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* DemotedToExtra: Su-Han appears in one chapter before swiftly being dealt with, mostly because the heroes refuse to let the Kwami go back to the conditions they were stuck in and because he has no plans to deal with Hawkmoth. Thus, the heroes [[AlwaysABiggerFish call the Dragon Lady on him]]. While he's not ''dead'', he's in no position to reenter the story.
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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "open relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. Not to mention that when Chlo&eacute accused her of doing this because she wasn't "exceptional" enough, she outright confirmed it. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.

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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "open relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. Not to mention that when Chlo&eacute Chloé accused her of doing this because she wasn't "exceptional" enough, she outright confirmed it. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.
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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "open relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.

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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "open relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. Not to mention that when Chlo&eacute accused her of doing this because she wasn't "exceptional" enough, she outright confirmed it. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.
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*** In addition to all of them, there are several other costumes mentioned, such as other Mario cosplayers, a Franchise/SpiderMan cosplayer, a [[Franchise/{{Danganronpa}} Junko Enoshima]] cosplayer and Costume Change was revealed to be someone from ''Hetalia''.
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The stories in this AU can be found [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/1533146 here]]. Other material that ties into the AU can be found on the writer's Tumblr [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/Hero-Chat-AU here]] and [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hero-chat here]]. The [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-twitter hc twitter]] tag also has related material. The tag [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-answers hc answers]] is a mix of canon and obviously non-canon material.

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The stories in this AU can be found [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/1533146 here]]. Other material that ties into the AU can be found on the writer's Tumblr [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/Hero-Chat-AU com/tagged/Hero%20Chat%20AU here]] and [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hero-chat com/tagged/hero%20chat here]]. The [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-twitter com/tagged/hc%20twitter hc twitter]] tag also has related material. The tag [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-answers com/tagged/hc%20answers hc answers]] is a mix of canon and obviously non-canon material.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Costume Change was akumatized because he lost to a black woman dressed as Junko Enoshima in a cosplay contest, and his immediate reaction to seeing Rena Rouge dressed as Ladybug after he's been de-akumatized is to roll his eyes and tell her Ladybug isn't black, earning him the ire of both the team and several spectators.

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Costume Change was akumatized because he lost to a black woman dressed as [[Franchise/{{Danganronpa}} Junko Enoshima Enoshima]] in a cosplay contest, and his immediate reaction to seeing Rena Rouge dressed as Ladybug after he's been de-akumatized is to roll his eyes and tell her Ladybug isn't black, earning him the ire of both the team and several spectators.

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* BecomingTheCostume: The akuma Costume Change has the ability to do this, and is unleashed upon a fan convention. Since the Miraculous team was undercover there in cosplay, they end up using both their regular abilities and their newly-acquired ones to take him down.



* DidntThinkThisThrough: This applies to Lila's lies in general, though special mention goes to her attempts to frame Marinette for cheating, assault, and theft, which all quickly fall flat.
** Lila steals the answer sheet for a mock exam, plants the stolen answer sheet in Marinette's bag, then leaves an anonymous note tipping off Ms. Bustier. [[spoiler: When Ms. Bustier finds the answer sheet in Marinette’s bag, the rest of the class quickly defends Marinette, insisting that it isn’t like Marinette to cheat, and that she wouldn’t need to anyway because she always does well in the class. Chloé in particular points out that stealing an answer sheet just to cheat on a mock exam that doesn't even count for a grade is very risky and clearly not worth the minimal rewards, especially for a top student like Marinette. She also notes that if Marinette had stolen the test answers, she would’ve thrown them away immediately after the exam rather than still hang on to such incriminating evidence long after the exam was over. Even Ms. Bustier silently concedes that the evidence against Marinette makes no sense]].
** Lila’s plan to frame Marinette of assault involved just collapsing at the bottom of the stairs while Marinette is at the top, then screaming to draw people’s attention. [[spoiler: She didn’t seem to consider how falling down an entire flight of stairs would result in serious injuries, which she would also need evidence of. It doesn’t take very long for everyone to realize she’s completely uninjured, and that her fall was faked]].
** To frame Marinette of theft, Lila leaves her foxtail pendant in Marinette's locker, then accuses her of stealing Lila's family heirloom necklace. [[spoiler: However, her foxtail pendant is actually from the previous year's Agreste jewelry line, something that Chloé recognizes almost instantly. Thus, the class is able to convince the staff with relative ease that the necklace in Marinette's locker was really a present from Adrien, and that Lila mistook it for her own necklace]].
** Downplayed with her claim about having a lying disease. [[spoiler: While it does save her from the bigger, more immediate problem of being confronted by her classmates and the staff for framing Marinette of theft, assault, and cheating, it also vindicates Marinette’s previous accusations of Lila being a liar. Moreover, it also gives Marinette and the rest of the class opportunities to cast doubt on Lila’s stories without looking like jerks, as they’re now able to pass it off as concern that her disease is acting up]].

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This applies to Lila's lies in general, though special mention goes to her attempts to frame Marinette for cheating, assault, and theft, which all quickly fall flat.
** *** Lila steals the answer sheet for a mock exam, plants the stolen answer sheet in Marinette's bag, then leaves an anonymous note tipping off Ms. Bustier. [[spoiler: When Ms. Bustier finds the answer sheet in Marinette’s bag, the rest of the class quickly defends Marinette, insisting that it isn’t like Marinette to cheat, and that she wouldn’t need to anyway because she always does well in the class. Chloé in particular points out that stealing an answer sheet just to cheat on a mock exam that doesn't even count for a grade is very risky and clearly not worth the minimal rewards, especially for a top student like Marinette. She also notes that if Marinette had stolen the test answers, she would’ve thrown them away immediately after the exam rather than still hang on to such incriminating evidence long after the exam was over. Even Ms. Bustier silently concedes that the evidence against Marinette makes no sense]].
** *** Lila’s plan to frame Marinette of assault involved just collapsing at the bottom of the stairs while Marinette is at the top, then screaming to draw people’s attention. [[spoiler: She didn’t seem to consider how falling down an entire flight of stairs would result in serious injuries, which she would also need evidence of. It doesn’t take very long for everyone to realize she’s completely uninjured, and that her fall was faked]].
** *** To frame Marinette of theft, Lila leaves her foxtail pendant in Marinette's locker, then accuses her of stealing Lila's family heirloom necklace. [[spoiler: However, her foxtail pendant is actually from the previous year's Agreste jewelry line, something that Chloé recognizes almost instantly. Thus, the class is able to convince the staff with relative ease that the necklace in Marinette's locker was really a present from Adrien, and that Lila mistook it for her own necklace]].
** *** Downplayed with her claim about having a lying disease. [[spoiler: While it does save her from the bigger, more immediate problem of being confronted by her classmates and the staff for framing Marinette of theft, assault, and cheating, it also vindicates Marinette’s previous accusations of Lila being a liar. Moreover, it also gives Marinette and the rest of the class opportunities to cast doubt on Lila’s stories without looking like jerks, as they’re now able to pass it off as concern that her disease is acting up]].up]].
** Hawk Moth gets this reaction from the team in regards to Costume Change. Essentially, he thought giving an akuma the power to inflict BecomingTheCostume on people and not much else combat-wise was a good idea...and said akuma was unleashed upon a fan convention, where ''many'' people were dressed as characters who could have easily kicked his ass, let alone the ones already cosplaying as Paris' heroes.


