History CallingTheOldManOut / ComicBooks

** This happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] ''unleashes'' on Batman in ''The Road Home'' for all the manipulative crap she's been through because of him. [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]] has made it clear what he thinks of Bruce unilaterally making decisions for him on multiple occasions.
** After returning from the grave in ''ComicBook/BatmanUnderTheHood'', [[Characters/BatmanJasonTodd Jason Todd]] has called him out on his moral selfishness, specifically not killing the Joker to avenge him.

** This happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] ''unleashes'' on Batman in ''The Road Home'' for all the manipulative crap she's been through because of him. [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]] has made it clear what he thinks of Bruce unilaterally making decisions for him on multiple occasions. [[Characters/BatmanJasonTodd Jason Todd]] has called him out on his moral selfishness.

** Whenever Characters/{{Mystique}} shows up in her kids' Rogue and Nightcrawler lives, you can bet that there's a likelihood that they'll rip into her for being a less [[AbusiveParents than stellar]] [[EvilMatriarch mother]] to both of them. However, Kurt's scolding of his mother generally tends to be far less vicious and violent and more [[AllLovingHero merciful]] than Rogue's (despite the fact that Mystique at least bothered to parent Rogue; Kurt she [[OffingTheOffspring tossed off a cliff as a baby]]). DependingOnTheWriter, Mystique's responses to her kids calling her out range from indifference to pleading with them for forgiveness to outright attacking them for their insolence. Nightcrawler in ''Amazing X-Men (2013)'' #6 furiously calls out his mother and his father [[BigRedDevil Azazel]] during a family fight, at which both Mystique and Azazel unite to cruelly tell Kurt [[ShutUpKirk not to take that tone with them]].

** Mags' daughters Characters/ScarletWitch and Polaris have also called him out a few times, and Magneto he usually doesn't respond to them any better than he does with Quicksilver. However, in a few comics Magneto acknowledges and regrets being a poor father, when confronted by his daughters on separate occasions, often using the IDidWhatIHadToDo excuse.

** ''ComicBook/WonderWomanWarbringer'': While Jason is her brother, not her father, he's been raising Alia since their parents' deaths. Once she realizes that he's decided to usher in the apocalypse and kill millions in his quest for personal glory as a war hero she tears into him for an entire paragraph about, among other things, why powers alone do not a hero make how his backhanded manipulative tactics and grabbing every power source available and destroying other's ability to fight before anyone else is even aware there's a fight coming is not heroic by any measure.

** Mags' daughters Characters/ScarletWitch and Polaris have also called him out a few times, and Magneto usually doesn't respond to them better than he does with Quicksilver. However, in a few comics Magneto acknowledges and regrets being a poor father, when confronted by his daughters on separate occasions, often using the IDidWhatIHadToDo excuse.

** Rose Wilson a.k.a. Ravager does this to her father [[Characters/BatmanDeathstroke Deathstroke]] every time they meet. She never really got over the whole "injecting me with PsychoSerum and shoving a piece of radioactive Kryptonite into my eye socket" thing that Deathstroke pulled the last time she trusted him. That, and he's an amoral and ruthless mercenary who inevitably ruins the people close to him. In ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', after circumstances force them to fight side by side again, Rose calls him out one last time. While Rose acknowledges that part of her will always love him because he is her father (and ''only'' for that reason), she never wants to see him again. Rose also swears that if Slade [[spoiler:tries to track down Rose's MissingMom]], she ''will'' kill him.

'''Superman:''' '''Do not''' talk to me about fate. All of you people of magic -- you sorcerers... All your talk about fate and destiny... This is '''wrong'''. No '''boy''' should have the responsibility of the world on his shoulders. It is a fate chosen by '''men'''... He's just a boy.

** This happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] ''unleashes'' on Batman in the Road Home for all the manipulative crap she's been through because of him. [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]] has made it clear what he thinks of Bruce unilaterally making decisions for him on multiple occasions. [[Characters/BatmanJasonTodd Jason Todd]] has called him out on his moral selfishness.

** ''ComicBook/SupermanLoisAndClark'': After [[Characters/SupermanJonathanSamuelKent Jonathan Samuel Kent]] learns about his powers and who his father is, he calls his parents out on not telling him sooner. To their credit, they tell him that they had every intention to when he was an adult. They just didn't expect his powers to manifest so soon (or at all), as Clark's came later in life.
** In [[ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth "Reign of the Cyborg Supermen"]], Zor-El intends to annihilate National City to bring the people of Argo City back. Every time his daughter tries to talk him out of it he claims he's doing it for her sake. Finally, Kara becomes fed up with his attitude and states if he was doing it for her (and not to assuage his guilty conscience), he would listen when she asked him to stop.

