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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 22nd 2022 at 5:54:12 AM •••

The page was previously flagged for Five P review with the rationale: and the disposition was: Keep; it's not porn.

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TroperBeDoper Since: Feb, 2017
May 6th 2018 at 1:39:52 PM •••

So the page urls were updated ages ago. Which means all current links that are like numbered just lead to the current page. And it's a bitch finding them. So if anyone wants to pitch in, feel free.

Arkadi Since: Aug, 2010
Dec 30th 2016 at 3:35:45 AM •••

Yo folks, a little bit of help here? I'm thinking of how to put into the page the revelation that Headless Bliss is Lillian's story. It's It's neither a spin-off nor a show within a show, and it's not a case of recursive reality either. There must be a trope that's appropriate here, but I've no clue which one. Any suggestions?

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May 6th 2016 at 4:03:46 PM •••

RE the entry for the twins under Shipper on Deck - as is, it's a Zero Context Example. If they're this for Roomie/LT, then it makes no sense for them to not be on that first line along with Allan. If it's for more than one person, then the entry needs to state who it is.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:31:44 PM •••

Thinking about the deconstruction of Manic Pixie Dream Girl that is Roomie: would this make it an outright Inverted Trope?

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 23rd 2015 at 7:48:50 PM •••

Quick question re: this bullet:

I was under the impression that Lillian being asexual and Roomie being aromantic was fanon, not confirmed in-comic or through Word of God. Am I missing something?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Feb 24th 2015 at 5:34:31 AM •••

9/10 anytime someone brings up asexual on a trope page, it's fanon.

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RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:30:43 PM •••

After I commented out the entry, I found the comic that I think inspired it - finally got around to editing in the link.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 12th 2013 at 9:59:41 PM •••

Rereading the archives, I was just thinking about how to classify Evelyne's whole "I don't like you but I'll be nice to you" schtick, and came upon Tsundere as the relevant trope ... and then found that Lillian was listed as one.

I don't see Lillian as an example of that. Tsundere seems to imply a lot more proactiveness than Lillian demonstrates in her non-friendly moods — I feel like Sugar-and-Ice Personality (which is mentioned in the description) is the actual trope that fits.

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RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
TwinBird Dunkies addict Since: Oct, 2009
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Aug 30th 2012 at 3:41:21 PM •••

Since I don't want to keep up the edit war, I and the troper who added the Twincest example are discussing this in PM, but I don't think it ought to be between just us two - does anyone besides that person think that Ramona and Richard's dialogue in the 8/30/12 update is meant to give the impression they're sleeping together? Does anyone who doesn't think that find it a reasonable enough interpretation that it should be kept with a caveat?

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TwinBird Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 30th 2012 at 8:13:16 PM •••

The troper who added the Brother–Sister Incest example has opted to ignore me in PM. They seem to feel that Richard's description of himself as "being a sub and having a dom twin sister" is sufficient to declare that the two are having sex with one another; I really don't think it is. I really don't want this to turn into an edit war, but I also don't want such an ugly trope listing on a page for such a lighthearted comic when it doesn't appear to be accurate. I was about to remove it a third time, but I decided to go to ATT instead, but again, does anyone else have an opinion on this? Please?

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Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
Oct 12th 2013 at 9:42:45 PM •••

I know it's over a year after, but since I just finished an Archive Binge today: I see nothing in-story that indicates that Richard and Ramona are anything with each other beyond siblings. Richard is shown on many occasions to be a sub, and Ramona has evidenced her being a dom several times, each in circumstances away from the other. Also, they don't have any interactions with each other that would hint at an incestuous relationship. They might share a bed at Lillian's, but that could just be a circumstance of their living conditions, and the quote from Richard in question is just a statement of fact...interpreting it as anything further is just silly.

TwinBird Dunkies addict Since: Oct, 2009
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Mar 13th 2012 at 9:55:10 PM •••

A lot of these comments seem to be talking about early/late strips... does anyone else get the feeling we're still in or just out of the establishing phase of the strip? Those "early" strips just seem to be a short introduction...

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Koveras Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 14th 2012 at 3:22:02 AM •••

Examples Are Not Recent... but this page was created before the policy was made official.

TwinBird Since: Oct, 2009
Mar 20th 2012 at 9:24:41 PM •••

"Recent" and "early" aren't really the same... (or rather, of course they're not the same, but they're not really in the same category).

The thing is that it seems pretty clear that LT and Allan were part of the original concept - mention of "early" strips seems to refer to the 40 or so before they first appeared, and since we're just now meeting Allan's fiancée, I get a definite feeling we're in the opening chapters. I don't think, nor can I find anything to suggest, that describing installments as "early" and "later" necessarily violates Examples Are Not Recent, but my point is that, to me, "early" suggests before some change to the initial concept, and it seems to me to be that that's what's still unfolding. It's true it's been two years, but sometimes it takes that long - Grrl Power, I think, has been running almost as long, and it's definitely still setting the stage.

Certainly I don't think Matt was ever meant to be Roomie's primary Foil, for instance, until LT was "added," as some examples seem to imply.

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TwinBird Since: Oct, 2009
Sep 1st 2012 at 11:39:53 AM •••

Apparently, according to Word of God, no, they weren't, and yes, he was. Whoops.

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