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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Costume Change was akumatized because he lost to a black woman dressed as Junko Enoshima in a cosplay contest, and his immediate reaction to seeing Rena Rouge dressed as Ladybug after he's been de-akumatized is to roll his eyes and tell her Ladybug isn't black, earning him the ire of both the team and several spectators.
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The story focuses on a group chat created by the Miraculous Holders to discuss both professional and personal troubles. Said group chat was created because the heroes aren't able to meet out of costume because of rules requiring they adhere to the secret part of SecretIdentity. As a result the heroes gain an outlet for the frustrations in their lives and receive advice for how to cope with their hardships. ''That'' results in a number of changes to canon and things going quite differently for the heroes.

The stories in this AU can be found [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/1533146 here]]. Other material that ties into the AU can be found at the writer's Tumblr [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/Hero-Chat-AU here]] and [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hero-chat here]]. The [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-twitter hc twitter]] tag also has related material. The tag [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-answers hc answers]] is a mix of canon and obviously non-canon material.

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The story focuses on a group chat created by the Miraculous Holders to discuss both professional and personal troubles. Said group chat was created because the heroes aren't able to meet out of costume because of rules requiring they adhere to the secret part of SecretIdentity. As a result result, the heroes gain an outlet for the frustrations in their lives and receive advice for on how to cope with their hardships. ''That'' results in a number of changes to canon and things going quite differently for the heroes.

The stories in this AU can be found [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/1533146 here]]. Other material that ties into the AU can be found at on the writer's Tumblr [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/Hero-Chat-AU here]] and [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hero-chat here]]. The [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-twitter hc twitter]] tag also has related material. The tag [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/tagged/hc-answers hc answers]] is a mix of canon and obviously non-canon material.



** Chloé is great deal more kind and legitimately heroic here than she is in canon, where she outright refused to accept that she needed to change in the least and stayed the same AlphaBitch she started as.

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** Chloé is a great deal more kind and legitimately heroic here than she is in canon, where she outright refused to accept that she needed to change in the least and stayed the same AlphaBitch she started as.



* BrickJoke: Chapter 20 sees Alya give an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAEid2HlO2k Eggman Pisses on the Moon]]-inspired rant after Hawkmoth's latest Akuma interrupted her latest ZanyScheme for Marinette to confess her love to Adrien[[note]]I’ve come to make an announcement: Hawkmoth is a bitch ass motherfucker. He pissed on my fucking day! He took his butterfly-fuckin Akuma dick out and he pissed on my fucking day. And he said his dick was “this big”! And I said “that’s disgusting!”. So I’m making a callout post in this groupchat: Hawkmoth, you’ve got a small dick. It’s the size of this walnut except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here’s what my dong looks like! That’s right baby, tall flute, no Akumas, no pillows – look at that, it looks like two balls and a bong! He fucked my day, so guess what? I’m gonna fuck his week! That’s right, this is what you get my SUPER LAZER PISS!!! Except I’m not gonna piss on his week, I’m gonna go higher!! I’m pissing ON HIS LIFE! How do you like that Mayura?! I PISSED ON HIS LIFE, YOU IDIOT!!! You have 23 hours before the piss droplets hit the fucking Eiffel Tower! Now get out of my fucking sight, before I piss on you too![[/note]]. In Chapter 26, after dreaming of the events of Chat Blanc, Adrien told Marinette that he blamed Alya's rant for what happened to the Moon, because it looked like some of her super lazer piss had damaged it.

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* BrickJoke: Chapter 20 sees Alya give an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAEid2HlO2k Eggman Pisses on the Moon]]-inspired rant after Hawkmoth's latest Akuma interrupted her latest ZanyScheme for Marinette to confess her love to Adrien[[note]]I’ve come to make an announcement: Hawkmoth is a bitch ass motherfucker. He pissed on my fucking day! He took his butterfly-fuckin Akuma dick out and he pissed on my fucking day. And he said his dick was “this big”! And I said “that’s disgusting!”. So I’m making a callout post in this groupchat: Hawkmoth, you’ve got a small dick. It’s the size of this walnut except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here’s what my dong looks like! That’s right baby, tall flute, no Akumas, no pillows – look at that, it looks like two balls and a bong! He fucked my day, so guess what? I’m gonna fuck his week! That’s right, this is what you get my SUPER LAZER PISS!!! Except I’m not gonna piss on his week, I’m gonna go higher!! I’m pissing ON HIS LIFE! How do you like that Mayura?! I PISSED ON HIS LIFE, YOU IDIOT!!! You have 23 hours before the piss droplets hit the fucking Eiffel Tower! Now get out of my fucking sight, before I piss on you too![[/note]]. In Chapter 26, after dreaming of the events of Chat Blanc, Adrien told Marinette that he blamed Alya's rant for what happened to the Moon, Moon because it looked like some of her super lazer piss had damaged it.



** She believes that NASA didn't land on the moon, and that they hired Stanley Kubrick to fake it...but his attention to detail was so strong that they faked it ''on the moon!'' In her defense, Nino says that that particular conspiracy ''would'' have been something Kubrick would do, and is somewhat believed anyway.

