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* WhamShot: When Megatron attempts to decode the data hidden on the Golden Disk, rather than [[spoiler:a [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture message from]] [[WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne the first Megatron]] as in the original series, he sees ''himself''.]]
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* WhamShot: When Megatron attempts to decode the data hidden on the Golden Disk, rather than [[spoiler:a [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture message from]] [[WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the first Megatron]] as in the original series, he sees ''himself''.]]
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* AndShowItToYou: After [[spoiler:Terrorsaur apparently kills Razorbeast by throwing him into a floating mountain of energon, Skold takes advantage of a moment alone with him during a battle to literally tear out Terrorsaur's spark, later claiming to Waspinator that she doesn't know where Terrorsaur is]].
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*** There's also flying mountains of raw Energon, as the episode "Power Surge" famously depicted.
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*** There's also flying mountains of raw Energon, as the episode "Power Surge" famously depicted. Terrorsaur even gets to weaponize one of them like in the cartoon. Though in a much different way than he originally did.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Downplayed but according to [[spoiler: Nyx]], Predacons are naturally aggressive, which [[spoiler: Dinobot]] doesn't deny due to them starting out as a warrior caste. Though according to him, during times of peace they channel these impulses into things like athletics, law enforcement or even science due to it challenging old notions.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Downplayed but according to [[spoiler: Nyx]], Predacons are naturally aggressive, which [[spoiler: Dinobot]] doesn't deny due to them starting out as a warrior caste. Though according to him, during times of peace they channel these impulses into things like athletics, law enforcement or even science due to it challenging old notions. Skold actually averts this since, despite her incredible brute strength, she has a surprisingly gentle nature and is mostly interested in the arts. She only really opposes the Maximals due to the extreme bigotry she faced from them back on Cybertron.
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* SidingWithTheSuffering: Dinobot was already having his doubts about the Predacon cause, but what finally gets him to change sides is seeing his teammates torture Nyx for information and throw her out of the Darksyde after disabling her ability to transform or enter stasis lock so they can watch her slowly die of energon radiation. Dinobot's disgust leads to him saving Nyx and trapping the Predacons in the Darksyde so they can both escape.
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** The three racist Maximals who appear in Skold's flashback in Issue 9 appear to be Panther, Rhino and Manta Ray from the same Happy Meal toyline as the late, lamented Under 3. Strangely, Manta Ray was originally depicted as a Predacon, but this may be a mix up due to the Maximal Depth Charge turning into the same animal.
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* AdaptationDeviation: Unlike the original series, Dinobot doesn't defect from the Predacons at the very beginning and is still working with them.
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* AdaptationDeviation: AdaptationDeviation:
** Unlike the original series, Dinobot doesn't defect from the Predacons at the very beginning and is still working withthem.them.
** In the original cartoon the first protoform to join the Maximals was Tigatron. In this new version however, it's fan-favorite Razorbeast from the original IDW Beast Wars comics.
** Unlike the original series, Dinobot doesn't defect from the Predacons at the very beginning and is still working with
** In the original cartoon the first protoform to join the Maximals was Tigatron. In this new version however, it's fan-favorite Razorbeast from the original IDW Beast Wars comics.
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* AtLeastIAdmitIt: Rather, At Least ''They'' Admit It; Skold states at one point that she won't join the Maximals because she feels they hide their true natures behind noble intentions whereas at least with Megatron and the others she knows where she stands.
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* AtLeastIAdmitIt: Rather, At Least ''They'' Admit It; Skold states at one point that she won't join the Maximals because she feels [[BitchInSheepsClothing they hide their true natures behind noble intentions intentions]] whereas at least with Megatron and the others she knows where she stands.
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* AtLeastIAdmitIt: Rather, At Least ''They'' Admit It; Skold states at one point that she won't join the Maximals because she feels they hide their true natures behind noble intentions whereas at least with Megatron and the others she knows where she stands.
* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: After Skold [[spoiler:finds and activates Razorbeast's pod, she spends time bonding with him before he is injured in battle. Knowing that he wouldn't be a good fit for life in the Predacons, she takes him to the Maximal ship to be healed]].
