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* Fans who do include ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'' in their preferred canon often trim it down to the three-part crossover with ''The Mandalorian''. The first two parts comprise the ''Book'''s most-acclaimed chapters (despite Boba's lengthy absences), while disregarding previous chapters also erases Boba's most jarring signs of undergoing BadassDecay after ''The Mandalorian'' Season 2. Arguably, the crossover's reunion between Din Djarin and Grogu also provides a more satisfying conclusion to their story than their separation would.
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* Fans who do include ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'' in their preferred canon often trim it down to the three-part crossover with ''The Mandalorian''. The first two parts comprise the ''Book'''s most-acclaimed chapters (despite Boba's lengthy absences), while disregarding previous chapters also erases Boba's most jarring signs of undergoing BadassDecay after ''The Mandalorian'' Season 2. Arguably, the crossover's reunion between Din Djarin and Grogu also provides a more satisfying conclusion to their story than their separation would.
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* The most extreme fans accept only a ''single'' film as canon: the original 1977 ''Film/ANewHope'' (not that they'll call it that). They don't like ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', usually because of its DarkerAndEdgier tone. The most common complaints are that ''Empire'' doesn't fit tonally with the first movie, that the Empire's counterattack is a kind of HappyEndingOverride of the victory against the Death Star, and that Darth Vader [[LukeIAmYourFather being Luke's father]] is a {{Retcon}} which retroactively turns Obi-Wan into a liar and Luke's heroic father into a traitorous villain.

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* The most extreme fans accept only a ''single'' film as canon: the original 1977 ''Film/ANewHope'' (not that they'll call it that).that; its original title was just ''Star Wars'', and only got changed ''because'' more films were made). They don't like ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', usually because of its DarkerAndEdgier tone. The most common complaints are that ''Empire'' doesn't fit tonally with the first movie, that the Empire's counterattack is a kind of HappyEndingOverride of the victory against the Death Star, and that Darth Vader [[LukeIAmYourFather being Luke's father]] is a {{Retcon}} which retroactively turns Obi-Wan into a liar and Luke's heroic father into a traitorous villain.
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* The most extreme fans accept only a ''single'' film as canon: the original 1977 ''Film/ANewHope'' (not that they'll call it that). They don't like ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', usually because of its DarkerAndEdgier tone. The most common complaints are that ''Empire'' doesn't fit tonally with the first movie, that the Empire's counterattack is a kind of HappyEndingOverride of the victory against the Death Star, and that Darth Vader [[LukeIAmYourFather being Luke's father]] is a {{Retcon}} which retroactively turns Obi-Wan into a liar and Luke's heroic father Anakin into a traitorous villain.

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* The most extreme fans accept only a ''single'' film as canon: the original 1977 ''Film/ANewHope'' (not that they'll call it that). They don't like ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', usually because of its DarkerAndEdgier tone. The most common complaints are that ''Empire'' doesn't fit tonally with the first movie, that the Empire's counterattack is a kind of HappyEndingOverride of the victory against the Death Star, and that Darth Vader [[LukeIAmYourFather being Luke's father]] is a {{Retcon}} which retroactively turns Obi-Wan into a liar and Luke's heroic father Anakin into a traitorous villain.
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** The ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly DarkerAndEdgier. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy and the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, each considered FanonDiscontinuity for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as [[spoiler:Mara Jade and Anakin Solo's deaths]]. ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' initially looked to [[FixFic regain some of the lost fans,]] but then served only to further diminish their numbers.

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** The ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly DarkerAndEdgier. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy BloodierAndGorier ''Literature/DarkNestTrilogy'' and the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, each considered FanonDiscontinuity for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as [[spoiler:Mara Jade and Anakin Solo's deaths]]. ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' initially looked to [[FixFic regain some of the lost fans,]] but then served only to further diminish their numbers.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3, which continues from the RequiredSpinoffCrossover. These fans argue that even if ''Mandalorian'' Season 2 doesn't have a totally happy ending, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3, which continues from the RequiredSpinoffCrossover. These fans argue that even if ''Mandalorian'' Season 2 doesn't have a totally happy ending, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads.threads, and aren't as enjoyable to viewers who don't know the complete canon timeline of the cartoons (including the unaired episodes). Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.

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* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the latter three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.
* Even before the ContinuityReboot, fans accepted certain bits of ''Legends'' continuity more than others. Before ''Literature/NewJediOrder'', individual opinions over what was considered FanonDiscontinuity or not were vastly varied between individual fans, ranging in extremes from only discounting obvious pieces (such as the ''Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy'' and ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' which were full of {{Continuity Snarl}}s) to ignoring absolutely everything set after the Thrawn Trilogy.