'''Superman:''' Do '''not''' talk to me about fate. All of you people of magic -- you sorcerers... All your talk about fate and destiny... This is '''wrong'''. No '''boy''' should have the responsibility of the world on his shoulders. It is a fate chosen by '''men'''... He's just a boy.

* ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheRift'': During the story, Toph encounters her father for the first time since running away from home, at which point he claims [[IHaveNoSon she's confused and that she isn't his daughter]]. Toph hunts him down later and begs him to acknowledge that while she might not be the prim and proper waif he wanted her to be, she's managed to cement herself as a master of her craft and helped the Avatar end the Hundred-Year War. However, he ignores her and she's about to tearfully storm out before the other half of the plot demands otherwise. During a cave-in where he believes they might die, he finally admits that she's still his daughter and that he's never stopped loving her. However, the true reconciliation comes after they get out the situation, as when he falls back into his old overprotective habits, she calls him out again, at which point he apologizes and acknowledges that she is the greatest earthbender of all-time, much to her barely concealed joy.
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
** Happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie Brown]] ''unleashes'' on Batman in the Road Home for all the manipulative crap she's been through because of him. [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] has made it clear what he thinks of Bruce unilaterally making decisions for him on multiple occasions. [[ComicBook/RedHood Jason Todd]] has called him out on his moral selfishness.
** Now that Batman has a ''biological'' son, Damian, it happens with a good deal of regularity with him, too. It helps that Damian's mother, Talia, is the heir of one of Batman's arch-nemeses, so no matter what the kid does, one or the other of his parents is going to give him grief about it.
** In ''[[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]]'', Tim lays things out for his incredibly neglectful biological father when said father says he doesn't even know his son anymore:

* Rose Wilson aka Ravager does this to her father ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} every time they meet. She never really got over the whole "injecting me with PsychoSerum and shoving a piece of radioactive Kryptonite into my eye socket" thing that Deathstroke pulled the last time she trusted him. That, and he's an amoral and ruthless mercenary who inevitably ruins the people close to him. In ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', after circumstances force them to fight side by side again, Rose calls him out one last time. While Rose acknowledges that part of her will always love him because he is her father (and ''only'' for that reason), she never wants to see him again. Rose also swears that if Slade [[spoiler: tries to track down Rose's MissingMom]] she ''will'' kill him.
* ''Franchise/TheFlash'':
** Villain Captain Cold had a violent confrontation with his father after the old man had been abducted by the New Rogues. To teach everybody a lesson, Cold and his team [[spoiler: searched for the impostors, trouncing each with their own weapons]] until Cold found his father in a meat locker. He proceeded to call him out for every indignity he had ever visited upon the family. The old man, clearly not impressed, shot back with his own opinions on how weak Cold and his mother were for not taking it. Cold, furious but unable to kill him, asked fellow Rogue Heat Wave to incinerate him.

* ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'':

** In Issue #377, Bruce is sent into a JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind where he relives various traumas. Eventually, they reach his mother's grave, where he confronted his father. A hallucination of his father as a monster appears and calls him a "perverted monster"....but Bruce cuts loose and calls out the image for years of abuse, stating that HE was the monster and that he buried his emotions for fear of being like him. The monster promptly takes Brian's form and shatters.
** Done in epic fashion during ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' 13# where a undead Brian serves The One Below All and continues to torture his son, before Bruce (thanks to Absorbing Man) gets a HeroicSecondWind and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech puts]] his father in his place.
-->'''Brian''': NO! You’re not my son, you never were!\\
'''Hulk''': Yeah? That your new theory?\\
'''Brian''': You’re the Devil’s child! His son! You’re son of The One Below All!\\
'''Hulk''': Look at you still trying to figure me out—learn the rules find out the secrets. Do you think you ever knew what I was old man? Here’s your special theory dad. The only equation you’ll need! '''[[PreMortemOneLiner HULK IS HULK!]]''' [he blows Brian and The One Below away with a ShockwaveClap].
* ''ComicBook/{{Invincible}}'' calls his father out for lying to him and for [[spoiler:the whole "[[TakeOverTheWorld world domination]]" bit]]. They eventually come to blows and they wreck a few continents in the ensuing, bloody brawl. [[spoiler:It later turns out that said Calling Out ended up in the old man's HeelFaceTurn]].
* In ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' story ''ComicBook/TheGreatDarknessSaga'', Orion's restored clone calls Darkseid out on stealing his deceased son's cells in order to create a mindless slave.