* DramaPreservingHandicap: In Issue 9, Megatron reveals that he managed to transmit a reprogramming signal to the stasis pods while both ships were in orbit, [[spoiler:thus accounting for how Blackarachnia arrived on the planet as a Predacon]]. However, he notes that he cannot be sure how many pods were reprogrammed in this manner, and while [[spoiler:Blackarachnia]] has managed to transmit a recall signal to at least some of the pods, they will come down at random as there was no way to transmit the signal so that the pods would land near the Predacon base.
* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: Flashbacks in Issue 9 reveal that Skold was originally an artistic individual who enjoyed visiting museums, but when so many Maximals dismissed her as just another ruthless Predacon she was more willing to join Megatron's side.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Nyx is notably the only female Maximal in the entire original cast (while Skold is the only female Predacon), as Airazor is not
part of the crew of the Axalon (at least, not yet), while Blackarachnia would only join the Predacons in a later issue.
part of the crew of the Axalon (at least, not yet), while Blackarachnia would only join the Predacons in a later issue.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Nyx is notably the only female Maximal in the entire original cast (while Skold is the only female Predacon), as Airazor is not
not part of the crew of the Axalon (at least, not yet), while Blackarachnia would only join the Predacons in a later issue.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Nyx is notably the only female Maximal in the entire cast (while Skold is the only female Predacon), as neither Blackarachnia nor Airazor are part of the crew of the Axalon.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Nyx is notably the only female Maximal in the entire original cast (while Skold is the only female Predacon), as neither Blackarachnia nor Airazor are is not
part of the crew of theAxalon.Axalon (at least, not yet), while Blackarachnia would only join the Predacons in a later issue.
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* HelpMistakenForAttack: When chasing Blackarachnia through the Axalon Dinobot suddenly tackles Cheetor and Rattrap, Rattrap immediately accuses Dinobot of lying about joining their side until Dinobot points out that they were about to run into a tripwire left by the Predacon that had some grenades attached to it.
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* ThisMeansWar: The Maximals were largely content to only fight defensively but after Blackarachnia infiltrates the Axalon and causes all the pods in orbit to come planetside without set destinations (likely leading to the destruction of several protoforms in the process), Optimus decides to go on the offensive and hit the Predacons were it hurts.
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* WhamShot: When Megatron attempts to decode the data hidden on the Golden Disk, rather than [[spoiler:a [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture message from]] [[WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne the first Megatron]] as in the original series, he sees ''himself''.]]
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* WrestlerOfBeasts: In issue #4, Nyx is attacked by a creature resembling a saber-toothed tiger. As her weapons have been disabled, she tries to fight it off with a stick. This barely phases the animal who presses on its attack. Fortunately, Dinobot arrives to save Nyx by cracking the creature's neck and tossing it away.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Dinobot is a very skilled warrior but the main reason he was able to defeat all his old teammates at once the first time around was because none of them expected him to turn on them, giving him the element of surprise, but as Megatron points out, that isn't the case during their second battle. He's able to put up a good fight at first but not as well as before and facing multiple opponents at once leaves him vulnerable to a sneak attack which Tarantulas takes advantage of and impales him from behind then taking part in beating him while he's too injured to fight back.
** Following the above example. Suffering such severe damage has lasting consequences for Dinobot. Even with repairs he's lost much of his former strength and he doesn't know if he'll ever be able to return to his former self.
** Dinobot is a very skilled warrior but the main reason he was able to defeat all his old teammates at once the first time around was because none of them expected him to turn on them, giving him the element of surprise, but as Megatron points out, that isn't the case during their second battle. He's able to put up a good fight at first but not as well as before and facing multiple opponents at once leaves him vulnerable to a sneak attack which Tarantulas takes advantage of and impales him from behind then taking part in beating him while he's too injured to fight back.
** Following the above example. Suffering such severe damage has lasting consequences for Dinobot. Even with repairs he's lost much of his former strength and he doesn't know if he'll ever be able to return to his former self.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 7 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. At this time Dinobot was still [[spoiler:partially crippled from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back]]. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 7 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. At this time Dinobot was still [[spoiler:partially crippled from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back]]. Rattrap quickly notices the (offscreen) reaction from his team.