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* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the latter three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'', or ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.
* Even before the ContinuityReboot, fans accepted certain bits of ''Legends'' continuity more than others. Before ''Literature/NewJediOrder'', individual opinions over what was considered FanonDiscontinuity or not were vastly varied between individual fans, ranging in extremes from only discounting obvious pieces (such as the ''Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy'' and ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' which were full of {{Continuity Snarl}}s) to ignoring absolutely everything set after the Thrawn Trilogy. Even afterward, some fans wanted the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series to be the end of the ''Legends'' franchise and disregard almost everything afterward, while the people that dislike ''New Jedi Order'' want either the ''Literature/HandOfThrawn'' duology or ''Literature/YoungJediKnights'' to be the end.
** It all began with ''Literature/SplinterOfTheMindsEye'', the first Legends novel ever written. The book was meant to be the plot for a low-budget sequel to Episode IV [[WhatCouldHaveBeen in the event that it wasn't the commercial success it ended up being]], but remained canon within the Legends continuity with elements from it appearing elsewhere in the timeline. Many fans disagreed with this choice due to Luke's faceoff against Vader within the novel diminishing the gravity of their climactic showdown in ''Empire Strikes Back'', as well as the unwanted additional ShipTease with him and Leia.



** The ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly DarkerAndEdgier. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy and the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, each considered FanonDiscontinuity for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as [[spoiler:Mara Jade's death]]. ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' initially looked to [[FixFic regain some of the lost fans,]] but then served only to further diminish their numbers.
** ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' tie-in novel ''Literature/{{Revan}}'' is hated by fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' -- alongside putting Revan and TheExile through TheWorfEffect, the KOTOR squadmates are incredibly shafted, outside of Canderous, T3 and Bastila. Even more so for the KOTOR 2 squadmates, where outside of Kreia (only a short reference as "Darth Traya") ''[[DemotedToExtra none of them are even mentioned by their names]]''. Add this in with Exile not recognizing Force-consuming abilities (despite having fought one in the form of Nihilus), her connection to the Force magically re-appearing, the Sith Emperor being an InvincibleVillain and all of Kreia's teachings about the Force and the Jedi being dismissed as Dark Side corruption. And on top of that, quite a few people hate the name Meetra Surik.
** Some fans of [[spoiler:Anakin Solo]] disregard his death in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series.

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** The ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly DarkerAndEdgier. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy and the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, each considered FanonDiscontinuity for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as [[spoiler:Mara Jade's death]].Jade and Anakin Solo's deaths]]. ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' initially looked to [[FixFic regain some of the lost fans,]] but then served only to further diminish their numbers.
** ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' tie-in novel ''Literature/{{Revan}}'' is hated by fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' -- alongside putting Revan and TheExile through TheWorfEffect, the KOTOR squadmates are incredibly shafted, outside of Canderous, T3 and Bastila. Even more so for the KOTOR 2 squadmates, where outside of Kreia (only a short reference as "Darth Traya") ''[[DemotedToExtra none of them are even mentioned by their names]]''. Add this in with Exile not recognizing Force-consuming abilities (despite having fought one in the form of Nihilus), ForgotAboutHisPowers, her connection to the Force magically re-appearing, the Sith Emperor being an InvincibleVillain InvincibleVillain, and all of Kreia's teachings about the Force and the Jedi being dismissed as Dark Side corruption. And on top of that, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking quite a few people hate the name Meetra Surik.
** Some fans of [[spoiler:Anakin Solo]] disregard his death in
Surik]]. Adding even more fuel to the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series.fire, the novel is implied to be [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead one of the few things that survived the reboot]] as ''Franchise/StarWarsTheHighRepublic'' refers to Surik by name.



** Some fans of ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'' accept the Disney canon except things that contradict the comics, like ''Literature/DarkDisciple''.



** Some fans want the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series to be the end of the ''Legends'' franchise and disregard almost everything afterward, while the people that dislike ''New Jedi Order'' want either the ''Literature/HandOfThrawn'' duology or ''Literature/YoungJediKnights'' to be the end.

