History FanonDiscontinuity / AnimeAndManga

* Some ''Anime/PrettyCure'' fans refuse to admit ''Anime/YesPrettyCure5'' ever had a second season. Even worse, some of those fans refuse to admit ''Anime/PowerOfHopePrecureFullBloom'' happened.

** Some even like to act like the Time-Skip in general never happened because of the change in Eren's character and the direction the story took.

* A decent amount of ''Manga/SchoolLive'' fans think that the manga should have ended with [[spoiler:the girls leaving the high school forever]] in Chapter 30 instead of moving onto the University arc, which has [[BrokenBase a very mixed reception amongst fans]]. It helps that the anime actually does end at that point. The ending mentioning that [[spoiler: the girls went their separate ways is also frequently ignored to going against all previous characterisation and development.

*** In general, a great number of fans (or haters) of any characters tend to reject pieces of {{canon}} that show the characters in a negative (or positive) light.

* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' practically invites you to do this. Some people think the last two episodes of the series and ''[[TheMovie End of Evangelion]]'' cover the same events from different points of view; some think they're different, accept ''End of Evangelion'' as the ending, and disregard the TV series' ending; some only accept the ending of the TV series and disregard the movie; and some reject both endings. With the four-part movie ''[[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild]]'' supposedly getting a new ending of its own, there will be a third possible ending to further divide the fanbase.
** The issue is only further complicated by the fact that many fans cannot agree on what the hell happened in ''either'' of those endings.
** It's also complicated by the fact that ''Rebuild'' doesn't just have a new ending...it also has a new middle. [[AlternateContinuity And a new late beginning]].

*** A lot of fans choose to ignore or downplay the conversation with Beerus about how Goku absorbed the energy of a Super Saiyan God to make his base form nearly just as strong as it, due to the fact that it makes the already wonky power scaling of the series even worse and raises questions of how anyone could even hope to match his Super Saiyan or Kaioken multipliers if that was the case, especially characters like Frieza and Android 17 who seemed to do it with relative ease. To the anime's credit, unlike the Movie it does at least keep Goku in his Super Saiyan form for this conversation instead of his base form. While the same questions as to why his power multipliers don't seem to close the power gaps they should still remain, it at least helps create the illusion that the natural power increase Goku got wasn't THAT extreme.

* Some ''Anime/PrettyCure'' fans refuse to admit ''Anime/YesPrettyCure5'' ever had a second season.

*** There is also the contested interpretation that [[spoiler:Lelouch technically does kill a Code Bearer while his Geass is at full power. From what little we know, it could be seen as a transfer. Though, this is heavily contested since Lelouch explicitly says "this is a request" and not a command, and he doesn't even request from "God" to kill his parents, but to not halt the march of time. It was "God" who granted that wish by erasing Charles and Marianne from existence. While it may be argued that Lelouch bears some moral responsibility, he most certainly does not bear causal responsibility and thus "in the eyes of geass" is not the one who killed his parents. Lelouch's "Be Gone!" was also long after Charles had already started dissolving, so that too plays no causal role. It must be pointed out as well, that this entire discussion is moot since taking someone's code doesn't kill the former code bearer, nor is killing the former code bearer a requisite to successfully transfer the code. When C.C. received the code, she didn't kill the nun, the nun was still alive and committed suicide. And a much clearer example is V.V. still being alive when Charles receives his code and even living quite a while after that, until he finally succumbs to his injuries from his battle with Lelouch and Cornelia (so technically those two killed V.V.). All of this combined conclusively debunks the idea that codes need to be activated by death and that death somehow plays a role in transferring codes.]]

