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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 6:44:12 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Make episode recaps, and split tropes accordingly., started by DragonQuestZ on Nov 7th 2011 at 12:37:46 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ading Yes. Since: Jan, 2011
Yes.
Jul 18th 2011 at 6:00:34 AM •••

Why was the Shout-Out entry about Don't Even Blink readded? It's not like that Doctor Who episode coined the word "Blink". It just happened to have that word in it.

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RealityUnhinged Since: Jun, 2015
Jun 25th 2015 at 1:55:23 AM •••

I wouldn't count that, however, I would count the "bigger on the inside" moment from Marvel Mission!

-RU =)
CabbitGirlEmi The Dream Soldier Since: Feb, 2010
The Dream Soldier
Jul 18th 2013 at 8:21:49 PM •••

If some of you thought that this show was similar to Hey Arnold! like I did, well, Dan Povenmire did work on that show a full decade or so before he co-created this one.

RyanStoppable Since: Dec, 2009
May 17th 2013 at 10:05:30 PM •••

I question whether anyone in this show can really be classified as a Hypercompetent Sidekick. While there are those who take sidekicky roles, and they are indeed very competent, so are their corresponding main characters. Take for example Phineas (he has both Ferb and Isabella listed as these to him on their character pages).

I thought it was supposed to be for situations where the whole thing would fall apart if the sidekick wasn't there (like Shego -> Drakken in Kim Possible). In all of the examples for this show, that is simply not the case.

Never be normal.
Gillywood117 Since: Aug, 2012
Apr 9th 2013 at 2:32:35 PM •••

Awhile ago, I noticed that Ferb, Isabella, Baljeet, and Buford all seem to be in some way based off of Phineas, with Ferb having all the intelligence and creativity but not the ambition, Isabella having all the creativity and ambition but not the intelligence, Baljeet having all the intelligence and ambition but not the creativity, and Buford serving as Phineas's polar opposite.

Is there a trope to put this under, or do I stick it in the Fridge?

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Shrikesnest Small, vicious Since: May, 2009
Small, vicious
Jul 29th 2012 at 2:40:29 AM •••

I had to hack through the Radar page with a heated machete because it was such a mess. You may contest specific items either here or on the Forums; I've got a thread for this specific page in the Special Efforts subforum and I'll be happy to talk it out with you here, there or by PM (although I prefer to do so where other tropers can see and have input.)

Before you contest something's removal, however, ask the following questions:

  • Is this something that would even run afoul of censorship guidelines?
  • Is there any possible way the censors could have missed this or misunderstood its intent?
  • Am I just gushing about how hot I think Vanessa is?

"Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight, but Roaring Bill (who killed him) thought it right." - Hillaire Belloc, The Pacifist
MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Jul 11th 2012 at 7:59:07 PM •••

I think this show should get a Lampshadeing award.

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YeMerryHippogriffs Since: Jul, 2012
Jul 28th 2012 at 11:34:12 PM •••

Agree. Its humor is all lampshading or subverting tropes.

Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jun 22nd 2012 at 5:01:10 AM •••

As far as I can tell, there never has been one. There is an entry for it on the YMMV tab.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
albertonykus Since: Jun, 2010
Jul 10th 2012 at 6:58:17 AM •••

There actually was one (see the page history); I've edited it myself. It was cutlisted during the site-wide purging of Nightmare Fuel pages. But given that Nightmare Fuel pages have been restored for quite a few works, perhaps it could be reinstated.

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HypercatZ Since: Apr, 2012
Apr 28th 2012 at 3:33:04 PM •••

Two times in the series, as long as I know, was showd what would happen if they were caught, and one of those times it had dramatic conseguences. I think the second one was made for those people who where sympatethic with Candece. Good thing that in both cases there was a reset button

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 8th 2011 at 10:36:37 AM •••

What's the trope for getting lost in a maze of flashbacks, such as Balloony's introduction?

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
clam15 Since: Apr, 2010
Aug 10th 2011 at 7:03:16 PM •••

I don't know about you, but a lot of what's shown on the show is actually fesable in real life. Case in point, The Song Mix And Mingle Machine. And here's how:

The Verses

Now, we all know how each line of the verses are all sung by different people. Here's how to get that chatroulette-like effect. First, you get five cameras (I'll call ours Camera 1, Camera 2, Camera 3, Camera 4, and Camera C ('C' for Candace)). Next, you designate a certain number of people for each camera. Then you put them in order from right to left that the camera would film them in. In the case of this number, it would be rounded out like so:

(Names go from right to left.)

  • Camera 1: Guy in Red Shirt, Raker, Rat raser, Pharoh, Dull Guy, Big Lady, and Igor.
  • Camera 2: Guy in Orange Hat, Maracas Guy, Toothless Girl, Small man, Tom and Mom, and Sprocket Man.
  • Camera 3: Teenage restaraunt employee, Guy who takes off pants, Dancer, Roosterphobic guy, Bald Guy, and Man with Pockets of Mystery.
  • Camera 4: Twins, Arrow shooter, Socks-less guy, and Tom, Heath, Sphen, and Rex.
  • Camera C: Candace at all times.

