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Bojack Horseman, Clay Puppington and Simon Laurent
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions do justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering does justify the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions do justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering does justify the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. That being sad, exceptions exist with the use of FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse where the character is still provided narrative sympathy despite it not justifying their actions for how their suffering affected them. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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!!Performer side
Actors who are good at portraying torment and suffering frequently end up with their characters becoming a Woobie, because writers and directors will play to their strengths.
Actors who are good at portraying torment and suffering frequently end up with their characters becoming a Woobie, because writers and directors will play to their strengths.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions do justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering does justify the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions do justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering does justify the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions do justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies does justify the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky Woobie, a SugarBowl except for [[GrumpyBear this one guy's bad life]]), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a Woobie. So what is the difference?
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What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky Woobie, a SugarBowl except for [[GrumpyBear [[SourOutsideSadInside this one guy's bad life]]), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a Woobie. So what is the difference?
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, Y]], [[KarmicOverkill but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are.
are. The [[https://i.redd.it/v0tzvef5di111.jpg suffering chart]] meme can be useful here. Generally if a character's "deserve it" is between 40-80 and their suffering is a 60 or higher they qualify, but if a character is a 90 or above they can risk being so [[CompleteMonster terrible]] that their suffering is outweighed by their heinousness.
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Darkness Induced Audience Apathy was renamed.
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Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show [[CrapsackWorld how messed up the world is as a whole]]. Some are intended to be in-universe Woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
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Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show [[CrapsackWorld how messed up the world is as a whole]]. Some are intended to be in-universe Woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
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!Avoiding DarknessInducedAudienceApathy
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn them into TheWoobie, particularly if they have traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn them into TheWoobie, particularly if they have traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
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TooBleakStoppedCaring
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn them into TheWoobie, particularly if they have traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also gettingDarknessInducedAudienceApathy TooBleakStoppedCaring and SympatheticSue accusations?
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn them into TheWoobie, particularly if they have traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your Woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw them a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor, innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy TooBleakStoppedCaring is to give your Woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw them a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor, innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are.
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* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Desserts" Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to them, and they were so unhappy about it that they started doing Y]]."), they probably are.
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* '''External Circumstances''': A character who [[LaserGuidedKarma suffers as a result of their own actions]] is not a Woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as [[YourCheatingHeart cheating]]) or stupid, provided they were warned, (such as [[LeeroyJenkins charging right into a dangerous battle]]), they are not a Woobie.
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* '''External Circumstances''': A character who [[LaserGuidedKarma suffers as a result of their own actions]] is not a Woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as [[YourCheatingHeart cheating]]) cheating) or stupid, provided they were warned, (such as [[LeeroyJenkins charging right into a dangerous battle]]), they are not a Woobie.
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* '''Frequent or Continuous Suffering:''' It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be one of these, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, and they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
* '''External Circumstances:''' A character who [[LaserGuidedKarma suffers as a result of his own actions]] is not a Woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as [[YourCheatingHeart cheating]]) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as [[LeeroyJenkins charging right into a dangerous battle]]), he is not a Woobie.
** '''Important Note:''' Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to Woobie status rather than subtracting from it, but the flaws themselves may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
* '''Powerlessness:''' The best Woobies tend to be characters without any power, such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not usually make the status on their own, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line (think of them like condiments; they don't themselves make a meal, but they can add flavor to one). A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely Woobie than one who isn't.
* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test:''' A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to him is a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y]]."), he probably is.
* '''External Circumstances:''' A character who [[LaserGuidedKarma suffers as a result of his own actions]] is not a Woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as [[YourCheatingHeart cheating]]) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as [[LeeroyJenkins charging right into a dangerous battle]]), he is not a Woobie.
** '''Important Note:''' Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to Woobie status rather than subtracting from it, but the flaws themselves may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
* '''Powerlessness:''' The best Woobies tend to be characters without any power, such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not usually make the status on their own, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line (think of them like condiments; they don't themselves make a meal, but they can add flavor to one). A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely Woobie than one who isn't.
* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts" Test:''' A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to him is a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y]]."), he probably is.
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* '''Frequent or Continuous Suffering:''' Suffering''': It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be one of these, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, and they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
* '''ExternalCircumstances:''' Circumstances''': A character who [[LaserGuidedKarma suffers as a result of his their own actions]] is not a Woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as [[YourCheatingHeart cheating]]) or stupid, provided he was they were warned, (such as [[LeeroyJenkins charging right into a dangerous battle]]), he is they are not a Woobie.