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** She believes that NASA didn't land on the moon, moon and that they hired Stanley Kubrick to fake it...but his attention to detail was so strong that they faked it ''on the moon!'' In her defense, Nino says that that particular conspiracy ''would'' have been something Kubrick would do, and is somewhat believed anyway.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Gabriel is a supervillain who has been terrorizing Paris for a while and also happens to an [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive]] ControlFreak. However, he never once attempts to interfere with Adrien's love life, in spite of how unorthodox it is and is in fact quite supportive of it. Part of the reason he turns back into the Collector during the Winter Gala arc was because he overheard people insulting the relationship.
* EvenTheGirlsWantHer: Marinette. The group figures out that Marinette is the mysterious balcony girl Chat is enamored with and half-jokingly tell him that the only people who don't at some point get a crush on her are either people who are 100% into men (Max takes this as confirmation of him being gay) or have no soul (Chloé puts Lila into this category). Some of the girls in the chat (Alya, Chloé, and Alix) admit to having been attracted to her at some point and Kagami realizes she falls into the same category.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Gabriel is a supervillain who has been terrorizing Paris for a while and also happens to an [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive]] ControlFreak. However, he never once attempts to interfere with Adrien's love life, in spite of how unorthodox it is and is in fact quite supportive of it. Part of the reason he turns back into the Collector during the Winter Gala arc was because that he overheard people insulting the relationship.
* EvenTheGirlsWantHer: Marinette. The group figures out that Marinette is the mysterious balcony girl Chat is enamored with and half-jokingly tell tells him that the only people who don't at some point get a crush on her are either people who are 100% into men (Max takes this as confirmation of him being gay) or have no soul (Chloé puts Lila into this category). Some of the girls in the chat (Alya, Chloé, and Alix) admit to having been attracted to her at some point and Kagami realizes she falls into the same category.



* FailedASpotCheck: When Juleka tells the other on the chat on how Lila's most recent lie had just hurt Rose and that she is sharing her phone with her, the others catch Zoé up to speed about Lila, including her lie about being Ladybug's BFF and having the Fox pendant and how Marinette (Ladybug) and Alya (the true Fox Miraculous holder) get annoyed hearing that. They said this ''after'' Juleka warns them of Rose joining in, meaning she finds out that they are heroes. Of course, they end up adding Rose to their group since Marinette was planning to give her a Miraculous in the near future anyway.

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* FailedASpotCheck: When Juleka tells the other on the chat on how Lila's most recent lie had just hurt Rose and that she is sharing her phone with her, the others catch Zoé up to speed about Lila, including her lie about being Ladybug's BFF and having the Fox pendant and how Marinette (Ladybug) and Alya (the true Fox Miraculous holder) get annoyed hearing that. They said this ''after'' Juleka warns them of Rose joining in, meaning she finds out that they are heroes. Of course, they end up adding Rose to their group since Marinette was planning to give her a Miraculous in the near future anyway.



* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more concerned about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.

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* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, heroes and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more concerned about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, training but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.



* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé'' to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).

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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in a position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) out?), Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi (paparazzo got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé'' to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).



* OhCrapThereAreFanficsOfUs: The heroes have very mixed opinions on the fanfics of them, especially the ones that are unknowingly shipping them with their civilian selves.

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* OhCrapThereAreFanficsOfUs: The heroes have very mixed opinions on the fanfics of them, especially the ones that are unknowingly [[ScrewYourself shipping them with their civilian selves.selves]].



** [[spoiler:In ''The Winter Gala'', it's revealed that prior to the main story that Gabriel and Emilie had discussed about Nathalie's feeling for the two of them as well as their feelings for her, implying they wanted to start a polygamous relationship with her. However, that was put on hold after Emile fell to her illness. After a present day discussion, both Gabriel and Nathalie agree that they won't act on their feelings until she is brought back to them]].

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** [[spoiler:In ''The Winter Gala'', it's revealed that prior to the main story that Gabriel and Emilie had discussed about Nathalie's feeling feelings for the two of them as well as their feelings for her, implying they wanted to start a polygamous relationship with her. However, that was put on hold after Emile fell to her illness. After a present day present-day discussion, both Gabriel and Nathalie agree that they won't act on their feelings until she is brought back to them]].



* RevengeMyopia: A common component of You Brought This On Your Own Damn Self akumatizations (along with doing something ''really'' stupid)- the akumatized person is mad because they suffered reasonable consequences for something that they themselves caused. The author gives as examples Lady Wifi (broke into Chloé's locker, got punished for it), Pixelator (got kicked out of a hotel for being a paparazzi), and Volpina (got called out on her lies).

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* RevengeMyopia: A common component of You Brought This On Your Own Damn Self akumatizations (along with doing something ''really'' stupid)- the akumatized person is mad because they suffered reasonable consequences for something that they themselves caused. The author gives as examples Lady Wifi (broke into Chloé's locker, got punished for it), Pixelator (got kicked out of a hotel for being a paparazzi), paparazzo), and Volpina (got called out on her lies).



* SelfFulfillingProphecy: PlayedForLaughs. After a dream where Ladybug has to stepped down because she was pregnant and Team Miraculous spent forever fighting on who would take her place, Chloé nominates herself to take Ladybug's place if the latter goes on a maternity leave. This leads to Alya saying that she wants to be the backup Ladybug and will fight Chloé for the post, followed by Kagami (since she looks like Ladybug the most), then Kim (since he wants to join in on the challenge), and then Alix (because she thinks Kim as Ladybug will be a bad idea).
* SetSwordsToStun: Chat Noir explains Cataclysm works like this. It only does as much damage as he intends (such as damaging objects in such a manner as they fall or break in the way he wants). So if it is used on a living person he has to actually intend on killing them otherwise it will merely just hurt them as much he actually intends on.

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* SelfFulfillingProphecy: PlayedForLaughs. After a dream where Ladybug has to stepped step down because she was pregnant and Team Miraculous spent forever fighting on who would take her place, Chloé nominates herself to take Ladybug's place if the latter goes on a maternity leave. This leads to Alya saying that she wants to be the backup Ladybug and will fight Chloé for the post, followed by Kagami (since she looks like Ladybug the most), then Kim (since he wants to join in on the challenge), and then Alix (because she thinks Kim as Ladybug will be a bad idea).
* SetSwordsToStun: Chat Noir explains Cataclysm works like this. It only does as much damage as he intends (such as damaging objects in such a manner as they fall or break in the way he wants). So if it is used on a living person he has to actually intend on killing them otherwise it will merely just hurt them as much as he actually intends on.