Here's how you film the whole shebang. When filming begins, Camera 1 will be on the Guy in Red Shirt, Camera 2 will be on the Guy in Orange Hat, Camera 3 will be on the Teenage restaraunt employee, Camera 4 will be on the Twins, and Camera C will, of course, be on Candace. Camera C is immobile. Camera's 1-4 are not. They'll be on tracks paralell to the singers. Once the director says 'Action', the lyrics will be said in order, but here's where the trick comes in. As soon as the Guy in Red Shirt is done, and the Guy in Orange Hat says his line, Camera 1 will move from the Guy in Red Shirt to the Raker. As soon as the Guy in Orange Hat is done, Camera 2 will move to the Maracas Guy. Camera 3 will move to Guy who takes off pants after the Teenage restaraunt employee, and so on. This will continue until Igor's done at which point, the director will yell 'Cut' and the lyrics will have been filmed.

The segues between people will be used by carefully editing the footage from the waiting cameras in a way that looks like quick movement.

And as for the rooster, since he talks, he'll be animated seperately, either with stop motion animation or CGI.

Chorus

This part's easier to understand. 49 people are used to sing the chorus. Each person will be recorded seperately and the whole thing will be edited together in post-production, their lines having already be prerecorded. Phineas and Ferb will likewise be recorded on the set and against a greenscreen depending on where ever they happen to be at that moment.

Well, what do you think?

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
Apr 18th 2011 at 2:43:02 PM •••

Here.

If you're referring to the fact that there's no button for it up top, I don't think Awesome Music ever had one.

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ading Yes. Since: Jan, 2011
Jcatgrl pinejaysong Since: Oct, 2009
pinejaysong
Jul 15th 2011 at 10:25:02 AM •••

Does Buford ever speak in the third person? I've been noticing that a lot of fanfic writers make him a Third-Person Person, or worse, lapse into Hulk Speak, but does he ever do that on the show?

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hayleychaotix Since: Mar, 2011
Jul 21st 2011 at 2:14:24 PM •••

In the episode where he loses his gold fish he says "Buford loves Biff". And I'm pretty sure he does it at another point, but I can't remember it.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
Jul 25th 2011 at 4:59:14 PM •••

It's usually "Buford loves [whatever snack Linda is offering at the time]." And the Biff example as well.

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SuperFlash101 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 22nd 2010 at 2:12:47 PM •••

Is it just me, or does the title read "Phineasand Ferb" and not "Phineas And Ferb"?

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Jcatgrl Since: Oct, 2009
Jul 15th 2011 at 10:37:35 AM •••

If you capitalize the "and" it will show up normally.

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hayleychaotix Hayleychaotix Since: Mar, 2011
Hayleychaotix
Jul 9th 2011 at 3:16:50 PM •••

Bringing this up may be really pathetic but I kind of have a problem with this from the top of the Headscratcher's page:

There's a hundred and five eps of Phineas and Ferb before they play the season ender. And the weekly-ish problem for all of the fanbase is finding Fridge Logic and bother.

Does the bother part even make sense? It doesn't seem to rythme very well either.

Butterfinger Since: Aug, 2010
May 6th 2011 at 6:56:00 PM •••

Removed this from the main page:

Statler: Waldorf! I know what we're going to do today!
Waldorf: What's that?
Statler: Change the channel!
Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!

I removed it because I don't think it adds to the page at all. I don't think it's a big deal in removing it, but I just put this here just in case someone REALLY feels the need to keep it, and explain how it adds to the main page other than "it's a meme"!

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Arctimon Grin and bear it Since: Nov, 2009
Grin and bear it
May 2nd 2011 at 8:51:39 PM •••

I will be going through the entire P&F page over the next few nights to clean up a lot of the tropes and moving the YMMV from the character page. I will do this as thoroughly and quickly as I can, and I do apologize in advance if you try to edit something and see that the page is checked out by me. I'll try to do it at night so less traffic will be coming through.

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
May 2nd 2011 at 10:01:39 PM •••

UPDATE: I've finished moving all of the YMMV from the character page to the YMMV tab.

As a side note, if anyone want to add an example to either Ensemble Dark Horse or The Woobie, please, please, please think twice about it. I tried condensing everything that was already on the YMMV page and the character page and had to cut some of it in the process. Those two are too long as it is; I sincerely think we have enough there.

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Arctimon Grin and bear it Since: Nov, 2009
Grin and bear it
Mar 4th 2011 at 4:00:41 PM •••

It's been like this for a while, but I'm just getting around to putting it here. All of the Crowning Moment tabs and the new YMMV tab are not showing up when loading the main page. I don't think that they were ptitles when they all got nuked. Do they show up to anyone else, or is it just me?

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FossilsDaDaDa Since: Feb, 2011
Mar 15th 2011 at 11:48:11 AM •••

I noticed that too. Can somebody who knows how please fix it?

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
Mar 19th 2011 at 1:19:11 PM •••

I would if I knew how. All of the Crowning Moments and YMMV links are working; for whatever reason they're just not showing.

