They do not. They all are important to beat at least one of Sensui's goon with suffering any loses, sometimes two even.
Because Sensui is not only strong but clever, he studied them first before putting his plan into motion, that's why he could play them.
Because it was already established that Sensui was already way pass their paygrade. They were fighting fully knowing they had no chance and the anime knows it, that is way it was played for drama.
Something that was subtly hinted at with the fact that he got spiritual powers when he shouldn't to begin with. How could crashing with a truck and dying get him powers to begin with? Makes no sense, unless he had them to begin with and Koenma just woke them up.
Eh, it was explained right after, so I don't see the problem.
Eh, a demon must do what they must do to survive. If they can only eat humans and nothing else, then what else do you expect them to do? For them all to starve to death?.
They are not. Toguro is evil for evil's sake (wanting power for no good reason other than wanting power) meanwhile Sensui was shown the worst side of humanity and that made him decide that humans had to die. They are different characters.
Uh, why would they setup more plot and cliff-hangers in a epilogue? An epilogue is usually used to close dangling threads, not to create new ones.
A tournament suggested by Yusuke Urameshi. It is in-character for him to solve disputes with his fists instead of talking about it.
Not every work requires to end in a bittersweet way. Some times a happy ending is just as good as well.
> They do not. They all are important to beat at least one of Sensui\'s goon with suffering any loses, sometimes two even.
Hiei flat-out disappears for most of the arc, shows up again to defeat Sniper, then spends the rest of the arc sleeping/trapped in another dimension until he gets to fight Sensui, and then he gets his ass kicked so Yusuke has to save him.
Kuwabara, same. Defeats/saves one of them, gets his ass kicked/kidnapped afterwards, only ever manages to fulfill Sensui\'s plans, get his ass kicked by Sensui. Maybe this wouldn\'t be so jarring if every other character, including Hiei, didn\'t spend the rest of the arc warning them to fight with a cool head and not do something stupid.
> Because Sensui is not only strong but clever, he studied them first before putting his plan into motion, that\'s why he could play them.
> Because it was already established that Sensui was already way pass their paygrade. They were fighting fully knowing they had no chance and the anime knows it, that is way it was played for drama.
They why does the show need to throw a Super Saiyan form in order to defeat him? Wouldn\'t it make more sense to just... You know... Force the characters to think things through instead of relying on sheer power... Like they\'ve been doing in the Dark Tournament?
> Something that was subtly hinted at with the fact that he got spiritual powers when he shouldn\'t to begin with. How could crashing with a truck and dying get him powers to begin with? Makes no sense, unless he had them to begin with and Koenma just woke them up.
I don\'t know how the Dub handles it, but the Japanese version never states this, or even implies this, not a single bit. He spends most of the arc as a regular human, using regular human \"Reiki\", and then the story just throws a \"Oh, never mind, he\'s actually a demon because Grand Atavism or something!\"
At which point, the regular human \"Reiki\" is replaced by regular demon \"Yoki\". If Yusuke was ever demonstrated to have Yoki power from the beginning, that would be another story. But Yusuke\'s Reiki has nothing to do with his demon heritage.
> Eh, a demon must do what they must do to survive. If they can only eat humans and nothing else, then what else do you expect them to do? For them all to starve to death?
It\'s a convenient thing the story never touches upon the same subject again after Yusuke\'s father passes. No explanation is given as to why Yusuke\'s father, and Yusuke\'s father only, needs to eat human flesh. No other demon in the show ever explicitly said they need human flesh, or else they\'ll die.
It comes off as something that was forced there for the sake of drama to kickstart the plot, and leaves as such.
> They are not. Toguro is evil for evil\'s sake (wanting power for no good reason other than wanting power) meanwhile Sensui was shown the worst side of humanity and that made him decide that humans had to die. They are different characters.