** '''ImportantNote:''' Note''': Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to Woobie status rather than subtracting from it, but the flaws themselves may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
*'''Powerlessness:''' '''Powerlessness''': The best Woobies tend to be characters without any power, such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not usually make the status on their own, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line (think of them like condiments; they don't themselves make a meal, but they can add flavor to one). A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely Woobie than one who isn't.
* For {{Jerkass Woobie}}s: '''The "Just Deserts"Test:''' Test''': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular Woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), the character in question is probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He They may have done Y, but don't you think X happening to him is them are a little harsh]]?") or the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, them, and he was they were so unhappy about it that he they started doing Y]]."), he they probably is.
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne of writing in general, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting that he has done so anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a Woobie regardless even more of a Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a Woobie.
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne of writing in general, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting that he has done so anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a Woobie regardless even more of a Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a Woobie.
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him them into TheWoobie, particularly if he has they have traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point, there's just too much. So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne of writing in general, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting thathe has they have done so anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a Woobie regardless even more of a Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's they're ever had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a Woobie.
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne of writing in general, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting that
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your Woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor, innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your Woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him them a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor, innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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* '''Powerlessness:''' The best Woobies tend to be characters without any power, such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not usually make the status on their own, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line (think of them like condiments; they don't themselves make a meal, but they can add flavor to one). A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely Woobie than one who isn't.
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* '''Powerlessness:''' The best Woobies tend to be characters without any power, such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not usually make the status on their own, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line (think of them like condiments; they don't themselves make a meal, but they can add flavor to one). A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely Woobie than one who isn't.
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The answer lies mostly in whether or not the suffering and/or the toll it takes is tough to undo or even outright unfixable.
Consider the following scenario: Alice has lots of great friends, while Bob [[IJustWantToHaveFriends has never had any]] [[FriendlessBackground despite trying to make them for years]]. Then, one day, Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding, but gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends.
Consider the following scenario: Alice has lots of great friends, while Bob [[IJustWantToHaveFriends has never had any]] [[FriendlessBackground despite trying to make them for years]]. Then, one day, Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding, but gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends.
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The answer lies mostly mainly in whether or not the suffering and/or the toll it takes is tough to undo or even outright unfixable.
Consider the following scenario: Alice [[TrueCompanions has lots of greatfriends, friends]], while Bob [[IJustWantToHaveFriends has never had any]] [[FriendlessBackground despite trying to make them for years]]. Then, one day, Alice [[FeudEpisode loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding, misunderstanding]]. Seeing an opportunity, Bob tries to befriend Alice's friends himself, but gets them back they are put off by his [[NoSocialSkills poor social skills]] and [[LonersAreFreaks long history of having no friends]]. The end result is that while Alice eventually [[BreakUpMakeUpScenario reconciles with her friends at the end of the episode. Meanwhile, episode]], Bob still doesn't get any friends.
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The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment; they feel sorry for her only as long as her situation is negative, and it ends when she returns to the more positive status quo. Conversely, for Bob, it's present tense, meaning ongoing and unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever; his situation was negative from the get-go and remains that way by the end of the story, thus ensuring the audience continues to feel for him.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a [[WarIsHell great war]] and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be Woobies, but what about the one who went through a succession of {{abusive parent}}s and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a [[WarIsHell great war]] and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be Woobies, but what about the one who went through a succession of {{abusive parent}}s and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
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The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment; they feel sorry their sympathy for her lasts only as long as her situation is negative, and it ends when she returns to the more positive status quo. Conversely, for Bob, it's present tense, the tense is present, meaning ongoing and unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever; his situation was negative from the get-go and remains that way by throughout the end of the story, story thanks to both [[NoSocialSkills a character flaw that can't be easily fixed]] and [[LonersAreFreaks a history that can't be changed at all]], thus ensuring the audience continues to feel for him.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a [[WarIsHell great war]] and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be Woobies, but what about the one who went through a succession of {{abusive parent}}s and then nearly died due toostracism? [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer ostracism]]? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a [[WarIsHell great war]] and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be Woobies, but what about the one who went through a succession of {{abusive parent}}s and then nearly died due to
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The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne in writing, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting that he has done so anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a Woobie regardless even more of a Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a Woobie.