May have to make/post in the Trope Repair to get it fixed.

Or maybe in Ask the Tropers if I don't figure it out.

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Sijo Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 19th 2011 at 3:46:21 PM •••

What happened to the main article's original picture? The one that was taken from the show's actual title sequence? It looked much better than the current one.

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
Feb 22nd 2011 at 9:40:56 PM •••

I wasn't aware that there was ever a different photo for the main page.

It must've changed a looong time ago.

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Racso Since: Sep, 2010
Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:08:49 PM •••

Am I the only one who finds it a little strange that the upcoming "Rollercoaster: The Musical!" is the only episode officially labeled a Musical Episode. Even after "Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together" and "Wizard of Odd". Not that it's not going to be awesome, but still.

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KainLupus Since: Apr, 2009
Jan 23rd 2011 at 5:13:20 AM •••

So add the examples, don't just discuss it

Racso Since: Sep, 2010
Jan 23rd 2011 at 12:55:54 PM •••

We're just saying it's kind of weird. I mean EVERY episode has a song and this is the only one with the official The Musical label. But I found the whole thing on You Tube. I counted nine, maybe ten, songs. That's a new record.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
Jan 23rd 2011 at 9:10:55 PM •••

It's the episode that the characters themselves are calling a musical. It just seems to me that they're properly lampshading it this time.

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KainLupus13 Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 9th 2010 at 2:09:32 PM •••

I was just watching P&F on Disney XD (in England, if it matters) and the intro theme seemed slower than usual (like, slowed down). Does anyone know if this is just me or a real thing?

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Mario4812 Since: Sep, 2010
Oct 14th 2010 at 9:11:27 AM •••

I've noticed that the theme can get faster, slower, and sometimes a higher octave. You're not imagining it.

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mobo85 Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 7th 2010 at 8:37:24 PM •••

Probably has to do with the differences between NTSC and PAL.

KainLupus Since: Apr, 2009
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:42:40 PM •••

I doubt it, since I've only seen one of them

werdnak84 Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 6th 2010 at 7:06:51 AM •••

Can someone explain to me how the upcoming movie should warrant an entirely new trope entry on here? We've had at least two other movies before, and unless this one will be in theaters, I don't see how it's anything special.

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WackyMeetsPractical Since: Oct, 2009
Sep 6th 2010 at 8:23:54 AM •••

What other movies? The only other thing I can think of that comes close is the hour long "Summer Belongs To You", but that was more of a special than a movie. This new movie will actually be a full-length movie and will be advertised as a movie the same as all the other Disney Channel Original Movies.

takashi.0 Sayonara, Monty Oum Since: Jun, 2009
Sayonara, Monty Oum
Aug 15th 2010 at 6:33:20 PM •••

"Apparently the show will also be parodied in Seltzer And Freiburg's new movie, Vampires Suck."

...WHAT?!

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24.72.35.221 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 19th 2010 at 3:00:24 PM •••

I had the misfortune of seeing the film (having not known who the directors were until after I saw it), and rest assured if the film parodied Phineas and Ferb, it was damn near impossible for me to see it. Either it didn't happen, or the jab was so subtle that it was lost in the sea of bad, obvious jokes.

Turtleducks Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 29th 2010 at 1:32:13 PM •••

Could we please stop with the Fan Wank about Ferb/Gretchen? I understand that it's a popular pairing, but immense detail about why they're shipped doesn't seem necessary. As well, the edit war that has just begun is only going to get worse.

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OrchidbreezeofFireClan Since: Sep, 2009
Jun 29th 2010 at 1:59:57 PM •••

Yes, please. I'd like to suggest a protocol here: if it's purely objective, it's good, but cut any justification and/or criticism of the ship.

'Many fans ship Ferb/Gretchen' can stay, 'Ferb/Gretchen would probably make a good couple because of such-and-such-reason' would be cut. If a reader can't discern the editor's opinion, it's probably good.

If worst comes to worst, we may cut mentions of non-canon ships altogether.

Turtleducks Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 29th 2010 at 4:14:38 PM •••

That is exactly what I thought. Like, I would do it if it was any other non-canon ship, but no other pairing has been unobjectively described.

OrchidbreezeofFireClan Since: Sep, 2009
Mar 5th 2010 at 3:44:41 PM •••

Maybe I just don't understand, but is the entry for Tuckerisation trying to Meaningful Name a real person? And do so by calling him gay? Please explain if it's not, otherwise I'm nuking it.

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Turtleducks Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 29th 2010 at 1:30:31 PM •••

Well, it's Meaningful Name by way of Tuckerization, as the character is named after writer Bobby Gaylor. The "Gay" in his last name possibly being the part that led to the character's last name of Fabulous, because "fabulous" tends to mean "gay".

The fact that Bobbi is spelled with an i just further accentuates that.

OrchidbreezeofFireClan Since: Sep, 2009
Jun 29th 2010 at 1:55:28 PM •••

Understood. At the time of the comment, however, the entry did pothole Gaylor's name with Meaningful Name. It's since been fixed. Sorry for any confusion.

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