I meant in the sense that Sensui, much like Toguro, had the story reveal at the very last minute that \"Oh no, they\'re actually not as evil as you might think you are, they just made this whole master plan so they could get someone to finally kill them, because they feel guilty about their past, and never actually intended to hurt people for real! Sensui\'s personality is actually pure and kind-hearted and shit!\"
In Sensui\'s case, it made no damn sense and came out of left field.
> Uh, why would they setup more plot and cliff-hangers in a epilogue? An epilogue is usually used to close dangling threads, not to create new ones.
Why did they set up the idea that demons need human flesh to survive? Why did they set up a war between the Spirit, Human and Demon Realms? Why did they set up a conflict between Yusuke and the Demon Realm just because he\'s a demon now? Kurama, Hiei and a whole army of ogres already work for them! Why did they set up a conflict between Koenma and his father? Why did they set up a conflict between Yomi and Kurama? Why did they set up Yomi\'s child as if it was going to be the supreme trump card? Why did they set up a tournament when the main bad guy thinks it\'s such a ridiculous solution for a war?!
All of these are either swiftly swept under the rug, forgotten, or given unsatisfactory conclusions. Yomi flat-out stops being evil midway through the arc, and yet the arc continues as if there\'s still a conflict to be found in it. And then, the show just ends with a random character declaring peace between the realms and everybody just accepts it, no power struggle or rebellion or anything, it just ends like that.
> A tournament suggested by Yusuke Urameshi. It is in-character for him to solve disputes with his fists instead of talking about it.
Yeah... If only the Dark Tournament didn\'t try to fix that.
> Not every work requires to end in a bittersweet way. Some times a happy ending is just as good as well.
The problem isn\'t that the ending is happy, the problem is that it\'s extremely convoluted and unsatisfactory.
Because, lett us remember, by this point he still had some vestigies of his evil self still remaining in him. He was avoiding them because he thought this wasn't his problem to handle, however, his friends being in danger made him double think that decision.
Because Sensui knew that he had to keep Hiei in check. The last season gave Sensui all the info he needed on Hiei's power and told him to keep him disabled.
He's more of a wall anyways. It is rare when he has the power to beat an enemy in the conventional way and he's used mostly to demonstrate the power of the new villains, that was always a thing with him, since the very first chapter.
Same reason why Toriyama did the same against Frieza, because it's cool. Or what? Are you saying that that cannot be the only reason to do something?.
Thing is that they already tried that and failed, they don't even know what this new power Sensui is using is all about, so they cannot come up with a clever strategy because they lack information.
I was talking about the first episode. If sacrificing yourself for somebody else is enough for Koenma to give you a second go at life, then why isn't people coming back from the death a more common occurrence? You cannot be telling me to believe that Yusuke is the only person in the entire story of humanity that ever met those requirements.
Besides, following your analogy, nothing in DB ever hinted at the fact that Goku was an alien, he fits perfectly in a world with talking tigers and where the King of the World is a dog. Yet nobody bathed an eye when it was discovered that Goku was an alien, why should it be different here?.
Because cannibalism is such a touchy subject that not everybody enjoys when it is explored further. The writter did the correct thing by leaving it in the background.
True enough, however, I do believe they did a good enough job at hinting that the reason was for his high amount of power, after all, the more power somebody has, the more energy they will expend and I doubt animals alone would be enough to refuel him fully, specially seeing how we are talking about spiritual energy here.
The writter did so to preserve the pacing. It would have halted all the action entirely if he had revealed way prior that Sensui was a good, but misguided, person thanks to all the dialogue required to explain such.
How so?.
To explain how demons work and to give a little bit of flavour to the world.
Again, as flavour for the world. Not every little piece of lore must have such a grandiose meaning behind it.
They didn't. Yusuke had no "conflict" with the Demon Realm at all, he was just made responsible to clean his father's mess because he was made the heir of his throne. Nothing more, nothing less.
They did not. Remember that the Demon Realm was split in three factions, two of which wanted to take the opportunity to invade Earth presented to them when Hiei and co. destroyed the barrier in the last season.
They didn't, it was already setup in season 1.
As I said prior, it was done for flavour.