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The most important rule is ShowDontTell. It's practically RuleNumberOne of writing in writing, general, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, while [[InformedAttribute insisting that he has done so anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a Woobie regardless even more of a Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a Woobie.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie Woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor poor, innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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'''Trope side'''
''Consistency of Suffering'': It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be frequent or continuous, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
''External Circumstances'': A character who suffers as a result of his own actions is not the woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as cheating) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as charging right into a dangerous battle), he is not a woobie. '''Important Note''': Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to woobie-status rather than subtracting from it, but may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He may have done Y, but don't you think having X happen to him is a little harsh]]?") and the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y]]."), he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
'''AudienceReaction side'''
What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for [[GrumpyBear this one guy's bad life]]), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's present tense, meaning ongoing and unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
!! Uses for a woobie
One potential use for a woobie is making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]], though this is often the [[HateSink intended response]].
Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
Other times, the woobie isn't even intended. This usually comes from {{Designated Monkey}}s, but can also come from not-even-ostensibly-deserving {{Chew Toy}}s the audience [[DudeNotFunny just doesn't find funny]].
''Consistency of Suffering'': It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be frequent or continuous, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
''External Circumstances'': A character who suffers as a result of his own actions is not the woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as cheating) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as charging right into a dangerous battle), he is not a woobie. '''Important Note''': Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to woobie-status rather than subtracting from it, but may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He may have done Y, but don't you think having X happen to him is a little harsh]]?") and the suffering justifies the actions ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y]]."), he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
'''AudienceReaction side'''
What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for [[GrumpyBear this one guy's bad life]]), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's present tense, meaning ongoing and unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
!! Uses for a woobie
One potential use for a woobie is making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]], though this is often the [[HateSink intended response]].
Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
Other times, the woobie isn't even intended. This usually comes from {{Designated Monkey}}s, but can also come from not-even-ostensibly-deserving {{Chew Toy}}s the audience [[DudeNotFunny just doesn't find funny]].
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What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky
Consider the following scenario: Alice has lots of great
Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because...
The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a [[WarIsHell great
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One potential use for a
Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show [[CrapsackWorld how messed up the world is as a
Other times, the
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point point, there's just too much. How to avoid So how do we find that balance of creating a good Woobie without also getting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell.There are It's practically RuleNumberOne in writing, but in the specific case of the Woobie, it accomplishes a few effects of this. things: Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise effects; (unfixable suffering, remember?) otherwise, it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence while [[InformedAttribute insisting that he has done so anyway. anyway]]. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway Woobie regardless even more of a woobie. Woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had had, and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
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The most important rule is ShowDontTell.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.time.
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''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("He may have done Y, but [[EveryoneHasStandards don't you think having X happen to him a little harsh]]?") and the suffering justifies the actions ("X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y."), he probably is.
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''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("Just ("[[DisproportionateRetribution Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y!") Y]]!") or the actions justify the suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("He ("[[EveryoneHasStandards He may have done Y, but [[EveryoneHasStandards don't you think having X happen to him is a little harsh]]?") and the suffering justifies the actions ("X ("[[FreudianExcuse X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y.Y]]."), he probably is.
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think a character-centric version of CrapsackOnlyByComparison), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think a character-centric version CrapsackOnlyByComparison, but with characters instead of CrapsackOnlyByComparison), worlds), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
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Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a weird opposite of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
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Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a [[InvertedTrope weird opposite opposite]] of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA and SympatheticSue accusations?
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA DarknessInducedAudienceApathy and SympatheticSue accusations?
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One issue with {{Sympathetic Sue}}s is that they almost always violate ShowDontTell. At some point, whining about backstory gets old. Show some substance in the moment, and you should get the desired result.
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One issue with {{Sympathetic Sue}}s is that they almost always violate ShowDontTell. At some point, whining about backstory gets old. Show some substance in the moment, and you should get the desired result.result.
Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
Another potentially helpful device to avoid DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is to give your woobie [[EarnYourHappyEnding a happy ending]] and/or [[ThrowTheDogABone throw him a bone or two along the way]]. This way, despite the audience wanting to comfort this poor innocent character, they'll be aware the writer is on the character's side, and as a result see the suffering with pure sympathy rather than frustration. This is especially helpful in serial/episodic works that last a long time.
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One potential use for a woobie is making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
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One potential use for a woobie is making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
way]], though this is often the [[HateSink intended response]].