* Done in ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'' #16 where [[spoiler: Story!Loki finally gets Odin's and the Asgardians' approval and respect, placing them at the same level as Thor... and tells them to stick it.]]

** Jesse had a great, happy childhood until he was around six or maybe even younger, when Jesse's father was killed in front of his eyes [[BigScrewedUpFamily by Jesse's uncle Jody]]. Jody raised Jesse brutally for the rest of his childhood, also taking Jesse's mother aside to shoot her and using horrific child abuse. All this is revealed in the third or fourth story arc of the series and by the end of it [[spoiler: Jesse has finally killed Jody and everyone else on that side of the family responsible for his misery]].

* ''ComicBook/TheSandman'': Daniel when he becomes Dream and becomes an adult calls out Lyta for her Roaring Rampage of Revenge, since ultimately the previous Dream dying means that her Daniel was lost forever, and caused countless damage in that realm by unleashing the Kindly Ones. With that said, he does acknowledge she was manipulated into causing such destruction, and offers her eternal protection.
* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'':
** In "American Son", Harry Osborn finally does this to his father ComicBook/NormanOsborn (aka Green Goblin, aka Iron Patriot, aka Worst Father in Comics).
** This trope plays part in the origin of ComicBook/DoctorOctopus. His [[MyBelovedSmother overprotective mother]] forced Otto Octavius to break off his engagement to take care of her, only for Otto to discover her going out on a date. Enraged, he finally stood up to her and called her out, leading to her having a fatal heart attack in shock that her boy did that. The emotional duress Otto had from all of this lead to him not catching the warning signs his experiment was going wrong and exploding.
* In his classic appearances, ComicBook/StarLord doesn't take too kindly to his father abandoning his mother and partially blames him for his uncle sending assassins to kill her, but doesn't outright consider him a villain and allows his allies to stay in his father's care. In more modern books, J'Son has become much more of a jerk, and Quill has far less patience for it.

* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':

** Also in ''ComicBook/NewKrypton'', when Ursa complains that her son Lor-Zod--adopted and renamed Chris Kent by Clark and Lois--is a disappointment to her and his father General Zod, Chris retorts: "Neither of us got the family we wanted."

** In the Superman[=/=]ComicBook/{{Shazam}} crossover ''First Thunder'', upon learning [[OlderAlterEgo Shazam's true identity]] and who it was that gave him that power, Superman heads straight to the Rock of Eternity to chew out the Wizard on his behalf, for foisting this amount of responsibility on the shoulders of a child.
--->'''Superman:''' What is '''wrong''' with you? He's a child! His life shouldn't be about '''this'''! Little boys go to school, play with their friends and go to bed at night. Their biggest concerns should be homework and school-yard crushes--'''not''' if [[spoiler:their best friends are going to be murdered by assassins]]!!\\

'''Superman:''' Do '''not''' talk to me about fate. All of you people of magic--you sorcerers... All your talk about fate and destiny... This is '''wrong'''. No '''boy''' should have the responsibility of the world on his shoulders. It is a fate chosen by '''men'''... He's just a boy.
* In Geoff Jones' ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' #6, an angry ComicBook/WonderWoman causes a LetsYouAndHimFight between the Titans and the ComicBook/JusticeLeague, leading to the younger members attacking their mentors and airing out their frustrations, notably [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} Bart]] chewing out Wally for not trusting him to uphold Franchise/TheFlash legacy and [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim]] attacking Bruce over his usual distrust issues. Once things calm down and ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} enters the scene, it becomes quite clear that the Titans are still suffering a HeroicBSOD from [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Donna Troy]]'s death.

* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'':
** [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1942 Volume 1]]: When Diana learns that Hippolyta had her memories erased and altered in an attempt to manipulate Diana's relationship with ComicBook/SteveTrevor she gives her mother a cold speech about trust and how Hippolyta will never regain hers and then leaves Paradise Island with a promise that her mother's actions mean it will never be home to her again. Diana remains the Amazon champion, but her relationship with her mother is permanently soured by the manipulation.