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* GothSpirals: Tarantulas' spider legs and Scorponk's tail are drawn tapering off into these thanks to the more cartoonish art style.
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* GothSpirals: Tarantulas' spider legs and Scorponk's tail are drawn tapering off into these thanks to the more cartoonish art style. Only applies to their robot modes and issues drawn by Josh Burcham.
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* KickThemWhileTheyAreDown: During Issue 6, after Tarantulas stabs Dinobot in the back in a sneak attack, Megatron and the other Predacons gleefully kick and beat Dinobot while he's down.
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* KickThemWhileTheyAreDown: During Issue 6, after Tarantulas stabs Dinobot in the back in a sneak attack, Megatron and the other Predacons sans Skold and Waspinator gleefully kick and beat Dinobot while he's down.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 6 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. At this time Dinobot was still [[spoiler:partially crippled from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back]]. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 6 7 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. At this time Dinobot was still [[spoiler:partially crippled from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back]]. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 6 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. Dinobot was still partially crippled at this point from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 6 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. At this time Dinobot was still partially [[spoiler:partially crippled at this point from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back.back]]. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* DudeNotFunny: Issue 6 has Rattrap commenting on Tarantulas reputation as "a real backstabber" during Dinobot's report on his former teammates. Dinobot was still partially crippled at this point from Tarantulas literally stabbing him through the back. Rattrap quickly notices the reaction from his team.
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* AmbiguousSituation: In the cartoon, the planet that the cast crashes on is eventually revealed to be Earth. In the comic, the writer has stated that they may not follow this story path and wants to keep the audience guessing. The comic eventually reveals more bizarre alien fauna not native to Earth, but the cartoon had its own share of alien activity because of the Vok's presence.
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* RealityEnsues: Dinobot gets angry at Tarantulas' dismissal of his orders and attempts to invoke rank but Tarantulas points out that they're all rogue agents which means that they are all outside the chain of command and Dinobot has no real power over him.
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* WrongGenreSavvy: Dinobot gets angry at Tarantulas' dismissal of his orders and attempts to invoke rank but Tarantulas points out that they're all rogue agents which means that they are all outside the chain of command and Dinobot has no real power over him.
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* EvilIsBigger: Megatron is absolutely huge compared to Optimus in this incarnation, able to comfortably hold him by the waist in his T. Rex hand, despite their original toys being roughly the same size. Their relative scale appears to be based on the original T. Rex Megatron toy vs. the mid 2000s ''Robot Masters'' Beast Convoy figure.
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* GothSpirals: Tarantulas' spider legs and Scorponk's tail are drawn tapering off into these thanks to the more cartoonish art style.
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* KickThemWhileTheyAreDown: During Issue 6, after Tarantulas stabs Dinobot in the back in a sneak attack, Megatron and the other Predacons gleefully kick and beat Dinobot while he's down.
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* GameBreakingInjury: Dinobot was initially portrayed as being so tough that he could take on all the Predacons with ease. However, in Issue 6, he gets stabbed in the back by Tarantulas and suffers a brutal beatdown at the hands of the his former teammates. He survives thanks to the Maximals but states that his wounds were grievous enough that he'll likely never be the fighter he was before.
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* Villain Decay: Averted; the writers apparently deliberately made the Predacons still dangerous by having Dinobot become permanently compromised in #6 after he made fools out of them in #3.
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* Villain Decay: Averted; the writers apparently deliberately made the Predacons still dangerous by having Dinobot become permanently compromised in #6 after he made fools out of them in #3.
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* GrievousHarmWithABody: In issue 3 when [[spoiler: Dinobot is fighting his former teammates he grabs Skold when she's in her snapping turtle mode and throws her with enough force to knock Megatron into the Darksyde]].
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* GrievousHarmWithABody: GrievousHarmWithABody:
** In issue 3 when [[spoiler: Dinobot is fighting his former teammates he grabs Skold when she's in her snapping turtle mode and throws her with enough force to knock Megatron into theDarksyde]].Darksyde]].
