Agreed. It's a shoehorn. Cut it.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I believe [Defcon Five] is played straight - the scene includes a screen with Defcon 1 at the bottom and Defcon 5 at the top, and the Defcon increases from 1 to 2 when the order is made.
Beginning cleanup on shoehorns. Will continue later.
- Agony of the Feet: Sadness' favorite times include when Riley is stuck outside in the rain, with her boots full of rainwater, presumably freezing her feet.
- The trope is about a foot injury and the character's reaction to it. It's not about "well, the character's feet were pretty uncomfortable and they didn't react at all."
- Berserk Button: The Triple Dent Gum song to Anger, even in the bus driver.
- Not a Berserk Button because Anger has a Hair-Trigger Temper. It's kind of his thing. Everything sets him off.
- From Chekhov's Gun: Around midway through the film, we see the Andersens sit down to dinner. Inside Riley's head, her emotions are taking turns pushing her, and Anger isn't particularly interested in Fear's opinion when he gets control. But in her parents' heads, the emotions all discuss things and work together to formulate responses.
- Pulled because this isn't a gun, it's foreshadowing, and it's covered there.
- Crosses the Line Twice: In-Universe, possibly unintentional, take on this phenomenon. When Riley sees the broccoli pizza, Disgust is so taken aback by it that she throws up her hands and walks away from the control panel, meaning no disgust was actually registered and Riley must have had some other kind of reaction to it.
- Just a huge shoehorn.
- Equal-Opportunity Offender: Everyone's emotions display some kind of reductive stereotype and none are portrayed as any more competent or "right" than the others.
- The trope is about a character who is insulting to everyone, not just a particular group. It's not about the movie saying everyone involved is not right.
- Exposition Beam: One of Riley's memories is about a time after a hockey game where her friends and family were celebrating. Joy remembers this clearly, but is surprised to hear Sadness claiming that Riley felt like quitting the team during this event. Joy has been against the opposite emotion of Sadness since Riley's birth, so she doesn't take her claim seriously. However when Joy looks back at the memory, she finds out that both she and Sadness were right. Riley was crying, which caught the attention of her parents and friends who cheered her up. If Riley wasn't sad, she wouldn't have been happy afterwards. This makes Joy realize that not only is Sadness not a handicap, but she's an actual necessity for Riley, on par with every other emotion in importance and development.
- I don't even know what this is going on about, to be honest. But the memory orbs are an example, as they're used to instantly get exposition to Riley.
- Expy: Word of God says Joy's appearance is loosely based on Tinker Bell.
- "Appearance is loosely based on" does not an expy make.
- Five Stages of Grief: Riley goes through these through the course of the film, though Denial is toned down to feel more like Hope or Optimism. Depression is so serious it actually locks out the emotions from doing anything.
- Bing Bong also goes through them over being forgotten.
- Both of these are attaching the five stages to the characters, not the five stages being used as a trope
- Bing Bong also goes through them over being forgotten.
- Flying Broomstick: Bing Bong's wagon has a couple broomsticks strapped to the side that work like jet engines.
- The trope is specifically about witches using brooms. Bing Bong's rocket uses them because they look vaguely like rockets to a kid building a rocketship out of household goods.
- Genre Savvy: As Fear is watching the dream about Riley's first day in the new school, he calls it as a "Not Wearing Pants" Dream seconds before it happens and sounds utterly unsurprised by the fact.
Fear: Let me guess, we have no pants on. Girl: Hey look, she came to school with no pants on. Fear: Called it!
- Interesting misuse. Genre Savvy is about a character applying their knowledge of fiction to their real life. This is applying knowledge of fiction... to fiction.
- From Getting Grap Past The Radar:
- These quotes from Anger:
Anger: We could lock the doors and scream that curse word we know! It's a good one! [later] Anger: [after seeing Joy and Sadness get sucked away] Can I say that curse word now?
- Acknowledging that curse words exist is not sneaking anything by.
- Riley's dad's Anger thinks Riley's mom is staring at him because they must've left the toilet seat up.
- That's... wholly allowed by the radar
- These quotes from Anger:
- Journey to the Center of the Mind: The entire film in a nutshell. It's life from inside your brain.