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There was always a BrokenBase over the canonicity of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', which heated up after Creator/{{Disney}} bought the franchise and made the original ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' CanonDiscontinuity, meaning one cannot accept both the sequels and the original EU as canon. Some fans continue to prefer ''Legends'' over the sequels, and factions within ''that'' often only accept ''certain'' material like ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy''. Others will reject the post-Disney canon on principle. There's even a certain subset of fans who, seeing that both universes accept the original six films and ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' as canon, treat them as the only works to be definitively canon, regardless of the quality of anything beyond that.
* Some fans accept ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' as canon, but not the prequel films, while others consider the entire EU canon ''except'' ''The Clone Wars'' because it was the only original EU media source to ''not'' become CanonDiscontinuity under Disney. The series contradicts the pre-existing and similarly named ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'', which it was meant to supersede. Some fans like to mix them for reasons like preferring the older portrayal of General Grievous's fearsome Jedi-killer reputation and Mace Windu crushing his lungs to cause his less than intimidating appearance, plus its buildup to Anakin and Obi-Wan in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' and Anakin's use of his skeletal golden arm for FanWank, while preferring the new series' Ahsoka Tano and character interaction.

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There was always a BrokenBase over the canonicity of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', which heated up after Creator/{{Disney}} bought the franchise and made the original ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' CanonDiscontinuity, an AlternateContinuity, meaning one cannot accept both the sequels anything made after 2014 and the original EU as the same canon. Some fans continue to prefer ''Legends'' over the sequels, and factions within ''that'' often only accept ''certain'' material like ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy''. Others will reject the post-Disney canon on principle. There's even a certain subset of fans who, seeing that both universes accept the original six films and ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' as canon, treat them as the only works to be definitively canon, regardless of the quality of anything beyond that.
* Some fans accept ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' as canon, but not the prequel films, while others consider the entire EU canon ''except'' ''The Clone Wars'' because it was the only original EU media source to ''not'' become CanonDiscontinuity under Disney. The series contradicts the pre-existing and similarly named ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'', which it was meant to supersede. Some fans like to mix them for reasons like preferring the older portrayal of General Grievous's fearsome Jedi-killer reputation and Mace Windu crushing his lungs to cause his less than intimidating appearance, plus its buildup to Anakin and Obi-Wan in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' and Anakin's use of his skeletal golden arm for FanWank, while preferring the new series' Ahsoka Tano and character interaction. Alternatively, some Legends fans ignore the 2008 Clone Wars series for a few reasons, including the series having many contradictions with previous Legends canon, not feeling the series fits well enough in its place in the timeline, feeling Anakin wouldn’t be considered mentor material due to his emotional control issues, or disliking Order 66 being boiled down to MindControl. Also there’s a preference with these fans for the 2003 micro series rather than the 2008 one.



* Fans accept certain bits of ''Legends'' continuity more than others:

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* Fans accept Even before the ContinuityReboot, fans accepted certain bits of ''Legends'' continuity more than others:others. Before ''Literature/NewJediOrder'', individual opinions over what was considered FanonDiscontinuity or not were vastly varied between individual fans, ranging in extremes from only discounting obvious pieces (such as the ''Literature/JediAcademyTrilogy'' and ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' which were full of {{Continuity Snarl}}s) to ignoring absolutely everything set after the Thrawn Trilogy.
** The novel ''Literature/TheCrystalStar'' is generally considered the worst ''Star Wars'' book written, thanks to its slow plot, out-of-character actions, and general weird crap, [[CanonDiscontinuity and the writers seem to agree]].
** The ''Jedi Prince'' young adult novels (also known as ''Literature/TheGloveOfDarthVader'' after the first book) as refused as ever occurring by fans, helped by only two points from the entire series ever being brought up again, ever: the concept of [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Human Replica Droids]] and Duro being a wasteland, polluted to the point of being uninhabitable by industrial waste, neither of which requires the stories' specific events to work. Ironically, Disney's reboot [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker would ultimately bring up]], [[HilariousInHindsight whether it were intentional or not]], the idea of [[spoiler: Emperor Palpatine having a grandchild who ends up on the side of good instead]].
** The ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' comics series, which brought Palpatine back, is often disregarded in favor of the roughly concurrent ''[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn Trilogy]]'' of novels and the rest of ''Legends'' that followed its lead. Or else the comics are imagined to be in its own continuity as a sequel to ''Return of the Jedi''. This is encouraged by the inevitable thematic ContinuitySnarl between the comics and the prequel movies made later, which retroactively established the whole prophecy that Vader would "bring balance to the Force" and that he fulfilled it by killing Palpatine in ''Return of the Jedi''. Thus, some fans disregard ''The Rise of Skywalker'', and by extension the entire sequel trilogy (for having darksiders in general), for the same reason.
** The ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly DarkerAndEdgier. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy and the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, each considered FanonDiscontinuity for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as [[spoiler:Mara Jade's death]]. ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' initially looked to [[FixFic regain some of the lost fans,]] but then served only to further diminish their numbers.
** ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' tie-in novel ''Literature/{{Revan}}'' is hated by fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' -- alongside putting Revan and TheExile through TheWorfEffect, the KOTOR squadmates are incredibly shafted, outside of Canderous, T3 and Bastila. Even more so for the KOTOR 2 squadmates, where outside of Kreia (only a short reference as "Darth Traya") ''[[DemotedToExtra none of them are even mentioned by their names]]''. Add this in with Exile not recognizing Force-consuming abilities (despite having fought one in the form of Nihilus), her connection to the Force magically re-appearing, the Sith Emperor being an InvincibleVillain and all of Kreia's teachings about the Force and the Jedi being dismissed as Dark Side corruption. And on top of that, quite a few people hate the name Meetra Surik.



