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** All that was on the outside was the lock ''[[spoiler:and Vetinari has the key!]]''
** Not just the cell itself, the rats. Dear god, the rats.
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** All that was that's on the outside was is the lock ''[[spoiler:and Vetinari has the key!]]''
** Not just the cell itself, therats. Dear god, the rats.rats, whom Vetinari gets to serve him by offering advice.
** Not just the cell itself, the
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** At the conclusion, when told to [[spoiler:throw the book at Lupine Wonse, he obliges. As it happened, the aforementioned book weighed several pounds, and caused the head clerk to tumble backwards, and fall several stories to his death]].
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** At the conclusion, when told to [[spoiler:throw the book at Lupine Wonse, he obliges. As it happened, happens, the aforementioned book weighed weighs several pounds, and caused causes the head clerk to tumble backwards, and fall several stories to his death]].
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--->'''Vimes:''' Do you believe all that, sir? About the endless evil and sheer blackness?
--->'''Vetinari:''' Indeed, indeed. It is the only logical conclusion.
--->'''Vimes:''' But you get out of bed every morning, sir?
--->'''Vetinari:''' Hmm? Yes? What is your point?
--->'''Vimes:''' I'd just like to know ''why'', sir.
--->'''Vetinari:''' Indeed, indeed. It is the only logical conclusion.
--->'''Vimes:''' But you get out of bed every morning, sir?
--->'''Vetinari:''' Hmm? Yes? What is your point?
--->'''Vimes:''' I'd just like to know ''why'', sir.
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** All that was on the outside was the lock ''[[spoiler:and Vetinari has the key!]]''
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* Vimes's EstablishingCharacterMoment, explaining refusing to Wonse where his loyalty lies:serve the new regime out of principle:
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'''[[MayAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll All the bolts and bars were on the inside.]]'''
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All that was on the outside was the lock.\\
'''All the bolts and bars were on the inside.'''
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[[MindScrew All that was on the outside was the lock.\\
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'''[[MayAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll All the bolts and bars were on the inside.''']]'''
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'''[[MayAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll All the bolts and bars were on the inside.
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--> Vimes stared at the door until his eyebrows ached. And then, just as random patterns in cloud suddenly, without changing in any way, become a horse's head or a sailing ship, he saw what he'd been looking at all along. A sense of terrifying admiration overcame him. He wondered what it was like in the Patrician's mind. All cold and shiny, he thought, all blued steel and icicles and little wheels clicking along like a huge clock. The kind of mind that would [[XanatosGambit carefully consider its own downfall and turn it to advantage.]]\\
It was a perfectly normal dungeon door, but it all depended on your sense of perspective.\\
In this dungeon the Patrician could hold off the world.\\
All that was on the outside was the lock.\\
'''All the bolts and bars were on the inside.'''
It was a perfectly normal dungeon door, but it all depended on your sense of perspective.\\
In this dungeon the Patrician could hold off the world.\\
All that was on the outside was the lock.\\
'''All the bolts and bars were on the inside.'''
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* Vimes tells [[TheDreaded Vetinari]] to shut up. Twice. And the second time, he shakes his finger at him! (From earlier in the book: "The Patrician was not a man you shook a finger at unless you wanted to end up being able to count only to nine," but Vimes still has all ten.) And he's only terrified later! It doesn't work, in that Vetinari continues smarting off anyway, but Wonse seems to take that as a cue to try to kill him, and then Vimes saves his life, which Vetinari seems distinctly impressed by. ("You saved my life." "Sir?") Basically, you can see exactly when Vetinari started respecting Vimes.
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* Vimes tells [[TheDreaded Vetinari]] to shut up. Twice. And the second time, he shakes his finger at him! (From earlier in the book: "The Patrician was not a man you shook a finger at unless you wanted to end up being able to count only to nine," but Vimes still has all ten.) And he's only terrified later! It doesn't work, in that Vetinari continues smarting off anyway, but Wonse seems to take that as a cue to try to kill him, and then Vimes saves his life, which Vetinari seems distinctly impressed by. ("You saved my life." "Sir?") Basically, you can see exactly when Vetinari started respecting Vimes.Vimes.
-->''Anyway, what was there to be afraid of? He'd stared into the jaws of death three times; four, if you included telling Lord Vetinari to shut up.''
-->''Anyway, what was there to be afraid of? He'd stared into the jaws of death three times; four, if you included telling Lord Vetinari to shut up.''
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** Not to mention that when guards come to take her away to be a VirginSacrifice she attacks them with a broadsword.
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** Not to mention that when guards come to take her away to be a VirginSacrifice she attacks them with a broadsword.broadsword.
* Vimes tells [[TheDreaded Vetinari]] to shut up. Twice. And the second time, he shakes his finger at him! (From earlier in the book: "The Patrician was not a man you shook a finger at unless you wanted to end up being able to count only to nine," but Vimes still has all ten.) And he's only terrified later! It doesn't work, in that Vetinari continues smarting off anyway, but Wonse seems to take that as a cue to try to kill him, and then Vimes saves his life, which Vetinari seems distinctly impressed by. ("You saved my life." "Sir?") Basically, you can see exactly when Vetinari started respecting Vimes.