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think a character-centric version of CrapsackOnlyByComparison), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe (think a character-centric version of CrapsackOnlyByComparison), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
worlds. This can also be apparent in a CrapsackWorld wherein only a limited number of characters are sympathetic.
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One potential use for a woobie include making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
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One potential use for a woobie include is making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another implication is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway, even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another implication is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway, even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
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Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie TheWoobie, particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Anotherimplication piece of advice is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway, anyway even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another
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''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions or the actions justify the suffering, he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering and the suffering justifies the actions, he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in abusive families, underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who always fall victim to bad luck no matter what they do. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in abusive families, underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who always fall victim to bad luck no matter what they do. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
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''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions ("Just because X happened to you doesn't mean you can do Y!") or the actions justify the suffering, suffering ("[[LaserGuidedKarma You deserve to have X happen to you because you did Y]]!"), he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering ("He may have done Y, but [[EveryoneHasStandards don't you think having X happen to him a little harsh]]?") and the suffering justifies the actions, actions ("X happened to him, and he was so unhappy about it that he started doing Y."), he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusivefamilies, families]], underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who [[ButtMonkey always fall victim victim]] [[TheChewToy to bad luck no no]] [[CosmicPlaything matter what they do.do]]. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in [[AbusiveParents abusive
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What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for this one guy's bad life), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy. For Alice, the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy. For Alice, the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
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What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for [[GrumpyBear this one guy's bad life), life]]), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of thesympathy. sympathy, exemplified in the different tenses for "feel". For Alice, the tense is past, meaning the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's present tense, meaning ongoing and unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for theuniverse, universe (think a character-centric version of CrapsackOnlyByComparison), and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the
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One potential use for a woobie include making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack TheWoobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is TheWoobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
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One potential use for a woobie include making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack TheWoobie The Woobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is TheWoobie? The Woobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
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Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.worlds.
!! Uses for a woobie
One potential use for a woobie include making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack TheWoobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is TheWoobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a weird opposite of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
Other times, the woobie isn't even intended. This usually comes from {{Designated Monkey}}s, but can also come from not-even-ostensibly-deserving {{Chew Toy}}s the audience [[DudeNotFunny just doesn't find funny]].
!! Avoiding DarknessInducedAudienceApathy
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another implication is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway, even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
One issue with {{Sympathetic Sue}}s is that they almost always violate ShowDontTell. At some point, whining about backstory gets old. Show some substance in the moment, and you should get the desired result.
!! Uses for a woobie
One potential use for a woobie include making other characters look evil. Villains who attack the hero are just trying to win their fight. Villains who attack TheWoobie are cowards at best, bullying monsters at worst. Oh, and if the character is the primary reason another is TheWoobie? They'll most likely be [[TheScrappy hated]], [[LoveToHate perhaps in a good way]].
Another is to provide a tragic contrast; kind of a weird opposite of comic relief. And of course, sometimes they're used just to show how messed up the world is as a whole. Some are intended to be in-universe woobies, particularly {{Littlest Cancer Patient}}s like [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Tiny Tim]] (who, in a surprisingly effective way, had a ''curable'' illness), in order to tug at the heartstrings of other characters as well as the audience. Unfortunately, sometimes, this will lead to the character becoming a SympatheticSue, or just to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
Other times, the woobie isn't even intended. This usually comes from {{Designated Monkey}}s, but can also come from not-even-ostensibly-deserving {{Chew Toy}}s the audience [[DudeNotFunny just doesn't find funny]].
!! Avoiding DarknessInducedAudienceApathy
Generally speaking, piling loads of crap onto the character will turn him into TheWoobie particularly if he has traits such as kindness, a large number of sympathetic flaws, and powerlessness. But at some point there's just too much. How to avoid DIAA and SympatheticSue accusations?
The most important rule is ShowDontTell. There are a few effects of this. Since we see bad things happen, we understand they're plausible for the universe. Another thing that's helpful is seeing how much it hurts. Another implication is to use tragic backstory sparingly. Tragic backstory is great for making a character TheWoobie quickly, but it has to have some lasting effects, otherwise it comes across as the author's refusal to put the character through hell, and insistence that he has done so anyway. Sometimes tragic backstory can be used to make a character who would have been a woobie anyway, even more of a woobie. For instance, if your character is saying that today is the best day he's ever had and even ''that'' day is punctuated by obviously pitiful moments, that character will almost certainly become a woobie.
One issue with {{Sympathetic Sue}}s is that they almost always violate ShowDontTell. At some point, whining about backstory gets old. Show some substance in the moment, and you should get the desired result.