** [[spoiler:Aayla Secura]]'s death in Order 66 is annoying for fans of ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'', as they don't like how it DroppedABridgeOnHer.



** ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'' fans of A’Sharad Hett and his compelling story arc might want to disregard the (many) issues of ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy that explicitly establish his FaceHeelTurn into a stunningly evil Sith lord.
* Fans of the ''ComicBook/DarkTimes'' comic series have two notable points of contention with the storyline that they sometimes try to disregard: the DroppedABridgeOnHim death of [[spoiler:Crys Taanzer]] halfway through the comic, and fan favorite OneManArmy Order 66 survivor Beyghor Sachet [[spoiler:turning out to have killed another Jedi and pledged allegiance to Palpatine, leading to his death and that of two other supporting characters in the final arc]].
* ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' was near-universal FanonDiscontinuity; Creator/GeorgeLucas himself disowned it and allegedly said he would destroy every copy of it he could find himself. However, it was always ''officially'' BroadStrokes canon and only became CanonDiscontinuity when Disney jettisoned the entire EU.
* The ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' comics series, which brought Palpatine back, is often disregarded in favor of the roughly concurrent ''[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn Trilogy]]'' of novels and the rest of the Expanded Universe (now ''Legends'') that followed its lead. Or else the comics are imagined to be in its own continuity as a sequel to ''Return of the Jedi''. This is encouraged by the inevitable thematic ContinuitySnarl between the comics and the prequel movies made later, which retroactively established the whole prophecy that Vader would "bring balance to the Force" and that he fulfilled it by killing Palpatine in ''Return of the Jedi''. Thus, some fans disregard ''The Rise of Skywalker'', and by extension the entire sequel trilogy (for having darksiders in general), for the same reason.

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** ''ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic'' fans of A’Sharad Hett and his compelling story arc might want to disregard the (many) issues of ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy that explicitly establish his FaceHeelTurn into a stunningly evil Sith lord.
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Fans of the ''ComicBook/DarkTimes'' comic series have two notable points of contention with the storyline that they sometimes try to disregard: the DroppedABridgeOnHim death of [[spoiler:Crys Taanzer]] halfway through the comic, and fan favorite OneManArmy Order 66 survivor Beyghor Sachet [[spoiler:turning out to have killed another Jedi and pledged allegiance to Palpatine, leading to his death and that of two other supporting characters in the final arc]].
* ** ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' was near-universal FanonDiscontinuity; Creator/GeorgeLucas himself disowned it and allegedly said he would destroy every copy of it he could find himself. However, it was always ''officially'' BroadStrokes canon and only became CanonDiscontinuity when Disney jettisoned the entire EU.
* The ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' comics series, which brought Palpatine back, is often disregarded in favor of the roughly concurrent ''[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn Trilogy]]'' of novels and the rest of the Expanded Universe (now ''Legends'') that followed its lead. Or else the comics are imagined to be in its own continuity as a sequel to ''Return of the Jedi''. This is encouraged by the inevitable thematic ContinuitySnarl between the comics and the prequel movies made later, which retroactively established the whole prophecy that Vader would "bring balance to the Force" and that he fulfilled it by killing Palpatine in ''Return of the Jedi''. Thus, some fans disregard ''The Rise of Skywalker'', and by extension the entire sequel trilogy (for having darksiders in general), for the same reason.
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* Some fans disregard the prequel trilogy, even if they're fine with other movies like the sequel trilogy. The objections are many and have been rehashed on the Internet for decades now, but they boil down to complaining that ''(a)'' the characters who were referenced in the original trilogy are given arcs that contradict what the original trilogy establishes; ''(b)'' the ''new'' characters were largely forgettable or unlikeable; ''(c)'' the introduction of midichlorians amounts to DoingInTheWizard; and ''(d)'' the idea that Jedi are banned from having relationships made it more difficult to make plausible SlashFic, even though Creator/GeorgeLucas clarified that it didn't mean they CantHaveSexEver.