** Alya and Nino chatting with Ladybug on a near daily basis allows them to find out how deep Ladybug's fixation with keeping secret identities goes, almost bordering on paranoia. This made them realize that since no one knows Ladybug's secret identity and Ladybug would never become close friends with a civilian while in costume, Lila's claim of being Ladybug's BFF becomes extremely dubious at best.

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** Alya and Nino chatting with Ladybug on a near daily near-daily basis allows them to find out how deep Ladybug's fixation with keeping secret identities goes, almost bordering on paranoia. This made them realize that since no one knows Ladybug's secret identity and Ladybug would never become close friends with a civilian while in costume, Lila's claim of being Ladybug's BFF becomes extremely dubious at best.



** At the start of the New York special, Sabrina confesses to Chloé that she knows Lila is a liar, since Lila told Sabrina that Audrey "was concerned about Chloé" and "wants to make up with her." Since Audrey is a textbook case of AbusiveParents in the verbal sense, and Sabrina knows this, it instantly killed most of the admiration she had for the girl.

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** At the start of the New York special, Sabrina confesses to Chloé that she knows Lila is a liar, liar since Lila told Sabrina that Audrey "was concerned about Chloé" and "wants to make up with her." Since Audrey is a textbook case of AbusiveParents in the verbal sense, and Sabrina knows this, it instantly killed most of the admiration she had for the girl.



* ThatCameOutWrong: After Luka reveals Juleka caught him transforming into Viperion, Marinette states that Juleka is moving up the list. Max and Alix thinks she means a hit list, while Kagami believes it's another sleep-deprived rant. Marinette then states it's a ''future teammate list'', as in planning to select Juleka as a future Miraculous wielder sooner since she knows about Luka.

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* ThatCameOutWrong: After Luka reveals Juleka caught him transforming into Viperion, Marinette states that Juleka is moving up the list. Max and Alix thinks think she means a hit list, while Kagami believes it's another sleep-deprived rant. Marinette then states it's a ''future teammate list'', as in planning to select Juleka as a future Miraculous wielder sooner since she knows about Luka.



* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Expanded on, as Marinette informs the new Miraculous wielders what their Kwamis like to eat. Aside from Tikki's canon taste for cookies and Plagg's love affair with Camembert, Pollen likes honey, Trixx likes berries (and Alya's mother's cooking), Wayzz likes tea, Sass likes boiled eggs, Kaalki likes sugarcubes, and Longg likes spicy food. Everyone agrees that these are all perfectly logical favorites that are not particularly difficult for the heroes to obtain...except for Plagg's stupid cheese.

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* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Expanded on, as Marinette informs the new Miraculous wielders what their Kwamis like to eat. Aside from Tikki's canon taste for cookies and Plagg's love affair with Camembert, Pollen likes honey, Trixx likes berries (and Alya's mother's cooking), Wayzz likes tea, Sass likes boiled eggs, Kaalki likes sugarcubes, sugar cubes, and Longg likes spicy food. Everyone agrees that these are all perfectly logical favorites that are not particularly difficult for the heroes to obtain...except for Plagg's stupid cheese.



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Zoé's arrival in chapter 62. Zoé had been told by her and Chloé's mother, Audrey, that the Mayor and her had an open relationship and that they knew that Zoé existed. So when Zoé showed up on their doorstep asking for a break from New York, no big deal, right? Wrong. The Mayor and Chloé had no idea that Audrey had been cheating on the Mayor, much less with so many people. Not only did it rip off the rose-tinted glasses the Mayor was wearing regarding his wife (and leading him to start drawing up divorce papers), but now Chloé isn't sure who her biological father actually is. Zoé didn't intend any of that.

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Zoé's arrival in chapter 62. Zoé had been told by her and Chloé's mother, Audrey, mother Audrey that she and the Mayor and her had an open relationship and that they knew that Zoé existed. So when Zoé showed up on their doorstep asking for a break from New York, no big deal, right? Wrong. The Mayor and Chloé had no idea that Audrey had been cheating on the Mayor, much less with so many people. Not only did it rip off the rose-tinted glasses the Mayor was wearing regarding his wife (and leading him to start drawing up divorce papers), but now Chloé isn't sure who her biological father actually is. Zoé didn't intend any of that.



* VillainHasAPoint: The first category for reasons for being Akumatized is "Valid" where the victim is perfectly justified in being upset. [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/post/188216189057/how-valid-is-your-reason-for-akumatization-yeah The tumblr post ranking every Akuma by Chloé's motive categories]] includes Alix as Timebreaker (people breaking a heirloom she'd just received), Wang Cheng as Kung Food (was sabotaged in a very important international contest), and Luka as Silencer (Bob Roth stole his band's work and taunted him about it). Chat Noir hopes that if he's ever akumatized he falls into this category, but also admits that Hawk Moth might just catch him on a bad day when he's fed up with how much Camembert Plagg eats or something.
* VillainRespect: Surprisingly, Gabriel shoots down Lila's accusations that Marinette is just using Adrien to get into the fashion biz. This is due to her already having connections within the industry by her own merits to the point even Audrey is impressed enough to want to have her as an intern. Gabriel even is considering hiring her eventually lest she get snatched up by the competition or become a rival in the industry herself.

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* VillainHasAPoint: The first category for reasons for being Akumatized is "Valid" where the victim is perfectly justified in being upset. [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/post/188216189057/how-valid-is-your-reason-for-akumatization-yeah The tumblr post ranking every Akuma by Chloé's motive categories]] includes Alix as Timebreaker (people breaking a an heirloom she'd just received), Wang Cheng as Kung Food (was sabotaged in a very important international contest), and Luka as Silencer (Bob Roth stole his band's work and taunted him about it). Chat Noir hopes that if he's ever akumatized he falls into this category, but also admits that Hawk Moth might just catch him on a bad day when he's fed up with how much Camembert Plagg eats or something.
* VillainRespect: Surprisingly, Gabriel shoots down Lila's accusations that Marinette is just using Adrien to get into the fashion biz. This is due to her already having connections within the industry by on her own merits to the point even Audrey is impressed enough to want to have her as an intern. Gabriel even is considering hiring her eventually lest she get snatched up by the competition or become a rival in the industry herself.