** Many fans decry the DistantFinale of ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'' for giving most of them completely random careers. For instance, Yamato/Matt -- with his love of music and a fledgling garage band well in the works -- dumps all that to become an ''astronaut''. Worse is Miyako/Yolei: outspoken and headstrong in the series proper, a HouseWife in the future. Fans of certain ships also disregard the finale for sinking their opinions (for instance Sora and Yamato/Matt end up together, which does not make fans who pair her with Taichi/Tai happy). The drama [=CDs=] and the Girls' Day special CD try to [[HandWave explain the changes in lifestyles away]], to little avail. Even the ''Anime/DigimonAdventureTri'' 6-parter and ([[spoiler:apparently]]) ''Anime/DigimonAdventureLastEvolutionKizuna'' movies can't fix the ending, so...

** ''Anime/DigimonAdventureTri'', has fans claiming it isn't canon, especially due to, ironically, the films' callous treatment of the ''02'' Digidestined up until the very last film. Other points of contention were the use of elements from ''02'' without elaborating further ([[spoiler:the fake Ken and appearance of Imperialdramon]] aren't remarked upon at all by TK/Takeru and Kari/Hikari, despite them using their Digivices from that time), the [[spoiler:ResetButton on the team's Digimon]], and beloved mentor Gennai [[spoiler:being used as a villain, at least until ''Our Future'' revealed he was an imposter]]. [[spoiler:Oh and using Yggdrasil/King Drasil as an antagonist. [[DeadHorseTrope Again]].]] It says something when the fans who consider this out of canon were willing to accept ''02'', epilogue and all, over these points.
** Many fans ignore the BittersweetEnding of ''Anime/DigimonTamers'', where the kids are separated from their Digimon and it's left ambiguous as to whether they'll see them again. One of the movies (made without the input of the original creative team) revealed that the kids reunited with the Digimon fairly quickly (though incidentally, this issue was only ever mentioned in the dub). CanonDiscontinuity was declared with the release of the drama [=CD=]s (though only in Japanese, so not part of the dub), which said that TheStinger at the end of the series [[HappyEndingOverride never amounted to anything]] (despite the last few seconds of the episode strongly implying the opposite, even without ''Runaway Locomon''), and the kids have gone several years without their Digimon with no indication they'll see each other again (Konaka elaborates on his website that the film isn't canon, that the lack of his input is the source of the continuity errors which already make the film's canon status debatable and that the reason the film gives for Ruki's behavior - case in point, her lack of a father figure [[note]]itself a claim many fans don't accept[[/note]] - is incorrect). Guess which one fans prefer. The 2018 Blu-Ray boxset included another CD drama, which reveals that [[spoiler:Jenrya became a researcher, Ruki became ''a motorcycle driver'', Takato went on a journey and promptly vanished off the face of the Earth, and the kids ''still'' haven't reunited with their Digimon after nearly '''twenty years'''.]] Then came a script reading for the series anniversary in 2021 [[spoiler:that had the kids battle the personification of "Political Correctness" that uses "Cancel Culture" as an attack, which some fans use as their reason for not considering Konaka's statements canon]].

** ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' is considered the canon continuation of the manga, and it seems to merely regard ''GT'' as a "WhatIf" story. It has introduced several elements that outright contradict what is shown in ''GT'' (such as different transformations for the protagonists and a different version of Hell, for starters). This, coupled with Toriyama's close involvement, pretty much makes ''GT'' a case of CanonDiscontinuity.

** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'''s extreme yaoi fans at one point even dismissed ''official website info'' that made no mention of any romance between any characters, declaring that their chosen pairings were the "real" canon and that WordOfGod didn't know a thing ''about their own property.'' They also engaged in "Relena Censoring", taking official manga like ''Blind Target'' and cutting out all appearances by and references to Relena Darlian[=/=]Peacecraft. Of course, the focus was entirely on {{Shipping}}, which shows in all the {{Plot Hole}}s Relena's disappearance opens up. This flavour of discontinuity is all but dead nowadays, as these fans got older and mellowed out.

* Some fans of ''Anime/MonsterRancher'' prefer to ignore the third season and believe the series ended on an agonizing DownerEnding. It helps [[TrueArtIsAngsty differentiate it more]] from [[Anime/DigimonAdventure similar]] {{mon}} [[Anime/PokemonTheSeries series]] and clashes well with the mostly lighthearted nature of the anime.