* Vimes tells [[TheDreaded Vetinari]] to shut up. Twice. And the second time, he shakes his finger at him! (From earlier in the book: "The Patrician was not a man you shook a finger at unless you wanted to end up being able to count only to nine," but Vimes still has all ten.) And he's only terrified later! It doesn't work, in that Vetinari continues smarting off anyway, but Wonse seems to take that as a cue to try to kill him, and then Vimes saves his life, which Vetinari seems distinctly impressed by. ("You saved my life." "Sir?") Basically, you can see exactly when Vetinari started respecting Vimes.
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** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet engine.]]
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** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet rocket engine.]]
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** Not to mention that when guards come to take her away to be a VirginSacrifice she attacks them with a battle axe.
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* Vimes's EstablishingCharacterMoment, explaining to Wonse where his loyalty lies:
--->'''Vimes:''' "You can't give me my job back. It was never yours to take away. I was never an officer of the city, or an officer of the king, or an officer of the Patrician. I was an officer of the law. It might have been corrupted and bent, but it was law, of a sort. There isn't any law now except: 'you'll get burned alive if you don't watch out'. Where's the place in there for me?"
--->'''Vimes:''' "You can't give me my job back. It was never yours to take away. I was never an officer of the city, or an officer of the king, or an officer of the Patrician. I was an officer of the law. It might have been corrupted and bent, but it was law, of a sort. There isn't any law now except: 'you'll get burned alive if you don't watch out'. Where's the place in there for me?"
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*** [[spoiler: Remember the reasons for this, one explicit and one only alluded to. He IS culturally, if not literally, a dwarf himself, and he is... possibly... the actual king of Ankh-Morpork.]]
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* Pratchett is fond of characters paraphrasing the "Do you feel lucky?" speech from ''DirtyHarry''. It gives Vimes one of his earliest awesome moments, in ''Guards! Guards!''.
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* Pratchett is fond of characters paraphrasing the "Do you feel lucky?" speech from ''DirtyHarry''.''Film/DirtyHarry''. It gives Vimes one of his earliest awesome moments, in ''Guards! Guards!''.
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** Also, the totally practical way she handles a wounded Vimes.
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** Also, the totally practical way she handles a wounded Vimes.Vimes.
** Not to mention that when guards come to take her away to be a VirginSacrifice she attacks them with a battle axe.
** Not to mention that when guards come to take her away to be a VirginSacrifice she attacks them with a battle axe.
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*** [[spoiler: Remember the reasons for this, one explicite and one...only alluded to. he IS, culturally if not literally, a dwarf himself...and he is...possibly...the actual king of Ankh-Morpok]]
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*** [[spoiler: Remember the reasons for this, one explicite explicit and one...one only alluded to. he IS, culturally He IS culturally, if not literally, a dwarf himself...himself, and he is...possibly...is... possibly... the actual king of Ankh-Morpok]]Ankh-Morpork.]]
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* Vetinari's luxury dungeon cell blows my mind every time I read it.
** Not just the cell itself, the rats. OMG, the rats.
** Not just the cell itself, the rats. OMG, the rats.
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* Vetinari's luxury dungeon cell blows my the mind every time I read one reads about it.
** Not just the cell itself, the rats.OMG, Dear god, the rats.
** Not just the cell itself, the rats.
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** Arresting it was actually protecting it from the violent mob
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** Arresting it was actually protecting it from the violent mob''For its own protection.''
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* Vetinari's speech to Vimes about the nature of men's souls and the sea of evil. That is all.
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* Vetinari's speech to Vimes about the nature of men's souls and the sea of evil. That evil is all.a character-establishing moment for Vetinari.
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** Vimes' counter to the speech.
** Better yet, ''Colon's and Nobby's'' unwitting counter to the speech, when they innocently ask for nothing more than a tiny raise and a new teapot as a reward for saving the entire city. The moreso, in that they're ''not'' black-and-white thinkers like Vimes, but just a couple of regular, flawed schlubs who couldn't be actual villains if they tried, nonetheless.
** Better yet, ''Colon's and Nobby's'' unwitting counter to the speech, when they innocently ask for nothing more than a tiny raise and a new teapot as a reward for saving the entire city. The moreso, in that they're ''not'' black-and-white thinkers like Vimes, but just a couple of regular, flawed schlubs who couldn't be actual villains if they tried, nonetheless.
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** And Vimes' counter to the speech.
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** Better yet, ''Colon's and Nobby's''unwitting counter to unknown refutation of the speech, whole idea, when they innocently ask for nothing more than a tiny raise and a new teapot as a reward for saving the entire city. The moreso, Moreso, in that they're ''not'' black-and-white thinkers like Vimes, but just a couple of regular, flawed schlubs who couldn't be actual villains if they tried, nonetheless.tried.
** Better yet, ''Colon's and Nobby's''
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** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet engine.]]
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** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet engine.]]]]
* Sybil. You've got to admire a woman who happily works with creatures which have, at this point, burned off all her hair, and could, at any moment, explode. Similarly, her reaction to the giant dragon attacking the city isn't to run scared, but to want to get a good view of it.