* YouWouldntBelieveMeIfIToldYou: PlayedForDrama. The reason Marinette never told her classmates about Lila's threats was because she couldn't be sure if they would dismiss her claims like her previous protests about Lila's lies. Her teammates are shocked to hear this, and quickly assure her that they would have believed Marinette if she told them about Lila threatening her.

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* YouWouldntBelieveMeIfIToldYou: PlayedForDrama. The reason Marinette never told her classmates about Lila's threats was because that she couldn't be sure if they would dismiss her claims like her previous protests about Lila's lies. Her teammates are shocked to hear this, and quickly assure her that they would have believed Marinette if she told them about Lila threatening her.
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*** At this point there's no way the events of season 5 can occur due to the fact Marinette has given out all but one of the Miraculous out and Felix is a hero in this story.

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** Chloé is an interesting example, since she ''was'' Queen Bee, but gave up being Queen Bee since it'd be dangerous for her to have a known secret identity. However, she ''then'' takes up the Bee Miraculous again, but takes on an entirely new secret identity. They have to do video editing and clever usage of the Fox Miraculous to convince people that Chloé is not the new bee (even though she is).

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** Chloé is an interesting example, since she ''was'' Queen Bee, but gave up being Queen Bee since it'd be dangerous for her to have a known secret identity. However, she ''then'' takes up the Bee Miraculous again, but takes on an entirely new secret identity. They have to do video editing and clever usage of the Fox Miraculous to convince people that Chloé is not the new bee (even though she is). Kagami is in a similar boat, having replaced herself with the same Miraculous.
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* YouAreInCommandNow: The group eventually decides if something happens to Marinette and/or Adrien, Chole gets the Ladybug Earrings and Kagami gets the Cat Ring.

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* YouAreInCommandNow: The group eventually decides if something happens to Marinette and/or Adrien, Chole Chloe gets the Ladybug Earrings and Kagami gets the Cat Ring.Ring. [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext This whole conversation started because Chloe had a dream about Marinette being pregnant]].
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* YouAreInCommandNow: The group eventually decides if something happens to Marinette and/or Adrien, Chole gets the Ladybug Earrings and Kagami gets the Cat Ring.
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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).

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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé ''Chloé'' to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).
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* ObliviouslyInLove: Chat Noir is as blockheaded as always when it comes to romantic feelings, insisting that "Balcony Girl" (Marinette) is "just a friend" while everyone else points out that all that affection and the nighttime balcony meetings are ''not'' things people do with normal friends.

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* ObliviouslyInLove: ObliviousToLove: Chat Noir is as blockheaded as always when it comes to romantic feelings, insisting that "Balcony Girl" (Marinette) is "just a friend" while everyone else points out that all that affection and the nighttime balcony meetings are ''not'' things people do with normal friends.
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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé]] to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).

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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional "how could you possibly think this would end well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''Chloé]] ''Chloé to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).
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** Nino and Alya again in Chapter 68 and Chapter 11 of Team Miraculous, when Shadowmoth and Sentibubbler invades the Cesaire home.

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** Nino and Alya again in Chapter 68 and Chapter 11 of Team Miraculous, when Shadowmoth and Sentibubbler invades invade the Cesaire home.
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* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more shocked about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.

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* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more shocked concerned about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.



* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional '[[WhatAnIdiot how could you possibly think this would end well]]', like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''[[AlphaBitch Chloé]]'' to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).
* ObliviousToLove: Chat Noir is as blockheaded as always when it comes to romantic feelings, insisting that 'balcony girl' (Marinette) is "just a friend" while everyone else points out that all that affection and the nighttime balcony meetings are ''not'' things people do with normal friends.

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* NeverMyFault: The fourth category of reason for being Akumatized is "You brought this on your own damn self", which is pretty much ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin- somebody who put themselves in position to be Akumatized (and thus take out their personal issues on the entirety of Paris). Usually, it's someone getting pissed that their actions have consequences, such as Volpina (maybe don't lie to people and you won't get humiliated when called out?) Lady Wifi (snooping in someone else's locker is a punishable offense, even if Chloé took it too far), and Pixellator (paparazzi got kicked out of a hotel he was snooping in), but there's also the occasional '[[WhatAnIdiot how "how could you possibly think this would end well]]', well?", like Princess Fragrance (Ask ''[[AlphaBitch Chloé]]'' ''Chloé]] to deliver a love letter? What could go wrong?).
* ObliviousToLove: ObliviouslyInLove: Chat Noir is as blockheaded as always when it comes to romantic feelings, insisting that 'balcony girl' "Balcony Girl" (Marinette) is "just a friend" while everyone else points out that all that affection and the nighttime balcony meetings are ''not'' things people do with normal friends.



* ParentsAsPeople: Adrien describes this as the case with his mother, fully supporting his father's ControlFreak approach to Adrien's life and just being better at explaining why they're doing what they do. The group's a bit shocked to learn this, having thought his mother was absent for most of his life but he clarifies that she's only been gone for roughly a year.

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* ParentsAsPeople: Adrien describes this as the case with his mother, fully supporting his father's ControlFreak approach to Adrien's life and just being better at explaining why they're doing what they do. The group's a bit shocked to learn this, having thought his mother was absent for most of his life life, but he clarifies that she's only been gone for roughly a year.
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** Felix is more in-line with his JerkWithAHeartOfGold self from the original preview. [[spoiler:It's later revealed that he is the hero Lord Winter as well]].

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** In canon, Marc uses the Rooster Miraculous while Nathanial has the Goat. Here, it's the other way around.
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* FixFic: Gives Chloé a proper redemption arc and brings the heroes closer together, while giving some of the series' IdiotPlot moments a proper explanation.

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* FixFic: Gives Chloé a proper redemption arc and brings the heroes closer together, while giving some of the series' IdiotPlot most complicated moments a proper explanation.
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* ExplainExplainOhCrap: Luka gets this when he realizes that, since his mom was in Jagged Stone's band, and she dropped out of the band because she got pregnant, Chloé's nickname of him being "Jagged Stone's Illegitimate Child," might hold more than a grain of truth. Chloé, who [[JokeAndReceive was just teasing him about looking similar to Jagged and playing the guitar]], is contrite. A few chapters later, it's revealed that Jagged actually is Luka's dad and is upset at Anarka for keeping it from him.