*** After said revelation, Sasuke haters tended to forget that Itachi pretty much destroyed his sanity. The fan discontinuity from both ends of the Itachi-reaction spectrum was pretty astounding.

* A handful of fans of ''Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi'' have decided that the manga series ended at Volume 18, given the fact that the next volume is the start to the Mundus Magicus arc and that the arc itself is quite divisive from within the [[BrokenBase fandom.]] Even if fans do consider the Mundus Magicus arc canon, there's still those who don't consider the ending to be canon, whether it's the last two chapters (which involves a TimeSkip to after [[spoiler:Negi saving his father from the BigBad, which ends up happening off-camera]] or the last two ''volumes'' (which, instead of resolving loose plot threads, basically reverts the story back to the UnwantedHarem antics of the early volumes).

* ''Literature/{{Oreimo}}'': The parts of the ending where Kyousuke alienates several of the girls and anything directly after his wedding kiss with Kirino didn't happen according to a great many people who refuse to accept the cop-out at literally the last minute/page.

* To some fans, the third ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' movie (''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]''), or at least its ending, never happened, since [[spoiler:Homura basically undoes Madoka's wish at the end of the anime so that she can be with her]]. The reasons for this vary, including that the original had a perfectly good ending already, the spoilered action was out of character for [[spoiler:Homura]], or that the development ruins the [[spoiler:Madoka/Homura]] ship.

** The manga scanalations have a very similar warning at the end of the second volume. It's a seven-volume series.

* Many ''Manga/ShamanKing'' fans held contempt for the end of the manga, [[spoiler:in which [[BigBad Hao]] won the tournament, since he was UnintentionallyUnsympathetic]], not to mention the whole series seemed to be going through a [[SeasonalRot decline]]. Some fans may also disregard the [[Manga/ShamanKingFlowers sequel manga]] (for similar and/or different reasons). In a good amount of cases, [[OvertookTheManga the manga will be completely thrown out in favor of the anime]].

** Some fans also dislike the later chapters of the manga due to focusing too much on romance and making the Guardian Characters [[TheArtifact artifacts]], not to mention feeling very rushed in tone.

** In addition, just about everyone agrees that most of episode 4 never happened, mainly because the episode has a completely different (and worse) style from the rest of the series because of a different director. Even the official manga adaption [[CanonDisContinuity rewrote that part,]] removing the weird puffball Beastmen and introducing Kittan and his sisters around the time of Viral's attack. Part of this is also a reaction to the producer insulting everyone at 2ch and stating that he hates {{Otaku}} even though Creator/StudioGainax's main fanbase ''is'' Otaku -- and the owner [[ProudToBeAGeek openly proclaimed himself to be one]] -- and then resigned.

** Similarly, many Takatsuki/Nitori fans also ignore [[spoiler:Nitori's OfficialCouple status with Anna]] and ship them together instead.

** Some even like to act like the Time-Skip in general never happened because of the change in Eren's character.

* A decent amount of ''Manga/SchoolLive'' fans think that the manga should have ended with [[spoiler:the girls leaving the high school forever]] in Chapter 30 instead of moving onto the University arc, which has [[BrokenBase a very mixed reception amongst fans]]. It helps that the anime actually does end at that point.

* ''Anime/ExcelSaga'''s [[Creator/ShinichiWatanabe director]] [[InvokedTrope did this on purpose]], intentionally making the "bonus" Episode 26 [[RefugeInAudacity too outrageous (and long) to air]]. The anime series ended on a definitive note with Episode 25 instead of the ridiculous [[spoiler:[[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] of Hyatt's blood ''flooding the Earth and drowning everyone''.]]

* While this one doubles as MemeticMutation, almost the majority of the fandom in ''Anime/LoveLive'' and ''Anime/LoveLiveSunshine'' treat the universe's male gender as almost completely non-existent.

