling Quislings]] who've thrown away their humanity in exchange for "paradise"? Or [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]] who believe everyone should be ponified — regardless if they like it or not?
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* BalkanBastard: ''The Palladium Wings'' has a rare Greek example in Nikolaos Drakonakos, the [[RedBaron Dragon of the Skies]]. He's vicious SkyPirate captain with a [[ItsPersonal blood feud]] against Princess Celestia. In line with this trope, the narration describes him as "a Maniot Greek, piracy and bloodshed is in his blood". In addition, the majority of crew of his ship also appear to be of Balkan descent.
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The original story can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-conversion-bureau.html here]]. Spinoff fics can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html here]], [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-conversion-bureau-compilation-post.html here]], [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/22/the-conversion-bureau here]] and [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/26/the-conversion-bureau here]]. The majority of the ShadowArchetype of the stories (the [[CurbStompBattle curb stomps]], fics, [[TakeThat Take Thats]], and the like) are found [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/714/alternative-conversion-bureau here]].

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The original story can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-conversion-bureau.html here]]. Spinoff fics can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html here]], [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-conversion-bureau-compilation-post.html here]], [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/22/the-conversion-bureau here]] and [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/26/the-conversion-bureau here]]. The majority of the ShadowArchetype of the stories (the [[CurbStompBattle curb stomps]], fics, [[WarFic war stories]], [[TakeThat Take Thats]], and the like) are found [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/714/alternative-conversion-bureau here]].
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The original story can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-conversion-bureau.html here]]. Spinoff fics can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html here]], [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-conversion-bureau-compilation-post.html here]], [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/22/the-conversion-bureau here]] and [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/26/the-conversion-bureau here]]. The majority of the ShadowArchetype of the stories (the [[CurbStompBattle curb stomps]], KillEmAll fics, [[TakeThat Take Thats]], and the like) are found [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/714/alternative-conversion-bureau here]].

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The original story can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-conversion-bureau.html here]]. Spinoff fics can be found [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html here]], [[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-conversion-bureau-compilation-post.html here]], [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/22/the-conversion-bureau here]] and [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/26/the-conversion-bureau here]]. The majority of the ShadowArchetype of the stories (the [[CurbStompBattle curb stomps]], KillEmAll fics, [[TakeThat Take Thats]], and the like) are found [[http://www.fimfiction.net/group/714/alternative-conversion-bureau here]].



* HateFic: There are a ''lot'' of fics that either examine its flaws or just go KillEmAll on the characters.

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* HateFic: There are a ''lot'' of fics that either examine its flaws or just go KillEmAll on murder the characters.

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** In ''Not Just Ponies'', humanity and pony kind are both benevolent and trying to largely work with the other side to save as many people as they can. The PER and HLF, however, are ''both'' grossly misunderstanding the situation, actively opposed to one another, and seen in universe as [[KnightTemplar extremist lunatics]] who cause suffering to innocent people on ''both'' sides.

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** In ''Not Just Ponies'', humanity and pony kind the ponies are both benevolent and trying to largely work with the other side to save as many people as they can. The PER and HLF, however, are ''both'' grossly misunderstanding the situation, actively opposed to one another, and seen in universe in-universe as [[KnightTemplar extremist lunatics]] who cause suffering to innocent people on ''both'' sides.



** The ponies see humans as savage brutes. The humans see the ponies as xenophobic conquerors and despots. How right each side is depends on the story in question.

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** The ponies see humans as savage brutes. The humans see the ponies as xenophobic conquerors and despots. How right each Which side is right depends on the story in question.



* PyrrhicVictory: Deconstruction stories that have the ponies successfully turn Earth into a Neo-Equestria and all of humanity into newfoals go out of their way to show how ruinous victory would really be for them on a social and economic level. ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/29404/the-conversion-bureau-the-price-of-generosity The Price of Generosity]]'' is one such example.

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* PyrrhicVictory: Deconstruction stories that have the ponies successfully turn Earth into a Neo-Equestria and all of humanity into newfoals go out of their way to show how ruinous victory would really be for them on a social and economic level. level.
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''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/29404/the-conversion-bureau-the-price-of-generosity The Price of Generosity]]'' is one such example. The barrier wiped everything out, and it turns out that colonizing Earth was much harder than the ponies anticipated, with their resources being stretched to the breaking point. This in turn left the newfoals having to figure things out on their own with little support, and as a result, self-preservation overrode their programming almost completely and they started building their own countries based on the original human ones and their political systems. And with news reports of newfoals raiding Equestrian ships and trains for food and other supplies, it's implied that even the part of the potion meant to curb human aggression no longer works.