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* ExplainExplainOhCrap: Luka gets this when he realizes that, since his mom was in Jagged Stone's band, and she dropped out of the band because she got pregnant, Chloé's nickname of him being "Jagged Stone's Illegitimate Child," might hold more than a grain of truth. Chloé, who [[JokeAndReceive was just teasing him about looking similar to Jagged and playing the guitar]], is contrite. A few chapters later, it's revealed that Jagged actually is ''is'' Luka's dad and is upset at Anarka for keeping it from him.



* IHatePastMe: Implied with Chloé and Zoé when Luka tells them that the childhood dream that Wishmaker turn them into was to be what their mother Audrey approve...or in other words, acting just like her.

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* IHatePastMe: Implied with Chloé and Zoé when Luka tells them that the childhood dream that Wishmaker turn them into was to be what their mother Audrey approve...would approve of...or in other words, acting just like her.



* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more shock about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.

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* JustAKid: During the New York story, Majestia and Knight Owl are shocked to discover that the members of Team Miraculous are all teenagers, and argue that they shouldn't handle such dangerous powers without an adult guiding them. This frustrates the other heroes, and especially brings up old resentment that no other heroes came to help when Hawkmoth had first appeared. Later, Jess and Aeon explained that their parents were more shock shocked about how Team Miraculous were sent out to fight without any actual training, but were overall impressed that they were able to defeat the Akumas on their own.



** During the Winter Gala, Lila doesn't bother trying to keep up her [[BitchInSheepsClothing nice mask]] in front of the kids her age, because the group consist of those that already know her true nature (Marinette and Adrien), those that already hate her (Chloé and Kagami), those she can't get a read on because the former groups keep them apart (Zoé), and those she already had a bad first meeting with (Felix).
* PuppyDogEyes: Or Kitty Eyes, as Marinette describes Manon's ability to get her to make Akuma dolls, with former saying it's impossible to resist. Chloé finds that hard to believe as she built a resistance to Adrien's kitty eyes. Nino and Luka both account that Adrien's kitty eyes are hard to resist.

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** During the Winter Gala, Lila doesn't bother trying to keep up her [[BitchInSheepsClothing nice mask]] in front of the kids her age, because the group consist of those that who already know her true nature (Marinette and Adrien), those that who already hate her (Chloé and Kagami), those she can't get a read on because the former groups keep them apart (Zoé), and those she already had a bad first meeting with (Felix).
* PuppyDogEyes: Or Kitty Eyes, as Marinette describes Manon's ability to get her to make Akuma dolls, with the former saying it's impossible to resist. Chloé finds that hard to believe believe, as she built a resistance to Adrien's kitty eyes. Nino and Luka both account that Adrien's kitty eyes are hard to resist.



* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Chloé declares this as the reason why Marinette is an EvenTheGirlsWantHer DudeMagnet. She goes out of the way to be helpful and kind to anyone she meets so of course she's going to get admirers because of her kind nature.

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* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Chloé declares this as the reason why Marinette is an EvenTheGirlsWantHer DudeMagnet. She goes out of the way to be helpful and kind to anyone she meets meets, so of course she's going to get admirers because of her kind nature.



** At the start of the New York special, Sabrina confesses to Chloé that she knows Lila is a liar, since Lila told Sabrina that Audrey "Was concerned about Chloé" and "Wants to make up with her." Since Audrey is a textbook case of AbusiveParents in the verbal sense, and Sabrina knows this, it instantly killed most of the admiration she had for the girl.

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** At the start of the New York special, Sabrina confesses to Chloé that she knows Lila is a liar, since Lila told Sabrina that Audrey "Was "was concerned about Chloé" and "Wants "wants to make up with her." Since Audrey is a textbook case of AbusiveParents in the verbal sense, and Sabrina knows this, it instantly killed most of the admiration she had for the girl.
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These examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details. If you believe a removal was a mistake, please bring it up in the cleanup thread.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Adrien reveals to the group that his mother was fully supportive of his father's ControlFreak way of raising him when she was around, if better at communicating why she did it. The group is surprised by this but as Adrien points out Gabriel had been raising him that way for almost his whole life and his mother has only been gone for about the last year, so she would have known about it and Gabriel would have only been able to do so if she supported him in it.
** Despite the powers being incredible things literally channeling the abilities and energies of minor gods, the wielders are still teenagers. So they are more than willing to start playing with and experimenting on the powers, such as asking "Can we take these super suits off," or using the abilities to avoid public transport.
** The group is surprised to see a picture of Marinette with her hair down because she never has it like that. Nino points out it's a habit that's a result of living in a bakery so her hair doesn't get in the way when cooking.
** When the group finds out that Master Fu is IncompletelyTrained and his actions are indirectly responsible for the current mess with Hawkmoth, they're all rather livid. They might enjoy being heroes but they recognize how many problems they have to deal with because of his mistakes and aren't too happy basically running damage control for something he caused a century ago. They're also not too thrilled to find out he didn't complete his training because they were under the impression that he was a genuine wise mentor who had his reasons for his actions instead of a man who's basically been winging it to combat Hawkmoth.
** This [[https://princess-of-the-corner.tumblr.com/post/188213943342/hero-chat-lila-this-is-just-something-for-me-to Tumblr post]] goes into how Lila's lies would be plausible to the class:
*** The school has a disproportionate amount of students who have some fame in their own right (i.e. Adrien the supermodel, Chloé the mayor's daughter, the band Kitty Section), or have connections to famous people (for example, Rose and Prince Ali, Marinette and Jagged Stone). Lila is known to be the daughter of a diplomat, so it's believable that she could have connections of her own.
*** Lila gets away with her lies because everybody thinks it's someone else's job to fact-check her; for example, the students believe her about her disabilities and the trips she's taken because it's the school's job to get that confirmed. They ''are'' teenagers, after all, and Lila is charismatic and interesting, so they don't bother to be suspicious unless given a good reason. It's also implied that not ''all'' of the things she said were lies--she was really out of the country when she said she was, even if she didn't meet a prince. Marinette just jumped to a few conclusions after being burned.
*** Lila is able to declare YoureJustJealous about Marinette because from the class's point of view, they have no reason to distrust Lila, and Marinette is known to have a serious crush on Adrien that sometimes affects her judgement.
*** Adrien's base-breaking belief that Marinette shouldn't expose Lila comes down to a few separate factors. First, he genuinely ''doesn't know'' how bad she can be- Marinette hasn't told him the worst things she's done. Second, he's approaching it from the point of view of a celebrity; in his experience, actively debunking Lila's lies would take way too much effort and probably evoke the StreisandEffect, so it's better to wait for her to inevitably make a mistake and take herself out. In short, he's making a misjudgment because [[NoSocialSkills he doesn't actually know how to be a teenager]].
*** Finally, the characters are ''not'' hopelessly under Lila's spell like in most salt fics--once they notice inconsistencies with their stories (like Jagged Stone not ''having'' a cat in the first place), they start comparing notes and realizing how deep the deception went.
** Chapter 62 is the one that introduces Zoé, the material half-sister of Chloé, to the series...except this universe actually takes seriously the fact that Chloé's mom and dad's twentieth anniversary was only a short time ago, and the implications thereof in Zoé being practically the same age as Chloé. Chloé's father is ''furious'' and is readying divorce papers, since not only was she cheating on him in New York, she started an entire second family. It even raises questions of if the Mayor is really Chloé's father.
** When a member of the Order shows up and demands the Miraculous Box from Marinette in Chapter 61, she refuses to hand it over for several reasons, but the big one is that the Order member has no plan to deal with Hawkmoth. Naturally, Marinette is not going to give up Paris's only protection to someone who already rubbed her the wrong way.
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** Played for drama and black comedy in Chapter 65. The imprisoned supervillain Specter was bent on world domination via ZombieApocalypse, thanks to his necromancer powers. He is also the father of one [[spoiler:Lillian Lallivant aka the mother of [[ThePollyanna ROSE]]]] and was, by all reports, [[GoodParents an excellent father.]] They don't visit due to moral differences. The chat has to take a moment to process ''all'' of that. Zoé revises her conspiracy board.