* ''Franchise/XMen'':
** [[ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} Scott Summers]]' father Christopher aka Corsair was abducted by aliens when he and his brother were fairly young; when Dad showed up many years later, Scott vented his displeasure that a) he hadn't bothered to come back and look for them earlier, despite having plenty of opportunity, and b) he'd become a ruthless [[SpacePirates space pirate]] in the interim. The [[WesternAnimation/XMen animated series]] used a similar storyline, with even more shouting on Scott's part.
** Any time ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} and ComicBook/{{Magneto}} appear in a book together, Quicksilver issues one of these since his dad recruited him into a terrorist supervillain team and all. Magneto actually tends to take it in stride because he knows he was a terrible father (and, frankly, doesn't seem to care that much about Quicksilver's opinion), sometimes offering a token "I was trying to toughen you up" defense.
** Mags’ daughters ComicBook/ScarletWitch and ComicBook/{{Polaris}} have also called him out a few times and Magneto usually doesn’t respond to them better than he does with Quicksilver. Although in a few comics Magneto acknowledges and regrets being a poor father, when confronted by his daughters on seperate occasions, often using the IDidWhatIHadToDo excuse.
** Whenever ComicBook/{{Mystique}} shows up in her kids’ ComicBook/{{Rogue}} and ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}} lives, you bet there’s likelihood they’ll rip into her for being a less [[AbusiveParents than stellar]] [[EvilMatriarch mother]] to both of them. Though Kurt’s scolding of his mother generally tends to be far less vicious and violent and more [[AllLovingHero merciful]] than Rogue’s (despite the fact she tossed him off a cliff as a baby). DependingOnTheWriter Mystique‘s responses to her kids calling her out range from indifference, pleading with them for forgiveness to outright attacking them for their insolence. Nightcrawler in ''Amazing X-Men (2013)'' #6 furiously calls out his mother and his father [[BigRedDevil Azazel]] during a family fight, at which both Mystique and Azazel unite to cruelly tell Kurt [[ShutUpKirk not to take that tone with them]].
** ComicBook/{{Gambit}} delivers one to ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} on ComicBook/{{X 23}}'s behalf in her solo series, telling him off for allowing the reforming and emotionally damaged TykeBomb to participate on ComicBook/XForce, when she really needed someone to help her cope with the things that she'd been made to do, rather than be allowed to do them all over again.
** In ''Astonishing X-Men'', Cyclops "fires" Professor X after he finds out that Xavier knew the whole time that the Danger Room had become sentient and that he continued to use her (and keep the secret to himself).

** Mags’ daughters ComicBook/ScarletWitch and ComicBook/{{Polaris}} have also called him out a few times and Magneto usually doesn’t respond to them better than he did with Quicksilver. Although in a few comics Magneto acknowledges and regrets being a poor father, when confronted by his daughters on seperate occasions, often using the IDidWhatIHadToDo excuse.

** ''ComicBook/SupermanLoisAndClark'': After ComicBook/JonathanSamuelKent learns about his powers and who his father is, he calls his parents out on not telling him sooner. To their credit, they tell him that they had every intention to when he was an adult. They just didn't expect his powers to manifest so soon (or at all), as Clark's came later in life.

** Whenever ComicBook/{{Mystique}} shows up in her kids’ ComicBook/{{Rogue}} and ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}} lives, you bet there’s likelihood they’ll rip into her for being a [[{{Understatement}} less]] [[AbusiveParents than stellar]] [[EvilMatriarch mother]] to both of them. Though Kurt’s scolding of his mother generally tends to be far less vicious and violent and more [[AllLovingHero merciful]] than Rogue’s (despite the fact she tossed him off a cliff as a baby). DependingOnTheWriter Mystique‘s responses to her kids calling her out range from indifference, pleading with them for forgiveness to outright attacking them for their insolence. Nightcrawler in ''Amazing X-Men (2013)'' #6 furiously calls out his mother and his father [[BigRedDevil Azazel]] during a family fight, at which both Mystique and Azazel unite to cruelly tell Kurt [[ShutUpKirk not to take that tone with them]].

* ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheRift'': During the story, Toph encounters her father for the first time since running away from home, at which point he claims [[IHaveNoSon she's confused and that she isn't his daughter]]. Toph hunts him down later and begs him to acknowledge that while she might not be the prim and proper waif he wanted her to be, she's managed to cement herself as a master of her craft and helped the Avatar end the Hundred-Year War. However, he ignores her and she's about to tearfully storm out before the other half of the plot demands otherwise. During a cave-in where he believes they might die, he finally admits that she's still his daughter and that he's never stopped loving her. However, the true reconciliation comes after they get out the situation, as when he almost falls back into his old overprotective habits, she calls him out again, at which point he apologizes and acknowledges that she is the greatest earthbender of all-time, much to her barely concealed joy.