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* Some fans disregard the prequel trilogy, even if they're fine with other movies like the sequel trilogy. The objections are many and have been rehashed on the Internet for decades now, but they boil down to complaining that ''(a)'' the characters who were referenced in the original trilogy are given arcs that contradict what the original trilogy establishes; ''(b)'' the ''new'' characters were largely forgettable or unlikeable; ''(c)'' the introduction of midichlorians amounts to DoingInTheWizard; and ''(d)'' the idea that Jedi are banned from having relationships made it more difficult to make plausible SlashFic, even though Creator/GeorgeLucas clarified that it didn't mean they CantHaveSexEver.SlashFic.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3, which continues from the spin-off. These fans argue that even if ''Mandalorian'' Season 2 doesn't have a totally happy ending, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3, which continues from the spin-off.RequiredSpinoffCrossover. These fans argue that even if ''Mandalorian'' Season 2 doesn't have a totally happy ending, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3. They 3, which continues from the spin-off. These fans argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, Season 2 doesn't have a totally happy ending, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] spin-off]], a generally common choice for Creator/DisneyPlus's worst ''Star Wars''-based show, and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' sets would stop at Season 2.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department hasn't helped by only including the first two seasons in the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' releases, despite announcing it months after Season 3 finished.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department hasn't helped by only including the first two seasons in didn't help when they announced, four months after Season 3 finished, that the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' releases, despite announcing it months after sets would stop at Season 3 finished.2.
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I should wait and see if the fanbase will ever get over their disappointments with the season/series finale


* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'', and ''Series/{{Ahsoka}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the middle three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.

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* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'', and ''Series/{{Ahsoka}}'' ''Series/{{Andor}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the middle latter three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.
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* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the latter three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.

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* Some fans mix ''certain'' Disney-era works with ''Legends'', which is most common with ''Series/TheMandalorian'', ''Film/RogueOne'', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', and ''Series/{{Andor}}'' ''Series/{{Andor}}'', and ''Series/{{Ahsoka}}'' as they occur before the sequels (and even the originals for the latter middle three) and thus fit more easily into the BroadStrokes. Fans of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' may accept Disney canon over EU canon except when it involves the games, as do some fans of ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'', who favor it over ''Film/RogueOne'' concerning how the rebels stole the Death Star plans. Indeed, it was almost encouraged in some circles to mix ''Legends'' into the Disney-era works; Disney even started making a habit of cherry-picking bits of ''Legends'' continuity they liked (such as force-healing), only to end up confusing people who weren't familiar with ''Legends'' to begin with. The trend nowadays is to specify, in ''Legends''' case, that it remains canon after the Disney acquisition unless and until Disney writes something to contradict it. This is so hard to keep track of that the ''Star Wars'' wiki created the [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database Holocron continuity database]], a list of works categorized by canonicity based on multiple factors -- which Disney will happily ignore and throw into disarray every so often.
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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that subsequent ''Mandalorian'' spin-offs and seasons reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department hasn't helped by only including the first two seasons in the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' releases, despite announcing it months after Season 3 finished.

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* ''Series/TheMandalorian'' has some fans who want to reject [[Series/TheBookOfBobaFett the first spin-off]] and Season 3. They argue that even if Season 2 doesn't have the happiest ending of any ''Mandalorian'' season, it still feels like appropriate and resonant closure for the clan's story; when Din Djarin reveals his true face to Grogu, then the two permit Luke Skywalker to resume Grogu's training. They also argue that subsequent ''Mandalorian'' spin-offs and seasons the aforementioned continuations reverse too much of Din's character development (such as when he accepts a trial of atonement from the Armorer for revealing his face, and doesn't let Grogu see it again afterwards), and delivered disappointing payoffs to earlier plot threads. Disney's Blu-ray department hasn't helped by only including the first two seasons in the inaugural wave of ''Mandalorian'' releases, despite announcing it months after Season 3 finished.

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