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** Played for drama and black comedy in Chapter 65. The imprisoned supervillain Specter was bent on world domination via ZombieApocalypse, thanks to his necromancer powers. He is also the father of one [[spoiler:Lillian Lallivant aka the mother of [[ThePollyanna ROSE]]]] ''[[ThePollyanna Rose]]'']] and was, by all reports, [[GoodParents an excellent father.]] They don't visit due to moral differences. The chat has to take a moment to process ''all'' of that. Zoé revises her conspiracy board.
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** Once Sabrina joins the group, she gives a lesser version of this trope- her father believes that service to others is extremely important, so when she reveals that since she's no longer doing other people's homework for them (and thus has free time), he gets so upset that he gets akumatized over it. It's implied that this is at least part of the source of her issues.

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** Once Sabrina joins the group, she gives a lesser version of this trope- her trope--her father believes that service to others is extremely important, so when she reveals that since she's no longer doing other people's homework for them (and thus has free time), he gets so upset that he gets akumatized over it. It's implied that this is at least part of the source of her issues.



* CutenessProximity: Chloé has gone so far as to buy a expensive dollhouse for Pollen to live in, complete with clothes for her to wear, which she is disappointed that she can't show the others due to Kwami not showing up on cameras. She also tries to negotiate custody rights for Roarr after briefly using them to get away from Hawkmoth.

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* CutenessProximity: Chloé has gone so far as to buy a an expensive dollhouse for Pollen to live in, complete with clothes for her to wear, which she is disappointed that she can't show the others due to Kwami not showing up on cameras. She also tries to negotiate custody rights for Roarr after briefly using them to get away from Hawkmoth.



** Played for drama and black comedy in Chapter 65. The imprisoned supervillain Specter was bent on world domination via ZombieApocalypse, thanks to his necromancer powers. He is also the father of one [[spoiler:Lillian Lallivant aka the mother of [[ThePollyanna ROSE]]]] and was, by all reports, [[GoodParents an excellent father.]] They don't visit due to moral differences. The chat has to take a moment to process ALL of that. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Zoé revises her conspiracy board.]]

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** Played for drama and black comedy in Chapter 65. The imprisoned supervillain Specter was bent on world domination via ZombieApocalypse, thanks to his necromancer powers. He is also the father of one [[spoiler:Lillian Lallivant aka the mother of [[ThePollyanna ROSE]]]] and was, by all reports, [[GoodParents an excellent father.]] They don't visit due to moral differences. The chat has to take a moment to process ALL ''all'' of that. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Zoé revises her conspiracy board.]]



** [[spoiler:In ''The Winter Gala'', it's revealed that prior to the main story that Gabriel and Emille had discussed about Nathalie's feeling for the two of them as well as their feelings for her, implying they wanted to start a polygamous relationship with her. However, that was put on hold after Emille fell to her illness. After a present day discussion, both Gabriel and Nathalie agree that they won't act on their feelings until she is brought back to them]].

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** [[spoiler:In ''The Winter Gala'', it's revealed that prior to the main story that Gabriel and Emille Emilie had discussed about Nathalie's feeling for the two of them as well as their feelings for her, implying they wanted to start a polygamous relationship with her. However, that was put on hold after Emille Emile fell to her illness. After a present day discussion, both Gabriel and Nathalie agree that they won't act on their feelings until she is brought back to them]].
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* MaliciousMisnaming: The heroes have taken to calling Hawkmoth "Hawkcock."

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* MaliciousMisnaming: The heroes have taken to calling After it was pointed out that Hawkmoth "Hawkcock." with the Peacock Miraculous could have also been referred to as "Hawkcock" (as opposed to his actual name of Shadowmoth), the heroes decided to run with it out of sheer spite.
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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "Open Relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.

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** Audrey is very verbally and emotionally abusive, gaslighting Chloé, frequently getting her name wrong on purpose because "She's not exceptional," and more. A great deal of Chloé's issues stem from her mother, though see FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for more details. It comes to a head in chapter 62 when it's revealed that she has a second, secret family the whole time, lying that she has an "Open Relationship" "open relationship" and keeping her other daughter, Zoé, a secret. It's the final straw for the mayor and he begins drawing up papers to start the divorce proceedings.