To showcase both how crazy Yusuke's way of thinking is and also how, even after all he went through, at his core he's still the same character he was in episode 1.
No, they aren't. Demons eating humans is given as much attention as it was needed for such a topic. Yusuke succesfully managed to find a peaceful solution for the war between the Spirit, Human and Demon Realms (or at least, as peaceful as somebody like him could get). Kurama and the rest of the cast's futures were also fully explained in the final episode.
No, he doesn't, he flat-out said that he still wanted to invade the Human Realm, is just that to do so he knows he must win the next Tournament to become the King of the Demon Realm, so he's going away to train so he cain achieve his goal.
It isn't any random character, but the winner of a tournament for control of the Demon Realm were anybody that wished to take over was welcome to compete and were killing was more than allowed. They obey him because he rightfuly won the possition and anybody that wants to dthrone him can just as easily train for the next Tournament to be able to take over.
How did it "fix" that? I don't remember Yusuke ever saying that he hates tournaments either prior or after it.
How is it either?.
You are way more forgiving than I am when it comes to badly explored concepts. And again, I\'m not sure whether you watched the dub or the sub, but in the sub, Yomi flat-out states to Kurama that he changed as a person and dropped all antagonism by that point. There was no line about him wanting to conquer the Human Realm as far as I was concerned in the Japanese ending.
I wouldn't say that they were "badly explored" but instead that the writter went in a direction you didn't expect him to go.
The Latin American dub and little pieces of the sub here and there.
Really? Oh, well, that's fine enough to me as well. Unlike you, I do not expect every single Shonen to be a mangnum-opus that set new trends, meanwhile it is good I am happy enough.
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Great anime, but the ending ruins it
I came to love Yu Yu Hakusho, I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that the anime actually did a great job avoiding the usual Shonen tropes.
The characters don't win by getting random unexplained power-ups that come out of nowhere (most of the time), and in some instances where they do, they are still forced to use their wits to win the battle.
The main cast is composed of colorful, very likable personalities, and there wasn't a single character I hated upon finishing the Dark Tournament arc. The writer did a great job at developing each one of them, making them relevant to the story and making you feel for them.
Most of all, I loved Yusuke. The premise of the show is that he's this completely amoral delinquent who only cares about fighting, but who has a soft spot and can still be saved if he learns to be a good person. And for what it's worth, the show does do a good job at making him into a better person... Until the second arc.
WARNING: SPOILERS
Remember what I said about loving this show because it did a good job avoiding usual Shonen tropes? Yeah... in the second arc, everybody except Kurama gets sidelined. Yusuke dies in battle, the others get very angry about this and try fighting the bad guy, but they only succeed in playing into his master plan or whatever, and then they get their asses immediately kicked now that their one role in the story is over.
After that, Yusuke inexplicably comes back to life because he is suddenly revealed to be a demon, and then he gets a Super Saiyan form that conveniently allows him to defeat Sensui without effort.
And things only keep getting worse from there. At one point, Yusuke meets with his "actual demon father" who is starving because demons apparently need to eat humans to survive, and Yusuke flat-out tells him, "Eh, don't worry, I'll fetch some humans for you to eat."
...the story did such an amazing job building up Yusuke into a good person who wouldn't turn out like a a fighting-obsessed monster like Toguro, who would never kill anybody, no matter how wicked or twisted they were... And here he is in the final arc, telling his father he'll gladly kill some humans for him to munch on just so he has a chance to kill his father himself for interrupting his very, very, very, very important and personal fight with Sensui, who is totally not revealed to be Toguro 2.0.
The story of these last few episodes isn't good either. It goes places, and none of them ever feel like they really matter. It builds up to be this amazing story about racism, war, humanity, bloodlust... And then it throws all logic out of the window with a random-ass tournament and says, "Let's all get along! THE END!" And it just leaves me scratching my head. What did I just watch?
Overall, the Dark Tournament is the story at its peak. Chapter Black trips on itself, but still manages to be interesting and engaging, but its climax and the final arc flat-out ruin the anime for me.