** Many fans ignore the BittersweetEnding of ''Anime/DigimonTamers'', where the kids are separated from their Digimon and it's left ambiguous as to whether they'll see them again. One of the movies (made without the input of the original creative team) revealed that the kids reunited with the Digimon fairly quickly (though incidentally, this issue was only ever mentioned in the dub). CanonDiscontinuity was declared with the release of the drama [=CD=]s (though only in Japanese, so not part of the dub), which said that TheStinger at the end of the series [[HappyEndingOverride never amounted to anything]] (despite the last few seconds of the episode strongly implying the opposite, even without ''Runaway Locomon''), and the kids have gone several years without their Digimon with no indication they'll see each other again (Konaka elaborates on his website that the film isn't canon, that the lack of his input is the source of the continuity errors which already make the film's canon status debatable and that the reason the film gives for Ruki's behavior - case in point, her lack of a father figure - is incorrect). Guess which one fans prefer. The 2018 Blu-Ray boxset included another CD drama, which reveals that [[spoiler:Jenrya became a researcher, Ruki became ''a motorcycle driver'', Takato went on a journey and promptly vanished off the face of the Earth, and the kids ''still'' haven't reunited with their Digimon after nearly '''twenty years'''.]] Then came a script reading for the series anniversary in 2021 [[spoiler:that had the kids battle the personification of "Political Correctness" that uses "Cancel Culture" as an attack]].

** Some fans LOVE forgetting that [[spoiler:Grell is a transgender woman]], despite the WordOfGod. Becomes [[UnfortunateImplications especially ugly]] if we're talking of [[spoiler:rabid {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s who hate the idea that Grell/Sebastian is [[HetIsEw actually het instead of yaoi]].]] (Though, to be fair, if one hasn't read said WordOfGod and doesn't know it exists, it's easy to read her as merely hopeful.)

* ''Anime/EurekaSevenAO'', for its [[AssPull cop]][[WriterCopOut -outs,]] ContinuitySnarl, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasting of good plot threads,]] a lack of understanding of what happened to everyone but Eureka and Renton from the original show, and other assorted unpleasantness. This was solidified in the ending, which ''directly contradicted'' one of the most important themes in the original series. Funnily enough, because of the backstory's '''MASSIVE''' ContinuitySnarl, it's not too hard to put it into discontinuity.
* ''Anime/ExcelSaga'''s [[Creator/ShinichiWatanabe director]] [[InvokedTrope did this on purpose,]] intentionally making the "bonus" Episode 26 [[RefugeInAudacity too outrageous (and long) to air.]] The anime series ended on a definitive note with Episode 25 instead of the ridiculous [[spoiler:[[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] of Hyatt's blood ''flooding the Earth and drowning everyone''.]]

* The Endless Eight arc of ''Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya''. A lengthy repetition of time, plot, and scenery, that lasts more than half of the second season, with eight whole episodes being the exact same thing aside from minor differences. As soon as the arc ended, all of the ImageBoards celebrated. This was what Creator/KyoAni [[IntendedAudienceReaction was aiming for,]] as they didn't want to do the 8 episodes that Kadokawa asked.

* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'':

* The Endless Eight arc of ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. A lengthy repetition of time, plot, and scenery, that lasts more than half of the second season, with eight whole episodes being the exact same thing aside from minor differences. As soon as the arc ended, all of the ImageBoards celebrated. This was what Creator/KyoAni [[IntendedAudienceReaction was aiming for,]] as they didn't want to do the 8 episodes that Kadokawa asked.

* ''LightNovel/{{Oreimo}}'': The parts of the ending where Kyousuke alienates several of the girls and anything directly after his wedding kiss with Kirino didn't happen according to a great many people who refuse to accept the cop-out at literally the last minute/page.

* ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' has a number of fans who see the Aincrad Arc as the only one, due to the following Arc "Fairy Tale" effectively removing the (admittedly somewhat ambiguous) HappyEnding of the previous Arc, turning the ActionGirl Asuna into a DamselInDistress and moving the series as a whole much closer to a [[HaremGenre harem series]] than it was previously. Another portion of fans agree the second arc was bad, but don't relegate it to FanonDiscontinuity because they see the arcs after that as good enough to bear with it, and Alfheim is the setting of several later arcs either in part or in full.

** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'''s extreme yaoi fans at one point even dismissed ''official website info'' that made no mention of any romance between any characters, declaring that their chosen pairings were the "real" canon and that WordOfGod didn't know a thing ''about their own property.'' They also engaged in "Relena Censoring", taking official manga like ''Blind Target'' and cutting out all appearances by and references to Relena Darlian[=/=]Peacecraft. Of course, the focus was entirely on {{Shipping}}, which shows in all the {{Plot Hole}}s Relena's disappearance opens up.
** Today, most of the fanon discontinuity centers around the light novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', because of its {{Retcon}}s, its convoluted attempts at making [[EveryoneIsRelated everyone related to one another]], new characters that aren't as well-received, and pairings not favored by the audience.

** Another popular crossover with ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' that is often considered BetterThanCanon is where [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Jotaro Kujo]] [[https://external-preview.redd.it/v644Hw9zWGywKzBFEoZY2SgLqSO_vQSR2yS4luqs9NI.jpg?auto=webp&s=a382af0e41783984e35a73995fea0b6d900006e6 shows up to intervene]] right before her father attempts to [[ParentalIncest have sex with her,]] which accelerated her downward spiral in the doujin.

* Many people consider the true ending of the infamous h-doujin manga ''Emergence'' to be a fan edit titled ''I'm Gonna Fix That Girl'' where [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Josuke Higashikata and Okuyasu Nijimura]] show up just before she is DrivenToSuicide by a lethal dose of heroin and Josuke [[FixFic uses Crazy Diamond to heal her, giving her a second chance at life with her child]].

Don't like that something happened in an {{anime}} or {{manga}}? For fandom, it's simple! Just [[FanonDiscontinuity write it out of existence]] and pretend it didn't happen.

** Also, the continuation manga ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'', not only for bringing the series into FranchiseZombie territory, but also for [[spoiler:apparently killing off Naruto.]]

** As far as many ''Lamune & 40'' fans are concerned, the series ended with the final episode of ''VS Knight Lamune & 40 FIRE'' and most of them like to pretend that the ''FRESH'' OVA (aka ''[[MarketBasedTitle Knights of Ramune]]'') [[DorkAge doesn't exist]].

** The original ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'' anime ended with Edward and Alphonse Elric separated in different universes: Al in Amestris, Ed in our world. The sequel film ''[[Anime/FullmetalAlchemistTheConquerorOfShamballa Conqueror of Shamballa]]'' reunited them, but trapped them both in our world. Both endings are frequently ignored or written around in fanfiction. Some fans choose to ignore the movie altogether.

* Given the likelihood that a second season will never be made, many fans disregard the GainaxEnding of ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'', wherein [[spoiler:Stocking turns out to have been TheMole this whole time, slices Panty into 666 pieces, and joins Corset in his mission to drill a hole to Hell.]] These fans will take the end as the ending credits of the last episode, and not the SequelHook.

* ''Maetel Legend'' is the prequel to ''Manga/GalaxyExpress999'', establishing the long-suspected connection between 999 and Queen Millenia. Many feel that Millenia stood best on its own, especially if their only experience is the 1982 film. [[spoiler:In Maetel Legend, the heroine of Queen Millenia, Yayoi Yukino, [[FaceHeelTurn is shown to become]] the evil [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Promethium]] of ''999''. The turning of such a likeable character into such a cruel, heartless villain was probably the reason why many fans would prefer to forget ''Maetel Legend'', especially since she had such a good sendoff in the 1982 Queen Millenia film.]]

** There are many fans who would rather not acknowledging anything that comes after Anime/YuGiOh5Ds, mostly for the reason that the protagonists became much wackier (in the case of Yuma).