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: The third category of reasons for being Akumatized is "Bruh what the f*ck" where the reason is just incomprehensible to anyone else but doesn't fall under any other category. This includes Mr. Pigeon (prevented from feeding pigeons in the park) and Otis Cesaire (got mad because a kid said he was faster than a jaguar).

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: The third category of reasons for being Akumatized is "Bruh what the f*ck" fuck" where the reason is just incomprehensible to anyone else but doesn't fall under any other category. This includes Mr. Pigeon (prevented from feeding pigeons in the park) and Otis Cesaire (got mad because a kid said he was faster than a jaguar).



** There's also some to the 'Adrien is starved for his model job' plot point. Yes, he's thin and on a strict diet, but he has a nutritionist who's making sure he's fed a healthy amount for a boy his age, and his activities as Chat Noir ''are'' taken into account. In fact, his nutritionist is having trouble making sure he's getting ''enough'' food, since his high metabolism only spikes higher once the superheroing is taken into account.

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** There's also some to the 'Adrien "Adrien is starved for his model job' job" plot point. Yes, he's thin and on a strict diet, but he has a nutritionist who's making sure he's fed a healthy amount for a boy his age, and his activities as Chat Noir ''are'' taken into account. In fact, his nutritionist is having trouble making sure he's getting ''enough'' food, since his high metabolism only spikes higher once the superheroing is taken into account.



-->'''Darkwing Duck''': Great. Gonna knock myself the fuck out.

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-->'''Darkwing Duck''': -->'''Zoé''': Great. Gonna knock myself the fuck out.



* MaliciousMisnaming: The heroes have taken to calling Hawkmoth "Hawkcock".

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* MaliciousMisnaming: The heroes have taken to calling Hawkmoth "Hawkcock". "Hawkcock."



* MoonLandingHoax: Zoé believes the old gag (or pretends to) that [=NASA=] "hired Creator/StanleyKubrick to fake the moon landing, but he was so dedicated that he filmed on the moon". Nino suggests "Kubrick totally would've done that. Which is why so many people believe it".

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* MoonLandingHoax: Zoé believes the old gag (or pretends to) that [=NASA=] "hired Creator/StanleyKubrick to fake the moon landing, but he was so dedicated that he filmed on the moon". moon." Nino suggests "Kubrick totally would've done that. Which is why so many people believe it".it."



* MysteryFiction: The students film their own murder mystery about a rich business man being murdered.

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* MysteryFiction: The students film their own murder mystery about a rich business man businessman being murdered.



* SherlockScan: Chloé figures out everyone's identities in this way; first, she identifies Ladybug as Marinette because of their similar personalities (Marinette has the InUniverseNickname 'Everyday Ladybug', it's not that much of a leap), along with the fact that Marinette dropped Tikki in front her once and she noticed the similarities between the kwami after meeting Pollen, and then sorting out who the other heroes are from the much smaller pool of 'people Marinette knows well enough to trust with a Miraculous'.

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* SherlockScan: Chloé figures out everyone's identities in this way; first, she identifies Ladybug as Marinette because of their similar personalities (Marinette has the InUniverseNickname 'Everyday Ladybug', "Everyday Ladybug," it's not that much of a leap), along with the fact that Marinette dropped Tikki in front her once and she noticed the similarities between the kwami after meeting Pollen, and then sorting out who the other heroes are from the much smaller pool of 'people Marinette knows well enough to trust with a Miraculous'.Miraculous."



** In a non username example, Adrien, Chloé, and Luka are all fans of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. They tried hosting a marathon with the rest of the team, but the others are terrified by the series's darker moments.

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** In a non username non-username example, Adrien, Chloé, and Luka are all fans of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. They tried hosting a marathon with the rest of the team, but the others are terrified by the series's darker moments.



* TemptingFate: In chapter 78. after an "angrybug" incident, the others convince Marinette to get some proper sleep, with Luka pointing out the world won't end if she goes to bed at a reasonable time. Chapter 79 and Chapter 16 of ''Team Miraculous'' has the majority of the team, including Marinette, trapped in their dreams.

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* TemptingFate: In chapter 78. 78, after an "angrybug" "Angrybug" incident, the others convince Marinette to get some proper sleep, with Luka pointing out the world won't end if she goes to bed at a reasonable time. Chapter 79 and Chapter 16 of ''Team Miraculous'' has the majority of the team, including Marinette, trapped in their dreams.



** Chloé says she figured out Chat Noir's secret identity by noticing the several similarities between him and Adrien and, after learning Chat is allergic to feathers, she decided "there’s no way all that is coincidence".

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** Chloé says she figured out Chat Noir's secret identity by noticing the several similarities between him and Adrien and, after learning Chat is allergic to feathers, she decided "there’s no way all that is coincidence".coincidence."
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** Gabriel chooses not to Actively try and make Marinette into a Akuma because he's certain while Adrien will come to forgive him once he explains his actions as Hawk Moth, turning Marinette into a Akuma would [[ThisIsUnforgivable something he'd never forgive him for]].

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** Gabriel chooses not to Actively actively try and to make Marinette into a Akuma an akuma because he's certain while Adrien will come to forgive him once he explains his actions as Hawk Moth, turning akumatizing Marinette into a Akuma would be [[ThisIsUnforgivable something he'd never forgive him for]].



-->'''Marinette''': ‘The [=WoRld=] woN’t End juST beCausE yoU Go tO bEd aT a [=ReaSOnaBlE=] [=TimE=]’\\
-->'''Luka''': ...\\

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-->'''Marinette''': ‘The 'The [=WoRld=] woN’t End juST beCausE yoU Go tO bEd aT a [=ReaSOnaBlE=] [=TimE=]’\\
[=TimE=]'
-->'''Luka''': ...\\
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* RightForTheWrongReasons: Chloé states that the only teens who wouldn't have had a crush on Marinette are those at are not into girls or are soulless, which she puts [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] in that category. It's implied that Chloé was right about Lila, though it's more to do that Lila is aromantic and can't develop romantic feelings for ''anyone''.

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* RightForTheWrongReasons: Chloé states that the only teens who wouldn't have had a crush on Marinette are those at that are not into girls or are soulless, which she and puts [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] in that the latter category. It's implied that Chloé was is right about Lila, though it's more to do with the fact that Lila is aromantic and can't develop romantic feelings for ''anyone''.

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