- This is a plot trope about a character going into someone's mind, which doesn't fit this movie.
- Race Fetish: A PG version with the Brazilian helicopter pilot.
- Having dated someone of a race once does not a Race Fetish
From Stealth Hi/Bye:
- While Riley is stealing Mom's credit card, by the time Mom turns around, Riley has vanished.
- There's no "hi" or "bye." Which is kind of the point.
- Third Time's The Charm: Joy and Bing Bong try to launch themselves out of the Memory Dump via his "rocket ship" three times and the third time is a success. This is because Bing Bong jumps from the rocket so it will be light enough to make it, sacrificing himself so Joy can escape.
- Third Time's The Charm, much to my surprise, is a trope where the hero confronts the antagonist and succeeds on the third attempt. There is no antagonist so it doesn't apply, it's just Rule of Three.
- Too Dumb to Live: That famous "Shoes of Doom" Deleted Scene, where at the beginning a woman is asked where she got those shoes? Well, the movie has that scene as an attached extra, and there, her answer is "At that haunted thrift store".
- I have no idea what this is talking about. It is not a self-contained entry.
- From Vomit Indiscretion Shot:
- Parodied after Fear's short-lived attempt to quit via the memory tube, which results in the tube clogging with memory spheres that nearly crush him: as he lies crumpled on the ground in a daze after being released from the tube, he spits back out a green memory sphere, prompting a grossed-out Disgust to look away.
- Spitting something is not the same as vomiting.
- Parodied after Fear's short-lived attempt to quit via the memory tube, which results in the tube clogging with memory spheres that nearly crush him: as he lies crumpled on the ground in a daze after being released from the tube, he spits back out a green memory sphere, prompting a grossed-out Disgust to look away.
- Who's on First?: The two guards at Riley's subconscious (voiced by Muppet legends Dave Goelz and Frank Oz) have a brief back-and-forth over who has "My Hat."
- Arguing does not mean it's Who's on First?. If I recall correctly, they're just arguing over ownership which isn't this trope.
Does Anger really qualify as a Token Evil Teammate? He's not really evil, he just has a tendency to act before he thinks. He regrets making Riley run away, for example.
Hide / Show RepliesI agree that he doesn't. By my reading, a Token Evil Teammate is identified by any or a combination of A) Not believing in the ideals/goal of the rest of the team, B) Being a jerk to the rest of the team, C) Enjoying doing harmful or violent things. Anger works toward Riley's wellbeing just as everyone else does, is no worse at getting along with the team than any other emotion, and as you say he seems to do "bad" things out of temper moreso than intent to harm.
Not directly related, but does anyone remember a story with a similar moral, where a character needed to learn sadness in order to learn happiness? I think it was one of the Serendipity books, but I don't remember which. (Looking into it more, it seems to be Snaffles.)
I think the distribution of temperaments in the Four-Temperament Ensemble entry should be changed. Fear is melancholic, as he is (from the trope page) analytical and paranoid (that list of possible first day disasters!), sensitive, pessimistic, and judgmental (criticizing the dream). Sadness on the other hand is compassionate, quiet, gentle, a good listener, and submissive, key phlegmatic traits.
I didn't feel comfortable deleting the current entry without understanding the reasoning behind it. Any thoughts, anyone?
Edited by AnotherWanderingGhostI'm not sure about the Five-Man Band entry for Riley's emotions. A Five-Man Band is specifically 4 guys and 1 girl, but Riley's emotions are 3 girls and 2 guys.
Hide / Show RepliesBased on wiki policy, Five-Man Band won't fit this situation because of the gender ratio. However, based on many tropers' personal opinions, some tropers would include the trope regardless of gender ratio if the personalities fit. It's a constant issue with the trope itself that's been going on for a couple years now.
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This example seems very questionable.
I can kinda sorta see where this is coming from if I squint, but I think it takes more than No Antagonist and the characters being beset with some disasters for a film to qualify as a Disaster Movie. The example also seems to assume that the reader instantly gets why the movie is a disaster movie without actually providing any reasoning for this beyond a very vague and questionable statement about "the end of the world". At very least, I feel this one needs some serious work if it belongs on the page. At worst, I suspect that this is just Entry Pimping.
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