** Also, the totally practical way she handles a wounded Vimes.
* Sybil. You've got to admire a woman who happily works with creatures which have, at this point, burned off all her hair, and could, at any moment, explode. Similarly, her reaction to the giant dragon attacking the city isn't to run scared, but to want to get a good view of it.
** Also, the totally practical way she handles a wounded Vimes.
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** Better yet, ''Colon's and Nobby's'' unwitting counter to the speech, when they innocently ask for nothing more than a tiny raise and a new teapot as a reward for saving the entire city. The moreso, in that they're ''not'' black-and-white thinkers like Vimes, but just a couple of regular, flawed schlubs who couldn't be actual villains if they tried, nonetheless.
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***[[spoiler: Remember the reasons for this, one explicite and one...only alluded to. he IS, culturally if not literally, a dwarf himself...and he is...possibly...the actual king of Ankh-Morpok]]
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* The swamp dragon Errol when he finally gets done rearranging his digestive tract. [[spoiler:The dragon kennels exploded. The windows blew out. The door left the wall ahead of a great billow of black smoke and sailed into the air, tumbling slowly, to plow into the rhododendrons... Now Errol’s flame was visible, so hot as to be almost blue. The landscape rolled away underneath him at an impossible speed, and he was accelerating.]]
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* The swamp dragon Errol when he finally gets done rearranging his digestive tract. [[spoiler:The dragon kennels exploded. The windows blew out. The door left the wall ahead of a great billow of black smoke and sailed into the air, tumbling slowly, to plow into the rhododendrons... Now Errol’s flame was visible, so hot as to be almost blue. The landscape rolled away underneath him at an impossible speed, and he was accelerating.]]
** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet engine.]]
** In short, [[spoiler:Errol invents the jet engine.]]
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** Arresting it was actually protecting it from the violent mob
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still had the bottle to try. Not to mention [[GenreSavvy they had a pretty decent grasp]] [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality of how the Discworld works]].
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still had the bottle to try. Not to mention [[GenreSavvy they had a pretty decent grasp]] [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality of how the Discworld works]].works]].
* The swamp dragon Errol when he finally gets done rearranging his digestive tract. [[spoiler:The dragon kennels exploded. The windows blew out. The door left the wall ahead of a great billow of black smoke and sailed into the air, tumbling slowly, to plow into the rhododendrons... Now Errol’s flame was visible, so hot as to be almost blue. The landscape rolled away underneath him at an impossible speed, and he was accelerating.]]
* The swamp dragon Errol when he finally gets done rearranging his digestive tract. [[spoiler:The dragon kennels exploded. The windows blew out. The door left the wall ahead of a great billow of black smoke and sailed into the air, tumbling slowly, to plow into the rhododendrons... Now Errol’s flame was visible, so hot as to be almost blue. The landscape rolled away underneath him at an impossible speed, and he was accelerating.]]
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still had the bottle to try. Not to mention [[GenreSavvy they had a pretty decent grasp]] [[TheTheoryOfNarrativeCausality of how the Discworld works]].
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still had the bottle to try. Not to mention [[GenreSavvy they had a pretty decent grasp]] [[TheTheoryOfNarrativeCausality [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality of how the Discworld works]].
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still tried.
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* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still tried.had the bottle to try. Not to mention [[GenreSavvy they had a pretty decent grasp]] [[TheTheoryOfNarrativeCausality of how the Discworld works]].
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** Vimes' counter to the speech.speech.
* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still tried.
* Carrot, Colon, and Nobby try to shoot the dragon in the vulnerables. Granted, it utterly fails, but given how many close scrapes they've had already, and how obviously reluctant Colon and Nobby are, it's impressive they still tried.
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** At the conclusion, when told to [[spoiler:throw the book at Lupine Wonse, he obliges. As it happened, the aforementioned book weighed several pounds, and caused the head clerk to tumble backwards, and fall several feet to his death]].
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** We get an early evidence of Carrot's charisma when his speech to an entire bar's worth of drunken and fighty dwarves cause them all to realise the error of their ways, weep in shame and decide to write back home to their mums.
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* At the conclusion, when told to [[spoiler:throw the book at Lupine Wonse, he obliges. As it happened, the aforementioned book weighed several pounds, and caused the head clerk to tumble backwards, and fall several feet to his death]].
* Another, earlier one, besides beating an entire bar, including a bunch of trolls, is when he was told to 'charge these men', meaning arrest them. He promptly backs away, and the reader has enough time to remember he takes everything literally... when Carrot runs, screaming, at the men, two axes in each hand, throws the axes, barely missing, and then runs at the armed men bare-handed. This is only the establishing moment of awesome, however.
* Another, earlier one, besides beating an entire bar, including a bunch of trolls, is when he was told to 'charge these men', meaning arrest them. He promptly backs away, and the reader has enough time to remember he takes everything literally... when Carrot runs, screaming, at the men, two axes in each hand, throws the axes, barely missing, and then runs at the armed men bare-handed. This is only the establishing moment of awesome, however.
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