** In ''The Other Side of the Spectrum'', it's made clear that this will be the end result for TCB!Equestria if humanity and its allies are all assimilated. The Solar Empire is already [[FascistButInefficient collapsing under its own weight]] of waging a near {{hopeless war}} against the [[HumansAreWarriors humans]] and dealing with a '''massive''' population boom while having little resources available to support them; victory will only exacerbate the problem.

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** In ''The Other Side of the Spectrum'', it's made clear that this will be the end result for TCB!Equestria Imperial Equestria if humanity and its allies are all assimilated. The Solar Empire is already [[FascistButInefficient collapsing under its own weight]] of waging a near {{hopeless war}} against the [[HumansAreWarriors humans]] and while simultaneously dealing with a '''massive''' population boom while and having little resources available to support them; victory will only exacerbate the problem.

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Complicating that, however, is that ponification--as the process is called--is heavily debated both in- and out-of-universe. In-universe, this leads to [[KnightTemplar ideologues forming terrorist groups]]. One, the Human Liberation Front (HLF), is violently anti-pony; the other, Ponification for Earth's Rebirth (PER), sees ponification as a sacrament which absolves humans of their vices, and which should be given to every human on the planet, [[BalefulPolymorph whether they like it or not]].

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Complicating that, however, is that ponification--as the process is called--is heavily debated both in- and out-of-universe. In-universe, this leads to [[KnightTemplar ideologues forming terrorist groups]]. One, the Human Liberation Front (HLF), is violently anti-pony; the other, Ponification for Earth's Rebirth (PER), sees ponification as a sacrament which absolves humans of their vices, and which should be given to every human on the planet, [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation whether they like it or not]].



* AffablyEvil: Many members of the Ponification for Earth's Rebirth (PER) movement meet this description. They are almost unfailingly friendly and polite, and will ''usually'' begin a conversation with a human by trying to reason with them and convince them that getting converted is the best choice. [[BalefulPolymorph If the human disagrees, however...]]

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* AffablyEvil: Many members of the Ponification for Earth's Rebirth (PER) movement meet this description. They are almost unfailingly friendly and polite, and will ''usually'' begin a conversation with a human by trying to reason with them and convince them that getting converted is the best choice. [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation If the human disagrees, however...]]



* BalefulPolymorph: Some stories have forced ponification as a response to the Human Liberation Front and humans that like being humans. Ponies usually see it as better alternative to killing them, but those getting changed tend to disagree.
** Any story featuring the PER will involve this as well.



* ForcedTransformation: Some stories have forced ponification as a response to the Human Liberation Front and humans that like being humans. Ponies usually see it as better alternative to killing them, but those getting changed tend to disagree.



* MoreThanMindControl: In some fics, the ponified humans are more than happy to [[BalefulPolymorph forcibly ponify]] any humans. Even if they were once friends and family.

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* MoreThanMindControl: In some fics, the ponified humans are more than happy to [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation forcibly ponify]] any humans. Even if they were once friends and family.



* TechnicalPacifist: On paper, the PER is ''biologically prevented'' from harming humans. In reality, they find quite a few ways around this: BalefulPolymorph is their hat, obviously, but they also have no problem forcibly converting humans under hazardous conditions or with experimental, unstable serum versions. Both circumstances can, and often do, lead to death.

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* TechnicalPacifist: On paper, the PER is ''biologically prevented'' from harming humans. In reality, they find quite a few ways around this: BalefulPolymorph ForcedTransformation is their hat, obviously, but they also have no problem forcibly converting humans under hazardous conditions or with experimental, unstable serum versions. Both circumstances can, and often do, lead to death.

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* AssimilationPlot: Celestia's ponification crusade.

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* {{MST}}: Most notably, there's one by the same people who are riffing on the first draft of ''Fanfic/PastSins''.



* TheSocialDarwinist: The whole ponification thing has more than a few similarities to a eugenics program.
* WishFulfillment: Per WordOfGod, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/26347 one of the reasons]] why Blaze wrote this fic.

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%% * TheSocialDarwinist: The whole ponification thing has more than a few similarities to a eugenics program.
%% * WishFulfillment: Per WordOfGod, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/26347 one of the reasons]] why Blaze wrote this fic.
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You Keep Using That Word is only about characters being called out In Universe for misusing a word.


* YouKeepUsingThatWord: The substance that turns a human into a Pony is called a "serum", which more properly is the fluid that blood cells travel in, and is used for medical purposes when containing antibodies.

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* YouKeepUsingThatWord: The substance that turns a human into a Pony is called a "serum", which more properly is the fluid that blood cells travel in, and is used for medical purposes when containing antibodies.
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** Taken UpToEleven in ''Option Gamma'' where the humans are ''horribly'' outmatched by ''all Equestrian species''.

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** Taken UpToEleven in In ''Option Gamma'' where Gamma'', the humans are ''horribly'' outmatched by ''all Equestrian species''.

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