** In issue 6 Dinobot [[spoiler: tears off Waspinator's arm and clubs him with it]].
** In issue 3 when [[spoiler: Dinobot is fighting his former teammates he grabs Skold when she's in her snapping turtle mode and throws her with enough force to knock Megatron into the
** In issue 6 Dinobot [[spoiler: tears off Waspinator's arm and clubs him with it]].
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* ProudWarriorRace: Discussed by Dinobot, the Predacons are largely a warrior caste and are meant to fight war, but there isn't always a war, and that to cope many throw themselves into other fields where there is conflict such as law or peacekeeping.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: [[spoiler: In the TV show Dinobot's betrayal of Megatron is [[TheStarscream motivated by a desire to rule the Predacons]] and he joins the Maximals in hopes of duelling Optimus for control of ''them''. In the comic Dinobot turns on the Predacons to save Nyx's life after the actions of Megatron and Tarantulas completely flew against his moral and honor codes.]]
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* AdaptationalHeroism: [[spoiler: In the TV show Dinobot's betrayal of Megatron is [[TheStarscream motivated by a desire to rule the Predacons]] and he joins the Maximals in hopes of duelling Optimus for control of ''them''. In the comic Dinobot turns on the Predacons to save Nyx's life after the actions of Megatron and Tarantulas completely flew against his moral and honor codes. He also wishes to join the Maximals not out of a petty desire for leadership, but because he feels they are more honorable than Megatron and his crew.]]
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Downplayed but according to [[spoiler: Nyx]] predacons are naturally aggressive, which [[spoiler: Dinobot]] doesn't deny due to them starting out as a warrior caste. Though according to him, during times of peace they channel these impulses into things like athletics, law enforcement or even science due to it challenging old notions.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Downplayed but according to [[spoiler: Nyx]] predacons Nyx]], Predacons are naturally aggressive, which [[spoiler: Dinobot]] doesn't deny due to them starting out as a warrior caste. Though according to him, during times of peace they channel these impulses into things like athletics, law enforcement or even science due to it challenging old notions.notions.
* BadassBoast: Megatron gets one in in Issue 5.
--> '''Megatron:''' "There's only so long your lackeys can hold out before death comes for you... and it will come. After all—no one defies Megatron and lives."
* BadassBoast: Megatron gets one in in Issue 5.
--> '''Megatron:''' "There's only so long your lackeys can hold out before death comes for you... and it will come. After all—no one defies Megatron and lives."
** Dinobot gets in a few good digs in spite of not having Rattrap to bounce off of (yet).
--> '''Nyx:''' "I know there's been 'peace' between Maximals and Predacons for a long time, but that doesn't mean there's no animosity. It's ancient! Encoded deep in the spark! I mean, I went to university with a Predacon who nearly killed me during a lab project..."
--> '''Dinobot:''' "Yes. School is a difficult time."
--> '''Nyx:''' "Don't make fun of me!"
** Megatron still has his macabre wit.
--->'''Megatron''': Well, we know you can find excuses, at least. Pretend [[spoiler:Dinobot]]'s one of those.
--> '''Nyx:''' "I know there's been 'peace' between Maximals and Predacons for a long time, but that doesn't mean there's no animosity. It's ancient! Encoded deep in the spark! I mean, I went to university with a Predacon who nearly killed me during a lab project..."
--> '''Dinobot:''' "Yes. School is a difficult time."
--> '''Nyx:''' "Don't make fun of me!"
** Megatron still has his macabre wit.
--->'''Megatron''': Well, we know you can find excuses, at least. Pretend [[spoiler:Dinobot]]'s one of those.
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** When [[spoiler: Dinobot and Primal are talking in the former's makeshift cell on his request to join the maximals, Dinobot sarcastically asks Optimus if he should have just challenged him to a fight to the death for leadership, which is exactly what he did in the original cartoon]].
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** When [[spoiler: Dinobot and Primal are talking in the former's makeshift cell on his request to join the maximals, Maximals, Dinobot sarcastically asks Optimus if he should have just challenged him to a fight to the death for leadership, which is exactly what he did in the original cartoon]].