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!! What makes TheWoobie work
There are a variety of factors that lead to a character we consider TheWoobie.
'''Trope side'''
''Consistency of Suffering'': It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be frequent or continuous, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
''External Circumstances'': A character who suffers as a result of his own actions is not the woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as cheating) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as charging right into a dangerous battle), he is not a woobie. '''Important Note''': Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to woobie-status rather than subtracting from it, but may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions or the actions justify the suffering, he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering and the suffering justifies the actions, he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in abusive families, underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who always fall victim to bad luck no matter what they do. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
'''AudienceReaction side'''
What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for this one guy's bad life), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy. For Alice, the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.
There are a variety of factors that lead to a character we consider TheWoobie.
'''Trope side'''
''Consistency of Suffering'': It's clear that the suffering the character goes through should be frequent or continuous, the former more commonly for serial and the latter more commonly for standalone works. Characters who are one-shot or infrequent recurring characters in serial works would more likely follow the "continuous" rule. Basically, frequency is when you add up all the events or even all the ''major'' bad events, they add up to something huge, while continuity is where the suffering is the status quo. It is certainly possible to have both at once. Of course, this alone is not very different from a regular ButtMonkey.
''External Circumstances'': A character who suffers as a result of his own actions is not the woobie. So, for example, if a character has to live with the consequences of doing something bad (such as cheating) or stupid, provided he was warned, (such as charging right into a dangerous battle), he is not a woobie. '''Important Note''': Being too afraid, weak, or self-defeating to prevent someone from hurting you is ''different'' from causing your own problems. Not only are all of these flaws sympathetic enough that they ''add'' to woobie-status rather than subtracting from it, but may have been caused by the same or other attackers in the first place indirectly, especially if they are highly influential like AbusiveParents.
''The "Just Deserts" Test'': A character who is actively cruel to others cannot be a regular woobie by default. What differentiates a JerkassWoobie from a regular {{Jerkass}} is how well their suffering justifies their actions or vice versa. This is often a matter of opinion, especially when the DesignatedMonkey reaction is involved. If the suffering does not justify the actions or the actions justify the suffering, he's probably not a JerkassWoobie. On the other hand, if the actions do not justify the suffering and the suffering justifies the actions, he probably is.
''Power and Other Factors'': The best woobies tend to be characters without any power such as [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer someone discriminated against by everyone else]], children in abusive families, underlings always on the edge of losing their job, or characters who always fall victim to bad luck no matter what they do. Too much power (such as being a strong matriarch, or able to outwit authority figures) diminishes the sympathy since the audience is sure they can take care of themselves. Sympathetic flaws like weakness (physical or emotional), self-defeating behavior, and proneness to emotions such as sadness and anxiety over ones like excitement and anger will not make the status on their own usually, but can be hugely beneficial in pushing a questionable character over the line. A character who is extremely virtuous--kind, honest, loyal, etc.--who also suffers heavily is also a more likely woobie than one who isn't.
'''AudienceReaction side'''
What seems a little tricky about this is the idea that the fandom feels sorry for the character. Now, unless the show is a SugarBowl (or, for a particularly unlucky woobie, a SugarBowl except for this one guy's bad life), and sometimes even then, the audience will feel sorry for most if not all of the characters at one point or another. People have specified feeling sorry for the resident {{Jerkass}} in the episode they were watching ''only''. Clearly, this alone is not enough to make the character a woobie. So what is the difference?
Take for instance, Alice and Bob. Alice has lots of great friends and Bob has never had any despite trying to make them for years. Then one day Alice loses all her friends due to a misunderstanding and gets them back by the end of the episode. Meanwhile, Bob still doesn't get any friends. Now, when the audience is watching Alice, they would likely say something to the effect of "I felt bad for Alice when..." When the topic turns to Bob, the audience members would likely say something closer to "I feel sorry for Bob because..." The main difference between these two is the ''conditionality'' of the sympathy. For Alice, the sympathy is conditional--it's fleeting, temporal, in the moment. For Bob, it's unconditional--consistent, steadfast, forever.
Another important factor is whether it's personalized. Suppose your show takes place during a great war and plenty of hardships are had by everyone. They can't ''all'' be the woobie, but what about the one who went through a succession of abusive parents and then nearly died due to ostracism? This is heavy suffering even for the universe, and so the character stands out even in one of the bleaker worlds.